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Found 27 comments on Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion:

u/jascination · 28 pointsr/IAmA

No problem mate, glad you're enjoying it.

Books I could recommend: Esquire released a great book called The Handbook of Style that I think offers some really solid advice. Alan Flusser's "Dressing the Man" is a great resource if you're interested in suits/dressing with a more refined, classier style.

Otherwise, fashion forms and blogs are a great resource as well. Lookbook.nu is good for street and casual fashion, The Sartorialist is great for inspiration on suiting. I also really like Street Etiquette as well.

u/ElderKingpin · 26 pointsr/malefashionadvice

Excellent, let me nerd out for a second about suits. Also, that documentary is a GREAT starting point. Personally, it makes me want to become a tailor, and it makes me sad that tailoring is becoming a dying breed of old people who have no younger people to take up their mantle.

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So, before you get into the process of suit making and all of that, and the art that is tailoring. I encourage you to read up on what makes a suit, a suit. But, I'll cut it down real simply for you and leave some links so that you can read up on in depth if it suits you (hodor).

Let's start with the most basic question. What is the foundation of the suit? Strangely, the foundation of the suit, is the shoulder. The drape of your suit and the cut of your suit starts from the shoulder and moves downward. So like we always say, if it doesn't fit on the shoulder, put it back on the rack. There are tons of different types of cuts for shoulders, and how it's padding, and how the sleeve is attached to the shoulder that is all unique to each cut, although it is becoming more homogenized (Personally, I'm an italian cut kinda guy, Neapolitan in specific). How do you like your shoulders? Straight across? Narrower? No padding at all? Extreme sloping? These are the questions you should consider when bespoking your suit, or purchasing your suit in general. How do you like your shoulder to sing?

Next, lets move onto the beauty that is the lapel roll, the flower of the suit, the thing that blooms, the detail that gives your suit depth. A detail that simply resonates with the rest of your suit, don't be flat (jos. a bank), the lapel roll is a piece of art of itself, and a good dry cleaner will not press the life out of the lapel. Of course, you could just do it yourself.

So now that we have touched the outside of the suit. Let's dig a little deeper, how about the inside of the suit? Perhaps as important as the shoulder, is your canvassing. Why is it important? Because canvas is what gives your suit a shape, it's the thing that slowly molds to your body, a quality suit will slowly mold to your body and drape better and better with each wear. A suit with the proper insides need's no hanger to give it shape (put it on a hanger). It almost wears itself (ignore the fact that they are trying to sell something).

Here is some more reading on canvassing

In closing, how about some master tailors talking about their art?

Rudolph Popradi

Martin Greenfield

Multiple tailors from naples discuss their life of tailoring

And now, some books.

A menswear book, a little more for the older gents and those more intersted in history. But very much a classic book that is highly praised for being all encompassing.

How about a book that teaches you to make your own garments?


And a machiavallian approach to the suit. Maybe not as highly praised, but more reading can't hurt that much.

Let's ask some people about their thoughts on the suit and it's changes through the years.

1, 2, 3, 4.

And let's touch on the tuxedo for a bit, probably a little pretentious (especially that esquire guy), but for some reason I like watching people dress up while giving their thoughts..

And finally, a series of videos on a class about suit construction (mainly for women).

Probably doesn't entirely answer your questions, but hey, suits are awesome. If I had enough money to wear a suit everyday for every situation (james bond) I would. If you have the opportunity to apprentice under a tailor, I highly suggest it, maybe you won't become a master tailor, and you most likely will not get paid, but it would be an awesome experience to be under a master craftsman.

u/diet_plain · 20 pointsr/malefashionadvice

PSA: you can get better information about color, proportionality and exceptions to rules like this in Alan Flusser's Dressing The Man. The content of this article is nearly identical, but adds the "contrast scale" as a number concept, but the book adds a lot of detail the article lacks. I read this recently and enjoyed it.

Emphasizing the face, color contrast, and shirts and suits to compliment body size and shape are better covered there. Link if you're interested: http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

u/Averagejoeqpublic · 17 pointsr/funny

Actually, according to the rules of men's fashion as propounded by Alan Flusser, mixing stripes of different directions is fine if the widths of the stripes are significantly different, which is the case here.


Still, I think he could use a splash of color.

u/curtains · 7 pointsr/proper

Dear Yarcofin,

Whilst I admire your desire to demonstrate yourself as a gentleman, despite the fact that no plebeians, such as yourself, shall ever be true gentlemen--as plebeian blood is many shades from blue--I shall endeavor to guide thee nearest, by way of the written word, to the state of the cavalier.

