(Part 2) Best products from r/starcitizen

I have the C920, it works OK for the head tracking. 1080p at 30FPS there is notable lag even on my fairly powerful machine. I've had it for years.

I have the Apeman TRAWO (It cost me £75). It is a 4K @30fps WiFi Action Camera.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/apeman-Waterproof-Stabilization-Batteries-Accessories/dp/B07DN4JF4B/

In webcam mode via USB it has a very good quality 1280x720p picture at 60FPS, in camera mode it can do 120FPS at 720p. 60FPS @1080p and 30FPS @2.7K. It has HDMI out and so a cheap capture card at 1080p 60fps would work but you would have the OSD symbols visible. On my 4K screen in webcam mode the Apeman 720p looks better, less blocky, less noise, better colour saturation than the C920 1080p at full screen. Also the C920 tends to react to changing brightness levels in jumps in auto-exposure mode, whereas the Apeman TRAWO has smoother brightness level transitions.

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I have tested the lag time of the TRAWO in USB webcam mode and it is about 1-2/10ths of the C920 when it's in 1080p mode. Because it is an action camera it can be set to virtually whatever light level you need via exposure values. It has 3 settings for wide angle. On the narrowest it works very well for Star Citizen - I have no idea if the Logitech Brio is much better because I wouldn't pay that price for a webcam. I know the Apeman works perfectly well for me. Like all action cameras it comes with a tonne of mounts and it is not limited to PC use.

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I'm not recommending any particular camera.. the player/user must decide what is their budget and preference. Be aware that not all action cameras have a webcam function. I recently bought the DBPOWER EX7000 4K action camera in the hope of recommending it for use in the game (I wanted 2 of them anyway).. and for the price (£26) it is a fantastic 4K Action Camera with inbuilt image stabilisation.. but it has no webcam function - but it does have live monitor HDMI out. Their online support is truly amazing, they sent me a free gift of a bluetooth soundbar all the way from China to the UK just because I logged onto their support chat and asked where can I buy spare batteries.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DBPOWER-Underwater-External-Microphone-Batteries/dp/B07S3DYJP7/

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If you were planning on buying an action camera anyway it is worth noting that some of them do work with the game and there is a lot more variety and wider price range of action cameras compared to webcams. It could work out cheaper even if you use a HDMI to USB capture dongle. (£26 Action Cam plus 1080p 60Hz capture dongle is still circa $75.)

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You can even get fairly cheap used 1080p capable SLR / mirrorless micro 4 thirds cameras half the price of a new C920 HD Pro with much better image quality that work as USB webcams and because they don't have fixed focal length the way webcams do you can put the camera across the room and zoom in to your face with a relatively cheap lens. Again they are not limited to single use like USB webcams. They are the most popular Youtuber talking head type camera. Even the really old ones that you can get for around $40 - $50 have good quality 1080p via HDMI.

It just feels so unnatural and unintuative using the pointing finger. Its also not very comfy in the first place. A pretty poor substitute for wasd vector, or a left hand thumbstick.

If I buy anything I'd love for it to be more dedicated to the task.
Something like this would be perfect, it only it were a big thruster as well ahaha.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Nostromo-PC-Gaming-Keypad/dp/B004AM5RB6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398152211&sr=8-2&keywords=nostromo

The CH is superb with an analog thumbstick in the perfect position, too bad it'll cost an arm and a leg.

I use two of these mounted to an office chair, fits a CH Pro Fighterstick right hand and a T16000M left hand. You'll need industrial Velcro or some kind of strong adhesive to fasten it tight to the mount. You should be aware that the mount is smaller than how the picture depicts it and the base of the sticks is larger than the mount bracket, but if you put the velcro on correctly it should work fine. Also, the mount adjusts at 3 separate joints so you have some flexibility but it does not extend so you need to be able to attach the mount to right where you want your stick to be. I can send you a picture of my setup later if you want more info, just let me know. Definitely gets the job done though, would recommend on a budget

Edit: Sorry, I actually use this. It's the same brand but this one gives you more adjustability, you may not be able to get the positioning to a comfortable position with only one joint

If you're comfortable with MnK, I'd say stick with it. Currently, aiming with a stick can be tricky without a good controller and a lot of practice. Mouse is much more accessible. I'd try that for a bit and if it feels unfun, look into getting a flight stick.

