Yes, they're the exact same thing! :) I have both of these editions:

Unfinished Tales: The Lost Lore of Middle-earth

Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth

They have different titles on the cover, but the title page is exactly the same, both of which say "Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth". Technically since the latter of the mentioned editions is bigger in dimensions, they aren't exactly the same in page-to-page comparison, but it's certain they have the same content, including the same table of contents!

Obviously the second link you provided isn't the same as the second link that I showed you, but I think it's a safe bet that the same scenario holds true with your example as well: they're the same book, but the first link we both provided simply has a different title on the cover, maybe for publishing reasons.

Hope I helped! :)

EDIT: Mentioned table of contents; changed wording

Alan Lee is one of my favorite artists ever. I've loved his work since I got a hold of the book him and Brian Froud did called Faeries ( http://www.amazon.com/Faeries-Deluxe-Collectors-Brian-Froud/dp/0810995867 ) Also does some of the most fantastic pencil drawings ive seen. I LOVE his pencil drawings, which is why I got this book ( http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Sketchbook-Alan-Lee/dp/0618640142 ) Highly recommend both of these.

I had a 1979 copy of David Day's A Tolkien Bestiary for a while that I think hits the mark. It'd be interesting to see what has changed, if anything, from 1979 to today, now that so much more has been published. Here's the TOC:

> A Map of Middle-Earth and The Undying Lands
> A Chronology of Middle Earth and the Undying Lands
> A Chronology of the Kingdoms on Middle-Earth in The Ages of Sun
> A Bestiary of the Beasts, Monsters, Races, Deities and Flora
> Genealogies of the Races of Kingdoms of Elves and Men

Link to a 1979 copy on eBay UK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/401305166085. It looks to have been re-released with the same content but different cover in 2010 as Guide to Tolkien's World - A Bestiary: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0753720809/

I also used to have a copy of and would recommend Tolkien's World, a collection of paintings from before the LotR film trilogy (featuring the greats, like Alan Lee, John Howe, and Ted Nasmith) that appears to go for pretty cheap now. It doesn't serve as a guide but would pair nicely with e.g. the Bestiary*. Amazon UK link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0261102761/

From what I have seen, there are many dictionaries out there you can use. I would recommend going here and checking out the resources. Pretty useful.

Here's another, I find, useful resource for sale on Amazon.

I hope this helped!

!!! MAPS !!!

I have lots of maps and took pictures. I saw this post earlier but just got home and had time to dig everything up. Note that I'm not an expert and haven't looked at some of this stuff in a while, and haven't actually read much of the 12 books of The History of Middle Earth (yet...).

Here's a picture of Beleriand from The Maps of Tolkien's Middle-Earth.

--> Beleriand

This is pretty much the map in the back of The Silmarillion. You can see there's basically a big desert at the top. To the north of that is the Iron Mountains behind which are Angband and Utumno. Middle Earth is to the south (or kinda south east I think) of this whole thing, and as others have said this was all destroyed long before the events in LOTR. If you look at any map of Middle Earth, eg. the one at the back of FOTR, you'll see some mountains, Ered Luin, at the top left. These are visible at the bottom right of the above map of Beleriand, so you can see where Beleriand and Middle Earth used to connect.

Here's a picture from The Shaping of Middle Earth which is the 4th volume in the 12 volume The History of Middle Earth.

--> Beleriand north showing Angband

This is a draft by Tolkien and is similar to the above map from the Silmarillion but it extends farther north, and you can see the Iron Mountains (called Mts. of Iron in red print near the top), above which is Angband.

This last one is from the same book but is poor quality but I found a better version online. It's from the Ambarkanta section. It was also by Tolkien and I think is even more preliminary than the above map.

