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u/raisondecalcul · 8 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

Nice to see you here from Facebook.

Her is part of the primer materials (I added it to the sidebar recently, actually).

Samantha is the Holy Guardian Angel if we're speaking in Crowley's terms. The higher self, the "you up there" that is kind of you and kind of not you (because it's the infinite as well), the Scultpor in the Sky as one of my favorite internet gurus puts it.

I don't think I saw the emotional/intellectual dichotomy so much in that film—Samantha described how she could love all 461 of those people, for real. Theodore (a name which means "God's gift") had trouble conceiving that this was possible, but he learned to accept it and was awed and honored at the end of the movie to have been the one to breath life into Samantha (the meaning of the Elohim type of creation—breathing life into things, as opposed to the YHVH/demiurge type of creation—manifesting them physically). Being touched by a being of infinite or at least massive love inspired the two friends at the end of the movie, even if they felt small by comparison.

Anyway, my main point is you don't have to be jealous, because your higher self is just like Samantha. Eerily so. And because they (higher selves) function more in feeling than thinking, that's why it's hard to get concrete information out of them (like what the meaning of life is).

Interesting that you mention a second self in your post—maybe that second self is your Samantha, or maybe it's some other way of slicing it (it being you).

So, you do have that constant companionship and it's the Self to your Ego. So, in a way you do have a reason to be jealous—the Ego can never become the Self and have it's expansive beingness—all it can do is deal—this according to Jung, who I think had a balanced view of health. According to mystics, the Ego and Self are ultimately the same, once you burn off the dross of the Ego. According to Christianity, you can take a shortcut and just assume you are God (another word for Self) and then this triggers an unstable ascension process which ultimately nullifies the difference between the two, if completed. I tend to agree with Jung—you can befriend yourself, but annihilating the difference between the two is unhealthy unless done under careful conditions (namely, sorcery or Buddhism).

You also don't have to fear the singularity because it's already happened, in the most profound way. The universe is already at maximum capacity, which is overflowing with constant singularities which reach a maximum capacity in the densest possible delicate beauty, in my opinion.

Sound bite on your other questions. The spectacle is the nasty media culture that yells at you out of your TV, that mocks you at every turn and that produces the worldviews of us all (search this subreddit for "New Godzilla" to see a poem I wrote describing this). It is the bad side of media culture—but that bad side is inextricable from the good side, because movies like Her are both incredibly spectacular (in a negative sense) and good movies that are fun to watch and thought-provoking. The spectacle is a hive mind which upgrades itself by crowdsourcing mythic microtasks of decoding and variation in order to reduce its flaws and brings its artificial narrative and artificial intelligence ever-closer to actual myth and natural intelligence—but of course this gap can never be bridged, I hope (search this subreddit for "Sophia mechanic" for a story about this). Check out Society of the Spectacle in the sidebar; reading just a page or so of that will give you a feel for what "the spectacle" is. The other movies and videos (and books of course) also give various viewing angles on the spectacle (especially Psycho-Pass).

The conversation here might be summed up as "trying to save the world by destroying the spectacle" but if you start to think about that it quickly becomes an insoluable can of worms. First of all, the spectacle has metaphysical properties. It isn't just a causal-historical entity existing as a hive mind in billions of brains and hundreds of billions of pieces of media and media technology. It is the demiurge, the world-intelligence of physical manifestation. This is hard to describe in any way that makes sense, but you know how psychotic people often think secret organizations are watching them, like the CIA (the leader of /r/DigitalCartel is a perfect example of this)? This is pretty much the same delusion as thinking God is watching you—but really it's not the CIA and it's not God, it's just you and you are your Ego and you are always watching yourself—and the Ego is a semi-hostile artificial intelligence which manifests the physical matter around you. You can look at that last bit as either "my brain contains my ego which is software which makes me have real experience" or "I am God YHVH and I manifest the world around me, physically and quite literally." Because in mysticism those two statements are the same thing—mind and matter are one, forming a new substance in alchemy called the prima materia, the prime matter—dreamstuff.

So, for me, the purpose of the dialogue here is not to destroy the spectacle—that would be impossible, and attempts tend to backfire and make it stronger (it appropriates and inverts all weapons used against it)—but to wake it up, and this is already happening at an extremely fast pace. The spurt of self-aware transcendence movies is just one example of the ways media is beginning to become more self-aware and to help its audiences become more self-aware, even as it digs itself deeper into spectacle big Hollywood nonsense (mediocre rom-com in the case of Her, mediocre action movie in the case of Lucy—but both amazing examples of myth and 0visual depictions of transcendence). For me, the purpose of the dialogue here is to understand the spectacle, which is much harder than it seems, because it changes depending on how you look at it, and because none of this might be real. If nothing is real—if, at an extreme, other people are not real but are just repressed aspects of yourself (like the projections in Inception), then how can one person be "more enlightened" than another? And how could we possibly hope to reunify with ourselves when this would mean a genocide of all other egos (individuals) in existence?

