Reddit mentions of GunVault SV500 - SpeedVault Handgun Safe

If your only goal is to keep it away from your kids... get this

This will not protect against a motivated burglar with a $5 pawn-shop hammer.

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I'm being informed that the above safe is garbage after a few months. Back to the drawing board.

Get something from LockSAF/LockSāF if you can find it for sale... Deviant Ollam (world-renowned expert on 21st century security and locks) suggests the PBS-001 model, but it appears to be out of stock everywhere.

The bottom line is, all of these safes are designed to keep honest people honest. A determined crook will be able to get your guns, no matter what you store them in.

Your best bet would be to get the best safe that you can afford, then figure out a way to make it invisible. Thieves won't try to break into your safe if they don't see it.

I have 2 handgun safes. One is this one. It's bolted to a heavy nightstand, 2 feet from my head while I sleep. There is only a gun in it while I'm asleep. Its whole job is to keep my gun out of my 2 year old daughter's hands while I sleep, yet give me pretty quick access if I need it.

My big safe is bolted into the concrete floor in my unfinished basement, hidden behind a false wall that I created from 2x4's and plywood. If you didn't know it was there, you'd never find it.

It's fine if you don't want one, so don't feel pushed by me...

However, it takes about 5-10 minutes to clean a gun, is easy after the first time, and most guns only need it every few hundred rounds. Ammo lasts forever and is safe (unless you store it in an oven), so you can buy in bulk when it's on sale and just store it.

If safe storage is a concern, you can buy one of these and stop kids while being able to get it fast if someone breaks in at night. Guns also hold their value well, so if you don't like it you can sell it for not much loss...

Again though, if you don't think you want to spend the money and time that's totally fine. If you don't think shooting is much fun, that's also fine but you might want to give it a try first ;)

Ikea furniture is not going to stop a kid.

Mount a small safe and most your problem will be solved.

My parents just put guns out of reach until I was old enough to be told not to touch them. If you expose your children to guns at an early age, they won't have any interest or curiosity to explore or play with them when you aren't around guiding them safely.

Also, congrats. My wife had our first child 2 weeks ago.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_m4kXCbTFTX5W7


Yeah it's a extra step and every second counts, but it's about as quick as opening a drawer. If it makes you feel any better, you can blame the piles of shit in people suits who let their kids blow their brains out. That's what I do.

> Safes are attached to where they are.

>Yeah. A safe is bolted to the floor.

This is not true. None of what you just said is true.

https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1527028963&sr=1-4&keywords=gun+safe

https://www.amazon.com/SentrySafe-Water-Extra-Combination-SFW123DSB/dp/B005P12F2K/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1527028811&sr=1-4&keywords=safe

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Fire-Resistant-Safe-Cubic/dp/B074KDHMKJ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1527028811&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=safe&psc=1

I use a GunVault SV500 SpeedVault Handgun Safe. I have it bolted onto the side of my bed, using the screws that it came with; it works great! Definitely check it out. I got the one that accepts a key or pin code. They also had a fingerprint version but I was nervous about relying on an accurate fingerprint scan. It opens very quickly and I practice opening it every night before going to bed which also lets me check the battery.

I have teen kids so all of mine must be locked up at night. I keep my nightstand gun in a Gun Vault SV-500 mounted to the back of my nightstand low enough to be out of sight when passing through our room. There is enough room inside to keep an extra mag or keep the flashlight mounted on the gun. It does make a bit of a clunk/thump noise when opening though.

EDIT:Spelling

You can get quick release safes and keep your pistol loaded in them. You press a few large lighted buttons OR bio recognition from your fingers and the safe opens up. The bio-release stuff isn't there yet though... if the batteries run low many will open for anyone.

They're a little expensive, but then, guns are as well; https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_1/142-9316893-3812044?ie=UTF8&qid=1518746356&sr=8-1&keywords=speed+vault

Maybe there's something similar for shotguns?

Problem is, with dedication and plenty of time kids can break into them. Key is slower, but might be safer with kids.

Then again, anything can be broken into given enough time.

It's called a gun safe. It's always the people that don't own guns safely and lawfully that try to argue for more gun control. You shouldn't have an unsecured weapon sitting around at any time in a school or workplace.

https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but my main pistol is loaded and locked in one of these on my nightstand. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_XjJHAbN36J0ES
Takes about 3 seconds to open...

Consider something like this for next to the bed. And just don't let your child know the combo. But seriously you don't want to unload and reload your gun that much, that's twice a day every day so far. It's not good for the ammo, and you run a higher risk of an ND loading and unloading that often than you do just storing it loaded

Get a safe. Put it in a hidden spot, like closet under pile of underwear. and secure it to wall stud using 3" screws.
Gunvault has some decent options


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000J4L2EK/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1450270228&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gunvault&dpPl=1&dpID=51VTYzo76aL&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-SpeedVault-SV500-gun-safe/dp/B006OGNLKA

I like ones like this: https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA

When your kid starts getting into his teens, it's a good idea to teach him some gun safety and how to respect the firearm.

