Reddit mentions of Badger Air-Brush Co. Sotar 2020-2F Large Gravity Feed Fine Airbrush, Black

Sentiment score: 7
Reddit mentions: 11

We found 11 Reddit mentions of Badger Air-Brush Co. Sotar 2020-2F Large Gravity Feed Fine Airbrush, Black. Here are the top ones.

Badger Air-Brush Co. Sotar 2020-2F Large Gravity Feed Fine Airbrush, Black
Buying options
View on Amazon.com
or
    Features:
  • The Model 2020-2F Kit includes SOTAR 2020-2F in black box with Instructions. The fine (black) needle / nozzle will spray a "Hair” line to 3/4-inch (19 millimeter) spray pattern
  • The Sotar the 2020-2, designed with the a 1/12 ounce color cup allows for extended use before having to add color, is perfect for intricate detail work; the ideal airbrush for fine and commercial artists
  • The SOTAR 20/20 airbrushes can spray finely pigmented, properly reduced paints, water colors, inks, dyes, and low viscosity acrylics
  • Gravity feed, dual action, internal mix airbrush; The SOTAR was designed by an elite team of professional artists and illustrators. Micrometer setting allows user to preset desired spray pattern; Multi patented design including rear needle release. Badger Airbrushes are American Made. One year on mfg. defects with a lifetime on the PTFE needle bearing and any factory labor repairs
  • Paint source: Gravity feed 2ml cup
Specs:
ColorBlack
Height1.5 Inches
Length8.75 Inches
Number of items1
Weight0.5 Pounds
Width4 Inches

idea-bulb Interested in what Redditors like? Check out our Shuffle feature

Shuffle: random products popular on Reddit

Found 11 comments on Badger Air-Brush Co. Sotar 2020-2F Large Gravity Feed Fine Airbrush, Black:

u/Roebic · 3 pointsr/Eldar

To add to /u/ZSCampbellcooks said: I've found that a quality tool helps ease some of these pains. I'm not saying go spend an obscene amount on a high end model, get something in the top tier middle. I have 3 that I use: Harder-Steenbeck, Patriot 105, and Master's. I use the 105 the most. It is just so easy to use and produces great results. The Steenbeck is OMG fantastic but I only use it for a narrow band of techniques and the Master's took a lot of work to get to a usable condition. If I'm starting over I'd skip the Master's and Steenbeck until I got real good and I'd purchase the 105 or the Sotar or the Iwata Eclipse. All are highly reviewed and used by pros.

Learning your specific airbrush takes time, especially as a beginner. I got a piece of cardboard and filled the brush with water and practiced. There are youtube videos of pros doing this. Speaking of youtube- watch other people that use airbrushes besides mini painters lot of knowledge out there. Guys that do t-shirts will help with color theory and blending, the model plane/car guys will teach under shading, guys that paint cars can teach fading (there was a guy I saw that did grey smokey skulls on a black motorcycle tank that was legit Louvre quality), on and on.

Anyway, a little long but tldr: get a brush in the middle somewhere and practice practice practice.

And everyone should buy this airbrush cleaner. It's OMG fantastic and won't eat your O-rings in the brush and will even strip paint from your models with out damaging the plastic or resin. I use it all the time, like I bought a case.

u/Pukit · 2 pointsr/modelmakers

So that’s a little tough, and I’ll explain why. Firstly an airbrush is a serious investment in the hobby, I used Tamiya rattle cans before I got an airbrush just due to the prices of them. If you think you’re in this hobby for the long haul I’d recommend buying a compressor right and buying it once.

I started my airbrush journey with one of these kits. I found it a bit of a struggle as you can’t adjust the pressure very well and it didn’t seem to deliver a constant stream of air. Saying that u/windupmonkeys uses a compressor very similar and his modelling talent is right up there, so potentially I had a poor version. I painted this model with it which came out alright.

I soon pinged that whole set back on eBay and got basically what I bought it for and did some more research. I then bought a set similar to this. The airbrush is alright, nothing amazing but it’s a dual action gravity fed brush which is what as modellers we’re after. This gives good control and doesn’t use a lot of paint unlike a bottom syphon fed brush. The compressor is the reason I bought it, with a tank it doesn’t run all the time, it delivers a steady stream of air, has a good regulator and water trap attached to it and isn’t very noisy. I’ve had it for about three years now and it’s never missed a beat, a lot of modellers use it as it’s so cheap, it’s an AS186, there are a few variants out there.