I shall hope you will find much erudition, form, and poise betwixt pages and pages of the following ledgers:

How to Be a Gentleman

The Affected Provincial's Companion

How to Be a Man

Gentleman: A Timeless Guide to Fashion

Dressing the Man

The Art of Manliness

Regards,

Curtains

u/zzzaz · 6 pointsr/malefashionadvice

Dressing the Man is quite comprehensive.

u/[deleted] · 6 pointsr/malefashionadvice

For young people, certain things just look like you’re trying too damn hard: bowties, pocket squares, French cuffs, white collars on a colored shirt, suspenders, wide-spread collars, vested suit (sometimes), etc.

It’s easy to blame other people, but your clothes are prompting their reaction. I don’t know you and I don’t know the way you dress. But perhaps you should think about trying to be more subtle: buying nice clothes that aren’t at all ostentatious. Don’t wear bowties if, when you wear one, people make comments.

In my opinion, the majority of advice on MFA will make a high school or college students look good for other high school or college students. If I wore my pants below my natural waste or if I wore wingtips or a bow tie, the men at my work would think I was an immature, insecure, hipster douche bag. There is nothing wrong with those things, but dress to your audience. Being stylish, being able to express your own, personal style, within the bounds of what’s acceptable to your peers is a true and worthy challenge. An artist is limited by the artistic media he chooses to work with. So to, you are limited by your lifestyle, income, peer group, profession, region, etc. Strive to be stylish and express yourself within you lifestyle’s bounds. Then you will look good without looking like you’re wearing a costume to try to look good.

If following the advice on this forum is getting criticism, I’d like to suggest some alternative sources for advice:

http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344004043&sr=8-1&keywords=allan+flusser

http://www.amazon.com/Clothes-Man-Principles-Fine-Dress/dp/0394546237/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1344004043&sr=8-2&keywords=allan+flusser

http://www.amazon.com/GENTLEMAN-TIMELESS-GUIDE-FASHION-Ullmann/dp/3833152702/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

http://www.amazon.com/The-Suit-Machiavellian-Approach-Style/dp/0060891866/ref=pd_sim_b_7 (especially the chapter for “young” persons)

http://www.amazon.com/Elegance-Menswear-G-Bruce-Boyer/dp/0393304388/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344004086&sr=1-1&keywords=bruce+boyer

http://www.amazon.com/Eminently-Suitable-G-Bruce-Boyer/dp/0393028771/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344004086&sr=1-3&keywords=bruce+boyer

Your library should have these, as they are menswear “classics.” The books are well-written and, though older than something like “Esquire The Handbook of Style,” the advice is better. How to dress well is a timeless art.

u/bigblueoni · 4 pointsr/malefashionadvice

I asked for a copy of Dressing The Man. I heard about it here and hope it's good.

u/feriksen · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

Casual:
Jeans: Jacob Cohen
Shirts: Emmanuel Berg, Hugo Boss
Blazers: Paul Smith, Hugo Boss
Sweaters: Emmanuel Berg (cashmere), Ralph Lauren (merino)
Pants: Hugo Boss
Jackets: Joop, Hugo Boss, Barbour, Burberry
Shoes: crocket & jones

Office/Work:
Shirts: Emmanuel Berg, Hugo Boss, but considering bespoke options
Blazers: Paul Smith, Hugo Boss
Suits: Corneliani M2M, but considering bespoke options
Pants: Hugo Boss
Coats: Joop, Burberry
Shoes: Crocket & Jones, Hugo Boss

Other stuff, like ties (rarely use them), or handkerchiefs, pretty much anything good, emmanuel berg, armani, boss, hermes.

cuff links: anything good.

Hair style: Fairly short, but with an old school cut (think Gatsby).

Note: I am 40,in decent physical shape, and due to the nature of my work, dressing well is kind of a requirement (consulting), so this looks natural on me. Oh, and live in Europe.

Edit:
I should perhaps add that I actually like male fashion in a timeless sense, and take a very hard look at the look I want to achieve (timelessness, natual, refined). For any man who wants to take their wardrobe to the "next level", I'd strongly recommend two books:

http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

and

http://www.amazon.com/The-Suit-Machiavellian-Approach-Style/dp/0060891866

They will both give you the basics of suits, materials, etc, with references to old-school male icons... think mad men on steroids... in the style department...

but never forget, style without substance is worthless.. fashion/style is not necessarily "peacocking", but it does help in attraction of course ;)


u/BrandonRushing · 3 pointsr/malefashionadvice

Dressing the Man

No, really. Buy it.

u/blargleblaggo · 3 pointsr/malefashionadvice

If your goal is to look fashionable, then just wear what colors are in.

If your goal is to look good, then you absolutely want to coordinate your outfit around the colors and shapes that flatter you. Just like a jacket in the wrong fit can make you look fat, a shirt in the wrong color can make you look pale. If you care about fit, you should care about color.

Entire books have been written on the subject.

u/yo_soy_soja · 3 pointsr/malefashionadvice

Just bought and started reading Ametora: How Japan Saved American Style. Previously, I read (and enjoyed) Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion.