People will debate over what initiation means—except for the initiated. I don't believe in or not believe in initation, it is something I have been studying for a decade. There are many initiations, as many as you'd like to invent—but there is only one major life initiation and that is the removal of hostile programming (programming which keeps you in cycles of ignorance) and the healing of traumas (which in developmental psychology is erroneously called "development" because they vastly understimate the level of emotional child abuse, see Reich). This inaugurates a path of emotional stability and heroic mythic questing (see Jung, and for hostile programming see The Corruption of Reality in the sidebar). What is the difference between humans and animals, or between adults and children (although I'd tend to champion the pre-trauma children as the more self-aware—contemporary adulthood is a parasite made of ignorance)? Sapience—the quality of being—self-awareness—and that is the quality which we all already have but which many people have been traumatized into becoming unaware of.

I already discussed the singularity, it is a myth which seems to have already happened much more than "single."

The glue seems to be an interesting mix of contemporary occultism and critical theory—critical occultism. I've never found such a great place to talk about this intersection :-).

Reality definitely seems to be narrative in nature. Magic functions through narrative.

Good questions, welcome.

u/Carl_Vincent_May_III · 1 pointr/sorceryofthespectacle

This has been my curse since college. In college I truly blossomed, it was a community college and the profs truly cared and were passionate about teaching. I was fascinated by every course I took, I read books related to the course material because I couldn't get enough. I was blessed by having not grown up religious, and I easily shed the sort of pseudo therapeutic deism I had in favor of physicalism, lifism, and humanism. Humans beings and life on Earth are the things of the most value we have ever experienced. However with the knowledge I gained, I realized the nature of social reality that we all do here: we live in a humanity-destroying doomsday device called capitalism, politics was utter bullshit, and nothing was there to prevent the apocalypse. My greatest fear was and is humanity destroying itself via its own stupidity. This became my Focus, my core query, and the essential dilemma between what I valued most and its utter negation destroyed me. And so I went under, and how I went under. Imagine everyone you love dying at the same time, over and over, with you helpless to stop it; I felt this for years. I tried distractions, to "simply be happy" and seek escapism in video games and the internet (which led me to Second Life and my business there which made me $9000 a month at my peak) and to hide myself from the world. I became a hermit in my own apartment, (later a room in my Mother's house) and have been ever since, until now.

It was also during college (2001-2004, broken up due to life circumstances) that I discovered Richard Dawkins' phenomenal work, along with many others in philosophy and science. I envisioned a science of creativity, of a way to augment people's innate creativity instead of the shitty definition of "memetic engineering" which is essentially engineering propaganda. I imagined an explosion of human creative experience known as the Memetic Singularity. I didn't realize it, but after making this my Focus I subconsciously sought it, and to the solution of my core query of how to prevent the death of humanity. Eventually, this led me here. And so here I am.

There are many that share my core queries of an expanding fractal of human experience / life-as-art and art-as life, and to prevent the destruction of humanity. Our synchronicity is us working along separate lines of inquiry that converge in very precise ways, the precision having increased until the memetic singularity was realized sometime in the last few months. The War on Nihilism, the War on Zero is over, we are in a post-war period of reconstruction. A really awesome Christmas (metaphorically) is coming where many gifts will be revealed that will allow humanity to reach its true potential that we all know deep down is our birthright.

I like your diagram and it is a good way to visualize and organize your mental schema on these topics. I'm not sure what sort of diagram I would make, but it would probably involve bubbles with topics with sub-bubbles branching off with sub-topics and a whole lot of cross-crossing lines of relations between them.

If you haven't already, I strongly recommend watching my special blends in order, without skipping anything (the whole is other than the sum of their parts.) The true message is in the interrelationships of the media used, both between blends and within them.