You may want to find a mouse with a decent number of buttons to take some of the burden off of the keyboard hand. I use a Logitech G700 which for me has a nice number of easily accessible buttons without having too many to differentiate between them in the heat of battle. It also spreads them out between the index and thumb, something you don't see with many mice which tend to leave it at the left button, scroll wheel, and maybe an extra button. It can be wired or wireless, whenever you need. About 60 bucks.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G700s-910-003584-Rechargeable-Gaming/dp/B00BFOEY3Y

You could also try a good throttle to give a little immersion. Just get one with a decent number of buttons as SC has many functions. I can't direct you to a good one here as I don't have a throttle.

Another possibility is a Nostromo style keypad. I've used one for years now back from when Belkin made their first iteration of it. Razer currently has the rights, which is unfortunate, but I am liking my new Orbweaver so far. The palm rest greatly helps with extended gameplay for us old dudes and the Orbweaver has decent adjustability to where it and the thumb assembly sits. Completely programmable for single buttons or macros, I've found them indispensable for long game sessions. Orbweaver is about 130 currently.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013P0HW7K/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_6

There's also a program for tablets and smartphones where you can assign game functions to a UI. I haven't looked into that yet, but it could be a pretty nice little addon if you already have some form of tablet device.

yea, just a PSA, amd is about to reveal a new CPU (ryzen 3) so if you wanna hold and get that you should be good for years to come. but the 2700x is fine as well.

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Also, AMD CPUs like fast ram so get at least a ram with speeds faster then3000Mhz. (don't forget to activate it in the bios)

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As for the psu, I can recommend this one, it has served me well for years: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-850FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073H3ZZQZ/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_de_

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Just a tip about rgb: It does not give you high performance, so if you don't wanna build a sexy as machine (visually talking) invest the rgb money into better components.

After seeing a couple posts of people's custom button boxes on reddit I knew I had found my next project. I've been doing quite a bit of Arduino and small electronics lately, and this was the perfect fit. So off I went to Amazon, ordered a bunch of stuff I thought might be cool / useful and started piecing things together. Took a few weekends of working on it here and there, the most time consuming part just being tediously soldering and wiring the 38 inputs.

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Was originally going to set it into some sort of project enclosure, but ended up getting impatient and just mounting it to two pieces of plywood with some feet. It added enough heft to it that I can lift the switch guard and rotate the somewhat stiff selector without issue. Eventually I'll get a better enclosure for it, probably grab one off of Hammond mfg or get someone with a larger 3D printer to make one. The Engine Start and black/red button (that I'm going to use for quantum jump) have leds in them that I don't currently have hooked up to the Arduino, but once we get some sort of API into Star Citizen hopefully I can tie them to engine state and jump spool/ready state.

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The controls are:

Power on, flight ready, 3 misc buttons, zoom rotary encoder, 3 misc buttons, quantum spool, quantum jump

Hat switch + center for shield distribution and reset, engine, shield, and thruster power switches, power distribution profile selector, misc selector

Flare Fire button, flare select, 7 misc toggle switches, self destruct switch, eject switch.

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I mapped everything to a button in the Arduino code (no rotary encoder as zoom in this screenshot) so that I can easily bind to functions in Star Citizen. Unfortunately without an API this means the switch positions can get out of sync with the actual ship status easily. If by the time of release / they make an API there still isn't a way to read / set state by API then I'll probably make a new version with only toggle buttons.

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Code Libraries

PCF8574_library for interfacing with the IO expanders
- https://github.com/xreef/PCF8574_library

ArduinoJoystickLibrary for emulating a joystick on windows
- https://github.com/MHeironimus/ArduinoJoystickLibrary/

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Useful Instructables

Joystick Library
- https://www.instructables.com/id/Create-a-Joystick-Using-the-Arduino-Joystick-Libra/

PCF8574
- https://www.instructables.com/id/PCF8574-GPIO-Extender-With-Arduino-and-NodeMCU/

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Parts List

1 Terminal Expansion Board - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PGDWJ2V

3 PCF8574 IO Expansion Board - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B95LMLQ

1 Rotary Encoder - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DM2YMT4

1 4 Position Rotary Selector - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JN2967L

1 Red Ring Momentary Push Button - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017ILTX60

1 Engine Start Momentary Push Button - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MK2394L

5 Heavy Duty Toggle Switch - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078KBC5VH

1 12 Position Rotary Switch - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074WMC9C8

1 5-Channel Rocker - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K5PFPNC

1 Arduino Micro - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AFY2S56

7 Red/Black Momentary Push Buttons - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BD2D96W

2 Red Cover Toggle Switches - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BD2D96W

8 Small Toggle Switches - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DZB6CO

You link and old version sold by a 3rd party as am example for price? Give me a freaking break.

