(Part 2) Best products from r/suggestapc

Hey there, Kramjam. I am in the midst of the same process looking in a similar price range. I am sick of always being disappointed in my gaming experience. I have used budget(ish) laptops and am now switching over to pre-built desktops for some true gaming with room to easily grow as gaming evolves. I thought it'd be helpful to write out my top choices.

I have found some good deals and have listed them. I am debating waiting until after Thanksgiving to see if there are any better offers. I have to decide soon, I guess!

This HP Omen 7700 GTX NVIDIA 1070. $1055.55 on Amazon now. It's the lower end of my spectrum but I think a great value. I am looking at 1080 and 8700 ideally but this is a mighty fine desktop and a huge jump for me. The brand name is helpful here too. Don't know about wifi connect.

I am leaning towards the iBUYPOWER 8700k GTX 1070 Ti. $1,399 Amazon. Great reviews, good value, and nice add-ons. I don't need a lighting remote but that's neat to have. Liquid cooling is also pretty cool (ha!). Good specs, good price, nice accessories, can't complain.

ABS 8700 GTX 1080. $1349.99 Newegg. This almost made it an easy search for me. GTX 1080 plus a great price. My biggest concern is reliability. A few bad reviews on Newegg scared me off and I think this is even their in-house brand. The customer service seems good enough from some research but I would rather not have any problems at all. If you want to roll the dice, I think this is the best value you can find. They also do a 1060 and 1070 for lower prices as you should see in the link. This is it's bigger, badder brother running 1080Ti and 8700k at $1,749.99.

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cyberpowerpc AMD Ryzen 2700 but NVIDIA RTX 2070. $1,449 Amazon. I having been leaning Intel so not a fan of AMD. This system is 3.2 GHz 8 core whereas the Intel 7700, like in the HP Omen, is 3.6 GHz 6 core. But an RTX 2070 in a prebuild desktop for only $1,449 is ridiculous from my research. It's overkill for what I am using now and I would like a better processor but I thought I would put it here for you.

cyberpowerpc Intel 8700k NVIDIA GTC 1070 Ti. $1,549 Amazon. Same stats as the iBuypower but for $150 more. I guess I like the design more than the i.b.p. but I'd rather save the $150. Maybe post-Thanksgiving will shake this price down??

SKyTech 8700k GTX 1080. $1,549.99. 1070 Ti is $1,499.99. Amazon. Looks great in terms of specs, reviews, even looks and add-ons. I would choose this over the cyberpowerpc above. Has some more customizable options too. But based on our budget, I think you would be better suited for the HP Omen or the iBuypower.

Tl;DR

The HP Omen and iBUYPOWER options listed are my two top choices but all of these made it to my final list. I think another $350 for a better processor, slightly better graphics, and better add-ons makes the iBUYPOWER worth it. Even if the name is terrible...

I hope this helps! Please share any of your insights as well.


Edit: I included the differences in specs most important to me. All have at least 240 GB SSD and some have 2 instead of 1 TB of HDD. All of 16 GB of memory and Windows 10.

Alright, got bunch of stuff for you

[$1250] HP Omen (Benchmark) - Alright so this one is way over budget, I'm not recommending you to buy this right now. However, this PC regularly goes on sale for around $1100. In fact, it was on sale only a week ago but only recently went back up. My gut feeling is that it will once again drop in price for Black Friday. FOUND IT! [$994] HP Omen The PC below will have around the same performance but I felt it was worth mentioning because I've personally owned this tower and can vouch that it's great.

[$1100] iBuyPower CylonNE (Benchmark) - Unfortunately over budget, it has a i5 8400 (which is actually better than the i7 6700 in the video (i7 6700 Bench, i5 8400 Bench)). The main upside is the 1070 which is really great and imo future proof for the foreseeable future (unless ray-tracing really takes off, I don't think it will for a few years).

[$800] HP Pavilion (Benchmark) - It's going to do fine with Fallout 76, don't expect anything too great but considering this PC has a i5 8400 (which is better than the i3 8100 in the benchmark) you can expect it to perform marginally better.

