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u/ehempel · 3 pointsr/technology

There is a good argument to be made against copyright as well. See Against Intellectual Monopoly by Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine and Against Intellectual Property by Stephan N. Kinsella

u/michaelmclees · 3 pointsr/LifeProTips

Arguments are as follows...

1 - Suppose I create a song and put it on a CD for people to buy. They put $5.00 in the mail and send it to me, and in return, I send them a CD with my song on it. On the envelope, it says, "Don't copy or I'll sue. Opening this package is an agreement to not copy."

A guy who bought it opens it up and decides to make a copy to give to his friend as a gift.

The friend makes a torrent and releases it, seeding it until it is self sustaining.

Now, I might have some claim of action against the first copier, because I have an agreement with him. The problem is that I don't have any kind of relationship with everyone else, so why should they be beholden to an agreement that only the first copier made with me? I argue that if there is no agreement, they shouldn't be.

2 - The copyright holder does not own your computer, so if his claim that you cannot infringe on his ownership has any merit, so does your claim that he may not infringe on your computer.

3 - Intellectual property, for the most part, is not legitimate property. See this book to find out why. This ties in with #2.

u/JoeThankYou · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

How about if in my example, I compared pirating music with using Wikipedia without ever donating money to them? That's the same then. Does the financial situation of wikipedia employees matter? Would it be worth documenting the wikipedia workers' lives? Could that be done without looking like a "donate to wikipedia!" ad?

The best comparison of music piracy is undoubtedly movie piracy; there's clearly no ethical difference. Is it worthwhile to look at how movie producers have been affected financially? Do you think that such a thing could be made without looking like it's pushing a political agenda for the MPAA?

I know that journalism without advocacy exists though, and sure, this information could be useful to people, but like I said in my original post, I just think it's writing the wrong narrative.

Lets say a Walmart moves into town, and runs the local Kmart out of business (not a comparison to music piracy, just an example of voluntarism). Is it appropriate to document the lives of those displaced Kmart workers? Should we make people feel bad about shopping at Walmart? I would say it doesn't matter because everything is completely voluntary, as long as Walmart doesn't purchase from slave owners and doesn't steal things from other people. Voluntary interactions are generally ethical and coercion is generally unethical. It's pretty easy to see what is voluntary and what is coercive when it comes to slavery vs labor, and theft vs trade of physical property. However, It's not clear that violations of intellectual property are unethical or coercive. It's wrong to steal someone's car, because if you do, they don't have a car. If you steal someone's recipe, they still have that recipe.

There are actually very strong arguments that protecting intellectual property causes a net loss for society. This is a very good book, if you're interested. This one is good too, and talks extensively about the philosophy of property rights. In short, IP protection can be very damaging to creative industries because it hampers derivative works, causes a chilling effect which stifles innovation even more, and increases barriers to enter those markets.

u/Market-Anarchist · 1 pointr/Anarcho_Capitalism

Ahhhhhhhhhh. I get it now. You still believe in IP. No wonder you're not seeing the big issue.

Read Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella.

http://www.amazon.com/Against-Intellectual-Property-Stephan-Kinsella/dp/B001DTHFWS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412965306&sr=8-1&keywords=against+intellectual+property