The g13 isn't nearly as comfortable and has very mushy buttons when compared to an Orbweaver. Not to me to mention the Orbweaver is full RGB back lit.

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Orbweaver-Chroma-Mechanical-Gaming/dp/B013P0HW7K/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450137048&sr=1-1&keywords=razer+orbweaver


These pads are awesome and well worth the 60$ higher sell price over a g13. So freaking comfortable and more buttons that are easily accessible around your left hand. I'll take (8+5)more buttons over an analog stick any day.

As far as the LCD screen. Are you seriously going to take your eyes off the screen to glance down at some stats. All useful information will be shown ON your HUD.

That being said, if you REALLY wants this feature, there are apps for your phone which loom 100x better.

You need to chill out, you are acting like these pads murdered someone you cared about.

May I recommend GIC? Its free, open source, and should do exactly what you are looking for. It's available on Amazon app store and google play (or Github if you want to compile yourself!)

I don't know how to share a link from the amazon app store on my phone since I'm not using that store - once home and off the bus I'll try and edit this with the direct link, but just search for "gaming interface client". If you need any assistance I'm the author and I'm here to answer any questions. It's new so still a bit rough but I'm actively working on it - customized buttons is next on my list, then fonts and sharing the screens you create after that.

Edit: grabbed link from my last post - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2LZ5D1

Oh cmon... ssd cost are near 50€ for a 240GB more than decent ssd, it doesnt need to be the best neither the highest amount.

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Since you talk in L, i'll send you uk link for 43 Pounds: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-SA400S37-240G-Solid-State/dp/B01N5IB20Q/

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With this, any argument against the ssd is automatically overkilled.

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It's like saying no game should be developed with only HDD's in mid. or no game should be developed with GTX 1060 in mind, they should be playable with a Nvidia gt 9600 from 2005.

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Btw: You don't need SSD, it's recommended SSD because the loading time will get long, pretty much like GTA V case.

I picked up this monitor and have been using is close to a year now and love its looks and performs really well 144 but its 3ms I was okay with that because of the curve and size as well as the super slim bezels.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N6ZBCVY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hey buddy,

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I have the same laptop and yes i see good fps in space on planets it drop my assesment is that you would get better performance by putting another stick of ram making it 32 in dual channel as it comes stock with 1 x 16, as it is hard to make certain ram work in this dual channel go for a 32gig kit https://www.amazon.com.au/Kingston-Technology-2666MHz-HX426S15IB2K2-32/dp/B01NAL3TYY

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good luck!

I guess to each their own. when I had my n52 It just became apparent to me it was a keyboard numpad with a very poor quality d-pad and a ok mouse wheel in an unfortuantly bad position...

I could get nearly all the functionality by just putting my left hand on the actual numpad and binding it as I would the n52. since you are moving your hand off the WASD area to a grid spaced pad its really close in usage. even more so if you have a nice keyboard wrist rest.

Im sure to the "pro gamers" that doesnt sound similar but I dare them to try it for 5 minutes and see how closely it functions. I guess if you also have some non standard ergo or gamer keyboard you might need to replicate it again with a n52. mode shifting is done in software anyways so no reason that couldn't be done on the numpad too. its a product trying to find a problem, thats why they werent popular back in the day when they came out and why belkin stopped making them and they got picked up as some razor "gaming gear" and re-spun for MMO and MOBA players.

I would gladly change my opinion if say they added some other actual features like analog sticks or pressure sensitive keys etc that would make its existence justified.

I just dont see how they can go from 60 dollars to a mind boggleing 300 dollars. like WHAT? the other sellers have 329... what a great deal.

why wouldnt someone pay a fraction and at least get a logitec G13? its got a screen, stick, more buttons and costs way less.

You could also use these or similar mounts, attach them to your seat and tilt them upwards. like this you get a nicely placed surface for your sticks (sts).

Kind of like this setup.

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Probably this, Oculus, a mouse, and a joystick.

Here it is

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