Reddit mentions of ARCTIC P12 PWM PST Value Pack - 120 mm Case Fan, Five Pack, PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, Very Quiet Motor, Computer, 200-1800 RPM - Black/Black

$28 for the same on Amazon. Just in case anyone doesn't want to make an extra google account for these.

These are the changes I would make:

• The CPU cooler we discussed
  
  
• faster RAM
  
  
• A cheaper SSD that will still be more than good enough
  
  
• The Powercolor card that you picked is a hair better than the Gigabyte. But the Gigabyte one is $30 cheaper. Personally, I don't think the extra 1-2fps is worth $30, but if you do, then get the Powercolor card.
  
  
• 750W is kinda overkill. Frankly 650W is more than you would ever need also, but this way you're saving $40.
  
  
• For fans, I take a "wait and see approach". Don't buy additional fans until after you have built your PC and used it for a few days. They might end up needing them, you might not. You can always buy them later if you think you need them. Also, $65 is a lot to spend on fans. The Silent Wings 3 are excellent fans. If you want to absolute quietest available, beQuiet and Noctua are the way to go. However, keep in mind that there are fans that are mostly as good and significantly cheaper. The Arctic F12 and P12 series are pretty good budget fans: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC782D5/ You get 5 of them for under $30. As long as you run of them under 800rpm, they are very quiet and 3 of them in the front weill move a ton of air.
  
  
• Basically, if you want the premium beQuiet fans, go for it. But think long and hard if it's the best use of your money.
  
  

• People have good things to say about the monitor you picked. If that's definitely what you want, go for it. Personally, I have a bias for IPS panels. I wouldn't use anything else at this point. So I would go with a different 144Hz monitor.
  

  
  

  PCPartPicker Part List
  

  
  

  Type|Item|Price
  

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  CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $194.00 @ Amazon
  CPU Cooler | Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler | $44.49 @ Amazon
  Motherboard | MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard | $114.99 @ Amazon
  Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $69.98 @ Amazon
  Storage | HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $62.99 @ Newegg
  Video Card | Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card | $403.98 @ Newegg
  Case | Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.99 @ Walmart
  Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $94.99 @ Amazon
  Monitor | LG 27GL650F-B 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $249.99 @ Amazon
  | Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
  | Total | $1325.40
  | Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-22 17:43 EST-0500 |

>All black case fans

On the cheap side, Arctic P12/P14 (10-12$ or 5 for like 35-40$) can do the trick. Otherwise, Fractal Design has good ones in the GP-12/14, (20$) and HF/HP series (closer to 30) are quite nice.

>Any alternatives? Anywhere else I can buy them? Anyone know why the price increase, are they just not going to be selling them anymore and that's just the last stock?

Considering they're in Germany, I'd guess their situation is the same as Cryorig: trade war has affected their ability to sell in North America, and so their products are harder to come by.

E: Amazon seems to have one SilentWings 140 in Warehouse deals for 21-ish $

I bought a value pack of 5 fans for $28 on Amazon. PWM PST ones.

There are fans that can be daisy-chained off of one PWM plug, so you have several fans all hooked up and behaving as one fan, with respect to speed etc. I got a set from Arctic (search on Arctic PWM PST and you can find them) - like $30 for a pack of 5 on Amazon, and you just hook the first one up to the mobo and then the rest of them get chained off of that first one. No exotic hubs or controllers or software needed.

I think Arctic says you shouldn't hook up more than 5 of them in one series, but as long as you have multiple PWM connectors on your mobo, 14 should be no problem.

EDIT: here you go:

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Black-Value-Pack-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07HC782D5/

The goal is to have optimal cooling. With radiators you want high static pressure fans. Those Deepcool fans are rated at 1.63 mmH2O which is sub par. For example, these Scythe fans are have a higher static pressure rating and are relatively cheap.

Unless you care about the white fan blades, the P12 version with black blades seem to be better at moving air and quieter. Note that these aren't PWM so they'll run at max speed unless your motherboard supports changing fan speeds via voltage. Arctic fans are great value.

edit: In my opinion you should by the PWM pack, which has fans that can be daisy-chained: https://www.amazon.ca/Arctic-ACFAN00135A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=arctic+p12&qid=1570383785&sr=8-2

You can actually get these in a 5 pack for about the price of one Noctua, best value for fans out there by far

get the Arctic P12 PMW 5-Pack on Amazon for $30, they're great fans

Arctic P12. You can get a 5 pack for $28, normally they are $10 a piece.

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5

Not the best fans, but they punch above their weight class. I would say a Noctua P12-redux for $15 is similar.

Yes, this is every part you will need to build a PC. Maybe add some extra fans for cooling.

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https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5

Alright so I converted euros to dollars and then worked off of that budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Y2kCb
I believe this should satisfy most of your needs I did forget to do the fans but I think if you use these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HN9qDbEV9N557
It should workout.

High key would be jealous if you bought

I'd get these
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST (Black/Black) Value Pack - Pressure-optimised 120 mm Fan with PWM and PST (PWM Sharing Technology) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_suzlDb2G37K2V

That case has a restrictive intake and pressurized fans would help with that. Also these are PWM so you can adjust to desired speed.

>Hi All,

>Hopefully I'm in the right spot, if not, please point me in the right direction. I'm looking to replace my DS1812+ NAS with my old gaming rig (originally built in 2009). I think it's overkill, but want to make sure I don't need anything extra or am missing something that will stop this.