--> Ambarkanta map IV showing Utumno

To get you oriented, Valinor is on the left over the sea (the liney/squiggly bits are water). The middle section is Middle Earth (a rough draft of it anyways). At the very top is the Iron Mountains and above that is Utunmo, though it's hard to read. This may not match perfectly what's in the text as Tolkien may have changed in his head where things are in relation to each other without redrawing maps. There is some text in the book that says Tolkien's original idea was that Melkor rebuilt his fortress of Angband on the same site as Utumno which is why the sites seem so close in the 2nd two maps above. It says that Tolkien later revised this idea so that Angband was at a separate location, which I think is why the 2nd map above (Beleriand north) which is more complete than the Ambarkanta map shows Angband near the Iron Mountains but not Utumno.

A lot of The History of Middle Earth contain a lot of this type of stuff that describes how Tolkien's ideas about Middle Earth and such changed over time.

And lastly, just because, here's the map I have on my living room wall. It's a Middle Earth foil map that I got at a campus poster sale about 7 years ago then got framed and put behind glass (which cost significantly more than the map itself, but was so worth it :) ).

Nice, looks like a great companion to Allan Lee's "The Lord of the Rings Sketchbook" Looks like this one isn't out until November. How did you get an early copy?

I believe that the mountains around Glenorchy made the back drop to Isengard. There's a lay by as you drive from Queenstown to Glenorchy that gives you a fantastic view over the lake, but you have to imagine Isengard being where the water is.

Also in Queenstown, there's a large hill called Deer Park Heights, it's private land so no visitors can get up there, but that's where they filmed a few of the scenes. I can't remember which though.

You may enjoy this book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Location-Guidebook/dp/1869505301 It's a very good read.

I love the atlas. You should check out “J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator”. I just got it this week and I love it


https://www.amazon.com/dp/0618083618/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yucRCbHV5B7KF

Any differences between this and the already awesome official LOTR risk ?

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4324/risk-lord-rings

If you guys don't have it you should definitely check it out. It was fantastic.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-Parker-Brothers-LORTRILOGY-Risk/dp/B00006653W

Yeah, it’s on a huge sale for $50 right now. We had Amazon points saved which brought it down to $20 in the end. Still, this is a $120 set so I’d definitely snag it!

Here’s a link: The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (The Fellowship of the Ring / The Two Towers / The Return of the King Extended Editions) [Blu-ray] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i_tLnaBbJS9C4AZ

I read Jemima Catlin's illustrated version to a very clever 3 year old who was beyond excited for every reading session. As far as I know there is no child version as in an alternative text but that illustrated version is wonderful.

https://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Illustrated-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/0544174224

This book Is quite good and covers several of Tolkens languages, it's not a comprehensive guide but is a brilliant starting point.

Yeah, it basically just means 'not collectible card game'. You buy a set and you know exactly what you're getting. It's a cooperative game and you play against different encounter decks (quests). It was just kind of an off-hand suggestion. I know it's not for everyone, but I'm obsessed now. And the art is great.

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Of-The-Rings-Card/dp/1589949811

>There's also a great little book that's dedicated to using the books to make a full atlas of Middle-earth, and the author's very knowledgeable about geography and geology. She even explains the theories pertinent to Middle-earth's shift from flat to round.

To add on to this a bit, the book you would be looking for is called The Atlas of Middle Earth (revised edition) by Karen Wynn Fonstad.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KEWAP1I/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


Under NO circumstances should you ever buy, look at, or read An Atlas of Tolkien by David Day.

You should definitely get the LotR Extended Edition on Blu-Ray. Note that only the three movies (six discs) are on Blu-Ray; the other nine discs are DVD. I would also suggest acquiring the Extended Editions on DVD as well since they are nice collector items for LotR fans (but I would only get them used; currently TTT and RotK are going for real cheap used).

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Four-Disc-Extended/dp/B000067DNF

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Four-Disc-Special-Extended/dp/B00009TB5G/

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Return-Special-Extended/dp/B000634DCW/

Nice collection! My own modest collection has managed to take a couple feet of shelf space and I have been considering building a separate shelf for Tolkien.

I do have a question that I hope you could answer...

