Reddit mentions of Finish Line Extreme Fluoro 100% DuPont Teflon Grease, 20g Syringe

To quote one of my recent comments about silencing stabilizers:

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I've spent tons of time researching and modding stabilizers and here's the method I use to make them as silent as possible:

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Let's Build: KBD75 + Zealios 65g (YouTube)
[stabilizer modding starts at 12:11]

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What you'll need:

• Genuine Cherry stabilizers
  
  • This is the most important component of a silent build. Don't waste your time with the cheap Chinese replicas.
    
  • Zeal stabilizers are fairly quiet out of the box but not everyone wants to spend that kind of money
    
    
• Finish Line Extreme Fluoro 100% DuPont Teflon Grease
  
  
  • Use this for plastic-on-plastic contact areas (i.e.: stabilizer housing inner walls)
    
    
• Permatex Dielectric Tune-Up Grease
  
  • Use this for metal-on-platic contact areas (i.e.: stabilizer wire tips and long side of bends)
    
  • Some use this for plastic-on-plastic but I hate how it gums and slows everything down; I use this grease mainly to fill up any gaps between the wire and plastic parts of the stabilizer - the primary source of stabilizer rattle.
    
    
• Fabric/cloth bandages
  
  • This serves two purposes:
    
    • Fills the gap between the stabilizer housing and the PCB to minimize wobble and thus, rattle (not a problem with screw-in stabs)
      
    • Cushions the bottoming out of stabilizer inserts. The inserts extend beyond the stabilizer housings when pushed all the way down and strike the surface of the PCB, leading to a loud "clack" and additional vibrations/movement that might cause the metal bits to rattle.
      
      
  • We use fabric instead of the water-resistant stuff (or tape) so that it absorbs and holds the dielectric grease.
    
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    This is what they should sound like:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMIC1ZQ8Grw

Here's a video of me cleaning and putting the whole thing back together. And, yes, it still works.

The two plastic body pieces were soaked for 24 hours before scrubbing it down. The lube used in the video for the plastic contact points as well as the trackball rollers is Finish Line Extreme Fluoro.

A big thanks to my friend /u/jfgorski for the Alphagrip iGrip! Read his opinion on the device right here, he's been using these things for years and has much more insight than I could ever provide. Also, thanks to /u/ripster55 for letting me post this here.

I've used this and could not tell the difference to CRK grease. No experience with anything Nano though.

Fluronated grease like this - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002L5UL92?cache=97a37de83a21196249043fbbf214fbd1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&qid=1410415440&sr=8-8#ref=mp_s_a_1_8

Mmm... you brush some krytox on those switch parts, then you rub some extreme fluoro on those stabilizers, you naughty typist.

It's not an awful idea. I use a Teflon lube that I think works better. But lithium grease is better than nothing.

I picked this up off a recommendation on this forum and it has worked for my pok3r: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If that is this, then no - don't use it for switches.

However this is a good lube for stabs where plastic and plastic touch.

here is a link to the lube i got https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For plastic on plastic ^

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AL8VD2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For plastic on metal ^

The Permatex isn't a bike lube, but it's fantastic.

Nice looking! What lube did you end up using on the stabs? I think I tried the lube I had lying around on my last build: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and not sure that was the right call...

They're excellent. I'm loving the MX reds. All the keys are boobs except maybe stabilizer keys, but using ripster's guide to lubing and this, the pinging and movement did seem to improve.

Just got one the other day! I found some grease on Amazon that works great if you run out/don't want to use the included stuff

sure...here you go. finish line comes in the syringe, which makes it easy to apply some to the stabilizer housing so you can brush it. taeha types does a good video using this grease combo.


finish line - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002L5UL92/
permatex - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AL8VD2/

Finish Line Extreme Flouro is what most people (including me) use. You can find it here on Amazon for around $12. Also, with the whole car part grease thing, I would suggest wiping that off. Some greases can eat away at plastics. /u/ripster55 did a whole lube guide and put it on the Wiki, I would suggest taking a look at it.

Definitely just need to lube your stabilizers. Apply some of this to both the key inserts and the wire clip and you should be squeak free.

I highly recommend Hako Clears.

The tactile bump is very clear and high, giving a topre-like feel and a nice meaty cushion at the bottom.

I upgraded from cherry browns and it's like night and day, especially after I lubed both the stems (with [finish line extreme flouro teflon grease](Finish Line Extreme Fluoro 100% DuPont Teflon Grease, 20g Syringe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0TYtDb4EZ5ED3)) and the springs (with [dupont silicone lubricant](DuPont Teflon Silicone Lubricant Squeeze Bottle, 4 Oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCVXUVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ESYtDbT85X5A5)).

The extra work is 100% recommended for the smoothest tactile action I've ever felt.

I use this PTFE teflon lubricant. It's one of the slipperiest substances on earth, Dupont usually costs 2 - 3 x as much as this stuff I use

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It comes in a handy syringe which makes it really easy to use small quantities. And youi get a lifetime supply.