[$750] Dell Inspiron 5680 - Literaly last minute add, $50 cheaper than the one above, figured I'd give you both just so you can have options with the brands.

Definitely wait for Black Friday, it'll be your best bet for deals. Don't settle for anything less than an i5 8400 (or equal in performance) or a 1060. Good luck!

Edit: Formatting, I messed up :(

You are right in looking at a desktop as it has a much better cooling than the laptop and most importantly, is far more upgrade-able- hence future proof. In your budget range, I would say go for the best i7 processor you can get now and of course, a gtx 1080 Ti which is better than the gtx 1080.. If you want to stay as close as possible to that $1800 budget, I would say go for this HP 880-050 OMEN Gaming Desktop Computer that come with a brilliant Intel Core i7-7700K quacd core processor, 16GB RAM, 2TB hard drive plus a fast 512 GB SSD and of course, the awesome NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti (11 GB GDDR5X dedicated) graphics card... This will easily max out any game without getting too heated and has great connectivity in terms of ports..and it comes with build in Wi-fi.. Also I need to mention that SSD is great to have..no gamer or computer owner really wants to go without one because of the amazing speed and overall performance benefits offered.

This pc has a much worse CPU but a better GPU, SSD, and 16 gigs of RAM. (Extra money for monitor and keyboard/mouse/headset?)

This PC has an 8th gen i7, a 1060, 16 gigs of RAM, an SSD and an HDD (but no extra monies)

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This PC Has a pretty good CPU, a 1060 GPU, an SSD+HDD, but 8gigs of ram. (But is way cheaper so you can install more ram later.

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These GPUs definitely can't last 7 years but can easily last 3-4. Personally I would choose the one in the middle if you really want this for 7 years. If you want something 100% future proof for atleast 5 or 6 years, I would choose this: amazing PC with a big SSD, liquid cooling, a 1070ti with 8 gigs of ram, and a 6-core i7-8700k. This PC is similar

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Lastly, This PC will meet you in the middle with a 6 gig GPU for a long while, 16 gigs of ram, an SSD, and an i7.

Personally I would choose this one if you really want this for 7 years without breaking the bank.

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Again, good luck and let me know if you need anything else. Enjoy!

That's a very good deal except for the GPU, it's a low range low power GPU. According to several benchmarks, the integrated graphics are better but in some CPU intensive games such as CS:GO or LoL, it performs better with a discrete card. Down the line, if you can afford it, you should replace the GPU with a mid range card such as the RX series from AMD or anything GTX 960 above.

If you can save up, you would be better off with this computer as the CPU and GPU are more balanced and it comes with a Wifi card. The i5 6402p performs wonderfully in games and the RX 480 is the perfect card to complement it. For example, on GTA V, at ultra settings, it's able to play at a consistent 80 FPS.

I found these 2, but for the life of me I couldn't find one with 16GB or RAM.

$710 - CYBERPOWERPC - i5-9400F, B360, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 2400), 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi

$660 - SkyTech - Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 3000), 500G SSD, WiFi

I'm leaning towards the Ryzen pc. I like the faster memory, and while it has less storage, I personally would prefer the larger 500GB SSD over an 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo.

One thing to also keep in mind is that it is a single stick of memory. Having 8GB of RAM in dual channel (2 sticks that are 4GB each) is better than single channel (1 stick that is 8GB), but having a single 8GB stick means that in the future, if you do decide to upgrade to 16GB, you will be able to run the most ideal RAM setup for gaming (2 sticks that are 8GB each)

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For reference:

1 stick of RAM that is 8GB 3000 would cost around $30-40. It's a large margin cause ideally you want to buy the same model that is in your current rig so they match. While it isn't required, running RAM at the same speed and latency (and same DRAM cache modules) is ideal.

1-2TB HDDs are around $30-50

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Both of these are also very easy to install.

Yeah, im really pushing my budget with the Omen- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071V68CH2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

But im willing to throw down the cash for a computer that will last 5+ years. And with the 50$ 4 year warranty all the more reason to be safe. HP has been around forever, so im hoping they dont skimp on shit, but honestly i CANT build this computer on ibuypower for the same price. And even throwing the parts together on pcpartpicker is only like 100-200$ cheaper.

