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Edit: I just read the rest of what you said and misunderstood. There are podcasts, ask about them in the Latin sub.
Check out /r/Latin.
Also, buy this: Lingua Latina per se Illustrata
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata and Wheelock's Latin are the go to books for learning.
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata is completely in Latin and makes you learn by reading.
Wheelock's is learning by studying grammar.
What I recommend is looking up "Learn Latin" on Youtube to study the basics of pronunciation and learning what you can from there. If you enjoy it, buy one of those books to dive deeper into the subject.
I wholeheartedly recommend this book and this book.
Have no fear of learning more Latin than you need. After all, if you want to read the Vulgate, you'll probably also want to read papal encyclicals, conciliar documents, untranslated patristic texts, etc., not to mention secular authors like Cicero and Vergil. I recommend studying by immersion with Hans Ørberg's reader Lingua Latina per se Illustrata. Do all the exercises. Build up to reading unadapted excerpts from classical authors in part II. Then approach the Vulgate.
Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, Pars I: Familia Romana is quite good. It teaches Latin completely in Latin. There are online exercises for this at http://wyomingcatholic.net/WCCLatin.htm
I advice you to get a copy of Hans Ørberg's "Lingva Latina - Familia Romana". It has an ascending difficulty level, and you can get used to read Latin again with the easier chapters and learn more with the later and thus harder chapters. You can get it here: http://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410539390&sr=8-1&keywords=lingua+latina
Good luck in learning more Latin!
Vale,
Tor
As others have said, speak it. Also listen to easy Latin. Evan Millner's material comes to mind. This will help you start thinking in Latin and understanding it on its own terms without using English as an intermediary.
But another important thing to do is this: read easy Latin and read tons of it. This also will help you start understanding Latin on its own terms. If you've had Latin in school, chances are good that you were usually reading Latin that was far too difficult for you, and this is a major reason why it's hard to understand without considerable trouble. Read Lingua Latina: Familia Romana. Read the easier parts of the Vulgate (Genesis, John, etc.). Go through Claude Pavur's elementary readers. Gradually start increasing the difficulty of your reading material.
If you just want to learn it to read it, there's no better combination than Wheelock's Latin and Hans Orberg's Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata. Wheelock gives you the grammar, and reading Orberg will improve your reading speed and comprehension by leaps and bounds.
Find a copy of Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata. Libraries sometimes have copies, or you might be able to find a cheap, used copy. Even better if you can get the audio with it. It is a good, intuitive way to introduce you to the language, and makes learning basic declensions a bit more fun, because you are following along with a story, instead of just rote memorizing tables.
For my high school we had to take 3 years of Latin. We used Memrise for Latin vocabulary and the book Lingua Latina. I reccomend this book because it is subtly super Catholic and there are many books that help understand. It goes over all necessary Latin grammar which combined with Memrise helped me a lot to learn Latin.
https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205
https://www.memrise.com/course/252632/lingua-latina-pars-i-familia-romana/
You want books to learn Latin and Greek, but you don't want books that are written for the purpose of teaching Latin and Greek?
I'm going to throw a textbook at you anyway, but you might like it:
Familia Romana: https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205
Get the Exercitia too: https://www.amazon.com/Exercitia-Latina-Exercises-Familia-Romana/dp/1585102121
Ditch that garbage app and dive into the easy, comfortable, inexpensive old-world wholesomeness that is the Lingua Latina series.
The best part is Hans Ørberg will never delete your account because you don't have one
There's a book called Reading Medieval Latin by Keith Sidwell in which he goes into the cultural & historical context of that particular variation of Latin. However it starts at an intermediate level & does assume you already know basic Latin.
So I suggest to get up to the level expected in this book, read it's predecessor Reading Latin by Keith Sidwell or read Hans Ørberg's Lingua Latina Per Se Illvstrata
If you want to learn the language most on here will probably reccomend Lingua Latina per se Illustrata. There's a lot of other options as well and I'm sure others will recommend them. Personally, I went the more traditional route (Wheelock's and Writing Latin, then working through a reader and finally just going through Virgil, Livy, etc.) and am currently going through LLPSI for the first time myself, so I can't really preach it's benefits yet haha.