I'm an American businessman in my late 20's. I want to be creative and forward-thinking but also professional with my fashion choices. I like to have fun with my clothes while still being respectable.

Any book recommendations?

u/sekreteraren · 3 pointsr/malefashionadvice

No problem friend, I basically only wrote this reply, after I saw the way you replied to the other comments - you seemed genuine about making a change to a better dressed man, and for me, dressing good is a form of good manners. Good job on the decision, it will be the one of the best you took in your life!

To your question: Yes, indeed. A business casual wardrobe is about versatility. If you purchase garments who can work together, you always have many more outfit potentials.

It is why I recommend most of all:
A few light blue shirts
A few white shirts
A black shirt
A button down oxford collar in white/pale blue
A striped shirt.
Grey chinos
Blue chinos (The ones you are wearing in the photo are a super well fit for you)
Dark blue jeans
A gray sweater
A navy sweater
A brown pair of oxfords
A black pair of oxfords

  • When you have these items, and you continue to build on your wardrobe, these things are great to have:
    Brown pair of double monk strap shoes
    A navy blazer, I recommend hopsack weaving for casual style
    A navy/charcoal suit, slim fit, notched lapels - I recommend suitsupply
    Chinos in tan, olive, white


    Basically friend, you just need to make sure that things fit you. If you are not a perfect height for your trousers, get them altered. If your shirt sleeves are too long, get them altered. This will indeed cost you some extra bucks on all purchases, but it is the best investment any man can make in dressing.

    Another thing which is crucial to remember. Building a great wardrobe takes time. It is not something you just get in a minute, you need to work on it and get inspired. As you start wearing these clothes, and you get compliments leading to confidence, perhaps you start taking some more "risky" clothing choices. Personally, I wear a tie 5/7 days a week, even when I am not at work - For me, a tie is my art. I am very italian dressed, but it is a whole world different than typical American or British dress.

    Check out these channels:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmRfQHc3U4fV1-i8Ry1HmtA - Real Men Real Style. This guy is all about business casual. Many informative videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/AlphaMconsulting/featured - AlphaM. This guy has a channel which covers any "man" aspects, however, there are tons of good style videos aswell. This guy has a series where he turns people with "bad" style into great style. It is called "The Alpha M project" Watch those, as he take people shopping and talks about importance of fit and versatility.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/thegentlemansgazette
    Sven from Gentleman's Gazette, is deeply focused on men's style. Business casual is not his expertise, but he surely make some nice videos if you are into tailored construction, tie knotting etc.

    Lastly, I can recommend the book named "The art of permanent fashion" http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

    this is a wonderful book with many thoughts of style, with great photos of the style icons through the years. Much information on basically everything in men's style.

u/OzzymonDios · 2 pointsr/malefashionadvice

There's that book everyone got off to like a month ago. Don't remember the name though.

Edit: Here it is

u/Oldersupersplitter · 2 pointsr/lawschooladmissions

Alright some great brand recommendations on here, so I’ll jump in on the other questions (eg. color and style).

First of all check out Dressing the Man by Alan Flusser. It’s an absolute bible of men’s fashion, and it has fascinating and helpful advice for just about every aspect of style you’ve never thought of, with a focus on suits and formal/professional wear. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

You mentioned 2-3 suits and that’s a perfect number to have for an all-purpose wardrobe. Navy, grey, black (edit: black is not as necessary as the others and could be swapped). Your choice whether “grey” means charcoal or light grey, they’re both great and versatile (if you feel like ever getting suit #4, get the one you didn’t get in this round). I personally recommend no pinstripes or other patterns until you’ve fully established your baseline wardrobe. If nothing else, patterns are more memorable so you can’t wear the same suit as frequently. Ditto with more interesting colors. Start with the core 3-4 colors above, then branch out.

Shirts can and should have more variety, and are obviously cheaper to buy in numerous options. While some brands have reliably higher quality shirts (ie. Brooks Bros), there’s nothing wrong with stocking up on cheap and interesting ones as well. Hell, half of my shirts were stumbled upon in thrift stores and sample sales for cheap and I get compliments all the time. Construction quality matters, but not nearly as much as for suits.

As for colors, get a set of standard single-colored shirts (white, black, blue, etc), because these will be easy to match with a wide variety of ties. Solid color shirt, solid color suit, flashy patterned tie is probably my go-to set up, and it’s very easy to rotate. As you get more comfortable with the basics, or find an item that strikes your fancy, you can play around with more complex combos. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with breaking the basic mold, and some of the best outfits happen that way, but it’s more difficult to know what works well at first, so that’s why I recommend starting with a more straightforward approach. Dressing the Man has multiple chapters on colors, patterns, and the mixing and matching thereof.

