Reddit mentions of Crucial MX300 275GB 3D NAND SATA M.2 (2280) Internal SSD - CT275MX300SSD4

m.2 is a form factor, in itself it doesn't give you any kind of performance boost. If it's higher write/read speeds that you want, you're thinking of PCI-E SSDs. Those come in two variants, one being a PCI-E card kind of affair, such as Intel 750 series. The other form factor is M.2. Note that being an M.2 SSD is not the same as being a PCI-E SSD, there are also M.2 form factor SATA SSDs.

If you want the top speeds, you'll want an NVMe SSD. For these, Samsung 960 EVO is a popular choice. Cheaper, but with slightly less performance, you can get a Western Digital Black SSD.. If it's just the form factor you're after, go for something like Crucial MX300.

Intel i3 NUC: $269

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00S42WFNG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481863857&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=i3+intel+nuc&dpPl=1&dpID=41d6zr6M1iL&ref=plSrch

275 GB m.2 SSD: $75

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481863778&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=m.2+ssd&dpPl=1&dpID=51QTvA-1wvL&ref=plSrch

2x4gb SoDIMM RAM: $42
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015HQ9TGW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481863544&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=ddr4+sodimm+8gb&dpPl=1&dpID=51sQw%2B6BcOL&ref=plSrch

Add windows and it's $485 for a pretty nifty micro PC

For $100 dollars more you can get an i5. For $100 less you could get a Celeron NUC which might still meet her needs. You could also get a slimmer one if you don't think you'd ever want an extra SATA SSD.

It looks like your laptop probably has an M.2. slot for adding an SSD. They look like this. The problem is that they are expensive for large capacities. As u/bajungadustin suggested, an external drive would work great too (and for a lot less money), though the transfer speeds would be slower.

Cheapest I'd buy.

the mobo one of the prebuilts I'm working on literally only has 2 sata ports. but it also has an m.2 slot. Would it be worth getting one of these as a boot drive? (the other 2 sata ports are taken up by a dvd drive and the 2 TB HDD it came with)

i don't care if it is NVMe or not, clients probably won't tell the difference. Deciding between this one or https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480817416&sr=1-1&keywords=m.2+ssd

The Dell is definitely worth it over the HP. The i5-7200u processor is almost twice as powerful as the AMD A9. I would suggest replacing the 1TB HDD with an SSD though for about $70.

[this one] (https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1493746438&sr=1-2&keywords=crucial+mx300+275gb) or course after getting [formated] (http://imgur.com/a/DNUQf) it ends in a multiple of 120 ish. Quite happy with it.

pretty solid first build imo, I'm not super familiar with the new Ryzen chips, being an intel guy in general. An extra $22 would get you a m.2 SSD, which is worth considering. Do you need windows 10, I don't see an OEM License in there, don't forget the extra cost.

You could bring your RAM speed down to 2400 and cut out the LEDs, this would save you $40. You will not notice any speed difference at all unless MAYBE if you overclock your ram.

Just a few thoughts, it seems like a well thought out build.

Hey, I have the same laptop that /u/PhunkyFish mentioned. I don't have linux installed on it, but it is damn near silent fan-wise, especially after installing an SSD.

Just between you and me, this is the m.2 SSD that I bought.

IIRC, the laptop doesn't support NVMe, so items such as this Samsung 960 Evo series either aren't compatible, or don't get the speed boost from NVMe. I can't remember which, but I also didn't buy the Evo 960, so I can't speak from experience, just distant memories of brief research.

I won't go into detail as to how to transfer the OS over to the SSD, since it sounds like you're just gonna fresh install (on the SSD, if you decide to get one) and then nuke the HDD.

Is this motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JKCHDC2


compatible with this M.2 drive?: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IAGSDJ0

I don't know whether it isn't reading due to an incompatibility I didn't know about or something I need to do in the BIOS. If it is an incompatibility I'll just refund it and get a normal SSD.

Oh my bad, I was mixing up different terminology. Here's the SSD I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IAGSDJ0. It's actually M2.2280.

My question still stands. How do SATA SSD's hold up against M2.2280 or PCIe SSD's?

