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You're talking about the Kimber Micro .380, right? If so, that's already a pretty lightweight firearm. The S&W Bodyguard in .380 is a little lighter, but by like an ounce. Only other option I would be comfortable with personally would be the Ruger LCP. That's a few ounces lighter, and I have a friend who has had nothing but good things to say about his LCP. Just make sure it's one of the newer models where the sights aren't just little nubs that give you zero picture whatsoever.

> Or other alternatives for defense besides a small gun?

I'd go with the gun. The problem with other weapons, is that aside from not being as lethal as firearms (usually) melee weapons in general, unless they're about a foot long for striking surface, are really only suited for hurting the other person, not for protecting yourself. You can definitely do some damage with a knife, but knives don't generally stop other people from damaging you.

Here's where I would recommend you start, if you're not already familiar with these folks;

https://thewellarmedwoman.com/concealed-carry/

A lot of the women that I've talked to who carry concealed, and have actually screwed around a lot with their setup looking for something that works for them, tend to just carry inside their waistband and wear clothes that don't print.

Hrm. . . the problem with aprons is that you secure them to your body in a way that makes the apron more or less flush with your torso, isn't it? That's a tough solve. I think the key might be the shirt. I've actually just been looking at changing my setup, and I've found that the shirt is a big deal, along with the holster, for whether or not I print. The pants are important to, but to a lesser extent. I'm guessing there are uniform requirements? If your pants have pockets, you could get a pocket holster secured into the side of your pants pocket. It wouldn't print, and you've got ready access.

I know something that helped me was moving over from leather to kydex. Something like this might work for you;

https://www.amazon.com/Vedder-Holsters-Pocket-Locker-Holster/dp/B00EXA6JAI

Or, if you don't want to have to buy another gun;

https://www.boraii.com/store/p109/KIMBER_MICRO_380.html

The nice thing about pure kydex holsters, is that they make it easier to draw without taking the holster with you. The nice thing about this particular pocket holster is that it is designed to catch the pocket on the draw, though, you still might want to secure it in some way to the inside of your pants pocket if you don't want it jostling around.

Another option, if you wear a belt and you think your apron will work with you on this instead of against you, is an iwb kydex holster, like this one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmhnfiY1C_U

The nice thing about pure kydex iwb holsters is that they minimize printing and they secure the firearm so you don't take your holster with you when you draw.

Honestly, imagining myself in that situation, my biggest concern isn't so much the printing (my ccw prints very slightly) but not having enough ammo. My CCW is 9+1, and I carry an extra mag just in my pocket. 7+1, without an extra mag, would make me twitchy.

Out of sheer curiosity, what ammo do you use? I've never considered .380 for carry before but now I'm wondering what sort of ammo would be good for that.

[And there just so happens to be a well research book on this very topic.] (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Civil-Resistance-Works-Nonviolent/dp/0231156839)

Sure, an insurgency movement can be pretty effective at thwarting the attempts of an invading army. However, they don't have a great track record, when compared with mass non-violent movements, for bringing about any sort of society that most of us want to live in.

Edit: To clarify my point, I don't think it is a very accurate to compare insurgency movements to the reason that many people in the US cite for the reason to have their firearms; the ability to stop the government from becoming more authoritarian. There is a lot of academic literature on insurgencies, social movements and revolutions. Having read a lot of the literature on social movements and revolutions, I can't remember a single peer reviewed article or book that can show that access to firearms is a particularly important variable in the success of a revolution or social movement. If someone can point me to that literature, I would be happy to read it.

One of the best contemporary books I've read in recent months that gives a nice overview of the events leading up to and through the American Revolution is Patriots: The Men Who Started the American Revolution by A.J. Langguth. It covers a lot of the background (from around 1765ish, I think) all the way through Yorktown.

Another absolutely great book describing the events surrounding the eruption of open hostilities between England and the colonists on 19 April 1775 (Battle of Lexington and Concord) is Paul Revere's Ride by David Hackett Fischer. This book serves as the basis for the history portion of Project Appleseed, some of the best and most fun rifle marksmanship training out there. If you've never done an Appleseed weekend, I highly recommend it.

A lot of the things I read now tends to be original source material....as a lot of authors can put their own spin or interpretations on events (whether intentional or subconsciously). While slightly more difficult to read, original source material is invaluable in understanding the events as they happenned. For this, I recommend not only the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Federalist/Antifederalist Papers, but Founding America: Documents from the Revolution to the Bill of Rights is also a fascinating resource.