For the Mantras why don't you post them, if you can, and someone might help you out!
One interesting textbook is Lingua Latina per se illustrata, which is designed to introduce Latin to a novice learner solely by immersion. I didn't find it myself until well after I learned Latin, but from what I could tell, it would be a good way to pick up the basics
Hi! It's great that you want to learn Latin yourself - I was in a similar position not long ago, and can share my experience. Firstly, it's not going to be very easy, but it will be a lot of fun - learning Latin will teach you a lot about linguistics, history, and even English.
It seems to be a consensus at /r/latin that Wheelock's, while being a good textbook, teaches to translate, not to read. It focuses on rote memorization of grammar. Lingua Latina, on the other hand, focuses on reading comprehension and is considered by /r/latin users to be a superior learning method. It's based on the natural method: it is written completely in Latin, beginning with very simple phrases which speaker of any European language can understand, and slowly progresses further. To give you an idea, its first sentence is "Rōma in Italiā est". You can understand it easily, and you've already learned 4 words!
While Lingua Latina is a great textbook, I would advise getting some supplements to augment your studying process. All of them can be bought on amazon, or acquired by other means if you wish to cut your costs. Excercitia Latina, which follow Lingua Latina chapter by chapter, will give you enough practice to get a firm grip on each chapter's material. I would recommend not just filling the gaps in, but writing whole exercises out in a separate notebook - making the mechanical memory help you memorize words and grammatical structures. Latine Disco and Neumann's companion are useful companions, which will help you understand grammar introduced in each chapter of Lingua Latina (you only need one of them).
Finally, memorizing words is necessary with any language, and Latin is no exception. Some students find Lingua Latina's method to be sufficient for spaced repetition of new words, but it wasn't enough for me. I used anki, a spaced repetition software based on flashcards, to study words. There is a Lingua Latina deck available for anki, divided into chapters: thus you can easily add words into your flashcard pool after completing every LL chapter.
I hope this helps! If you'll have any questions on the material, redditors on /r/latin are very nice and are always willing to help.
Good luck with your studies!
Valē, amīce!
Familia Romana by Hans Ørberg is the one that I see recommended the most often around here. It takes a more immersive approach to learning Latin where you jump right in and start reading rather than focusing on grammar tables right off the bat. The Exercitia and Latine Disco books go with it.
you should really check out this book
Neither of these are online, but they're both good for independent study:
Any of the basic primers (with the exception of the Oxford Latin Course) are probably fine, though Wheelock's is the time-tested standard for many Classics programs. However, once you get beyond the first few units, I would warmly recommend something like the Lingua Latina series, which not only is written entirely in Latin (with a graded difficulty curve as you advance), but also gives a nice in-situ introduction to Roman family life, civic institutions, etc.
Really, the major problem for any Latin student—or student of any language, really—is gaining proficiency in the language via an inventory of vocabulary, grammatical structures, idioms, etc. With a purely textual language like Latin, one can't easily use daily conversation (or 'immersion' in the current pedagogical lingo) as a means of reinforcement, and thus reading great quantities of text is the only way to improve one's comprehension. Since the bulk of extant Latin literature is 'high' literature, attempting to read even so-called 'easy' authors such as Caesar can be incredibly frustrating to a novice, as even these authors were writing in a style that was the result of years of intensive rhetorical schooling. The canned readings in Wheelock's are okay, but none are longer than a few pages, at the most. The Lingua Latina books can help supplement one's reading, particularly with the graded difficulty approach that they are designed around.
A final bit of advice: memorize everything. You will never, never achieve any degree of proficiency with the language if you don't work at it; I recommend (and regularly use) a flashcard program (Anki in my case) for vocab, forms, names, whatever. You simply can't half-ass this aspect. Most student's trouble when learning Latin is the result of imperfectly knowing a) the vocab, and b) grammatical endings, constructions, etc. Despite its reputation and popular sentiment to the contrary, Latin is not any 'harder' or more complex than English or whatever other language one might be native to. Remember that at one time all manner of people learned and spoke Latin: slaves, foreigners, statesman, plebs, etc. You can do it, but you have to put in the time. Be patient with it, work at it, and you will be rewarded. Good luck!
