Reddit mentions: The best recessed lighting trims

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Home Improvement list: Recessed Light Can Converters

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I think you could probably make something along the lines of what you're looking for, but I'm not sure how the results would be...there're just a huge number of variables.

My first thought would be to use something like this facing convex side toward the lamp as a reflector. This would get you back lighting and the brushed surface would diffuse things pretty well. As to how to attach it...that's the tricky bit.

The easiest way would be to get a new set of trim rings that fir your lights and then use 2.5" machine screws to install the reflectors with some stand-off distance from the ceiling.

Warning: this may look donkey as shit. You probably shouldn't do it. But it might also be awesome. If you do it, tell me how it works out.

acutally i am a pro photographer and one thing i never understand is when i am adjusting K temp for an image the higher I go, the warmer the light, where as with lighting it seems to be the opposite? i.e. 4100 flourescent seems to be much cooler than 2700K incandescent.

anyway, back to the relevant stuff...
I think LED seems good as ampersand mentions it has broader coverage and lower energy than halogen.

i went to the lighting store and they recommended something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Recessed-RL460830WH-4-Inch-Retrofit/dp/B0081K4TKI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

something tells me this isnt what i want, though im not sure why. im also not sure what retrofit means?

i think i want a more standard can/trim/lamp with dimmer as you have mentioned. any idea on budget for that setup if I have about 6-8 lights.

thanks!

I like the led trims much better than bulbs.

http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Recessed-RL560WH6835-6-Inch-Retrofit/dp/B00F2WRO50

If going bulbs, sticking with a name brand and you'll have better luck.

There are basically two types of LEDs you are going to find for residential lighting.

One type looks just like a regular light bulb, and you just open up whatever light fixture you have and replace the bulb with the LED equivalent.

The second kind is an LED with a replacement trim that are used in can lights, which are common in shower installations.

The retrofit kit (LED with trim) that I linked is not rated for "wet location", which is what you have in your shower. But, this one is... so just be sure of what you are buying.

Also be aware that some of these replacement bulbs are pretty large, so they may not fit in your fixtures (specifically these can replacements).

Finally, it is worth noting that many of the regular bulb form factor LEDs specifically state that they are not to be used in a totally enclosed fixture (as you likely have in your shower), so make sure you purchase one that can be used in that configuration.

If the dimensions work out, a replacement LED panel such as this one (approx. 8 inches square) could be used to replace the missing glass. If you read the reviews there, several mention using "edison pigtails" to run the light as in insert in an existing square recessed light. Then use construction-adhesive to stick the hinged trim up, as the LED panel should have a lifespan such that you won't need to replace it before you move or remodel.

Otherwise, just either buy a new lens with the right dimensions or have a hardware store cut a square of obscure glass to fit, and use [turn bottons] secured in the ceiling with drywall anchors to keep the bezel up in place. It is screened enough behind the cabinet fascia that no-one will notice the extra hardware.

Edit: gluing some rare-earth magnets to the back of the bezel would do an excellent job of holding it against the steel flanges of the recessed fixture.

Good idea, so maybe a deeper one like this:

6-Pack--6" Deep Self Flange Air-Shut Baffle Trim For Line Voltage Recessed Light-White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EPP5SY8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g7VHxb3E3SDF7

Maybe recessed down light. Or retrofit. Or can light.

Amazon link to hue’s offering: Philips Hue White Ambiance Dimmable LED Smart Retrofit Recessed Downlight (4-Inch Compatible with Amazon Alexa Apple HomeKit and Google Assistant) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0798P29FV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lHH4Bb2R0121F

If you have really good above access from your attic, installing a new work can is my preference due to better insulation [1][2]; it is also more labor intensive so keep that in mind. Use a laser level so all the cans lignup.

Generally you pick the can based off of the trims they offer. I like 4" cans as they are small enough that they disappear, but big enough that you can put in a brighter bulb if needed. My goto combo is the juno 4" air tight with a white trim or gimbal trim with a 36 degree bulb. When using the gimbal remove the screws that hold the light bulb base to the top of the can.

Also recommend hiring a pro if you're unsure about any part of the install. Since this will be highly visible, see if you can get some pictures from the business's previous can installs.

I sell comercial & residental lighting for a living, part time carpenter, currently on my 3rd flipper at 30 years old. Your father would be 100% incorrect in my neck of the U.S.