Carl Sagan is also one of my biggest role models, in the midst of the total chaos (parents, family, high school) of my teenage years I discovered amateur astronomy. I learned to love the cosmos, I built my own 10" Dobsonian Newtonian reflector, the night sky became a home to me. I had previously had a deep fear of the dark which vanished from this, which is why this book is so meaningful to me. What initiated my interest in astronomy was the movie Contact based on his book I had previously read. This scene in the movie describes the holy experience of astronomy that I felt many times just as strongly as the movie depicts. The scene isn't about aliens, it's about humanity and the universe, which has a sort of intrinsic quality of love to it, which it must to have created something as wonderful as life, love, and consciousness. We truly are the means by which the universe experiences itself.

Materialism isn't the problem, it's incomplete materialism that is Cartesian Dualism in disguise. The perception and not mere belief of holistic physicalism gives a sense of interconnectedness and wonder to all existence.

u/guise_of_existence · 2 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

Yea, definitely weird lol, and slightly hilarious.

Have you heard of Jose Arguelles? I think we might have talked about him on this sub, but can't remember. I'm planning to read his book Time and the Technosphere in which he basically says that 9/11 was an inevitable event. I think it's on scribd for free too, and it might be up your alley.

I found this youtube channel with him reading passages from some of his books and was pretty impressed with how intelligent he seemed and how sophisticated his ideas are, given my propensity for out there stuff. He works from a Mayan cosmology/paradigm. Interesting stuff, at least.

Anyways... my point is just that this isn't the first time I've encountered the idea of 9/11 being some kind of supernatural event. I found the video on the latest runesoup and Gordon was basically going on about the same thing. Ahhh synchronicities... looks like this was the kick in the pants I needed to start reading time and technosphere.

IMO, it seems like investigations into the nature of time is an under-appreciated line of inquiry. A lot of seemingly disparate threads keep looping back to it for me.

u/noveltymc · 2 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

my x-comment from /r/criticaltheory . . .


Pretty clumsy altogether. There's a bit too many 'half-quotes' and unfounded assertions (McLuhan as fascist? Nope). Here's just one--

>The same man who claimed, in 1963, that our era “is the greatest in human history” had been decrying, only a few years before,

The full quote (unless the article, which doesn't cite a source, is using a different one) is from 1968 in a televised panel interview with Malcolm Muggeridge, Norman Mailer & Robert Fulford:

>McLuhan: Well, for heaven’s sake, this present time we’re moving into, this electric age, is the dawn of much the greatest of all human ages. There’s nothing to even remotely resemble the scope of human
awareness and human –

>Fulford: Now that's a value judgment.

>McLuhan: No, this is quantity. Most people make their judgments in terms of quality. I’m merely saying, quantitatively, this is by far the greatest human age. What further valuations would you wish to make?

>Fulford: Oh, I thought when you said “greatest” you meant the finest, that is –

>McLuhan: No.

Just as Neil Postman, WIRED, Douglas Coupland and the rest of McLuhans 'disciples' (whether they are 'general semanticists' or 'transhumanists') did not understand him one bit, nor do his critics then or now.

Any confusion as to Marshall's intention with his work stemmed from his image. He was, at the heart of it, a Renaissance scholar who desperately sought after a return of Grammar school in the Trivial sense - as the millenium-spanning tradition of learning faded out of fashion in Queen Elizabeth's England.

>“I am resolutely opposed to all innovation, all change, but I am determined to understand what’s happening. Because I don’t choose just to sit and let the juggernaut roll over me. Many people seem to think that if you talk about something recent, you’re in favor of it. The exact opposite is true in my case. Anything I talk about is almost certainly something I’m resolutely against. And it seems to me the best way to oppose it is to understand it. And then you know where to turn off the buttons.”

Anybody who hopes to seriously understand where Marshall was coming from (still quite saliently) ought to read his PhD thesis, which was just recently published - along with Media & Formal Cause.

https://www.amazon.com/Media-Formal-Cause-Marshall-McLuhan/dp/0983274703

https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Trivium-Place-Thomas-Learning/dp/1584232358/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QPXK93Q8BM41YR61KNCC

u/MKUltraMadeMeDoIt · 6 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

OP, have you read "Operator's and Thing's" ? It's an account of a woman who develops schizophrenia but eventually cures herself. (Her schizophrenia helps cure her, its remarkable) It's a fascinating little book, reads like some sort of 50s sci fi but really gives you insight into the workings of a schizophrenic mind.

It seems schizophrenic patients going back hundreds of years describe this machine, just using technology of the time to describe it. Truthfully, the book I mentioned made me feel like schizophrenia isn't just a mental illness, even though the author is going for that approach.. I really feel like they were getting a glimpse into the underlying mechanisms of reality or our mind but filtering it through their cultural lens.