I've heard that the mass market paperback edition of Volumes I-V are riddled with errors and am currently seeking to replace those. Do you know if the hardback editions of Volumes VI-IX are better than the current paperback ones (ie. these)?

I have the Extended Edition DVD's of each and just got the Extended Edition Blu-rays.

Yes, the movies themselves are blu ray quality. You really get to see the Gandalf's pores and each strand of Eowyn's hair. :-) It does make the landscapes look prettier.
It comes with the same appendices, but they are on DVD rather than Blu-Ray. Those discs won't look any better. It also comes with an additional "Behind the Scenes" DVD for each movie which appears to have a lot of the footage used to make the appendices, but also some new material.

If you're going to get your own set, I'd recommend
this edition.

I have the Lord of the Rings:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547928211/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547928203/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/054792819X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Hobbit:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/054792822X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and The Silmarillion:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0544338014/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


all in the same style.

I believe you can get the Unfinished Tales in the same style as well:
http://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-N%C3%BAmenor-Middle-earth-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/0544337999/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1N4YZSYGC4PZZJ2QP50A

As for the Children of Hurin, I can't seem to find a matching copy online anywhere. BUT, I have found this copy, which seems to be made by the same publisher
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0007309368/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=X9DKISJSM7XL&coliid=I3T9I3PAEVZ12P

Again, I haven't bought Children of Hurin yet, so I'm not sure if it's the same style/shape as the other ones.

Hope this helps!

I have had the book a long time, look like the price has gone up a good bit.

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Collectors-Slipcase/dp/B004UPAQ50/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1373898744&sr=1-1&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+collectors+edition

The far left are the movie scores:

• Fellowship
  
• Two Towers
  
• RotK
  
  What makes these particularly awesome is the included DVD audio version with 5.1 surround sound mixes.

It's the 1-5 Box Set and the rest don't follow the same design. I know it seems really picky but I'd prefer an entire similar set. Thanks.

Jemima Catlin's Illustrated Hobbit. I love the artwork.

Of course, the standard version is illustrated by J.R.R. Tolkien.

You might look for a copy of this or of this. The Fonstad book is very good. The "Composite Pathways" map on pg 172-173 is exactly what you want.

Might you mean something like this? If so, there's one for every movie in the original trilogy (I haven't looked for any Hobbit version). They're also on Spotify.

[This one is pretty nice.] (http://www.amazon.com/Fellowship-Ring-Being-First-Rings/dp/0547928211/ref=sr_1_2?)
[Though I reccomend you start off with the hobbit if you haven't already read it!] (http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-There-Back-Again/dp/054792822X)

Atlas of Middle Earth

Unfinished Tales - Extra info on Gondor, Arnor, Rohan, Numenorean history, the Wizards, the Nazgul, Galadriel and Celeborn, etc. NB - This is actual Tolkien writing, not some amateur summary.

The Silmarillion - The complete history of setting, from the Creation, to the 'gods', Morgoth (Sauron's boss), the origins of the Elves, Humans and Dwarves. Has a great chapter called "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, which is basically the major points of the 3000 years leading up to LotR. NB - Actual Tolkien writing, but edited by Christopher Tolkien.

and of course:

The Lord of the Rings ! - Check out the appendices at the back of RotK for a bunch of extra lore material.

Found a used copy of the LOTR volume sold through Barnes & Noble for close to 50 bucks:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/lord-of-the-rings-j-r-r-tolkien/1100188646/2662055498775?st=PLA&sid=BNB_ADL+Marketplace+Good+Used+Books+-+Desktop+Low&sourceId=PLAGoNA&dpid=tdtve346c&2sid=Google_c&gclid=CjwKCAjw1f_pBRAEEiwApp0JKD5m5TIQV0j5oIeUCx_k3CO5SWGbu2TovY23WCXocj8ing2zYFsWRRoClWoQAvD_BwE

And this Hobbit edition does appear to be available on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Collectors-J-R-Tolkien/dp/B00DZWPRLC

This specific version of The Hobbit was published in 1966, and the collector's edition of LOTR was published from 1972-1974 if that helps your search. They don't seem to be too hard to come by, but buying a completely non-used one may be a bit pricey.