I have this one

If you want as small as possible without taking up much desk space you'll either be looking at all-in-ones or mini pcs that can attach to the vesa mount on the back of a monitor. Mini pcs often come barebones meaning they do not have ram or a harddrive.

Here is an i3 nuc that has wireless, Bluetooth, etc i3 nuc

That costs about £250. A ddr4 8gb sodimm stick of ram and 250gb m.2 ssd can be had for less than £150. ram and drive

You should be able to get monitors with a vesa mount on the back fairly cheap, around £100 (like this one ) and a wireless keyboard and mouse for less than £40 (like these )

All told that would be £540 or so for hardware, give or take a little bit. It would get you machines that would do well at office tasks without taking up any desk space. With the wireless keyboards and mice the only required wires would be for power, Ethernet, and a short cable to connect to the monitor.

I would caution that you may be limited moving the license for Windows license. You may need to buy another copy of Windows for each machine but it looks like an oem disk of 10 pro is only £45 on Amazon uk.

I just got a Ryzen 1600 and it came with thermal compound. I don’t know about the x models, though, since they don’t come with the fan and heatsink assembly.

Edit: I also got a 275 gb Crucial m.2 card off of Amazon that was a decent amount cheaper than the 2.5” ssd that OP quoted.

Interesting, thanks.

In the reviews for that SSD some recommended this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Seems good. Same price, more space and even looks cooler.

I'm adding these two parts:

This SSD and

These RAM sticks to

this laptop
tonight.

What do I need to do besides put them in?

Do I need to download any drivers before removing the HDD and attempting to do a fresh install on my SSD? Will my computer boot with those RAM sticks being brand new? (There's only two RAM slots on my MOBO)

I have my important files backed up on DropBox, along with a Ninite for the programs I'd like to start with.

I plan on fresh installing Windows 10 on the SSD, and then reformatting my HDD so it's clear, but do I need to do anything else?

Do I really need to temporarily disconnect the hard drive when performing my fresh install?

Do I need to migrate my Lenovo (D:) Drive files (it's filled with what looks like my hardware drivers, was on the computer when I bought it) myself before reformatting my HDD, or will that automatically install on the SSD? I think it's just a partition. Would I just right click-> format the Windows (C:) area and leaving the rest alone?

Lastly, I made a USB windows 10 install with media creation tool, will it automatically boot from this or do I need to change something on boot up?

Sorry for all the questions, it's been a while since I've done any builds, and I've never modified a laptop, or dealt with a SSD.

Looks like it does! Awesome. Looks like PCIe SSD cards are pretty cheap as well.

This SSD drive

Crucial CT275MX300SSD4 275 GB M.2 3D TLC NAND Internal Solid State Drive - Green https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_0-Smyb6GP5D7K

Doesn't really have the connections for data and power. I'm assuming it's only for laptops? Should I replace it?

GPU:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IPVSN1S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eSoXzbRQ7WY5P


SSD:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MQoXzbF3FBK2Y

I don't think it's linked correctly on there.

If you get another stick, it would have to be the exact same (pay attention to model#, especially with the MHz, timings and CL#). Usually 16GB is sufficient, so most people simply get 2x8GB sticks since it is relatively inexpensive and fulfills the dual channel requirements.

SSD-wise, I'd recommend something in the 200GB-250GB range, take a look and see if your motherboard has a M.2 slot, those are very easy to set up and you will just need to clone your OS to the SSD and set it up as your primary boot drive after.
This is a very solid M.2 SSD for the price:
https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/

I've actually been looking at this myself. My pick was this:
Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive - CT275MX300SSD4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_CzFsybEBEMJXD

It's a 275gb 530/510 read/write capability, or so they advertise.

Someone check that for me, but I believe that's exactly what they have on crucial's website for memory expansion options.

Edit: $76.99 so it should fit the budget.

Something like this? Frys

Ja, da ist ein M.2 SSD Steckplatz. Das ist ziemlich cool, da man da theoretisch eine M.2 SSD mit 256GB reintun kann und dann in den 2.5Zoll Slot eine HDD mit viel Speicher stecken kann.