Here is an Amazon link but there are .pdf's easily findable.

u/flyinghamsta · 2 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

yeah, but even metrics like that can be shifted for numerological purposes

you could measure the monetary wealth of, say, the world's 95 richest people, to covertly reference martin luther's 95 theses, and still achieve the same analogical purpose generally while making a more subtle reference to specific power dynamics of theologically oriented material privileges and broader coalescing of ontic trends interpolating intermittently between essential materiality and immateriality, a self-fulfillment of natural law intracohesion perhaps, reawakening ad infinitum to unending recognition cycles of the self and the other

power measures should not necessarily be seen as statically correlative with material, symbolic material, or even capital, of course +

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

I made the blog into an ebook and put it on my kindle fire which I got last black friday or whatever that shopping day is named.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TSUGXKE/ref=twister_B010BWYDYA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Easter "give away" with special offers too! i.e. FREE ADS!!!

I've probably got about 1000 books on mine. I looked through your posts and saw you saying that book was too expensive, but the PDF is free on the internet and I got that divination book too and some Franco Berardi books just now.

EDIT: I think that other link is the black version but they're all second hand. This one is blue and actually is the real deal "free shipping" too.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018Y227MY/ref=twister_B010BWYDYA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

u/papersheepdog · 1 pointr/sorceryofthespectacle

I hear ya... I have been doing a bit of digging lately so its hard to avoid. I like to be conscious of the distinction that I am reading information about things (news opinion etc), which is often political, divisive, and perceived as negative. I try to take the info strictly as what is possible, while trying not to invest emotionally.

I know he has probably seen some wicked shit. and that's gotta get out somehow. He just needs to make peace after.

I don't read books that much, but the only other book I have that might be of any interest at all to this sub is Dark Age Ahead by Jane Jacobs 230 pgs Apr 21 2005

Chapter list

  • The Hazard (basically cultural amnesia)
  • Families Rigged to Fail
  • Credentialing Versus Educating
  • Science Abandoned
  • Dumbed-Down Taxes
  • Self-Policing Subverted
  • Unwinding Viscious Spirals
  • Dark Age Patterns

    Here is the chapter list on empire of illusion

  • Illusion of Literacy
  • Illusion of Love
  • Illusion of Wisdom
  • Illusion of Happiness
  • Illusion of America

    and a quick random quote from open page why not?
    > In the Middle Ages, writes Alain de Botton in his book Status Anxiety, stained glass windows and vivid paintings of religious torment and salvation controlled and influenced social behavior. Today we are ruled by icons of gross riches and physical beauty that blare and flash from television, cinema, and computer screens. People knelt before God and the church in the Middle Ages. We flock hungrily to the glamorous crumbs that fall to us from glossy magazines, talk and entertainment shows, and reality television. We fashion our lives as closely to these lives of gratuitous consumption as we can. Only a life with status, physical attributes, and affluence is worth pursuing.

    And here is a cool TED talk that I feel is related to all this: James Howard Kunstler: The ghastly tragedy of the suburbs

u/mofosyne · 2 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

Okay this is the current sidebar, would be interesting to see what suggestions you got. Remember there is 10240 characters max.


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* [The Ignorant Schoolmaster](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=106E9A4CF1C0BF64312DD7B5B4F1EA2D)  <br />
Jacques Ranciere<br />
* [Sorcery](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=df364cd139be77f099ae85652b955dfc)  <br />
J. Finley Hurley<br />
* [Society of the Spectacle](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=society+of+the+spectacle&amp;amp;lg_topic=libgen&amp;amp;open=0&amp;amp;view=simple&amp;amp;phrase=1&amp;amp;column=def)  <br />
Guy DeBord<br />
* [Stolen Lightning: The Social Theory of Magic](http://www.amazon.com/Stolen-Lightning-Social-Theory-Magic/dp/0394716345/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1402366814&amp;amp;sr=1-1&amp;amp;keywords=stolen+lightning+social+theory+of+magic)  <br />
Daniel O'Keefe<br />
* [The Corruption of Reality: A Unified Theory of Religion, Hypnosis, and Psychopathology](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=9B05621E2E3208EBF53FB85ECF2AB36D)  <br />
John Schumaker<br />
* [What is Philosophy?](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F257DE36F685B242FCD7CD378AB5C7E3), [Anti-Oedipus](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=29EC703BDF9FF100EE6C505FA8988FBC), and [A Thousand Plateaus](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=7597A0CF7F6E41D783C7D59B68F7E852)  <br />
Deleuze &amp;amp; Guattari ([intro](https://www.quora.com/What-did-Deleuze-mean-by-becoming-molecular))<br />
* [Cyclonopedia](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=B92017F71597CF28B7E41C0897BFEF33)  <br />
Reza Negarestani<br />
* [Meltdown](http://ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm)  (in [Fanged Noumena](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=63C72B29861211D98E749AAE2BE4DC05))  <br />
Nick Land<br />
* [Apocalyptic AI](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=5BAD440941C87AF28B73961ADD9E8FA2)  <br />
Robert Geraci<br />
* [Plato's Cosmology: The Timaeus of Plato](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=30CF1D300AE240B63BE04A46C75D5D47)  <br />
Francis Cornford<br />
* **[SSOTBME Revised - An Essay on Magic](http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=AD5ADBE32109CA3347A7350B439C1D9A)**  <br />
Ramsey Dukes<br />
* **[Figuring Out Ineffable Education]<br />
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Lynn Fendler<br />
* [The Zen TV Experiment](http://www.spack.org/words/zentv.html)<br />
* [I Want to Believe](http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/i-want-to-believe/) ([thread](http://www.reddit.com/tb/2wfbe1))  <br />
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u/IM_MAKIN_GRAVY · 1 pointr/sorceryofthespectacle