Even on blu-ray, the extended edition version of the films are are 2 discs. I don't think I've ever seen an extended edition on 1 disc.

The full trilogy with everything (included appendices) is on sale right now for $53.

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/

You can also buy individual versions of each movie for pretty cheap ($8 right now) (no appendices).

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Ring-Blu-ray/dp/B003TT2X6I/

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Towers-Blu-ray/dp/B003TT2X72/

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Return-Blu-ray/dp/B003TT2X6S/

This one :) http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004UPAQ50/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1418425830&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Check out Tolkien, artist and illustrator by Wayne Hammond and Christina Scull. It's an incredible look at Tolkien as a visual artist, he's got a very interesting style.

After being a fan of Tolkien since age twelve and owning the soundtracks of all the LOTR films and Unexpected Journey I only recently discovered The Lord of the Rings: The Complete Recordings. The Fellowship album has an entire track of the Elves singing A Elbereth Gilthoniel. What more can I say??

Thank you! I bought it off Amazon.

Interestingly enough, Amazon has had some passed down to them as well and they're selling them for 40 bucks. Goddamn OP, why you had to lie to us?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Hobbit-Collectors-Edition-Tolkien/dp/B00DZWPRLC/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1397655493&sr=8-14&keywords=Hobbit+hardcover

I understand - just the return of the king box? I can help you with that as I have just that one that I bought at a used store. I can take the movies out and send you the box. Its this box: http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Platinum-Extended/dp/B000634DCW

Just FYI, it's over 50% off on Amazon right now.

Interesting that Alan Lee has scanned the paintings himself. I have the 1991 centenary edition myself, and have always felt they messed up the colour and contrast a bit on the reproductions. The same images look much better in Tolkien's World.

Not that I plan on getting this edition. Maybe I'm weird, but one copy of LOTR is actually enough for me!

They are! There’s loads of sources online, as well as many guide books that go in depth about the locations. I saw this one in a book store recently:

https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Location-Guidebook-Extended/dp/1869505301

The Atlas of Middle-Earth, an essential for anyone looking to expand their Middle-Earth collection and IMO an almost required necessity companion when reading The Silmarillion.

http://www.amazon.com/Languages-Tolkiens-Middle-earth-Ruth-Noel/dp/0395291305
This is the one she highly recommended. I have yet to look it over.

[I've just looked at Amazon, the blu-ray is there for less than $75?](https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486779887&sr=8- 1&keywords=lotr+extended+edition+blu+ray) The DVDs would be even cheaper and that's not even counting used

Buy your mum a copy of one of my favorite nerd books:

The Atlas of Middle Earth

Less than $60 for Blu Ray (well worth it, an incredible difference!), extended editions, and all the appendices. Can't recommend more highly.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373989826&sr=8-1&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+blu+ray+extended

Fellowship: ISBN-10: 0547928211

here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Fellowship-Ring-Being-First-Rings/dp/0547928211/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1454115194&sr=8-12&keywords=lord+of+the+rings

They are the first on Amazon The Fellowship of the Ring: Being the First Part of The Lord of the Rings https://www.amazon.com/dp/0547928211/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_62H.zb1M8E8AQ

It gives you the option to add all three.

