Reddit mentions of Jarrow Formulas Methyl B12 1,000 mcg Lozenges, 100 ct

Well geepers, you gotta at least be gettin' your B12's.

Get these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FJW3ZY

And start takin' one a day until it's out, then you'll probably be back to normal levels. Afterwards find and take 250mcg ones every day, or 2500mcg ones once a week.


In addition, you should probably pick up some of these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LL7AXE
and these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XDPAU6 (Unless you get out in the sun often)

I understand. There are B12 lozenges that dissolve in the mouth. The B12 is absorbed mostly sublingual and not only in the intestines. Hope that helps.

https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methylcobalamin-B12-Supports/dp/B002FJW3ZY/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1520978944&sr=1-1&keywords=b12+1000+jarrow

YASSS.

What iLoveSev said in the other comment was spot-on.

I take this vitamin B12 since the methyl- form absorbs better. I take it every other day, and that's sufficient for me.

I also take a vegan vitamin D pill that I also get from amazon.

> You can always take vitamins and supplements but honestly why bother when you can just eat?

Because it causes suffering and death to sentient beings.

Animal agriculture has also a huge environmental negative impact.

Taking a 6 cent B12 pill each day seems to be a more than reasonable price to pay to reduce the suffering and environmental damage one causes.

Oh, 29 ng/mL is barely a deficiency so I wouldn't go any higher than 2000 IU per day at this point.

That ferritin is quite low so you might want to consider taking a separate iron supplement for a little while, just to get your stores into a good range. Iron absorption is enhanced by vitamin C so take your iron and eat your iron-rich foods with a source of vitamin C.


Elevated MCV is another potential symptom of B12 deficiency so that should resolve as your B12 status improves. Again, nearly all multis have B12 and iron but if you want to get a separate B12 source then I would try for something like Jarrow B12. And actually, Deva makes an iron supplement that already includes B12 so that could be something for you to consider.

It is a bit more expensive which is why many of the mass distributors use it instead.

Here is the cheapest one I found on Amazon. I have a bottle set to come in my S&S order: https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methylcobalamin-Supports-Lozenges/dp/B002FJW3ZY/

I dont know if you take any vitamins or supplements, but these b-12's are awesome! They help greatly with energy and stress relief. They're very inexpensive, sublingual so they just dissolve in your mouth for faster results, they are the superior form of b12-the methyl form so they don't have to be broken down by your body.

Also, a good quality vitamin c taken daily would also help keep the energy up and stress at bay. I would suggest a liquid form, because a lot of people don't realize that when we take vitamins in pill form, we barely absorb any of it. Vitamin C crystals or powder can be added to any drink and it gets right into the bloodstream for quick absorption.

Your caffeine intake will probably go down quite a bit by adding these two natural alternatives. Plus, you'll be nourishing your immune, nervous, and endocrine system rather than depleting it.

Hope this helps!

I am buying nerve health supplements because I am recovering from an acoustic neuroma - (and with vitamins many doctors think they do nothing - so keep that in mind) Nervestra Nerve Health Support Supplement, Alpha Lipoic Acid Vegetable Caps, Methylcobalamin (Methyl B12), 1000 mcg, Lozenges and Centrum but I am not taking anything for the ear for hearing health maintenance.

Anyone want to recommend any vitamin/herbal supplements for hearing heath maintenance?

While I am aware of medical literature that says vitamin supplements do nothing - it never made sense to me why vitamins absorbed in foods are good but via pills is bad (if the pills were of good quality and contained the ingredients they contained).

I recommend this or this.

take MethylB12 lozenges.
put under tongue and let dissolve but dont swallow until its all disolved.
it goes into blood stream instead of being absorbed in stomach

http://smile.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methylcobalamin-Supports-Lozenges/dp/B0013OQGO6
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FJW3ZY/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687562&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0013OQGO6&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1XG834CADTCATZPANBFC

I love marmite and eat it all the time! However it's still recommended to supplement b12 even if you eat fortified foods.

I take three of these pills a week. It works out very cheap - that one pot of pills will last 33 weeks for me.

Hey, that's awesome!

First and foremost, educate yourself about nutrition. Seriously, nobody wants to further affirm the stereotype of the malnourished vegan, especially as an athlete or with somewhat athletic ambitions.

For nutritional information I would recommend the following resources:

Vegan for Life: Everything You Need to Know to Be Healthy and Fit on a Plant-Based Diet: A book with a lot of nutritional information.

Veganhealth: Website that has all the information about nutrients that need attention in a vegan diet and more. (Especially read up about B12 and take a supplement! I take the one I linked, because it's super cheap and vegan.)

Learn about complete proteins.

 

There are websites aimed at vegan athletes like these:

Tips from a Vegan Athlete plus meal recommendations

Meal Plan, information and a real life vegan bodybuilder

Some possible problems and their solution


 

Other stuff:
List of vegan athletes: Great as an inspiration and for that moment when people will try to tell you that it's impossible to build muscle on a vegan diet.