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I agree with everything that's been said. Recently, I saw this description of a documentary on Amazon Prime:

>Californian filmmaker Darren Doane (Collision Unstoppable, Free Speech Apocalypse) packed up everything and moved his family to Idaho. One thing they didn't bring was a gun. That's because their family doesn't own a gun. Imagine their surprise when they arrived in Idaho only to discover that their new friends and neighbors were proud American gun owners, exerting their right to Keep and Bear

The film is Keep and Bear

From the description only, I figured it would be another anti-gun diatribe, but I was pleasantly surprised. It sort of hits a lot of progun points, though not always accurately. But it shows how one family, who not necessarily anti-gun came to a different conclusion.

>You can't No True Scotsman what represents the political Left Wing in this country, just because it doesn't fit your ideal of what "left" actually is or means.

This isn't No True Scotsman, this is the Overton Window. The political left wing has no representation in this country worth speaking of, as should have been made resoundingly obvious by DWS and the rest of the DNC having their thumb on the scale for Clinton during the primary. As long as the Democrats remain a center-right party that would rather lose an election than nominate a Democratic Socialist, describing them as "The Left" in any context other than their relative orientation to the far-Right Republicans will remain misleading.

>It's known as the left wing.

"Americans" know it as the left wing, but even Americans know that their "left wing" isn't even left-of-center.

>That's like someone else saying that The Right™ isn't really The Right™, since it's not full-blown national socialism

Have you not been watching the Trump election coverage lately? =3

>But, to add, it's not that I disagree with you, and it's really the reason I added the ™ to the end - to illustrate that it is more of a slogan or a brand-name than an actual representation of an ideology.

I get that, and I really appreciate the attempt to try and take back the nomenclature. Guess Poe's Law makes a fool out of me this time.

>They have enough in common, and certainly where it counts: intense, focused hatred of America, both as a concept and as a thing that exists, and hatred of what is currently the majority population of America, as if we're to blame for all the ills of the world.

See, it's comments like these that make me think that perhaps you really were sincere when you chose to describe The Other as "The Left™".

"They just hate America" is one of those thought-terminating clichés straight out of Robert Jay Lifton's 1961 text on the psychology of Chinese propaganda and brainwashing techniques:

>>The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.

You're using the same language to describe Progressives, Liberals, Communists, and Anarchists as the American State used to describe the "Terrorists" from Saudi Arabia who gave us the excuse we needed invade Afghanistan and Iraq back in 2001. Not because it was true, but because anyone trying to actually understand their motivation runs the risk of developing empathy for those who have been declared "the enemy".

After all, wouldn't you consider violent retribution towards a distant foreign power who persistently meddled in your affairs (including overthrowing your democratically-elected government to install a puppet dictatorship) in order to foster a more favorable business environment for themselves to be justified?

>Not that I don't agree with your sentiment, but I think the last thing that's needed is another label to slap on a group of people

"Neoliberal" is not a new label, the term has been used to describe "Third-way Democrats" like the Clintons since the 1980's.

>>Marxist Libertarian

> Pick one.

I did.

>I don't see any valid way to reconcile those two ideologies without compromising and completely undermining both.

Marxist Libertarianism is a branch of Left-Communism that emphasizes the anti-authoritarian aspects of Classical Marxism. To be fair, though, I wouldn't expect that people from post-McCarthyism America would understand the difference between Marx's philosophy and those who abused it to justify a centralized command economy.

> ....when the creator/owner of /r/xkcd (among others) finally went inactive for six months, allowing a better group of folks to take over.

begin irrelevancy/

I just read the book by the creator of that sub, ["What If?"] (http://www.amazon.com/What-If-Scientific-Hypothetical-Questions/dp/0544272994/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1420590797&sr=1-1&keywords=what+if+serious+scientific+answers+to+absurd+hypothetical+questions).

It was quite funny, and the stick figures are great!

/end irrelevancy.

>The Nazis were pretty explicit about their intent.

Not actually true, really. Yes, Hitler and the NSDAP were explicit about their intent in the early 1920s, when they were getting 2% of the vote at most (I think in the 1928 elections they got something like 0.7% of the vote, if memory serves).

