Super excited for my first build but I think I made a mistake. I recently purchased this ram (G.SKill TridentZ non AMD) for my Ryzen 2700x build with this motherboard (MSI X470 Gaming Plus). I didn't realize the RAM was optimized for Intel until just now (Darn holiday sales). Should I return the RAM and purchase the one optimized for AMD or will this be alright?
Regarding RAM, amd is a little more sensitive to speed. You can read all about it, but basically you should buy some ram that's advertised as 3200MHz and easily OCs to 3600MHz since that's the sweet spot for total system performance leverage. Check out buildapcsales subreddit for the 16gb "on sale kit of the week." Usually some ballistix for like $70
I don't really know enough about the motherboard to understand the status LED's / Qcodes (this is my first build, not really sure what to do)
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I'm in the process of reinstalling windows, and will update if that helps. Again, the build did sometimes boot properly, and I encountered no problems after the boot itself when I was using it.
I think the cooler is overkill unless you plan to get into serious overclocking. The 2700x comes with a decent cooler.
You can get a good x470 motherboard for half of what you're planning to pay. I'm very happy with this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ If you do go with the more expensive one, just make sure whatever extra features it has are worth the cost
I'm running a Ryzen 2700x with an RTX2070, and I'm finding it to be a great combo for VR and flat games
I just installed a 2060 into my computer and everything went fine. I was getting decent FPS in games, and enjoying it. Then out of nowhere I BSOD - and start to worry. I wait until the shut down, then as the computer is booting the CPU fans rev up very fast. I get onto my desktop and notice the cpu temps exceeding 90C almost 100C at some points, I believe I did break 101C one time.
I immediately turn my computer off - go into the bios, and set the core volt from 1.45 to 1.15 (I had 1.45 for around 3 years)
That took care of the temperate issue.
Then out of nowhere both my monitors, AND usb devices were going off as if my computer were sleeping. The fans / lights on mobo stayed on - the GPU fans stayed on. I'd be forced to turn it off, and turn it back on.
Well I go into the bios again and turn "XMP" off which had my previous profile set for my OC'd ram.
I also switch down to the bottom pci-e slot on my mobo as well. This makes me suffer 10-20 frames, so that sucks.
I have re-installed the drivers after DDU'in the old ones for my gpu. I am on the latest version of windows (as of yesterday)
I've reseated EVERYTHING on my mobo besides the mobo its self. That'll be the last resort - just removing it completely, and checking the standoffs if the problem persists.
I've also changed the PSU out from my previous 550W EVGA PSU to my extra thermaltake 550W PSU
Some additional things I'll troubleshoot if the problem persists is resetting the bios to default entirely, and reinstalling windows.
I'm pretty distraut still about this and completely unplugged the HDMI monitor I typically use, and I'm currently only using the display port.
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB \(2x8GB\) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
I'd appreciate any help, or suggestions. I assume windows 10 didn't like my previous clock speeds for some hardware after installing the 2060, and is malfunctioning. I hope it isn't my mobo messing up bad.
Update: Just set bios to default settings - not sure if it'll help. Still using only my display port instead of using two monitors.
Update 2 : Just ordered a new mobo. A buddy suggested the vrms on my board could be fried. About 6 months ago I spilled a couple droplets in my PSU (now replaced) and on top of the GPU...some must of got on the mobo. Also, when I had my AIO installed I accidently knocked it loose and it almost ripped out the entire socket. Thankfully nothing seemed damaged. This happened around 9 months ago.
Overall since I can game at 1440P at a really good FPS and keep my gpu at 55-60C MAX ... and my ryzen 1700 staying under 65C max we came to the conclusions the very unfortunate mishaps I had ended up frying the vrms. I'll continue to use my machine as lightly as possible to see if it has any issues with the sleep mode problem until my new motherboard comes in. Decided to get this one
I am currently picking parts for my new Build....and this monitor for the price looks like a good deal..any other feedback for anyone that has bought it out there...
I was wondering is this monitors have some sort of firmware update or if that is even a thing for monitors (sorry i have been using gaming laptops for the last 7 years).
- EVGA Supernova 750 G3, 80 Plus Gold 750W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-0750-X1
- Redragon K552-BB Gaming Keyboard and Mouse, Large Mouse Pad, PC Gaming Headset with Microphone Combo 87 Key Mechanical Keyboard with Blue Switches for Windows PC Games-Keyboard Mouse Pad Headset
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler - YD270XBGAFBOX
EVGA Supernova 650 G3, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 7 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-0650-Y1
G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-25600 3200MHz Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
Seagate BarraCuda Internal Hard Drive 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch (ST2000DM006)
I can't relate to this one, even as a PC user, because my set up is maximum garb. GTX 760, a motherboard either as old as I am, or older (I'm in the middle of high school). I think I can get to 60 only when the game is on the lowest settings. ;-;
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Although I am getting a new motherboard, it's this one (or a similar one, it's definitely an MSI at around the same price):
Alright, if you're looking to upgrade to a Ryzen 2 then this is the same motherboard you sent but with the new X470 chipset. If you order the original one it'll probably have been updated, but the one I linked will work for sure.