I love tofu, which has a lot of (complete) protein and I especially like this recipe.

Eat tofu, seitan and for the cheapest option rice with beans, lentils, chickpeas etc. Also plant milks, bananas, spinach, oatmeal, nut butters...


 

As a new vegan, you might find some of the things useful I posted yesterday. Skip the text at the beginning and especially take a look at the things about nutrition. I like to recommend the accidentally vegan foods as well.

Good luck! If you have any questions feel free to ask :)

digging this particular one

http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methyl-B12-1000mcg-Lozenges/dp/B002FJW3ZY/ref=zg_bs_3774741_2

from description
"Methylcobalamin (Methyl B-12) is better absorbed and retained than other forms of B12 (e.g.; cyanocobalamin).* Methyl B-12 protects nerve tissue and brain cells; promotes better sleep and reduces toxic homocysteine to the essential amino acid methionine."

MetanX contains

L-methylfolate (Metafolin): 3 mg, http://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Optimized-l-methylfolate-Vegetarian/dp/B002R3G8BS/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1463606811&sr=8-6&keywords=Metafolin means $0.42/day


Pyridoxal 5'-phosphate: 35 mg, http://www.amazon.com/Solgar-Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate-Tablets-Specially-Coated/dp/B00014ELKK/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1463606920&sr=8-2&keywords=Pyridoxal+5%27-phosphate means $0.13/day (for 50mg)


Methylcobalamin: 2 mg, http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methylcobalamin-B12-Supports/dp/B002FJW3ZY/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1463607019&sr=8-3&keywords=Methylcobalamin means $0.12/day.

For a total of $0.67/pill, then it's a question of how many pills he took per day. You can get most of them cheaper. Does he take 10? That's $200/mo. Does he take 20? That's $400/mo. And so on. The company lists a going rate of $58/mo for uninsured pt's. I don't know if metafolin can be prescribed, but I'm assuming B6 and B12 can be for a vitamin deficiency. That would reduce cost even more.

The point I'm trying to make is that yes, it probably did have an effect on the patient's willingness to commit suicide. But pretending like he had a singular issue and that was which food groups his insurance covered is, in my opinion, an oversimplified version of the events.

> Ich hab mich erstmal über alle möglichen Nährstoffe informiert, über die ich sonst noch nie nachdenken musste,

Relativ überflüssig, man muss nur Vitamin B12 supplementieren, gibts als Tabletten die wie PEZ schmecken nur in nicht so hart. Muss man allerdings frühstens nach mehreren Monaten oder ggf. Jahren nehmen, der Körper hat einen großen Restspeicher.

Alles andere nimmt man ganz genauso auf, wahrscheinlich sogar mehr als sonst, weil man sich mehr mit dem was man isst auseinandersetzt und tendenziell mehr Gemüse isst.

Hier als Video von Vegan ist ungesund

>aber ich habe auch noch nie einen Veganer getroffen, der nicht dünn und blass war.

http://www.greatveganathletes.com/

B12 is not a huge concern. Your body creates reserves of it that can last longer than a year. So even if you aren't getting it daily you won't be deficient as long as you get it sometimes. Although some people have a rare disease where you need regular injections, but you would know if you had this problem, it's unrelated to diet. The best type of b12 is methyl b12: http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Methyl-B12-1000mcg-Lozenges/dp/B002FJW3ZY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1374156839&sr=8-2&keywords=methyl+b12 it's what is most widely available in nature. The most popular type though is artificially produced from bacteria ( Cyanocobalamin). This type converts just fine into a form your body can use though. Some like to claim that it isn't good enough, but that claim is not strongly supported by evidence. However methyl b12 is definitely more bioavailable so I use it to supplement maybe twice a week plus I eat fortified tofu, tempeh and soy milk and nutritional yeast. Many other things are fortified with it as well these days, so it may never be a concern. Although be careful with just using nutritional yeast, the b vitamins break down if it is stored too long or cooked too long at a high temperature. Also be careful if you tend to avoid processed foods completely, you may need to supplement. Is extremely safe to supplement b12 even in high doses so don't fear. Some labels will say 1000x RDA and that's totally fine for b12 (not for all vitamins though), you just pass the excess. Also, don't get too caught up in the idea of things being "natural". Natural, whatever that means in the days of cars planes high tech farms computers and biotech, does not necessarily mean safe or healthy. We've come a long way as a species to save ourselves from the great harms of nature. To begin with, a vegetarian diet is not that natural, it's just ethical and efficient and in many ways healthy (although you should not be vegetarian if your only motive is optimal health). Agriculture at the level required to support an all veg diet is a relatively recent occurrence in human evolution. Other things to be aware of: vegetarians often have trouble getting iron, zinc, vit d, omega 3s, and calcium. So try to incorporate more foods with these into your diet if you don't choose to supplement.