Then, once the Depression started and things were going from bad to worse, Hitler saw his political moment and he actually toned down his anti-Semitism and political extremism, toned down his attacks on capitalism and became more friendly to big business in much the same way the British Labour Party would in the later 1940s.

When one-third of the German people voted for Hitler in 1933, they were voting for a party which played to long-held German beliefs and prejudices (including anti-Semitism) about the need for a strongman like Otto von Bismarck rather than feeble parliamentary democracy, a party which appealed to Social Democratic notions of strong trade unions and welfare for the old and the poor and war veterans and a basic standard of living for all, a party which talked about reining in the excesses of exploitative (read: Jewish) capitalism, a party which appealed to the nostalgia of "the good old days" before 1914, a party which would stave off a Bolshevik Revolution (the threat of which was very real and which was, after widely disseminated reports of Trotsky's Red Terror in the early 1920s, widely reviled), a party which would throw off the shackles of Versailles and put Germany back in the top tier of nations which Germany's economy and kultur deserved, and, most of all, a party which promised an end to the political deadlock of the Weimar Republic--which was thoroughly discredited in the eyes of practically all Germans.

But what's astonishing is just how vague Hitler and the NSDAP were about all this. Like any politician, they spoke in platitudes and phrases which were open ended in their interpretation. When Hitler spoke of smashing Jewish finance, moderates heard him saying that international bankers were strangling Germany economically after WWI and needed to be reined in with reasonable regulation; the hardcore anti-Semites heard Hitler talking about expropriating Jewish banks outright.

Far from voting for an party which explicitly promised another world war and death camps filled with Jews, Germans thought they were voting to "Make Germany Great Again" by returning to a kind of Kaiserreich where a strong leader, aided by a loyal, dispassionate, efficient civil service carrying out the Leader's every order without being tangled up in messy parliamentary politics, would make ordinary Germans richer and esteemed in the eyes of the world. And more than some voted for the NSDAP to "keep those Jews in their place."

That's not my opinion, but rather the opinion of eminent historian Richard J. Evans.

Just downloaded it! Will read and review when I get a chance.

Might also be worth promoting on /r/libertarian and /r/anarcho_capitalism as I know those folks are heavily pro-gun.

I actually wrote a pro-gun short story as well, which can be read for free, called The Gun Grabbers.

And, of course, my novella about the secession of New Hampshire is strongly pro-gun.

Have you considered joining the Libertarian Fiction Authors Association or Liberty Island?

I think the best thing we could do is find a way to fight gang violence. Most counties have had only 0-1 homicides and only a handful contain the majority of homicides with many being specific to certain streets. Fighting gangs and providing better mental health treatment is the best solution to gun violence.

Sources:

https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/most-murders-occurred-in-5-percent-of-countys-says/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-murders-concentrated-in-5-percent-of-counties

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-duwe-rocque-mass-shootings-mental-illness-20180223-story.html

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20130124/mental-health-and-firearms

> I truly believe the Founding Fathers had one of the best ideals ever conceived and put into place; leave us to make our own choice. If we fail, we fail. But at least WE, as a people, got to choose. And so far we seem to be doing OK. Room for improvement sure, but that shows we are still growing and that's the key.

Actually the ideals of the founding fathers spread across the world and spread democracy. Read this.

>It's a little below my level

Lol, sorry but that is super hipster sounding. =P

Awe, now you edited it. =P

It's a decent series, not amazing like the Enemies Trilogy. However the Divided we Fall series brings up a LOT of what you guys are talking about.

http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831010/ref=la_B00350B7EU_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453305557&sr=1-1

You bet. These are as small as I think you should go. Pretty well designed case and a handy key-chain quick release thingie. They have enough sprays in them so you can test it to get a feel for the range although I wouldn't do it more than a few times:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UVTDLG

For $9.99 its the way to go.

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Ayn Rand didn’t write textbooks but nice try.

I was thinking more along the lines of this for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Economics-High-School-Version-Krugman/dp/1429218266

> True story, look it up.

I hear you. You're preaching to the choir here ;) One of the books in my firearms reading collection is Silencer History and Performance, which talks about requiring silencers in some European countries, as you point out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V6KXCZ1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_75FEDbFC96VG0

LOL you can prime this crap

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I’m on mobile, and it isn’t the exact same one. But I hope this works

Like what? I doubt you can produce any effective method that is any quicker to operate than this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A75EVJO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425322127&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=handgun+safe