Reddit mentions of Canon EOS Rebel T3i Digital SLR Camera Body Only (discontinued by manufacturer)

• Canon T2i
  
• Rode mic
  
• 50mm lens
  
• Tripod
  
  Dslr cameras are the best thing in a price range of $4000 or less. The canon t2i is lower end but has huge bang for buck. You really do want an external recorder for them. Dslr audio is horrible but that rode mic will really improve it, just not as much as external recording. The 50mm lens is the best starting point it is very cheap but looks great. You need a tripod for a dslr because they look horrible hand held unless you have a good stabilization rig or steady cam.

I'm sure others will chime in with different suggestions, but here's how I would spend it:

Canon T3i, body only: http://amzn.com/B004M170YC

Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens: http://amzn.com/B0007YZLFS

It's a little over your budget, but not by much. If you're willing to spend a little more, I'd upgrade to a 60D. Eventually you'd come to appreciate the extra control dial and better autofocus. http://amzn.com/B0040JHVCC

The cheap kit lens that can come with cameras will produce acceptably sharp images, but will severely limit you in terms of your ability to get good photos indoors in less than perfect lighting. A good lens that opens up to at least f/2.8 is far more important than the camera body you choose- if you go Nikon or Pentax or Sony or whatever, try to budget in a nice bright lens. I have this Tamron, and I love it. It's very sharp, and is a fantastic deal.

Whatever camera you end up with, go jump on /r/PhotoClass2013 so you know what you're doing when your child shows up!

Hey Crimson! I have a pretty good amount of experience with camera work for my gaming videos!


I'm not sure what your budget looks like, so I'll start with the cheapest solutions first.


I would suggest the most easily obtainable camera for live action stuff would be just to simply use your smart phone! For example, the iPhone camera shoots with a Sony CMOS sensor in full HD! Just make sure you stabilize it on a tripod or flat surface because the auto image stabilizer is pretty terrible at times. Secondly, if you do choose this option, I would highly recommend using a different audio source. Smart phones traditionally don't always have the best audio recorders on board.


A web cam is probably your second best solution! Full HD cams can run about 50-100 bucks, but they usually get the job done. Though again, with all these recommendations, I'd suggest you use an alternative microphone for audio.


If your not willing to use cheaper alternatives like a smart phone or a webcam, then I think your best bet would be the GoPro. These products are massively popular for a reason; they can provide BEAUTIFUL footage if used correctly. You can probably find one of these bad boys USED for under 200 on craigslist. For the relatively small price tag, this is one of the best all purpose cameras on the market.


Finally, if you have a decent budget at your disposal, I'd suggest the T3i. If you only plan on using this camera for rare occasions, then I'd advise against purchasing it. However, if your hoping your channel would rely heavily on live action content, then this is it. This is your solution! It might end up running you a little over 500 bucks, but this is the camera a majority of youtube creators have been using. There is a slight learning curve, but when you get the hang of it, your videos will look fantastic.


Like I said though, never use the on board audio recorders these solutions provide for you. Buy a separate microphone if quality is a big concern for you in your videos!

Not an expert either, but I'll give suggestions anyhow.

Camera: I currently have a T2i, it does everything I'd ever want when it comes to that "line" of Canons. The T3i and T4i don't seem that worth it for an upgrade to me. The hardware is the same, and I don't NEED a swivel screen, or touch screen. You may be different, so keep that in mind. That all being said, the T3i body is a good deal.

Lens - I don't personally use this, but I've heard nothing but good from it. Not much more to say I guess. If you want a zoom lens for more versatility during these shows, but it's all relative. I get by at the moment with a nifty 50mm.

Memory Card- I have the 16 gig version of this, and it's been reliable so far.

Audio Recorder- This is where there may be controversy. Most, if not all, people on this subreddit, suggest the Zoom recorder. Its more expensive, so it's up to you. Based on reviews, they are basically the same.

Microphone- Not sure if you WANT this. It depends on what "live audio" you want to record. If its a loud concert, getting audio to sound good will be extremely difficult. The loud volumes, and usually boosted lows, don't make for the best sounding live recording. Recording off a mic isn't the best in any live situation in a venue anyway. If this is the only thing you'd use a mic for, then I may hold back if I were you, if you know you can get a direct line-in to your Tascam recorder. That is the best solution. If not, the mic is great and I recommend it.

Rig Setup- Might want to make a PVC stabilizer, but try and make it look as classy as possible, to look professional (Is that possible with PVC?) If you want to record your Mic audio to your recorder, you'll need this and this to let the DSLR hold both at the same time. You'll need a couple quarter inch converters too. Maybe an XLR as well, if you want to get direct audio feed from whatever the venue is playing.

I think I typed enough. And I probably forgot about something. Anyway, try and make sense of my wall of text, hope it helps.

Edit: Forgot to say, this'll add up to about $1450 if I did my math right. Not including shipping and stuff.

I have the T2i and its great. If you feel like spending a couple hundred more, you could look at the T3i. Its basically the same as the T2i with an updated movie mode and an adjustable screen.

Shopping list.

Canon T3i

Canon T2i - You can get used on Amazon for under $600.