>This is my current setup (Besides the GPU which is an AMD Radeon HD 5850, but couldn't find that exact model):

>PCPartPicker Part List

This is all fine, but if you want a CPU upgrade you can get a 6C/12T X5670 for around $20 on ebay. Your 930 has about 5100 passmark while the X5670 has about 7850 passmark. No need to add more RAM.

>I will need to buy some 5.25" to 3.5" converters, but the MB has 10 SATA ports, so no issues there, plenty of memory. My plan is to install Xpenology (Unsure if bare metal or ESXi yet) and overall make the system as quiet as possible. I'm pretty sure I have the stock CPU Cooler still installed, so that would be the first thing to go for something better/cooler.

This drive bay converter is cheap and works great. If you're looking to make it as quiet as possible, pick up a 5 pack of Arctic PWM fans and a replacement CPU cooler.

>Any thoughts/comments/tips going forward? Do I need to keep the GPU in there, or can I just remove it from the setup completely (quieter, cooler)?

You can ditch the full size video card for something smaller such as an 8400GS, which should save you a ton of power. You won't need anything but a means of display out.


>Thanks for your help!

>Edits: DS1812+ had its MB fried and I am using the PC as a temporary solution while I sort out my next move. PC is currently running Win10 for work/uni. End goal is to have something that will be able to run Plex stream (some transcoding) at 1080p for 2 devices simultaneously and possibly use it for cloud storage in the future.

Sadly, this is just another notch in the tree of dead Synology units. I personally wouldn't recommend Xpenology, I'd look into unraid first as it's the most versatile, easy to use, and easy to expand storage focused OS.

I'm looking into getting a new CPU cooler for around $50, any recommendations? Right now it's looking like I'll get the Scythe Fuma Rev. B, but I was wondering if it would be worthwhile to replace the fans with something like these ones.

I was also looking at the Thermalright Macho Rev. B, and I was wondering what the difference is between it and the Le Grand Macho RT. Thanks!

I have these ones in my build in push/pull configuration. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HC782D5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also I purchased my two 480 mm from Amazon used and they work awesome and appeared to be clean and in perfect condition.

Here is one 360 mm radiator for 58 dollars. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B078G4Q21K

And some others from 53 to 57 dollars. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B006097HEC

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HCKWF2X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HC782D5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are the ones I used. So far I'm happy with them. I also put 3 of the 140mm in my wife's 3900X build in a Fractal R4. Working well. I returned the Noctua redux I originally bought for that one.

nah i didn't fit one up top. im not trying to move that damn thing until the pcu hits 80c. i did plug them all straight into the mobo. at .08a i feel good about it... (we will see lol) and yes i also just opened them up to 1700 despite that making pwm useless, maybe i'll turn it down at some point. they're reading around 1660-1680 being powered from mobo and you can hear them but im plenty happy with noise level. i have never reviewed fans but the one thermal take i removed to put in the four was similar to all four wide open. i thought i was going to have to split multiple headers but after a bit of looking it seems fans have come a long way. i dont know what they pull when starting but full speed is .08a their support says pwm signal is good through 4 fans so i just did four and shoved the last one in a different machine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HC782D5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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You could save some money (and get more fans!) by buying an Arctic 5 fan value pack, they usually are $28 USD and they come in airflow or static pressure fans. I bought 5 airflow fans and they do move lots of air and are quiet

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I'd split the budget into getting a case with good airflow, and getting good silent fans:

• Cooler Master NR600 ($70)
  
• Arctic P12 5 pack ($28), 3 for the front, 2 for the top
  
  The case has best-in-class ventilation; the fans have high performance/noise ratio, supports daisy chaining so you don't need a fan hub, and can be configured to stop spinning at low load/low temperature for maximum quietness.

I'm a fan of Arctic fans. PWM P12's and P14's are my go-to. I have several in my Phanteks P350X case.

They sell 5-packs on Amazon for $28

I was planning on putting the case fan in the GPU compartment and then maybe using some of these fans for exhaust. Not sure if I'd need both or just one or the other.

A reservoir that allows coolant return from the top would help a lot with your setup.

Put a X splitter on the bottom 120mm radiator and you can make that a drain point. Not optimal, but that's the lowest point of the loop.

https://i.imgur.com/UNKU1kE.png

The U-bend in the bottom radiator is still going to make it awkward to drain fully. You will need to tilt the entire case back and forth quite a bit.

Sample components:

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-150-lite You can return coolant from the radiator form the top and connect the bottom outlet to the pump directly. You also fill from the top using one of the other three ports.

Add this fitting to the bottom radiator inlet or outlet. I'd do outlet to make draining the CPU/GPU blocks easier.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-af-x-splitter-4f-g1-4-black-7392

You'll need at least one M-M extender to attach it to the radiator port and a few stop plugs. I personally have a ball valve attached to my X-splitter for draining purposes. Much less messy since you can screw in a hose before opening the valve.

Maybe a few 45 degree rotary fittings, especially on the top/bottom of the reservoir if you decide to do this.

You if need new fans, these are baller for radiators.

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Pressure-optimised-120-Fan/dp/B07HC782D5?th=1

No. Look at how much precious impeller diameter has been sacrificed for RGB bullshit.

Better to combine this with this.

Do you own some of parts? There are odd choice like very expensive power supply.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2V68LJ

• 1660 replace 1060
  
• Start with a SSD, it's 2019, don't torture yourself.
  
• Better PSU.
  
  For more fans, get this instead.
  
  https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5