I usually end up getting a TusqXL nut which is made from a teflon impregnated plastic. But I use this stuff otherwise.

OK lubed all the stabilizers. It's not a instant fix and it's slowly getting better as I type and work the lube around. Probably have about a hour of typing on it since the lube job. Flipped the Enter key back to its proper orientation and so far no squeak or stiffness and the rattling has diminished to almost non existent on all the long keys. The spacebar still has a little but not when hitting it in my natural typing location. Overall I'm pleased with the results. And here is what I used A lot bigger than I anticipated. I'll have enough to lube keyboards for the rest of my life since I only used a pencil tip size dot on each corner of the stab.

I'm not too savvy on the lube types. The one that I have is this one. I read the reviews and quite a few mention lubing KBs or lubing ABS plastic, etc.

Here's an image from geekhack in an old thread showing where to put the lube. The amount of lube you apply to each slider is very minimal, think like an apple seed, I usually just place it on the bottom corner and let the slider lube itself in use.

Lube makes the board quieter bar none. I used WASD keyboards lube the first time around, but I'm not too happy with it, so I'm going to use another lube next with the board, (this)[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002L5UL92/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1] one, once I get all the way fed up with the performance on the WASD lube. I have hope for it yet. But either way lubed and ringed is the way to go for a topre board, the thocks are the most satisfying thing ever.

I'm a bit newer to lubing mechanical switches and I reeeeaaallyyy just cant find any good info when it comes to what lube to use for mechanical switches. I plan on lubing both my stabilizers and switches, though I wanna know if the lube I'm planning on using for my stabilizers will work well for my switches aswell.

The lube in question

If this won't work well or will destroy my switches, which lube is recommendable for them?

Thanks for the response; I guess have no choice but to lube them since the man himself suggests to do so! I currently have this lube would it work as the thick lube?

So I'm thinking of building my own keyboard, although it won't really be the whole building experience because I won't be soldering. I want to get an XD75RE because it uses a hotswappable pcb and an ortholinear layout (which I really want to try out). I have a few questions:

Are there any other PCBs that have hotswappable sockets? (That isn't the GK64 because I don't like the non-standard stagger, ortho is fine but a completely new stagger that isn't used on any other keyboard.

Can I buy any 60% keyboard case for the XD75RE? I want to see if I can get a wooden case. The reason why I am asking this is because on the product page it says that it's possible to use any GH60 case with the pcb in using their shim conditions and I don't know what that means.

I want to have the layout that has the longer spacebar keys but this is the only plate that I found: https://kprepublic.com/collections/xd75re/products/stainless-steel-plate-for-xd75re-60-custom-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-plate-support-xd75re and I'm pretty sure that this is only for the only 1u layout. Is there another plate available that I haven't found yet?

Will this keycap set be fine for the XD75RE? https://novelkeys.xyz/products/blue-grey-xda-keycap-set If not, can you recommend a different keycap set for it?

What kind of cable does the XD75RE need? It doesn't specify it on the product page.

Do I need stabilizers if I find a plate for the longer spacebar layout? If so will a standard cherry stabilizer kit cover it? And is this lube fine for stabilizers? (I will probably buy it anyways for future builds) https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92

Is there anything I'm missing? I already know I need a case, plate, pcb, stabilizers (if necessary), lube for stabilizers, switches (I already have a bunch of loose switches), keycaps, and a cable? Sorry if this was really long, this is my first time buying custom parts and I don't want to mess it up.

> Are there any other PCBs that have hotswappable sockets? (That isn't the GK64 because I don't like the non-standard stagger, ortho is fine but a completely new stagger that isn't used on any other keyboard.

Bare pcbs? I know lfkeyboards has a few now. Pricey but unique.

> Can I buy any 60% keyboard case for the XD75RE? I want to see if I can get a wooden case. The reason why I am asking this is because on the product page it says that it's possible to use any GH60 case with the pcb in using their shim conditions and I don't know what that means.

Technically it has the mount points but getting it in there is a clusterfuck that results in either a wobbly board or having to shim and cut switches. IMO its way too much work and you are much better off going with a case designed for the board.

> I want to have the layout that has the longer spacebar keys but this is the only plate that I found: https://kprepublic.com/collections/xd75re/products/stainless-steel-plate-for-xd75re-60-custom-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-plate-support-xd75re and I'm pretty sure that this is only for the only 1u layout. Is there another plate available that I haven't found yet?

What do you mean longer spacebar? Like 6.25? Not going to happen with this grid layout. Some people use point of sale style keycaps as spacebars which is one 2u or 3u keycap that occupies multiple switches. It obviously makes it harder to press because you have resistance of multiple switches.

> Will this keycap set be fine for the XD75RE? https://novelkeys.xyz/products/blue-grey-xda-keycap-set If not, can you recommend a different keycap set for it?

If you are ok with legends not matching for modifiers its ok. Otherwise seek out ortho specific sets and build on them with something like a numpad or blanks.