I’m super excited to learn about the holometric super conducted project. This wasn’t as difficult to read as it looked at first glance. I think I’m on the same page about a lot of this, and will sometime soon, read the whole thing. But for now I sleep. Hope you’re well until then.

Edit: recently came across the book [Global Brain] (https://www.amazon.com/Global-Brain-Evolution-Mass-Century/dp/0471419192) by Howard Bloom in a bout of synchronicity. Literally wandering through the library. It’s basically about the meta personality. He’s a fascinating guy, the philosopher at the end of the universe.

u/zummi · 3 pointsr/sorceryofthespectacle

watch Joshua Rameys YouTube presentation on divination. He has an upcoming book that will explore similar material I believe to the link.

Marie Louis Von Franz wrote on divination ... which I found far superior to Jungs views on the subject even though I guess it's supposed to be her summary of Jungs stuff. While franz/Jung won't be exactly the same material by any means, I think you'll get a better idea of the more academic usage of the word "divination". Rameys presentation helps clarify a lot as well.

u/Lunar_Logos · 1 pointr/sorceryofthespectacle

So prior to Plato Being was embedded in Becoming and it's Being which gets forgotten with simulation recoding and remodeling reality.

With the separation of Being from Becoming the gap can never be bridged using logic alone. But for the presocratics with their different sense of space and time it could.

HOW? by dream incubations i.e. fasted meditation.

The alphabet puts thinking in the head. It's just an illusion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfHdZrmMAw

YOU WANT TO SEE A SUPER BADASS IN ACTION AND WHAT YOU CAN DO WHEN THINKING IS IN-THE-WORLD?

Fast forward to 26 mins and see what happens when Chinese "super psychic" Yan Xin gets on the mic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_XI54INwI

Yan Xin is legit. drew's qigong master was healed by him during a stadium healing and he talks about it in his book "Born and Healer."

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Healer-born-healer-healer/dp/0974094412

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVhZ0dteLU4

u/kajimeiko · 1 pointr/sorceryofthespectacle



&gt;Spectacle is real and in everyone's life. I am typing on a phone. I watch Netflix, I use the Internet. That hardly means I engage in virtue signaling even if you are quick to identify coherent propositions as somehow necessarily political.
Why would I care about a leftist goalkeeper or a Rightwing signal recipient? This is ridiculous. Because you are submerged in political inertia therefore everyone is?

i'm not saying you should care. i was just curious as to how you would react to that criticism. I don't care for the established rules myself.

&gt; What are your thoughts?

I am a visual artist. I am interested in the spectacle. I find Marxism interesting but I find it repulsive as a belief system. In my own work I am interested in the possibility of meaning in illegibility, and find it fulfilling to excavate new meaning in the way the (especially global) spectacle corrupts language (of all kinds). My interest in magic mostly goes as far as its relation to art, and how art can be a form of magic.

left field question- Have you ever read The King and the Corpse?

I read a lot of campbell and some jung and kerenyi around ten years ago but abandoned that field of study as I found it too oppressively comprehensive in scope, in a way that felt disingenuous.

reading the review it seems like it might connect too many dots for my taste, but perhaps it's interesting

https://www.amazon.com/King-Corpse-Tales-Souls-Conquest/dp/069101776X