I normally say I wont build a computer for over 1500$, but honestly i havnt bought anything good in years and i have saved up. I spent freaking 400$ on a r390x 2 years 2 months ago, and it burned out yesterday, 2 months after the warranty coverage. And my computer is a hodge podge of pieces, if i am going to have to spend 600-700$ for a card that is normally 300$ im going to say screw it and go get an entirely new computer. I might be kicking myself later but my computer is the only nice thing i own.

it's an OK deal, nothing crazy. The gtx 1050ti is a pretty entry level GPU, great for esport games but not really for modern AAA titles. I'd rather have 8gb of RAM if it means getting an rx 570 or rx 580.

this pc costs only 25% more, but will perform about 80% better (actually a steal at this price)
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-Graphics-View21-035A/dp/B07D5S3LZM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537995252&sr=1-9&keywords=cyberpowerpc

so it's a better performance/price ratio

Or, in the ~650 range, I think I'd rather have this for gaming

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Graphics-Operating/dp/B0771NRPN4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537995459&sr=1-4&keywords=dell+inspiron+rx+570

much better GPU, but less RAM (8gb fine for now), and no SSD. However, SSD's are very cheap these days, 120gb is enough for the OS.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-570/3649vs3924


in the end, if it's primarily a gaming machine (no video editing, photoshop, etc. needed), you should almost always go for the best GPU possible in your price bracket. That will give you the best performance in game.

The thing about 1060s right now is that every prebuilt has one in them so the companies and move on to bigger and better fish, it's not a bad card by any means.

I've never played WoW, but I do know these specs massively surpass the recommended:

I7 8700

1060 3gb

16gb DDR4

120gb SSD

1TB HDD

@ $1000 on Amazon

Get a 1tb Samsung SSD for ~130 or 2tb SSD for ~300

Here's a benchmark with an i3 8100 and a 1060 3gb running WOW on Ultra.

You can expect better framerates with the better CPU. I3 8100 vs I7 8700

The K model CPU is only good for overclocking if you’re into that. The SSD upgrade is sweet, but I’d buy the Omen and a 1TB SSD separately for $100-125 while they’re on sale to save money and add it to the system. Super easy! I could send you guides or DM you.

Edit: This SSD deal is incredible for $127 and likely faster than the SSD in an iBuyPower PC.

Update: I did a bit of Googling for a machine for a Ryzen 5 3600 and found this: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-Gaming-GeForce-GMA8800CPGV2/dp/B07TP6ZL7D/ref=asc_df_B07TP6ZL7D/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid={creative}&hvpos={adposition}&hvnetw=o&hvrand={random}&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl={devicemodel}&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583520386484420&psc=1


While I'll admit I'm wary about Cyberpower's build quality/quality control, etc., this has a B450 mobo, which AFAIK is better than the A320M mobo I listed originally, and a 1 TB HDD and 512 GB SSD. It has a Ryzen 5 3600, and while it also has a GTX 1660 Ti, that will probably be fine for my needs for now. This seems like the best deal money can buy. It's $30 less than the PC I originally listed and is a better value imo because you get an SSD with a more powerful processor, but a less powerful graphics card. I think the SSD being NVMe is a good thing? I don't really understand what that means.


Going to try and find some reviews and some benchmarks of the 1660 Ti. I may go with this PC instead.

The Acer Aspire ATC is a good pick if you want to do the basics for now. The Gamer Xtreme is also a good option as it gets many great reviews. If you want a stronger processor now *This is a good option

Something like this would be a better deal

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Nitro-N50-600-Gaming-Desktop-Intel-Core-i5-8400-NVIDIA-GeForce-1060-6GB-12GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-Windows-10-Home-64-bit-Ci58400/221159953

If you can try and save up a little bit more and grab something like this

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Slate2-084i-DDR4-2666/dp/B07NSVH71D/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?keywords=gtx+1660+ti+desktop&qid=1557683181&s=gateway&sprefix=+gtx+1660+ti+&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1

just went off sale from 750 however, deals like this go on often

I have just recently gone through the same search, and there are a couple of good ones at that price... the MAIN issue with any laptop at that price is the screen resolution that you get (1366 x 768). For a little more money you can get this laptop, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079TGL2BZ/?coliid=IVU2S657KOOBP&colid=3L6XRJBUMY35L&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it. From my research, it's the best bang for your buck at that price, and you get a 1920x1080 display, which is really nice if you are needing to look at more than one thing at a time. You can buy an additional SSD and make it the boot drive to speed up performance. If you do that, keep the other hard drive for additional storage.