I have one of these screwed to the wall between my bedside table and bed and it works very well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DEXCCb9V7Y6WK

If you get a handgun, grab one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496522696&sr=8-1&keywords=velocity+vault

Something like this GunVault safe could have saved that boy's life while still keeping the gun readily accessable to the parents:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_P1WACb7PTARH9

To the gunowners out there, keep your guns locked up. A kid's life is worth the <$120 investment.

I have this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA

I love it. The light is enough to put on my shoes by, it has a key backup, it has never failed me and I have not replaced the battery in the two years of constant usage.

To clarify, I was planning on getting a quick access safe like this one. Would I still need a holster in there? seems like an added barrier between me and my gun when I need it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OGNLKA?keywords=Gun%20safe&qid=1450136963&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2 works well for me.

You should consider a GunVault SV500 SpeedVault. It's relatively inexpensive and reliable. This is what I store my EDC in when I get home from work. I have 2 small children.

>This is excellent, thoughtful and rational response.

I'm glad I was able to find the right words. Plenty of the people who own guns are rational people who put a great deal of thought into their decisions, and don't take owning a deadly weapon lightly. The next time you hear someone making sweeping generalisations about gun-owners, I hope you'll remember that a great deal of us are actually rational individuals.

>I would personally add into the mix a cost benefit ratio - how can I keep the gun secure while having it accessible enough for there to be any point in having it. (The under-bed gun safe struck me as particularly brilliant.) I probably didn't have to say that aloud to you, but I wanted the observation next to what you said.

I think that depends, partially, on the person, and the situation. If you live by yourself, then as long as you lock your doors/windows, I don't think there is particular need to lock up your home defense gun. Same if you live with your significant other, and trust them to handle it responsibly. (If you think that your significant other would shoot you, or themselves, if they had access to a gun, then I think you have bigger issues to worry about than home defense.) In these cases, people might just buy a holster, and bolt it to the back of their nightstand, or just keep it in the nightstand drawer. Those planning to use a long-gun (rifle or shotgun) for home defense might just keep it under the bed.

If you live with roommates, or have children in the home, then there are a lot of quick-access safe options. Here is one example, which could be bolted to the back of the nightstand, or the side of a desk. There are many more quick access safes that can be bolted to a drawer. These safes aren't perfect, but they'll keep your kid from getting the gun.

I've actually seen some under-bed safes, and they are pretty cool. And don't forget, the quick-access safe only needs to be large enough to hold the gun (or guns, if you want to arm yourself and your wife/husband/life partner) you plan on using for home defense. You can always have a big, refrigerator sized safe elsewhere in the house where you keep your other guns.

It's definitely a good observation to make. Some people are in situations where a gun would need to be secured against people who need to be in the home. In those cases, you need to include the cost of adequately securing the gun in your cost-benefit analysis. Even so, as long as you only need to prevent children from accessing it, you're only looking at around $100 of additional cost.

And for that $400 (+ $100, if it needs to be secured) the gun does offer something that other security measures can't. A great lock, a solid door, and shatter-resistant glass can all slow down someone that means you harm, but a gun can actually stop them. But there are responsibilities that come with owning a gun, and so each person needs to assess whether or not they're responsible enough to benefit from owning one. There are some people that would be better off owning one, and some people that wouldn't.

I'm getting a SpeedVault. It's going to be bolted between my headboard and nightstand.

Concealment of the gun is 9/10 of the battle. Just don't put it somewhere obvious. We all refer to a "nightstand" gun but it's not sitting in a pedestal, under glass, on a nightstand.

Some people have a bedside holster that tucks into the mattress. Some people have a quick-release safe on their nightstand or in a drawer in the nightstand.

https://smile.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481139094&sr=8-1&keywords=bedside+gun+safe

https://smile.amazon.com/Gunvault-GV2000S-Multi-Vault-Standard/dp/B001XZZA6A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1481139094&sr=8-5&keywords=bedside+gun+safe

As to being inebriated, that's more of a self-control thing. Don't touch the gun when you're drunk. Period.

PEW PEWWW

Under CA law:
If you leave your gun laying around and a child obtains your firearm and uses it, you will be convicted of a crime. This does not apply if your child breaks into your safe (seriously... here's a link http://law.justia.com/codes/california/2013/code-pen/part-6/title-4/division-4/chapter-2/section-25105).

I don't think CA has given us any requirements (i.e. thickness of metal, type of lock, etc.) to what 'locked container' means.

I would go with something that is fully enclosed, has a combo lock (so you don't have to find a key at 3AM), that your child can't realistically get into, and can be bolted to something.

Here are a few that I like.