Nifty Fifty

Canon Speedlite 430EX II

Maybe an old t3i with magic lantern hack to run continuously would suit you.

Here is a T3i for well under your budget. This will leave you many hundred for lenses.

Let me know if this doesn't belong here

So I get asked what camera or gear people should get to start out.

My usual answer is this: anything. The camera itself won't help you with your rules or techniques. You have to develope your eye for that.

The main difference between an expensive camera and a cheap one is image quality and flexibility with your settings

I have a lot more on this but I'll leave it with that for now. I'm sure people will chime in below

https://imgur.com/a/yLXhSZp

This photo was taken with a 5ish year old crop sensor camera. And a $140 lens

Canon EOS Rebel T3i Digital SLR Camera Body Only (discontinued by manufacturer) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004M170YC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vS9nDb8B31D5A

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM Lens https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X8MRBCW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Cu-nDbZWEEDT3

Well if you want to stay in the same line, the 60D is ~$880

Or there's the T3i for ~$670

Both still use EF and EF-S lenses, so your existing lens will work just fine on either.

e: I have the 60D and love it - the articulated LCD alone is quite helpful, but the T3i has that as well - my main decision maker was the button layout and feel of the camera - I liked holding the 60D much more, and thought the button layout made more sense.

Prices on Amazon:

• T2i Body: $599
  
• T3i Body: $579
  
  Are you seriously whining about saving $20 on a superior camera?

Just to compare, here is a selection from the Canon side of things with Amazon used prices:
Canon 7d - $990
Tamron 17-50 2.8 - $340
These two are a great basis to work off off and get you to $1330.

If you want to spend some more you could add the following:
Canon 50mm f/1.8 - 100
Canon Speedlite 430EX - 235

But to be honest, if your wife is just starting out and money is a bit tight, don't go out spending $900 or more on a body. As most people will tell you, picture quality is mostly due to lenses. Canon t3i, Canon t4i or 60D as well as Nikon 3200 and 5100 are all excellent bodies and have more than enough features to keep her happy. If you get either of those bodies and a decent 17-50mm lens as well as a 50mm prime she will have great tools to learn on with space to grow.

Just like daegon I would recommend to buy used. Most Photographers look out for their things quite well and most of these lenses and bodies are made at quite good quality levels. I hope this helps.

Get This Lens and a Canon T3i body.

the camera

I think this is the same gimbal either way it could definitely work on that drone with that camera. The gimbal I use is cheaper, but requires more work on our end.

the lens

I couldn't find the drone he is using in that image, but the one I have was built from scratch and was around 2k. All in all, this stuff can be super expensive, but you can also find much cheaper set ups that get the job done. For a BBC documentary I wouldn't be surprised if each rig is 50k or more, but you can do it at home for under 10k.

Edit: Also, gimbals aren't lens specific. The only upside to having multiple gimbals for each lens is that you wouldn't need to waste 5 min restabalizing it with the change in weight/center of gravity.

well the t3i is $579.95 for the body only on amazon, the t2i is $599.00 (but you can definitely get it cheaper somewhere else other than amazon or if you buy used)
here's the 50 mm lens

magic lantern is free. its basically a different firmware that you can place onto your canon dslr.

Canon T4i is a great choice, but the T3i is almost as good and cheaper!


as well as the D3200.

It really depends on your needs, but they are both great cameras! Do some research into them. I think that this video might help.

This.



This.



And this.


If you don't foresee yourself getting into videos, save some cash and go back to the t2i. The articulating screen is honestly the only advantage with the t3i, especially if you throw magic lantern on an sd card.

It all depends on your budget. I would do this.
Rebel 3Ti Body...just the body:
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T3i-Digital-Imaging-Body/dp/B004M170YC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311808344&sr=8-1

with this lens - Sigma 50mm, f1.4:
http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-50mm-Canon-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0018ZDGAC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311808413&sr=1-1

You can learn everything you need to become a great photographer with this combination.

So I'm seeing something really strange.
Just noticed something fishy going on with Amazon.

Go to this amazon link
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T3i-Digital-Imaging-18-55mm/dp/B004J3V90Y

You should see this $100 discount...
http://www.diigo.com/item/image/1ks4o/3h92

Now go to this Amazon page for the exact same thing
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T3i-Digital-Imaging-Body/dp/B004M170YC

There's no one hundred dollar discount.

http://www.amazon.ca/Canon-Rebel-Digital-Camera-Imaging/dp/B004M170YC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

This camera has such a huge discount on it.

What am I missing? Looking to buy my father an SLR from Canon.

> The 2010s will be known for their 0.2MP selfies or 2MP blurred photos, with instagram or Snapchat filters. Or you have a 1000$ canon because you're rich and your photos are artsy.

Ok this is some disinformation I need to immediately squash. I bought a Canon Rebel XTi in like 2007 with a lens for like $700. Even today you can get old APS-C size sensor cameras for extremely cheap. Some examples

• https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005IHAIHA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
  
• https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004M170YC/ref=sr_1_3_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524414951&sr=1-3&keywords=canon+T3i
  
  The sub $1000 larger size sensor "revolution" started in the early 2000s. I used to take selfies with my DSLR without a flippable even looking at the screen before I went to work in 2012 and such because I wanted that quality.

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