Ich denke aber die mitgelieferte SSD ist eine 2.5Zoll SATA SSD. Um das also entsprechend umzurüsten müsstest du die verkaufen, könnt schwierig werden. (M.2 SSD 256GB kostet ca. 90-100€ + 60€ 1TB Hdd - Verkaufserlös der SSD)

Eine andere Möglichkeit ist es das DVD laufwerk auszubauen, da ein SATA Bay reinzupacken und da die HDD anzuschließen. (1TB Hdd kostet 60€ + so ein Adapter ca. 10€)

Oder du kannst gucken ob es den Laptop in einer Konfiguration mit einer HDD gibt und dann die M.2 SSD nachkaufen. Oder eine Konfiguration in der die M.2 SSD verbaut ist und eine HDD kaufen. Das ist Meiner Meinung nach die eleganteste Lösung, hab ich bei meinem Laptop auch gemacht.

Here's a YouTube video kinda showing how to do it

You wouldn't be replacing anything, since it'll come with an empty M.2 slot and an empty RAM slot, so it's just a matter of plugging them in. The trickier part will be moving your Windows 10 installation to the SSD so you can take advantage of the extra speed. There's a number of tutorials online already showing how to do this. You can then keep the HDD in there for document storage.

This is an example of an M.2 SSD you could buy. You could probably find a smaller one for cheaper if you're price sensitive. I'd buy this sooner rather than later to make moving your stuff to the new drive easier

This is the kind of RAM you would want to buy, although I'd say the SSD is more important. Get this whenever.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0

Will this work with the Dell Inspiron i7559?

This will surely fit

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480056436&sr=1-1&keywords=M.2+2280&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027458011%2Cp_36%3A1253505011

So, theoretically I could purchase an SSD separately and add it to the system? He had talked about building his own PC but knowing him he'll never get around to it. This might be a fun way to let him have a little ownership of it.

Seriously, thanks so much for your help. I've been looking for your kind of reply for a while now. Yahoo Answers was full of people telling me to just sell everything, including my graphics card and buy some real expensive stuff. I'm gonna go with what you've suggested so far. I've just got a couple more questions and then I promise I'll be done!

Is my current case okay with everything being upgraded then, including an SSD?

Would you be able to explain how an SSD works, please? I've always heard about them being rapid. I think my MacBook has one that I use for uni and that bastard boots up quicker than a footballer and I've had it for a while now. I imagine you have both your HDD and SSD in the computer at the same time? Would a 275gb SSD be okay to use? Do you not use them like an HDD where you download everything onto them so you end up needing a couple terabytes?

Is this the type of SSD that'd work well: [SSD] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT275MX300SSD4-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493827556&sr=8-3&keywords=m+2+ssd)

> ONCE AGAIN, at the same clocks skylake uses less power.

Clocks don't matter. Performance does. AMD had a 8 core 5Ghz chips years ago, didn't mean shit.

>You are clearly the one who has no idea what SAS is, it's an interface and you can certainly use it in raid. It's the only way to get even close to the bandwidth of NVME raid on X299.

And you can have Sata only raid cards?

You do know that SAS isn't the same thing NVME is, right? A NVME drive can be for Sata, Sas, or M.2, And the M.2 connector can be used for both PCI-e x4, as well as Sata. Because NVME isn't an interface, it's like IDE, or AHCI.

For example, here's a Sata M.2 Drive.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0

Same components as a 2.5" drive, same speed, but it goes in the M.2 socket. Which you seem to think is a NVME socket.

And here's a 2.5" NVME drive for Sata Express/SF-8639/U.2

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_xs1715_25_nvme_ssd_review

Honestly, your lack of basic understanding for what you're arguing for is laughable.

Here an image so you don't get confused again.

>I'm saying there are merits to either platform

Only one, edge case, with caveats in it's one bonus. Everything else is rubbish.

>by pointing out NUMEROUS advantages of the X299 platform.

Overstressing POWER cables? A fragmented market so bad most motherboards are useless with the low end chip? Inability to overclock without a Delid?

Nothing important.

>It's a mediocre platform with similar performance to chips from 5 years ago that is decently competitive on price.

Except it wipes the floor in price/performance. Not everyone is spending $1000+ on CPUs. AMD's design means minimal costs, maximum yields, and incredible scalability.

>There actually ARE Ryzen CPU's without SMT and they came up with this stupid XFR feature that basically doesn't even do anything just so they could do market segmentation.