You can get a cheaper version that has no tank, this does mean it runs the entire time it’s turned on.

Keep an eye out on eBay and Amazon, you often find the as186 kit cheaper and with other airbrush options thrown in, some with different size needles. The airbrush isn’t amazing but it’s useable and will only make you want to get deeper into airbrushing.

After I used the airbrush a little I upgraded to an Iwata Neo which felt like jumping out of a Corsa into a Ferrari as it’s a really lovely little brush. I still use the Chinese brush for primer and gloss coats. Now I also have a Badger Sotar 2020 and a Renegade Krome which I bought significantly cheaper direct from Badger, they often do a mega cheap sale, I think I got both for $50us each plus postage, sign up to their mailing list and keep an eye out for flash sales.

So it basically comes down to your longevity in the hobby and whether you can save up a few more quid imo.

u/windupmonkeys · 2 pointsr/modelmakers

I probably am not the person to ask. I started (and still occasionally use) with very cheap airbrushes (my first one, if you buy it separately on Amazon costs less than $20 USD) and only recently upgraded to a much nicer one in the last year or so.

The kit I started with was this, this exact kit (Master G23 and a small, tankless compressor), four years ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Master-Airbrush-MAS-KIT-VC16-B22-Compressor/dp/B00BF0MW9G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020628&sr=8-3&keywords=master+airbrush+kit

I still use the compressor (and have no others).

My current airbrush which sees most daily use is this one (a Badger Sotar 20/20): https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-2020-2F-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BROVIO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020664&sr=8-1&keywords=badger+sotar

At the time I bought it, I bought it for half that price. It's a great brush, but it isn't for beginners. ~~~~

Now, most people on this forum are going to cry foul and claim that the Master G23 is a bad brush, oh no, it's cheap chinese made crap and whatever. There's some truth to this. They are much more maintenance intensive, and less precise, but they are cheap and serviceable if you maintain them religiously. I airbrushed my models for nearly two years with just the cheap chinese airbrush, and if you clean it regularly, it'll work fine for most jobs aside from maybe, 1/72 German Camo.

The usual one I recommend is this for beginners after the usual handwringing about those "horrid Chinese airbrushes."

https://www.amazon.com/Gravity-Feed-Dual-Action-Airbrush/dp/B004INERK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468020757&sr=8-1&keywords=iwata+CN

It's a chinese made airbrush sold by a Japanese company, Iwata, who makes their own line of high end airbrushes. Now, some users even cry foul about that, saying that because it's Chinese made, it's not any good even if the quality control is a bit better.

Fine, in that case, one that is often recommended is this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Iwata-Medea-Eclipse-Action-Airbrush-Gravity/dp/B000BQKFAI

Most people wouldn't use the compressor I use; they prefer the stuff that either (1) has a tank (2) has more adjustability in pressure (3) has a water filter/moisture trap. But my compressor has worked just fine for the last few years.

However, the bottom line? I'd say get the best you can afford.

Here's the maintenance guide I wrote for that really cheap Chinese airbrush a while back:

https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/2yzw9o/master_g23type_airbrush_takedown_and_cleaning/

If you are unwilling to do this every single time you use that cheap chinese airbrush, don't buy one.

Good sites for airbrush reviews include Don's Airbrush Tips, which is on the sidebar. Note that he reviewed a Master G23, and didn't have very awful things to say about it, contrary to what most people will say on this sub.

If you look through my post history, any model that was posted prior to January 2016 was painted with a Master G23, if it wasn't brush painted.

As for brush painting, this is what happened when I did a project in 1/144 scale solely using a brush (aside from a sprayed primer, which you can get in a can).

It tells you what I did, and how. If that photo's results are acceptable to you, then brush painting may work for you. I don't really recommend it, since airbrushing is honestly just easier, faster, and in most respects, better.

https://www.reddit.com/r/modelmakers/comments/2esizj/fa18e_1144_painted_entirely_with_hairy_sticks/.

*




TL:DR; The cheapest airbrush combo you can buy that works reasonably well in my opinion is the Master G23 with the tankless, square shaped compressor.
However, if you can afford better, buy better,** not the least of which is because every single person on here except a few people will claim that those Chinese made brushes are garbage (some of the actually are, some are not). The set costs about 50 USD (a little more if you don't have prime shipping), whereas a good "quality" brush (even if still Chinese made) may cost about 50 USD to 100+ just for the brush alone. Brush painting is possible, but difficult for beginners. However, you also will still need it because you won't airbrush every last part.

