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Reddit mentions of Boiron Oscillococcinum 30 Doses Homeopathic Medicine for Flu-Like Symptoms
Sentiment score: 2
Reddit mentions: 6
We found 6 Reddit mentions of Boiron Oscillococcinum 30 Doses Homeopathic Medicine for Flu-Like Symptoms. Here are the top ones.
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- HOMEOPATHIC FLU RELIEF: Oscillococcinum works with your body to help temporarily relieve fatigue, headache, body aches, chills & fever. Safe for ages 2 & up, take at the first sign of flu-like symptoms.
- HOLISTIC SUPPORT: Looking for homeopathic flu relief for the whole family? Oscillococcinum's sweet-tasting pellets dissolve quickly & easily under the tongue; no water, chewing, or swallowing required.
- SHORTEN YOUR SYMPTOMS: Oscillo has been shown in clinical studies to help reduce both the duration & the severity of flu-like symptoms when taken at the onset. Non-drowsy, easy-to-take relief!
- HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINE uses highly diluted biological, botanical, or mineral substances to relieve symptoms. Our tablets, pellets, & topical treatments work with your body without the risk of contraindications, or known drug interactions.
- THE BOIRON PROMISE: We believe there’s more than one way to feel better. Since 1932, we have been committed to providing quality medicines. As a world leader in homeopathy, our passion is your health. Our promise is your satisfaction.
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Specs:
| Color | White |
| Height | 4.33 Inches |
| Length | 4.76 Inches |
| Number of items | 1 |
| Size | 30 Count (Pack of 1) |
| Weight | 0.1 Pounds |
| Width | 2.39 Inches |
Well maybe, but in that case 20 USD for 30 tubes of sugar is a little steep in my view.
The strict answer to your question involves probability.
There is a so-small-it's-silly probability that (even assuming mixing) no original water remains after 2 days. The probability is that each original molecule of water ends up in the drain, two days in a row. For 1L it's like tossing a coin 3x10^70 times and getting nothing but heads. That number is too small to be tangible.
At the same time there is a so-much-smaller-it-makes-the-first-probability-look-humongous chance that exactly half remains after 1000 days. (3x10^35000 tosses of heads in a row.)
The inflection point, where the probability of any of the original molecules remaining starts to be improbable happens after about 85 days of tossing half and refilling.
You can purchase a product that claims to reduce flu symptoms that consists of duck liver mashed and then diluted by a factor of 100 to 1, 200 times in a row. To apply to your example this is closer to simply emptying the glass and refilling it (figure the water clinging to the inside is one hundredth of the total) and repeating 200 times. The chance of an original molecule remaining becomes improbable after 18 rinses.
Here are sixty-eight. Here's a review of the whole field. Even if I don't list individual preparations, can you find a single source for a homeopathic remedy being pulled from the shelves for inefficacy? I can't. The closest I can find is when the remedy turns out to not be as homeopathic as claimed. But even if that were happening, would that be a good thing, really, when it's replaced with other similarly-impossible homeopathic preparations?
Furthermore, at a certain point, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. It's been over two hundred years, and not a single homeopathic remedy has ever been demonstrated to work beyond a placebo, and it's not like we haven't been trying.
But if you really care about specific claims:
Amway claims that, if you join Amway, you can be rich! Except they are a pyramid scheme, or close enough -- the average Amway distributor makes $1400/year. They are still in business -- that Dateline article was in 2004, and Amway is still doing quite well. This is hardly the only running scam like this, and ought to be enough to disprove your original contention.
Back in Homeopathy, there's Oscillococcinum, which has again and again... not been shown to work. There have even been class action lawsuits -- plural -- over the fact that it was labeled as having the ability to cure the flu, and does not. But it's also in stock now, get it by Tuesday if you like.
Ultimately, I think this is shifting the burden. The burden should not be on the skeptic to show that a remedy doesn't work -- after all, all the homeopath needs do at that point is keep selling the same sugar pills and claim they came from a different plant that I haven't proven false yet. The burden should be on the person trying to sell something as "medicine" to prove that it actually treats something better than a placebo. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to sell them, but I think it's reasonable to have a separate section of the store for wholly-unproven remedies.
There's loads of proper bullshit on amazon with five star ratings.
This is a product on Amazon with 1209 customer reviews. 92% of the users claim it works.
To be honest, you don't see results like that with FDA approved medicines, even when testing against a sugar pill.
So either all these people are crazy or maybe they work some of the time for some of the people.
https://www.amazon.com/Boiron-Oscillococcinum-Flu-like-Symptoms-Pellets/dp/B0078W0QOI
i mean in this flu remedy they even claim that:
>Oscillo has been shown in clinical studies to help reduce both the duration and the severity of flu-like symptoms.
which deceives people into thinking it's been clinically tested. i'm pretty sure there's nothing clinical about their product at all, even.
what's crazy is that people are really dumb enough to buy into it, it has an A, 90% rating out of 1303 reviews on fakespot at the time of this writing.
WTF people WTF.