One fascinating point I remember from Dressing the Man is the idea of matching the clothes to your facial features. Not every color/pattern looks equally good/bad on different people. For example, notice the contrast of your features. If you have high contrast features (ex dark hair, light skin), you will probably look awesome with high contrast clothing (ex black suit, white shirt, striking pattern tie), and less so with low contrast clothing. However, the opposite holds true for low contrast faces (light hair, light skin, and/or light eyes). A low-contrast outfit (ex navy/grey/tan suit, blue shirt, yellow tie) will match your face well, but a high contrast outfit will make your face look washed out and bland in comparison. And in case anyone is wondering, people with dark skin fall under the “high contrast” category for these purposes, even if their skin and hair are similarly dark.

Shoes are another key element. Black pair, medium or dark brown pair, with a sleek, simple design (rather than lots of ornaments/flash) so that you can use them with all of your suits. From there feel free to experiment with some more awesome, flamboyant options that may or may not be as versatile (ex double monks or walnut Strands from Allen Edmonds). Dress boots are an interesting option too. I would much rather invest in high quality shoes and meh suit than the other way around. One, you’ll be walking on them all day so comfort matters. Two, they take a beating so durability equals money. Three, people are much more likely to notice how good/bad shoes you are than clothes in many cases, especially sartorially-minded folks. Four, the total cost of top quality shoes isn’t as high as it is for suits.

I’m sure there’s more and I may edit later, but that’s my brain dump off the top of my head! Cheers to you, snazzy future lawyer!

u/MsSoompi · 2 pointsr/tifu

No black. Black is only for funerals. He needs charcoal or navy blue.

I recommend this book to every man:

https://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

u/Devvils · 2 pointsr/malefashionadvice

Maybe http://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449/

thesartorialist is good for inspiration, they cover NY, Paris & Milan.

Also try styleforum, they are all over this. There are members there that seem to wear nothing but Kiton & Boroni.

u/Chocolinas · 1 pointr/malefashionadvice

I see this one recommended all the time.

u/fearsofgun · 1 pointr/AskReddit

A book I just got for my birthday talks about how to dress very well. Even though the author uses formal attire for explaining how to dress, he also talks about how shirt shape, color and pattern create a favorable or unfavorable look for someone. The same goes for pants and even hats. So I would say that you should study your body type and skin tone before you go out buying expensive clothing.

Also, if you know someone with an eye for good fashion and is supportive, get them to come out to the stores with you and give their honest opinions.

Dressing the Man: Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion

u/ArthurCaine · 1 pointr/india

Using bedsheet as a backdrop. This guys is a keeper. Go get him girls.

Hope this helps

u/thatoneguy5287 · 1 pointr/malefashionadvice

It's been referenced before, but the book Dressing the Man has as chapter on this. Basically, it says that there are two options for color coordination which are known to work well. The first is mimicking the amount of contrast between your skin and hair tones with the contrast in your clothes. For example, if you have pale skin and dark hair you can go high contrast like this. You fall somewhere in either high contrast or medium contrast, so the you can have a lot of fun. On the other hand, if you're light skinned and blonde you'll look better in less contrasting colors, like this. If you're darker skinned (black, spanish, whatever) then you can usually get away with more variations than a lighter skinned person would.

The second method of looking good with color coordination is matching colors that are found in your face and hair with the colors in your clothing. The most important color that people notice is your hair color, followed by your skin complexion, and thirdly your eye color. Matching parts of your dress with these colors is usually a safe way to go. Here is a good example of how to pull this off.

These two methods tend to work well, but obviously once you understand the basics you can experiment. I used only pictures of suits, but these principles can be extended to casual dress as well.

u/bicycleradical · 1 pointr/malefashionadvice

> Any idea the price range on Alan flusser?

I have no clue however he is an authority on how to choose clothing based on your individual characteristics. This book of his explains what he means:

https://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

> Also, any thoughts on balani custom clothiers?

I am not familiar with them.

u/BeatArmy99 · 1 pointr/malefashionadvice

Dressing the Man actually has a good section on how colors complement or hide your complexion. For some (myself, for example), bold and contrasting colors work out really well. Like you, I prefer blue suits (though I have several suits).

Depending on the OP's complexion, charcoal might be a better look but it's really just a preference thing, as you alluded to.

u/sueveed · 1 pointr/malefashionadvice

Flusser's books have long been respected.

u/strudel- · -1 pointsr/streetwear

Real fashion is timeless, just like when you see a man wearing a nice fitted suit in the 1950s he looks baller. Get a real book on fashion and learn it, like "Dressing The Man" https://www.amazon.com/Dressing-Man-Mastering-Permanent-Fashion/dp/0060191449

All this streetwear stuff is a gimmick. Gimmicks and fads are short lived, REAL fashion is timeless.