This is the fan I installed in my personal rig. It is an ugly color, but the airflow it provides its crazy. If you can have two of these ideally in the front pulling in air, you got yourself a cool pc.
As for the WiFi adapter, it is possibly buy an external WiFi adapter, but I’ll just link an alternative motherboard that has onboard WiFi (quite a bit more expensive though). One upside to the linked motherboard is that you def won’t need to upgrade this for a while unless you get a Ryzen 3000 series CPU which this board doesn’t support.
I know this post is a few days old, but I didn't want to start a new thread. Does the x470 Gaming Plus have the BIOS flashback feature so I can update the BIOS without a CPU installed? I haven't been able to find the answer
The VRM comparison spreadsheet has it as being comparable to the B450 Tomahawk but this is a X470 and has two M.2. I'd rather get this for $10 over the Tomahawk unless theres something glaring about the 470 Gaming Plus I'm missing.
I know the X470 Gaming Plus doesn't have the flashback feature meaning it either needs to come shipped with right BIOS or I need compatible CPU to first update it unlike the Tomahawk which you can (50/50 shot from what im reading online) update the bios on it with the flashback feature without the CPU.
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Found 32 comments on MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus):
Guess I'll post the link:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_mqQYBb40ARQNA
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q
this, same vrm as tomahawk. on sale
Super excited for my first build but I think I made a mistake. I recently purchased this ram (G.SKill TridentZ non AMD) for my Ryzen 2700x build with this motherboard (MSI X470 Gaming Plus). I didn't realize the RAM was optimized for Intel until just now (Darn holiday sales). Should I return the RAM and purchase the one optimized for AMD or will this be alright?
Youre not wrong. It seems maybe influenced, i have 3 LGA1151 purchases in the past. Mine has:
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WiFi (Intel LGA1151/Z390/ATX/2xM.2 Thermal Guard/Onboard AC Wi-Fi/RGB Fusion/Motherboard) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRZKPXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l77TCbRQT2SMW
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming Motherboard LGA1151 (Intel 8th 9th Gen) ATX DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 802.11AC Wi-Fi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HCPLQ2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_t97TCbVKETH3F
Element14 Raspberry Pi 3 B+ Motherboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BDR5PDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Y97TCb5371QPE
MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l-7TCbTBE119E
Nice! I ended up going with the MSI x470
MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lGY0CbXJP30V5
Buy an Amazon warehouse deal. It's a brand new working board that somebody returned.
MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LLzwDbW3Y00W8
Sub 100, look in new and used section.
Regarding RAM, amd is a little more sensitive to speed. You can read all about it, but basically you should buy some ram that's advertised as 3200MHz and easily OCs to 3600MHz since that's the sweet spot for total system performance leverage. Check out buildapcsales subreddit for the 16gb "on sale kit of the week." Usually some ballistix for like $70
Yeah, here's everything
Ram
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DPZVP3W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Processor
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079D8FD28/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hard Drive
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Power supply
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33SFJU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Monitor
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CVL2D2S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Motherboard
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And case I guess in case that matters for some reason
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079P1VBDY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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And a pic of the inside.
https://imgur.com/a/ehu0mvI
If you have anything else in mind that would help you, let me know. And thanks
I have this motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
this RAM: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232175
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I don't really know enough about the motherboard to understand the status LED's / Qcodes (this is my first build, not really sure what to do)
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I'm in the process of reinstalling windows, and will update if that helps. Again, the build did sometimes boot properly, and I encountered no problems after the boot itself when I was using it.
I think the cooler is overkill unless you plan to get into serious overclocking. The 2700x comes with a decent cooler.
You can get a good x470 motherboard for half of what you're planning to pay. I'm very happy with this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ If you do go with the more expensive one, just make sure whatever extra features it has are worth the cost
I'm running a Ryzen 2700x with an RTX2070, and I'm finding it to be a great combo for VR and flat games
I just installed a 2060 into my computer and everything went fine. I was getting decent FPS in games, and enjoying it. Then out of nowhere I BSOD - and start to worry. I wait until the shut down, then as the computer is booting the CPU fans rev up very fast. I get onto my desktop and notice the cpu temps exceeding 90C almost 100C at some points, I believe I did break 101C one time.