Based on transactions not $$$ sold 80% of my residental sales are recessed lighting. 10% consists of LED flat panel & strip lighting for garages and barns. 10% outdoor lighting

Hands down the most comon remodel setup is a Halo E7RICATNB can with Halo LT56 LED trim. That setup can be had for less $$ than a decent LED hat & box. If your installing them into existi g drywall get the E7RICAT remodel can, attaches directly to the drywall. Link below to my kitchen/dining room. Im yet to defect or warrantee one of these

Airtite Remodel 6" Ic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H3XZ722/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_l53WBb7MR0AP7

All-Pro LT560WH6930R 5/6 LED Retrofit Baffle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01INNA1FO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E63WBbGEE1VZ3




Direct mounts are the newest on the almighty residential lighting scene, once the pricing comes down and they gain a bit more popularity they will replace the can/led trim combo completly.

Halo SMD6S6927WHDM SMD 6" Integrated LED Recessed Square Trim Downlight Direct Mount 90 CRI 2700K CCT, White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078LCKRPY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_h.3WBbRW1SYZT


Color is a big concern, I love the 4000k range but its hard to adjust to. 2700k or soft white was the staple for yyyyeeeeaaaarrrrrssssss. Eaton has a new trim with a switch on the back to change it from 2700k to 5000k. Go that route and try them all.

Mine is 20 x 20 I have 4 in the middle with a ceiling fan like a X Also one more with a eye bulb that used to face the fireplace sorta like a light for a picture but we turned it around.

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I also installed 4 of these

https://www.amazon.com/Recessed-Aluminum-Reflector-Detachable-Included/dp/B01F6TV8BY/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1563991015&refinements=p_n_feature_eight_browse-bin%3A5815613011&s=lamps-light&sr=1-1

Seems to be plenty of light for us.

Looks like you need the Bazz setup. The 2nd option you posted is just the socket and trim ring and you'll still need the can fixture that fits into the ceiling.

I can highly recommend these lights. I installed them recently with little difficulty. Had to get IC rated as they're covered with blown insulation in my attic. They look great and no problems so far.

If the landlord approves, [this] (https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Hue-Downlight-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0798P29FV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539046537&sr=8-1&keywords=philips+hue+downlight) is what you want.

https://www.amazon.com/Inches-Frosted-Voltage-Recessed-lighting-white/dp/B00EAXFM8I

You should be able to pop one of these in there, but measure first to be sure.

Several companies make BR30 lights for this purpose. When I pulled out the original flush mount recessed lights from the cans I had to buy and install baffle cone inserts, then just screw in the BR30 lights. Hue also makes a flush mount recessed light.

example of can light baffles: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074621NMC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

example of BR30 lights: https://www.amazon.com/LIFX-Adjustable-Multicolor-Dimmable-Assistant/dp/B01KY02MPG/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=lifx+br30&qid=1562603245&s=hi&sr=1-4

example of Hue flush mount recessed downlight: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Hue-Downlight-Compatible-Assistant/dp/B0798P29FV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=hue+downlight&qid=1562603291&s=gateway&sr=8-5

https://www.amazon.com/Quorum-Lighting-9701-06-7-Inch-Recessed/dp/B00BD9XL2G

Should be able to see a brand on the inside. That might help.

I believe you have this, or something similar to it:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ANYDLTU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ry3RAbZ5ZF84Y


If so you could replace it with this (depending on your can size):
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-Hue-White-Ambiance-5-in-6-in-Dimmable-Integrated-Smart-LED-Recessed-Kit-801506/303993123

Or a BR30 Hue bulb paired with a trim piece like this:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-6-in-White-Recessed-Ceiling-Light-Baffle-and-Trim-Ring-410W/100026232

I don’t know the brand & size of your can so that is just an example.

Well it depends on what you need, right? But I did a Google search for you: https://www.amazon.com/Pack-White-Goof-Recessed-Light/dp/B00V2IF3J2

Rip out that ugly old CFL spiral and put in a shallower LED flood bulb.

Or, if you use this Westinghouse convertor, you can put any kind of light fixture you like up there! https://www.amazon.com/Westinghouse-0101100-Recessed-Light-Converter/dp/B00FGQ19LC

I've used them twice and they work really well. You can put a pendant up there, or a flush fixture.

They make these Hue Recessed Lights

How about a retrofit hue can light?

I put 9 - 5" LED lights in a similar sized space (my basement Rec room) and it is way overkill. I have them separated on 2 dimmer switches, 3 back and six front.

I usually only have the back 3 on low, but when I want more light I put the front size on low as well.

I can't remember the amount of light the put out, but this is the same model I installed in 4".

There are conversion kits for recessed can lights to surface mount that can eliminate the need for drywall repair and/or entry into the attic.
For example. Limited to 50lbs. And depends upon installation into a conventional new work recessed lighting fixture, not a retro, old work kit.