1. https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481427521&sr=8-2&keywords=velocityvault
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.com/SHOT-LOCK-1911-Handgun-Solo-Vault/dp/B009OGLG04/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1481428075&sr=8-8&keywords=shotlock
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.com/Fort-Knox-Original-Handgun-Pistol/dp/B00V6TDX4E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1481428101&sr=8-3&keywords=fort+knox
   
   There are reviews all over youtube for all of these models. Good luck!

I bought a cheap holster on amazon and attached it to the back of my headboard with some wood screws and washers, If you're concerned with burglars just throw a tshirt over it. Or you can think about getting something like this.

As I have smaller children, I needed something that was a bit more "safe" than just velcro'd to my nightstand (which I did before they arrived). I switched out to a GunVault SpeedVault SV500. Its small, I actually bolted it to the back of my nightstand. Opens easy, drops down for a quick grab of my pistol. It would keep most robbers from even knowing its there (who looks behind a nightstand in a smash-and-grab...they generally just toss the drawers), keeps it away from the kids but keeps it quite easy to access. Costco has them often for less than $100 (they are $123 on Amazon right now)

> I suppose I should practice though

Yes, yes you should. It's good that they're in a safe since you've said you've got kids. You could perhaps look into one of the bedside safes that use biometrics for easier access, like a SpeedVault or a Hornady RapidSafe.

There's another one I can't find at the moment, but it mounts to any vertical surface, and pops the handgun up with the grip facing your hand, ready-to-grab.

I also think outright bans aren't the answer. I think more restrictive gun control is definitely in order though. One thing that would definitely help is to require that firearms be kept locked up when not in use. A pistol adequately secured in the bedroom should be more than enough to make you feel secure without leaving yourself open to being robbed by someone and having your guns distributed to criminals. It will also reduce the rash of accidental child-related shootings. I would also like to see more comprehensive background checks, including more rigorous record keeping and better access to mental health and non-judicial disciplinary records. I also think a national firearm registry would be in order, as well as a removal of the ban on the CDC to study gun violence. All of these things will absolutely help us to better understand what can be done.

You are correct that in a country where there are more guns than people, a blanket ban is not going to work at all. However, there are steps that can be taken, that are being ignored because of the interests of the firearm industry. I support anything that decreases the number of firearms in our country, as I don't think your average person is responsible enough to handle them with the care they require. However I also recognize that there are millions of legal gun owners who do take proper care of their weapons, and as long as they hold up their end of the bargain, I don't think they need their guns stripped away.

My point is more toward the statistics behind guns as self defense. If you're looking at pure numbers, owning a gun is far more dangerous than not owning one. It increases your chance of being murdered, it can be stolen and redistributed into the criminal ecosystem, and it can be accessed by a child and end in tragedy. All of this for the chance to protect yourself from an incredibly unlikely scenario. However, if you're willing to take the steps to legally and safely keep the gun, then I suppose it's your choice to take the risk.

I have this one attached to my nightstand and it's perfect.

Anything below being a professional fighter and it's very unlikely that anyone will beat up someone larger then themselves, if a 6'4" breaks into my home, the odds are that I cannot defend myself in any form of hand-to-hand combat, I'd get my ass kicked regardless of how good a fighter I am for my weight.

I agree that firearms should be stored safely, but that doesn't make them impossible to get to, here is a safe that only takes pressing a finger against a scanner and can hold a pistol and 1-2 magazines.

Also, again, the whole ability to defend myself from gross abuses of power is a pretty neat perk. In an ideal world, sure, nobody would need a weapon, but we don't live in a perfect world, we live in the one that we have and have to live with that reality, not our fantasy.

This one isn't biometric, but it's for sale at my costco for ~49.95 About 1/2 of amazon's price.

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006OGNLKA/6346-20/ref=gb1h_img_m-3_3342_169dd9fc?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=1MJETZDN0ZAF5QN6NAYB&pf_rd_i=1265255011&pf_rd_p=2057143342

I always carry, even at home. I also have this in a closet:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OGNLKA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You might want to order it from here http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OGNLKA/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwpremiumgun-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B006OGNLKA
it is much cheaper here

I have always wanted to put a single gu safe between in the foot well between the drivers and passengers seats. Something like this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006OGNLKA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1524396204&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=single+gun+safe&dpPl=1&dpID=41z2DtBiD0L&ref=plSrch

i bought this to keep my night stand pistol in.

https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525817640&sr=8-2&keywords=gun+vault+mv500

This looks nice. I never used it before and it is kinda pricey but if you spend a lot of time at your desk, it could be useful to you.