If you're just starting out and don't yet want to invest in an airbrush, get spray cans of the colors you need for the camo scheme and brush paint everything else (which is what you'd normally do anyway, except you'd replace spray cans with airbrushed paint). If you don't even want to buy those, then I'd recommend a can of Tamiya gray primer, and then Model Master Acrylic paints for that model, because those paints are very brushable once you have a good layer of primer laid down.


The reason you don't buy that SprayCanBrush is because it's the worst of both worlds. It's not as controllable as an airbrush, but just as expensive as a spray can, and it doesn't have anywhere near the precision of even one of those cheap Chinese double action airbrushes that everyone likes to rag on all the time. Propellant is also expensive. If you're buying an airbrush, also don't bother with the ones that give you a hookup to a bottle of canned air; that's like buying a airbrush to make yourself a spray can.

u/KeeperOfWind · 1 pointr/Gunpla

I must had posted in the wrong section.

I did some research on gunpla before I got ready to invest into it.

So I was wondering what airbrush should I pick up as a beginner.
I'm looking to use these airbrush for everything and finer detailing on models.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BROVIO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1451755063&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=badger+20+20&dpPl=1&dpID=31BZaLebDGL&ref=plSrch

The iwata eclipse is a recurring brand I've seen on bunch of blogs and seems to be the most popular

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BQKFAI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1451755023&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=iwata+eclipse&dpPl=1&dpID=41EIKj727OL&ref=plSrch

So which one should I buy? Can anyone recommend any of these?

Last at least the air compressor and other parts.
I've also seen this recommended on one blog:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AQK78/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Apparently it's better then a hobby's air compressor cause of the constant air flow you will get?
I was wondering what kind of hose and connectors I would need for either the badger or iwata if I picked up the air compressor.

Sorry for any spelling or grammar mistakes in advance as I'm typing on my phone.

u/ReluctantRedditor89 · 1 pointr/news

I really like the Sotar 20/20 I got. I watched a few reviews on YouTube before buying one.

At first, I got a cheap $80 kit that came with a brush and small compressor, just to test the water, but using them were a pain. The brush would clog often, the paint was applied inconsistently, and the compressor was hard to regulate due to not having a PSI indicator.

I'd recommend splurging on a good brush, like the 20/20. Watch a few video reviews to see what you like. Iwata brushes were also highly recommended. If you go to a physical store, like Hobby Lobby, you might be able to find a coupon or discount. I heard Hobby Lobby has coupons for up to 50% off some expensive items, but I got mine online via Amazon card financing.

I'd also highly recommend getting something like this to make connecting/disconnecting easier. It's a minor thing, but it's so convenient I can't go back to screwing/unscrewing the hose manually.

Besides that connector, here are the items I got. I've been very happy with them and actively trying to find excuses to use them more.

u/Vn8FvfIHQQSRVAGd · 1 pointr/Gunpla

See also the Badger Sotar 20-20 with fine point for detail work, about $15 more.

u/Setsuna00exia · 1 pointr/Gunpla

So, I saved up some money and have a break from school finally coming up. I see that alot of the badgers are decently priced (i think im going to stay away from the iwata as they are generally over 100). But is there a certain badger that you recommend? the one you originally linked seems like a good one, but is there any details with these other ones that you may have dealt with?

1)

2)

3)

[4)](http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-200-10-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B003970D3U/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1456908816&sr=8-31&keywords=gravity+feed+airbrush
)

5)

Im sorry for sending a bunch of links, but i'd thought id ask and see what you may say :D

u/scientist_tz · 1 pointr/Warhammer

I use a tiny airbrush to paint fine details.

https://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-2020-2F-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BROVIO

The needle on that brush is really small. It can paint a line the width of a toothpick quite cleanly and it can shade details on small models like Space Marines. It's not super apparent in this photo because it's kind of a shit photo but I used the fine needle airbrush to highlight the skin tone on the muscles of my Tzaangors. There's no way in a million damn years that I ever have the patience to do that in layers, however, the really nice ones that GW showcases on their web store are definitely glazed and they achieve a really nice skin tone.

http://imgur.com/GZSuMeD


To get a really smooth transition with glazes you just have to use a lot of layers which is why I stopped doing it that way. The reason people use acrylic medium instead of water is that it cuts down on pooling due to surface tension and adds some viscosity to the application so it doesn't flow as much. With enough layers you get a smooth transition.