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"Industrial" music started here

http://www.discogs.com/label/Industrial+Records

The slogan "Industrial music for Industrial people", coined by the lovely Monte Cazazza, was where the actual term "Industrial music" comes from.

Largely it was a synthesis of medium and message; through a combination of sound and presentation TG looked to communicate thoughts, feelings and criticisms of modern (between 1975-1981) life. It was NOT about noise for noise sake. It was experimental. Listen to 20 Jazz Funk Greats, listen to D.O.A; these are not super noisy records but they are Industrial.

This is great reading for more of the story http://www.amazon.com/Wreckers-Civilisation-Transmissions-Throbbing-Gristle/dp/1901033600/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347582593&sr=1-1&keywords=wreckers+of+civilization

As far as bands that embody that synthesis of form and message, making more a collage project than just a "band" (and that don't involve directly members of TG) , I can think of a few off the top of my head: Prurient,Death Grips, Grouper, Msott (maybe). And actually...although I'm not a fan...I have to hand it to Amanda Palmer for putting her money where he mouth is and making the form and concept of her music mesh in a way not dissimilar from how TG employed fans to create zine's and fans clubs.

In short, to me, Industrial Music represents a holistic view of artwork involving the process, presentation and final output in a raw and honestly emotional or intellectual way.

Well, the bands that made it out of the 70s were the exception rather than the rule. And the Pistols (and the Damned, and countless other "proper" punk bands) were really just recycling '50s rock & roll, but louder and sneerier. Initially it was interesting and "arty" but it became a rigid template incredibly quickly.

There's a reason Lydon went on to PiL - because he was clearly better than punk would let him be as Johnny Rotten. And Siouxsie Sioux and Pete Murphy effectively invented Goth because equally, punk wasn't open to the things they wanted to do. The bands that stuck with it - UK Subs, The Damned, even the Clash - just recycled the old stuff or kept with mainstream pop/rock styles into the '80s.

What I've read of the original punk scene tends to paint it as aggressively conservative. The bands may have initially been "experimental" but once the die was cast, that was it. TG were lumped in with punk initially, although they were clearly much more of an intellectual endeavour, because of their transgressive style. Subcultures, scenes and music genres weren't really that much of a thing to most people, so there was a huge amount of crossover in who would play gigs and what the audience would be like.

You should read 'Lipstick Traces' by Greil Marcus, 'Rip It Up And Start Again' by Simon Reynolds and, most certainly, 'Wreckers of Civilization' by Simon Ford, for a great cross-section of the late 70s music scene.

mindFluxFuneral

I'm a part of the band mindFluxFuneral. We've been creating industrial music since the right around '92. We've released four albums (yes we seem to work slow), been on a dozen or so compilations, and toured the eastern half of the US twice (with mini-tours in the midwest more frequently). Our sound is clearly influenced by genre leaders Skinny Puppy, Ministry and Front Line Assembly. We are also strongly influenced outside the industrial genre (as our latest release captures). IDM, D&B, Filth, Goa/Psy, Ambient and Soudtracks all push mFF's sound in different directions (and is also one of the reasons why we have infrequent releases).

Facebook / Soundcloud / Youtube

We have a soundcloud page.

We also have a facebook page (come like us!!! :D)

And youtube is littered with silly videos from our tours and performances (/sigh). ;P

Latest Album Release

In November of last year we released our third full album 'a quiet state'. It's for sale on our band page, on our bandcamp page, on iTunes, Google and Amazon. You can also listen to the whole stinking thing on Spotify. If you like it we'd love for you to support us by buying it.

Industrial has forever borrowed production elements from both Rock and Electronic genres. Front Line Assembly was originally very much EBM but moved into a more death metal influenced sound in the 90s, and is now using production elements from modern EDM like drum & bass and dubstep. Numerous other Industrial artists explored Dark Trance sounds in the 90s/early 00s as well; in fact if the band wasn't experimenting with something else they stagnate quick.

Like it or not, this sound is here to stay for a while and expect more and more artists to explore it. Either embrace it or become the old fart yelling 'get off my lawn' and 'music isn't just what it used to be'.

New Artists like Comaduster, Diskonnekted, Modulate, and Binary Park are all exploring EDM production elements from drum & bass and dubstep. Remixes from Aesthetic Perfection to Wumpscut now feature those production elements as well.

You should read his autobiography. I picked my copy up at the local Barnes & Noble.

The short of it is - he was always interested in more aggressive music. He essentially was "forced" to create With Sympathy because that's what his record company wanted, because that's what would sell. Only after did he cut his ties and make the music he really wanted.

He describes it as "ass backwards"/"back-asswards".

Most bands' first albums are all about heart and soul, then they sell out after a while.

However, Al started his career by selling out first, then did the albums he really wanted.

Hmm, kinda interesting. EBM/trance/psychedelic from Canada, sounds like they have been around forever with very little visibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sSbyHTj88c

https://www.amazon.com/Masters-Conspiracy-Cryptomnesia/dp/B001CJTCOS

http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/50e03.html

http://barsnbands.net/listings/bands/466/

https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/theatreovidiots

Try it on Spotify, there's a 12 track album. First 3 are good.

This list is great, I'd second these recommendations to OP. If you're interested in making a starter purchase, the Gears Gone Wild compilation would be right up your alley. Features a lot of the bands mentioned above plus a few others that are in a similar vein.

Yeah, in recent years he is.
I know that in his memoirs he was mis-crediting Mike Scaccia for things that he was never involved in to start with.

I highly recommend Chris Connelly's memoir which predates Al's, and also comes in Audio book form, narrated by Chris himself ( It's HILARIOUS!!).

If you miss Paul Barker, go listen to his album "Fix This!!!" or his band "Flowering Blight". Both are excellent albums close in sound to older Ministry.

You should get his audio book if you haven't already. Concrete, Bulletproof, Invisible and Fried: My Life as a Revolting Cock

He narrates it himself, which makes for a way better experience than just reading it yourself.

https://www.amazon.com/Assimilate-Critical-History-Industrial-Music/dp/0199832609

Alex Reed's a solid guy. Don't be a dick.

It wasn't clear where to buy Black Plague online, but it's on Amazon at a few sellers:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B075B84JHJ/ref=nav_signin?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=&sr=&

You can download both albums as an MP3 through Amazon.

SunnyPsyOp

Devils in My Details

maybe worth a read scan - i'm reading it now - but is a slow process since every page leads me online to listen to more and more music: https://www.amazon.com/Assimilate-Critical-History-Industrial-Music/dp/0199832609/

Which bush? It's on the Psalm 69 record. And any of the live versions from that time (just one fix- Australian tour release is live versions of most of the Psalm record.) Psalm 69: The Way to Succeed & The Way to Suck Eggs Amazon

Satanic Submarine by Okusa?