> What kind of cable does the XD75RE need? It doesn't specify it on the product page.

mini usb

> Do I need stabilizers if I find a plate for the longer spacebar layout? If so will a standard cherry stabilizer kit cover it? And is this lube fine for stabilizers? (I will probably buy it anyways for future builds) https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92

XD75re doesnt use stabilizers.

> Is there anything I'm missing? I already know I need a case, plate, pcb, stabilizers (if necessary), lube for stabilizers, switches (I already have a bunch of loose switches), keycaps, and a cable? Sorry if this was really long, this is my first time buying custom parts and I don't want to mess it up.

Make sure the switches are all new and have never been previously soldered because that can harm the sockets.

At Amazon for $10.76.

http://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92

You don't HAVE to go to Japan to get exotic keyboard lubes. Buy American.

Frankly Permatex silicone or just about any brand silicone grease or Lithium White grease is fine FOR STABILIZERS, not switches.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/wx9bv/rmechanicalkeyboards_toolkit_item_4_there_is/

Just stuff like this https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?adgrpid=57563159993&dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAn8nuBRCzARIsAJcdIfNPOruNKKQn6_x2lnWydPZhQYU0iGAf611XHL5JNZzrI9QAV-ywZQQaAtgpEALw_wcB&hvadid=274872390383&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9017492&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4441170935943728956&hvtargid=kwd-302453330784&hydadcr=12192_10197807&keywords=keyboard+lube&qid=1574086449&sr=8-4 sorry I don’t know how to do blue text

I use this on my bike, so I had it lying around. It also happens to be recommended for stabilizers too:

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92

People also recommend Dielectric Grease, I haven't tried it personally but it's also a good option.

I use this stuff. Zero complaints. Not good for springs though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Jn9DCbV9TRYWD

Springs/linear switches

Stabs

Tactiles

(English isn't my first language so i'm sorry if there are some errors)
I just bough a poker 3 and the spacebar is squeaky as hell, so I was about to buy this, but I've read that it will crumble in a month or so and my only other option is this one, but I don't know if it can be used on stabilizers,so which one should i buy?

Would this work for lubing PCB mounted Cherry style stabs?

would this lube be fine for lubing cherry stabs? or finish line?

Is there anything to be careful of besides non-conductivity when looking for a grease? I saw this on a Ripster guide and I think I'm gonna order it: https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466142797&sr=8-1&keywords=Extreme+Fluoro+Grease

Permatex 22058 Dielectric Tune-Up Grease Tube was a suggestion I got from a YouTuber and it works really well so far. A bit expensive but you don't use a lot so lasts forever.

Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000AL8VD2/?coliid=I1N71VWMGGSOXK&colid=J58MB1DVXYQQ&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

US: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AL8VD2?pf_rd_p=2d1ab404-3b11-4c97-b3db-48081e145e35&pf_rd_r=EVNQKENT60XP5CXEPJJ7

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Also for plastic on plastic lube (the stems of the stabilizers, do not use inside of switches) this: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B002L5UL92/?coliid=I3VPHHQD2B8350&colid=J58MB1DVXYQQ&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

I just found that this lube is cheaper than the super lube, and pretty widely used. As for the stabilizers, this stuff seems pretty good.

You could use gun oil for that part. If you don't have anything like that around, use motor oil and see if it starts to cure your problem. If the motor oil works, order something like this https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Syringe/dp/B002L5UL92 and change it out when it arrives.

It is a good idea to apply some form of grease after removing and cleaning the key caps. I prefer a simple teflon grease, something like this.

I can't find Super Lube easily in my area, so I am wondering if this one might be used instead:

https://www.amazon.fr/Tri-Flow-TF23004-Clear-Synthetic-Grease/dp/B000C15MUU/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1518365758&sr=8-1&keywords=synthetic+grease

edit: Maybe this one would be good too? https://www.amazon.fr/Finish-Line-Extreme-Fluoro-Huile/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518366940&sr=8-1&keywords=finish+line+extreme

edit 2: Or this one? https://www.amazon.fr/Permatex-81150-Dielectric-Tune-Up-Grease/dp/B000AL2RI2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1518366744&sr=8-8&keywords=permatex

Argh. I am lost in sea of information about mech keyboards (aka, /r/mechanicalkeyboards Wiki ;)

Hi. Italian here!

• Recently i bought Finish Line Extreme Fluoro for stabs after a long research, is the fastest that you can get and is not bad.
  
  
• CandyKeys has SuperLube! Is also cheap for europe, i did a test, if you get 10 superlubes is 7 euro + 4 euro DHL shipping, 11 euro for Italy is pretty good imho
  
  
• Also SwitchTop has SuperLube, shipping is something like 8$ to Italy but if you need something other from the shop, may be worth it, otherwise CandyKeys is better!
  
  
• Krytox/Teflon formula from Pexon
  
  From what i saw, Krytox is usually better, not sure what is Pexon formula but the original Krytox is used to be better but is also pretty expensive, especially to Italy, I would say just go for that Finish Line on Amazon or SuperLube from CandyKeys and you will be fine :)
  
  Ciao!