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Reddit reviews on I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to Be Destroyed By Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World

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We found 17 Reddit mentions of I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to Be Destroyed By Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World. Here are the top ones.

Updated with New Information and Additional Patches They’re on the shoulders of all military personnel: patches showing what a soldier’s unit does. But what if that’s top secret? “A glimpse of [the Pentagon’s] dark world through a revealing lens—patches—the kind worn on military uniforms. . . The book offers not only clues into the nature of the secret programs, but also a glimpse of zealous male bonding among the presumed elite of the military-industrial complex. The patches often feel li

Found 17 comments on I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to Be Destroyed By Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World:

u/Lesser0fTwoWeevils · 17 pointsr/EnoughTrumpSpam

If you're a patchhead (I think I just made that up, not sure), you should check out this book -


Fun fact, this patch had to be reworked to avoid a lawsuit with George Lucas -


u/CargoCulture · 7 pointsr/MilitaryPorn

If this interests you, read Trevor Paglen's I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to Be Destroyed By Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World.

A fascinating look into the world of the patches and emblems of the US' secret or unknown military forces.

u/Irish_317 · 6 pointsr/WarplanePorn

You'd think...there's a book of patches that covers a lot more than just the bird of prey.
Link to said book

Edit: words

u/13Grins · 4 pointsr/EliteDangerous

If you are interested in some crazy US Military patches check out the contents of "I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to Be Destroyed By Me: Emblems from the Pentagon's Black World"

Amazon has it here: http://www.amazon.com/Could-Tell-Then-Would-Destroyed/dp/193555414X

u/twuelfing · 3 pointsr/spacex

this book is great, lost my copy a while back.

a colleague on my visual effects and animation team at a big defense contractor designed lots of patches for missile defense tests and other programs. Typically everything present on the patch has some meaning, even if its not obvious. I always loved seeing what he would come up with.

[this was my favorite, for FTM-14 stellar scorpion. sorry i cant find any better images of it.]

u/spookyskywatcher · 2 pointsr/SpecialAccess

no, mainly these are replicas of Black project patches.

all of them come from a book called "I could tell you, but you would have to be destroyed by me"

u/EmoHaircut · 2 pointsr/conspiracy

The second link is actually a book. I just like to source a free pdf so everyone can read.


>In 2008 by the means of hundreds of Freedom of Information requests, Trevor Paglen obtained and analyzed forty mission patches.

u/midwestastronaut · 2 pointsr/DaystromInstitute

>How is that not ridiculous? I work for a top secret intelligence service. Here's my badge that proves it! LOL

Reality is unrealistic


u/Gutbucket1968 · 1 pointr/pics

Here is a good source for stories on some of these emblems.

u/locked4rae · 1 pointr/whatisthisthing

I'm using general symbology, the shape and colors. I've been interested and studied militaria since I was a kid. I've also served in the military and been assigned to facilities that are home to USASOC, AFSOC and JSOC units and some that house and assemble projects that show up on the congressional budget with nothing more than a two word title.

Not having anything to back up an explanation of a black project's or super secret unit's or facility 's insignia is sort of the point. They're kept vague on purpose so as to be confused with many other things, yet at the same time, have clear symbolism that have direct and explicit ties to what they represent.

Without a slogan or company name or personal rank, title or name, it points toward something that's unpublicized. Because of the selection of the red circle around the diamond shape, it tells me that a few things. Given that there is a near perfect representation of the Have Blue aircraft in the color blue inside a red circle, it's easy to deduce that the circle represents a radar display that shows nothing as the aircraft (Have Blue) is flying through the observed area. This flight path is shown by the blue vector line that bisects the aircraft. It is all represented on a desert tan background, because the aircraft was tested and flown out of Groom Lake. At the time of the project, military flight suits were sage green, so the desert tan is there to add emphasis for some reason.

Also, there can be a few different flight suit or uniform insignia used on black projects, because it confuses people and the insignia aren't required under the Geneva or Hague Conventions or the more modern UN conventions, rulings or guidelines for R&D projects that don't initiate hostilities.

I could be really wrong, I'm just positing one rather obvious theory. I'm just giving a fairly educated guess without having done any research.

If I was to seek further verification personally, I'd take a look at the works of Trevor Paglen. He has done a lot of work into researching the insignia of secret US defense projects and units. He has a book or two that have been published on secret US insignia and seems to be obsessed with them. He's a pretty good guy, look up his website and contact him, if he doesn't outright have an answer, he'll at least be very interested in researching it.


I've got relatives that have retired after a life working in defense and aerospace, as well as some that were USAF lifers that have worked on interesting bases from Eglin to Beale. I'll ask them and get back to you if they've any ideas.

u/dogisigod · -15 pointsr/news

The coolest thing of all this is probably its Mission Patch.

Apologies. Was not trying to promote sales just trying to encourage thoughts on mysterious and clandestine mission patches. Not sure how accurate these are, pulled from Google images.