That are $130, and the XFR is a free 200Mhz overclock. Is Intel's Turboboost useless to? Because that's literally it.

>You can run a GPU at 8x if you want, it won't really be measurably slower.

But it will be slower. That's the thing. If I'm spending thousands on a computer build, I don't want a bottlenecked GPU. Keep in mind Threadripper has 64 PCI-e lanes. Compared to the current top tier X299, with 44. That's 5 additional NVME drives.

>You can run a GPU at 8x if you want, it won't really be measurably slower. Certainly better than running all your drive through the chipset (Which X299 can do if you really care that much about bandwidth).

For someone buying a $5000+ machine, you shouldn't have to fucking settle.

>It really comes down to a trade off of weather you want advanced RAID features NOW, or if you want the bandwidth for some theoretical graphics cards that may or may not come out 5 years from now.

There is already a differnace in PCI-e 3.0 x16 and x8. It's only a single digit percentage, but it is there. For someone buying a $5000+ machine, you shouldn't have to fucking settle.

>Also are you now claiming that KL-X competes with thread ripper?

Considering the top of the line KL-X is $2000, whereas you can get a 16 core threadripper for $1000,

That said, Using prices from here we see a 7551p is very close in price ($100). And that is a...

32C/64T, 128 PCI-e chip.

So, if Epyc gets workstation boards, it's possible that will be the competitor. Vs the 18/36 chip. It's not looking good for anyone who needs cores and wants Intel, is it?

>If that's the case x370 must be a big fat joke since it has 20 lanes

x370 is not on the same tier as these chips? It's literally Consumer Vs Enthusiast. x370 goes from 4c/4t to 8c/16t, yet all have the same PCI-e lanes. At least there's that. Every motherboard feature is the same under each CPU.

>but instead of having an additional 24 on the PCH, it only has 8x 2.0 lanes, which pretty much prohibits running any thing bandwidth heavy.

A single 2.0 lane can do 500MB/s, For comparison, a single Sata 3.0 port is ~600MB/s.

And once again, x370 isn't the point of this conversation. It's not a x299 competitor. They're totally different tiers. Would you compare a GTX 1050 and a 1080ti?

Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive - CT275MX300SSD4 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_niMyzb7TQ26K7

Samsung 850 EVO 250 gb

Is this SSD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/?tag=pcpapi-20 as good as the Samsung evo? It's more storage for less.

I have another question, if you don't mind! In previous posts I've seen people comparing the Acer Aspire E15 E5-575G-57D4 to the Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM.

Again, I'm a complete newbie to comparing computer specs for gaming, so I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. If I add a Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 SSD and a Ballistix Sport LT 4GB to the Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575-33BM, I will be around $500. For the Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4, without adding anything, I will be paying about $550.

My question is, which option is better? $50 is an insignificant difference, so I'm just looking for the best specs for the money. Thank you, again, for answering my questions, your advice has been a big help!

Oops: I posted affiliate links in my last post, so I've deleted it and reposted.

would this work and be bootable? Considering just using the DVD bay and not doing m.2 but that would be more expensive. https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-NAND-Internal/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=pd_sbs_147_14?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01IAGSDJ0&pd_rd_r=WH44PSKF0S589P4YVR4K&pd_rd_w=ygPC7&pd_rd_wg=bb6st&psc=1&refRID=WH44PSKF0S589P4YVR4K

get this and add an m.2 ssd (NOT a PCIE m.2 a m.2 ssd like this https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-NAND-Internal/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01IAGSDJ0&pd_rd_r=E614A6ENS96PYMQ7F13C&pd_rd_w=vHpWl&pd_rd_wg=fzn66&psc=1&refRID=E614A6ENS96PYMQ7F13C) https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-i5-8250U-NanoEdge-Fingerprint-F510UA-AH51/dp/B0762S8PYM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518490416&sr=8-3&keywords=8250u a discrete gpu would be entirely overkill.

I would go with an AMD Gpu. Good build, get a discount OS. I am almost positive that board supports M.2 Drives, and I would most certainly switch to M.2, it provides easy installation and faster Read/writes.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1497500931&sr=8-4&keywords=250gb+m.2

It makes for a cleaner build (no extra cables from a modular PSU) and price is pretty comparable.

Don't believe me? see for yourself