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You have not offended anyone mate, very brave speaking about your life like that.

Phenibut just like alcohol or benzo drugs, will downregulate your Gaba receptor sites, the only difference between, Phenibut works on GabaB rather than GabaA

When you take Phenibut your Gaba (Relax) will raise, and your Glutamate (Action) will drop, this can create a sense of total Euporhia for some people especially in the ones who have a previous genetic Gaba/Glutamate imbalance.

The problem is, the more Phenibut you take, the less effective it is on Glutamate Antagonism and like alcohol, repeated high dose Phenibut use can actually cause Glutamate to rise, rather than drop, you then find yourself waking up in a morning with a Glutamate neurotransmitter activity so high, you need to take very "stupid" (your word) dose of Phenibut just to feel normal, sound familiar?

I strongly recommend reading this book mate, it is written by Dr Fredrick Von Stie a world-renowned expert in addiction therapy. Ive read this book 3 times now, It is amazing. I study neurochemistry both for professional reasons (Complementary Medicine Field) but also for personal research (I have mild genetic Gaba/Glutamate imbalance - my brain does not create enough Gaba)

Gabapentin is a very good Gaba drug to take, coming off Phenibut but there are better alternatives If you went to see an addiction specialist, has your doctor GP given you the Gabapentin and Etizolam or have you got from other sources? dont worry im not the police lol.

If your doctor is handling your care brilliant but if not I would really go down and just explain to a GP, it is highly likely the same thing will happen again on the meds mentioned but this time with GabaA instead of GabaB, doctors have drugs which can Raise Gaba while simultaneously reduce glutamate, this is vital for keeping levels "normal" or its even possible with a couple of herbal potentiators to keep the balance slightly favouring Gaba, thus fixing your imbalance and letting you lead a normal happy life with your family.

I hope this information was helpful, and if you wanna talk, send me a direct message, I'm more than happy to chat mate.

I'm new to the Phenibut, but have had ~15 years of experience with depression and anxiety along with all the side effects they bring.

I've taken all kinds of anti-depressants, benzos, supplements, herbal remedies, you name it. By far the best and only long term solution is not drinking alcohol at all, diet, and exercise along with getting enough sleep. There is no cure for depression, it's a constant battle, but you can win it. As for diet, cut out sugar and processed foods, especially refined grains. 80% of your calories should come from fruits and vegetables, mostly vegetables. The rest should come from good fats(omegas) and a little bit of animal protein. Get at least an hour of exercise 4 times a week including cardio as well as strength training.

Cognitive behavioral therapy helps as well. It's basically retraining your thought pattern to not harp on the negative thoughts and learn to manage them. A good book for this is felling good. If you read the book and do the exercises it really helps.

https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New-Mood-Therapy/dp/0380731762/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

From my limited experience with phenibut, I don't think it's a good solution to depression or anxiety.

But if you do need a crutch, I've found Kratom to be a very good for short term relief. It's great for anxiety, depression, pain, energy and sleep.

Best of luck.

Yo you tried to snort it!? I commend your effort but that's a huge waste of time and god knows what it did to your nose. Not trying to be rude, but don't do that again man, yikes.


Have you thought of parachuting it? Amazon sells these little edible papers you can wrap your dose up in and swallow in one shot, no taste at all. People use them for Kratom a lot.



I forget what they're called, but if you're interested, I'll look them up for you. I'm on mobile rn or I'd just link to them.


Also, if you're trying to taper down, I've heard anecdotal reports of people cutting their large doses in half with minimal withdrawals. Kratom also helps with the withdrawal while tapering when taken on a as needed basis (you can get addicted to it too, so there's that).



Best of luck man.


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These are what I was talking about:

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE


You can put the dose inside, seal it with a lil water, and swallow it whole.

I strongly recommend that you do not take this or any other powdered compound without measuring with a scale, each time. The type of phenibut (FAA/HCL), crystal size, different batches, how you load the spoon, etc., all make it hard to get reliable, repeated doses.

The scales are cheap--here is a very popular one on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM

Phenibut can be a fantastic aid to better living--let us know how it goes!