I immediately turn my computer off - go into the bios, and set the core volt from 1.45 to 1.15 (I had 1.45 for around 3 years)
That took care of the temperate issue.
Then out of nowhere both my monitors, AND usb devices were going off as if my computer were sleeping. The fans / lights on mobo stayed on - the GPU fans stayed on. I'd be forced to turn it off, and turn it back on.
Well I go into the bios again and turn "XMP" off which had my previous profile set for my OC'd ram.
I also switch down to the bottom pci-e slot on my mobo as well. This makes me suffer 10-20 frames, so that sucks.
I have re-installed the drivers after DDU'in the old ones for my gpu. I am on the latest version of windows (as of yesterday)
I've reseated EVERYTHING on my mobo besides the mobo its self. That'll be the last resort - just removing it completely, and checking the standoffs if the problem persists.
I've also changed the PSU out from my previous 550W EVGA PSU to my extra thermaltake 550W PSU
Some additional things I'll troubleshoot if the problem persists is resetting the bios to default entirely, and reinstalling windows.
I'm pretty distraut still about this and completely unplugged the HDMI monitor I typically use, and I'm currently only using the display port.
I'll list my hardware below -
> Ryzen 1700 clocked @ 3.2GHz 1.15V
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> RTX 2060 Ventus stock
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> Crucial MX300 525GB SATA SSD
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> Acer Predator XB271HU
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> \B 350 Tomahawk Mobo\
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB \(2x8GB\) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
I'd appreciate any help, or suggestions. I assume windows 10 didn't like my previous clock speeds for some hardware after installing the 2060, and is malfunctioning. I hope it isn't my mobo messing up bad.
Update: Just set bios to default settings - not sure if it'll help. Still using only my display port instead of using two monitors.
Update 2 : Just ordered a new mobo. A buddy suggested the vrms on my board could be fried. About 6 months ago I spilled a couple droplets in my PSU (now replaced) and on top of the GPU...some must of got on the mobo. Also, when I had my AIO installed I accidently knocked it loose and it almost ripped out the entire socket. Thankfully nothing seemed damaged. This happened around 9 months ago.
Overall since I can game at 1440P at a really good FPS and keep my gpu at 55-60C MAX ... and my ryzen 1700 staying under 65C max we came to the conclusions the very unfortunate mishaps I had ended up frying the vrms. I'll continue to use my machine as lightly as possible to see if it has any issues with the sleep mode problem until my new motherboard comes in. Decided to get this one
I am currently picking parts for my new Build....and this monitor for the price looks like a good deal..any other feedback for anyone that has bought it out there...
I was wondering is this monitors have some sort of firmware update or if that is even a thing for monitors (sorry i have been using gaming laptops for the last 7 years).
I am looking to pair it with this:
- MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler - YD260XBCAFBOX
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B428V2L/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- MSI RX Vega 64 AIR Boost 8G OC Computer Graphics Cards
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DH7S1X1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- WD Blue 3D NAND 1TB PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 2280 - WDS100T2B0B
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073SB2MXT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- Patriot Memory VIPER 4 Series 3000MHz (PC4 24000) 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 Kit PV416G300C6K
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0157UQ5A6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A26PVB3960EU85&psc=1
- Phanteks PH-EC300PTG_BR Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass Steel ATX Mid Tower Case Black/Red .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QGZZXG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- EVGA Supernova 750 G3, 80 Plus Gold 750W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-0750-X1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BE058W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
- Redragon K552-BB Gaming Keyboard and Mouse, Large Mouse Pad, PC Gaming Headset with Microphone Combo 87 Key Mechanical Keyboard with Blue Switches for Windows PC Games-Keyboard Mouse Pad Headset
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYH9WB5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AXZ7TDMJNMJSZ&psc=1
Thank you so much for all of your help! I think I will go with the 2600X. I do have one more question and it is about the motherboard you suggested. Is this one any better compared to that one also will it even work with the 2600X: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
Its a
NZXT H500 ATX Computer Case, CA-H500B-BL, Black/Blue
MSI X470GPLUS Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC Gaming, 8GB GDDR6, Dual HDB Fans & RGB LED Graphics Card 08G-P4-2172-KR
Kingston A400 SSD 240GB SATA 3 2.5” Solid State Drive SA400S37/240G - Increase Performance
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler - YD270XBGAFBOX
EVGA Supernova 650 G3, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 7 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-0650-Y1
G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-25600 3200MHz Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
Seagate BarraCuda Internal Hard Drive 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch (ST2000DM006)
Is it likely that X470 boards will go out of stock when 3000 launches? Should I buy now if theres a good price? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CF31C1Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
Found one! Thanks anyway guys!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1iy1DbRPJNDJY
Is there any of these boards you wouldn't recommend? (For a ryzen 3600x)
I'd recommend the MSI X470 Gaming Plus
I would say that of all the components I hate to upgrade. I hate upgrading the motherboard the most.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_XVDYCbGHW4JVB
If you can get a reliable motherboard with good features you can add on other parts as you go.