I use a pistol safe, such as these:

Different mounting options can secure into the wall.


https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV500-SpeedVault-Handgun-Safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1478120253&sr=8-3&keywords=pistol+safe

https://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-GV2000S-Multi-Vault-Standard/dp/B001XZZA6A/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1478120253&sr=8-10&keywords=pistol+safe

There's ways around all alarm systems and doors. If they want in they'll get in. And there's tons of safes that are mounted under desks, on head boards, or easy and quick to grab places that you can open very quickly with finger print activation or a quick access code.

Gunvault SpeedVault SVB500 gun safe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGOHD0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UGHGzbEGK3PGJ

GunVault SV500 - SpeedVault Handgun Safe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_NHHGzbHA4NCMS

I think people get a silly hard-on for instant bedroom access. You aren't John Wick. There won't be an entire crew of baddies teleporting into your bedroom.

A quick-assess push button lockbox is fine, or those nifty SpeedVaults. I have a hard time believing you're going to sleepwalk through punching the combination and pulling your gun out. But IMO the gun should be locked even if you didn't sleepwalk.

It's for the range right now, but I would like to get a vault like this for my nightstand.

The Glock 17 is rather large to carry for me, but I have my permit and I plan to purchase something more concealable in the near future.

Here you go!

Amazon has that safe right now for 127, free shipping.

Gunvault Speedvault

V line top draw

Not as good as this

I have this micro safe. I like it cause the fast access, internal battery, holes on bottom for mounting and it comes with a half decent security tether. Of course some bolt cutters could probably cut it. But it is pretty nice.
http://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-MV500-STD-Microvault-Pistol-Safe/dp/B000TG9RCC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370903819&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+safe

But for your case I'd recommend
http://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-SpeedVault-SV500-gun-safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1370903880&sr=1-2

Fast access and you can bolt it to a stud. I just prefer the fast access for if I'm home during a burglary. There is not going to be a safe that is cheap and portable that is going to prevent a determined burglar So like other users said I'd secure the apartment better as well.

Check out one of these

Not to pricy, able to access quickly, and safe from the children.

Really the best thing after this is that every member of the family (yes even the children) should understand how to safely handle (or not handle a firearm).

http://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-SpeedVault-SV500-gun-safe/dp/B006OGNLKA/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_2_0/181-6631339-0285314

Mount this thing near or around your bed however you please.

Program to open when you press two buttons simultaneously. Keep it in the same spot and open it at least three times a day from however you would be opening it at night for a month.

If someone breaks in muscle memory tells you where it's at and where to put your fingers. Pull the loaded and chambered gun and defend yourself.

This option may be cheaper for you than reinforcing your door. It also solves the problem of keeping drunken roommates from offing themselves or others.

There's not a single incident in the article regarding a kid being killed by a parent thinking it was a burglary. Apparently shit doesn't happen "all the time".

Additionally, before you follow your strawman down that path, every one of the deaths in the article could have been prevented with a simple gun safe.

One of these, bolted to the headboard, and you have quick, secure access. Maybe stupid people just shouldn't have children.

With regards to Robert Downy Jr, yes, he should be thankful he's alive. Why the hell would someone get a pass from doing something so incredibly stupid, just because they're a celebrity? What a ridiculous question.

While I don't have kids, I still keep my pistol in one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SV-500-SpeedVault-Handgun/dp/B006OGNLKA

They also offer biometric ones if you're scared your kids may see the code.

I think the safes with buttons right now are much more reliable than biometric safes. This safe pictured is a Gunvault Speedvault SVB500, which is known to sometimes have problems at times. However, there is a manual button version, the standard SV500 which is the vault I have next to my bed every day and is much cheaper.

It's not the most secure, but if you want to keep a bedside gun out of reach of kids or friends who don't know how to properly handle firearms, it works great.

> Explain to me how a properly hidden and locked up gun is going to help you in a break in then.

with this bolted to the side of my nightstand.

>Explain how a gun is stored separate from its ammunition (the safest way to store it) and still useful in a break in.

My self defense gun isn't stored seperate from its ammunition, nor should it ever be. You seem to be under the impression that the gun is going to shoot someone of its own accord.

> If, on the other hand, it's kept in your dresser, loaded, then explain to me how it's completely safe from your kid or someone else finding it and accidentally firing it.

Again, kept in a quick access safe.

As an aside, I don't have kids yet, but everyone in my household (SIL, MIL, Wife) know how to handle and safely treat firearms. I grew up with them as a kid and was taught about them and gun safety from a very young age. Never once was I tempted to take my dad's gun out and start playing with it because it was hammered into me that guns are not toys.

>Now tell me how it's more probable to be useful in a break in than for an accident to happen. It just doesn't add up

Not with your presuppositions. I believe, however, that our house is much safer with a gun.

It seems to me that a lot of the people commenting in here have never been victim to a violent crime and live in well insulated neighborhoods. I can assure you, your opinion will change if you ever end up in a situation where you need to defend yourself or your family and find that you're unable to because you've bought into the liberal anti-gun jargon.