From what I've read, you also need a bit of vitamin k2 in order to efficiently process the D - But you can find capsules with k2+D for basically the same price. Good luck!

It's so much easier if you use these capsules and just mash them into the powder (or pour the powder into the lid and then mash the capsule onto it) until packed tight, and then put the small end of the capsule on the other end. You will have a 100mg F-phenibut capsule, pretty reliably/consistently.. Though with something like this, I suggest getting a scale to be sure of accuracy.

Get an accurate mg scale if you plan on going 500mg-1g.

This is the one I use:

https://www.amazon.com/Zilink-Precision-Milligram-Reloading-Back-lit/dp/B07PK21294/ref=pd_cp_328_3/189-1413050-2193831?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07PK21294&pd_rd_r=769ef8c2-3ef1-4895-9d90-6eb9c8b08f70&pd_rd_w=o33Ih&pd_rd_wg=ePBYo&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=B538N1HAV0WDQAX4NQ12&psc=1&refRID=B538N1HAV0WDQAX4NQ12


Be easy going with racetams and Phenibut. It isn't dangerous per se but racetams stack incredibly effectively with the way Phenibut works on GABA-B and voltage-gated calcium channels.

Dont use that scale, I have the same one and you can easily be 100-200mg off.


This is the one I use and it works perfect


https://www.amazon.ca/American-Weigh-Scales-Gemini-20-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3OHDXRY77K6WR&keywords=milligram+scale&qid=1558300237&s=kitchen&sprefix=miligram+sc%2Ckitchen%2C124&sr=1-6

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OX9qzb4PY8ZSQ

$10. Seriously do yourself a favor and purchase this scale. Got mine a year and a half ago, use it multiple times every day, still works perfectly.

Yes I have one of those and it's pretty damn accurate. Then again you don't need to be 100% accurate so i bought a scale with a bigger surface for doing both pheni and kratom https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which should be plenty and you don't need to use a special weighing surface

If you don't like caps, try oblates. It's an edible film you can swallow, people use it for stuff like kratom so they don't have to deal with the taste. Way better than dealing with caps.

I didn't find any advantage to sublingual over toss & wash. I'm still searching for my optimal once-per-week dosage and I'm moving down from the 1700 mg with a 500 mg booster I tried last night. That was too much. Next week I'll try 2000 mg with no booster. I think more than once per week is a no go for me but I'm still experimenting.

I also ordered oblate discs from Amazon so I don't have to wash the phenibut over my teeth, I can just swallow it like parachuting but with cornstarch instead of toilet paper: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VN4BV1M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I know the F.A.A. form is not acidic like the HCl but even so, it irritates my mouth and my teeth feel sensitive after taking it. I'll see if that changes when I start parachuting with the oblate discs.

First thing you will do is get a cheap scale that can weight this before you use it because it can be more or less depending on the powder if its tight or loose.

Get atleast something like this

https://www.amazon.de/200g-01g-Taschenwaage-Feinwaage-Digitalwaage/dp/B01FQHE25U/ref=sr_1_6?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=waage+0%2C01&qid=1565719906&s=gateway&sr=8-6

for your own safety

Use a .00 scale. Something like this.

Each of these Amazon link holds 500 to 600mg... usually, be sure to double check with a scale.)

You should be able to find them at healthfood or drugstores too

Never taste it again.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00ESHDGOI/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ESHDGOI&pd_rd_r=10619a15-5c79-11e8-a97a-9ba70c80a3ad&pd_rd_w=9vPgo&pd_rd_wg=qNa4X&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=K24B8K5RB8NJNAX1CH2M&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=07871b8e-d32a-4963-b98f-ba712077f7f5&pf_rd_i=desktop

Here's a quick link to buying L-Theanine.
www.amazon.com/dp/B06XTHKHQ3/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_UzHVDb6J3MZSB

How about this one ? https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00GTX3LAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_p1B4Cb938XYD4

I use this one

https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473805845&sr=8-1&keywords=milligram+scale

this is the scale I use it's a little difficult sometimes though but it works most the time

I bought these pills:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013OQIJY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_H35.zbSZXY0DV

I thought kratom was illegal in US now. Baclofen doesn't help him. He also tried kava which does help but he over does it and pukes.