It's a bit pricey but I think it's worth it.
Please please please use a price tracker so you k not ow when to buy.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/MSI-Performance-Gaming-X470-Plus/product/B07CF31C1Q
Got this deal of the day in amazon aswell. https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470GPLUS-Performance-Graphics-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543264716&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=x470+motherboard&dpPl=1&dpID=51s-4yXNd2L&ref=plSrch
I can't relate to this one, even as a PC user, because my set up is maximum garb. GTX 760, a motherboard either as old as I am, or older (I'm in the middle of high school). I think I can get to 60 only when the game is on the lowest settings. ;-;
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Although I am getting a new motherboard, it's this one (or a similar one, it's definitely an MSI at around the same price):
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470GPLUS-Performance-Graphics-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6MXKA9ZTZMXJV2STC7VC
I hope it'll help at least.
Just some red lights. It's the MSI X470 Gaming Plus.
EDIT: None turn on when I try though.
Motherboard Link
Inside my PC
Alright, if you're looking to upgrade to a Ryzen 2 then this is the same motherboard you sent but with the new X470 chipset. If you order the original one it'll probably have been updated, but the one I linked will work for sure.
Something like [this] (https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470GPLUS-Performance-Graphics-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CF31C1Q&pd_rd_r=7cafdd2f-b5b8-11e8-b369-ffe841fc31b4&pd_rd_w=wo6mk&pd_rd_wg=Q180v&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=N441Y7EH6T36N4MHAMB6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=N441Y7EH6T36N4MHAMB6) maybe?
This is the fan I installed in my personal rig. It is an ugly color, but the airflow it provides its crazy. If you can have two of these ideally in the front pulling in air, you got yourself a cool pc.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5LRQD3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_m0kCDbFQ3KPAE
As for the WiFi adapter, it is possibly buy an external WiFi adapter, but I’ll just link an alternative motherboard that has onboard WiFi (quite a bit more expensive though). One upside to the linked motherboard is that you def won’t need to upgrade this for a while unless you get a Ryzen 3000 series CPU which this board doesn’t support.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_h9kCDb2QQMP37
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-X470-AORUS-ULTRA-GAMING/dp/B07BZ239Z2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1523658275&sr=8-3&keywords=x470+amd+motherboard
or https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470-GAMING-PLUS-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1523658356&sr=8-8&keywords=x470+amd+motherboard those are the only 2 i see at $140.
Would this motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470GPLUS-Performance-Graphics-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=x470&qid=1563767655&s=electronics&sr=1-2 work as in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKdjAcCzlY
Gigabyte has a much cheaper model https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-Thermal-Motherboard/dp/B07FWY246F/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gigabyte+b450&qid=1563767892&s=electronics&sr=1-2 but how do I know exactly if a motherboard has a usb bios flashing feature?
x470 gaming plus should be enough!!! x570 isn't ready for market.
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use this mother board https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X470GPLUS-Performance-Graphics-Motherboard/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=x470&qid=1561946219&s=gateway&sr=8-4 buy them seperately its a x470
You think this MSI Arsenal Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 DVI HDMI Crossfire ATX Motherboard (B450 Tomahawk) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F7W5KJS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wwCyDb1JX28WM
would be better than the gigabyte one?
So is this MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470 Ryzen 2 AM4 DDR4 Onboard Graphics CFX ATX Motherboard (X470 Gaming Plus) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF31C1Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zzCyDb5P9WPCK
I know this post is a few days old, but I didn't want to start a new thread. Does the x470 Gaming Plus have the BIOS flashback feature so I can update the BIOS without a CPU installed? I haven't been able to find the answer
What about the
MSI X470 Gaming Plus?
The VRM comparison spreadsheet
has it as being comparable to the B450 Tomahawk but this is a X470 and has two M.2. I'd rather get this for $10 over the Tomahawk unless theres something glaring about the 470 Gaming Plus I'm missing.
I know the X470 Gaming Plus doesn't have the flashback feature meaning it either needs to come shipped with right BIOS or I need compatible CPU to first update it unlike the Tomahawk which you can (50/50 shot from what im reading online) update the bios on it with the flashback feature without the CPU.