You can run Minecraft and do productivity on just about any computer. Maybe get a nice laptop (and mouse) also for portability. Also, with Black Friday coming up, there are a lot of great options. Maybe look at some of your local tech store's ads to see if you can find some good deals. On Amazon, you kind of got an option between the Acer Aspire 5 and Acer Aspire E. The latter will be fairly faster and have more RAM. However, the first Aspire has an SSD which will give it a general boost overall in performance. In my opinion, I think the Aspire E will be a better deal, but you choose.

[ASUS M32AD Windows 10 Intel Core i5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 8GB DDR4 1TB HDD with keyboard and mouse] (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B016TZUNPQ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)


[ABS ALI054 Intel Core i5 6th Gen 6600 (3.30 GHz) 16 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD GTX 950 2GB] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102138R)


http://slickdeals.net/f/8948383-acer-aspire-t-desktop-pc-intel-quad-core-i7-4790-12gb-ddr3-1tb-hdd-wireless-ac-hdmi-win-8-1-479-99-free-shipping-newegg No vid card, but would be easy to add in a entry level card if you needed, like a GTX 750 or 950.

Not OP, but I'm considering this CyberPowerPC computer which seems to be a good deal and well reviewed. Any thoughts?

This doesn’t have an ssd but everything else fits/ is better for $1510

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076VDYS8F/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446676&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+8700+gtx+1070

This one has an ssd but is $1620

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075TL8VXD/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446771&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=i7+8700+gtx+1070

If you really want under $1500 this one is $1180 but with a 1060 instead of a 1070

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757FV6Y4/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1525446851&sr=4&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=4529737223363620266&pd_rd_wg=rRYeO&pf_rd_r=PY0ZC602Q5AYCQVHVER8&pf_rd_s=mobile-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=9701&pd_rd_i=B0757FV6Y4&pd_rd_w=Yno1M&pf_rd_i=i7+8700+gtx+1070&pd_rd_r=b50f4d2f-166e-495d-9fd4-472583291c5a&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075MNH4HP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AW28EV66OQ1K3&p

Thanks for your quick reply. How does this compare to those?

Here are some okay options, having a quick look on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-Gaming-GeForce-GMA8400CPGV2/dp/B07TXGS7YQ/

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Element-9260-i7-9700F/dp/B07V34QQ3C/

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8480A2/dp/B07TWCVFVR/

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/

To be clear, my recommendation is always to build your own, because there will always be compromises with low to mid budget pre-build PCs.

So between the two, would you go for the TI on the CyberPower or SkyTech Blaze II?

Edit: Or this one that I found on Amazon that I think is the same thing?

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Slate2-084i-DDR4-2666/dp/B07NSVH71D/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=ibuypower+PC&qid=1566254047&s=gateway&sr=8-4

If you can spare 100 extra dollars I’d get this one , but if not for that price, get this one for the same price but a $500 value. Seriously it’s a $500 one for 270 get it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LNE0Db7852MT0

Also how do you feel about this?

[CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A Gaming Desktop - Intel i5-6402P Quad Core 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, AMD RX 480 4GB, WI-Fi USB Adapter, Windows 10 Home] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TP6ZL7D

maybe this one?

Sorry to be a bother but do you think this would be worth the extra $100:

HP Omen 870-213w Desktop PC (256GB+ 1TB Hard Drive i7-7700) Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075MNH4HP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UE58Bb46JZMMB

Probably not the best, but add an ssd and you're set- cost $720-
prebuilt
.The GPU- what it can handle.