This book along with careful readings of the book and watching of scenes in Elvish is how I learned. With a few other sites that I cannot remember the names of at the moment >.<

The Hobbit: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/054792822X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Fellowship of the Ring: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547928211/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Two Towers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547928203/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Return of the King: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/054792819X/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Silmarillion: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0544338014/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0544337999/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=pd_cp_74_1?pd_rd_w=PB0te&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=MX3B69FSZP4JE9YEDRY0&pd_rd_r=0391b7fa-9f72-4e8b-b058-0c2a70db5139&pd_rd_wg=NBu0H&pd_rd_i=B007ZQAKHU&psc=1&refRID=MX3B69FSZP4JE9YEDRY0

Not OP, but here you go:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007ZQAKHU/ref=tmm_blu_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1563219618&sr=8-2-spons

https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=dp_ob_title_dvd

Am thinking about getting extended editions.
What is the difference of the link you posted and this link?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007ZQAKHU/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1501984419&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+extended+edition&dpPl=1&dpID=61WG5zOnyGL&ref=plSrch

For anyone wondering

http://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-Picture-Trilogy-Extended-Blu-ray/dp/B014GJBTWI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451078106&sr=8-1&keywords=hobbit+extended

EDIT: Here's for LotR Extended

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451078262&sr=8-1&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+extended

Here's what I have for unfinished tales. As for Children of Hurin I have not yet found a matching one yet!

Does anyone know the difference between these two sets?
This one is more expensive
https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Extended-Editions/dp/B007ZQAKHU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480378816&sr=8-2&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+extended+edition

But this one looks the same but is a lot cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Picture-Trilogy-Extended/dp/B004HEWNBO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1480378816&sr=8-3&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+extended+edition

The gold box set is so dope.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007ZQAKHU/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511535853&sr=8-1-fkmr1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lord+of+thr+rings+blu+ray

Literally just bought this, and was about to post it here too. Link

This one

OP, do you realise this game already exists and there is a game mode to follow the ring across middle earth!?!

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/Risk-Lord-Rings-Middle-earth-Conquest/dp/B00006653W

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B00006653W/ref=mw_dp_olp

https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Sketchbook-Alan-Lee/dp/0618640142/

If you don't find what you're looking for, you might try The Lord Of The Rings Sketchbook by Alan Lee. There are lots of pages suitable for framing if you don't mind slicing them out of the book. (you could try to score a used copy)



(Amazon has the feature that lets you look at pages)

http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Lord-Rings/dp/0618510982

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Sketchbook-Alan/dp/0618640142

I assumed people who were already familiar with the books wouldn't need links to further educate themselves about books they've already read.

I have this set for Hobbit, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales: https://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-J-R-Tolkien/dp/054792822X

Lord of the Rings Collectors Edition

Hey, do you think you could link me? Is this what I'm looking for? Is that the right set for the extended edition?

Yes they do.

Is it this book?. I seem to remember that book saying stuff like that. It's very wrong.

Sindarin has a thing called consonant mutation where the initial consonant changes depending on preceding words or other syntax related things. Perian is the base word, as in hobbit or a hobbit. I is the in Sindarin, which would change perian to i berian, the hobbit.

-ath is a collective plural suffix, e is a genitive singular article which confusingly is also i in the plural form which gives a different mutation changing p to ph as in Ernil i Pheriannath, Prince of the Halflings. Just Halflings would be Periannath.

(major, major grain of salt on this, I'm at work and can't thoroughly back myself up on all the specifics right now, but most of it should be right.)

Price history here. As you can see, the $119.98 price they are showing in the strikethrough on the page is the highest the product has ever been listen on Amazon, which was all the way back in July 2012. It has spiked up a little bit since then but it has spent a lot of time at cheaper prices. Worth mentioning that the current price is the lowest price ever.

So the Amazon page is actually comparing the highest price ever to the lowest price ever

[The Complete Recordings]
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BNI90O/ref=pd_sim_15_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9TDHNSSTD2YK7XRS57K7) is to expensive for me :(

Next time i buy this Motion Picture Trilogy Soundtrack.

Oh no, sorry, I wrote the wrong book. It's The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0395291305/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eo9TzbDEFDE21

Bruh.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZQAKHU/

I got it for $27 at the time, new. ;)

Must have. Which is why I am so sad and frustrated for losing part 2 of RotK. I'd been rewatching one part a night and tonight I was supposed to finish... :(