To ease into it I would suggest Lingua Latina, it's a book designed to teach through totally immersion. You'll probably find the first few chapters ridiculously easy, but further on will probably be about your previous level. There are multiple of books with multiple levels of reading capabilities. Here's a link to it https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/1585104205/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523538313&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lingua+latina&dpPl=1&dpID=41i2-gtD%2BlL&ref=plSrch.
I'm taking a Latin III this year and this is our sorta finale for the Latin program.
The other question is very tricky.
Hope I helped!
In college I used Keller and Russel's Learn to Read Latin and didn't have any luck with it.
A few years later I picked up Lingua Latina, (and its supporting materials), and did a LOT better. The latter uses an immersion based method where you try to figure out what's going on based on cognates. Over time you pick up conjugation and declension pretty naturally instead of trying to memorize tables.
There are supporting materials with classical vs ecclesiastical pronunciation which you might find helpful as well.
Edit: Check out the Amazon preview I linked, it should give you a good idea of what to expect.
Yes basically writing a text in German without any explanatory notes. It just came to my mind since your approach is so heavy on cognates so students should be able to understand a text made up of those cognates and half cognates.
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You can preview some pages of the book on Amazon, maybe it will help clarify what I mean: Amazon link
Sounds like you're interested in classical Latin. Starting there is a good idea, as church Latin tends to be simpler than classical Latin, meaning if you can read classical Latin, you'll have no trouble reading church Latin. I would recommend Lingua Latina. It is 100% in Latin, but starts off very simply and slowly introduces grammar and new words, so that by the time you finish the book you can read in Latin reasonably fluently. If you have experience in learning languages or speak another Romance language, you may be able to get by with just this book, but if not a traditonal grammar like Wheelock's Latin would be a good supplement. The benefit of Lingua Latina is that it teaches you to read in Latin, not painfully translate it. If you're goal is to be able to read texts for pleasure, this is a must.
Lingua latina per se illustrata.
Learn using the natural method.
If you're trying to find some sort of "natural method" to learning Latin I reccommend Lingua Latina. The audio recordings can also be helpful if you decide to get them but they aren't necessary.
Lingua Latina: Familia Romana is one of my favorite books.
As a Latin student, I'm obviously biased, but you should choose Latin. Latin is a really fun language, and it's really not that difficult. Since you've studied Russian, you already have a background in declined languages, and your Spanish will help with the vocab. English will help too, regardless of the fact that it's a Germanic language.
If you pick Latin, look into Wheelock's Latin. I use this book, and I think it does a really good job of explaining everything. It's also loaded with examples and practice work, and has a nice answer key in the back if you get stuck. Since it's a course "based on ancient authors," many of the passages are excerpts or adaptations from authors like Cicero or Caesar. It teaches you about Roman history and culture in addition to the language, which I think is nice.
I've also heard plenty of good things about Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, but I haven't used it very extensively.
There's also the Perseus Latin Word Study Tool, which is really helpful. They also have a Greek version, if you decide to go with Greek.
Wiktionary can be useful as well, as it gives full declensions or conjugations for tons of Latin words.
If you progress to a high enough level, you can read the news and tons of ancient authors in Latin.
Also, if you study Latin, we can be language twins. :P
Acquiring a language takes time. There is no shortcut. Reading the book once or just a few times is NOT enough. A single book like [Familia Romana] (https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-per-Illustrata-Pars/dp/1585104205) would normally take 2-3 years (300-400 hours of classes, homework etc) in a classroom setting. So, if you do the math, you should spend about 10 hours on each chapter! If you intend to spend all that time 'just reading' that would boil down to reading each chapter 20-60 times depending on your reading speed. You'd probably have acquired the Latin by then, yes. I would however prefer a bit more variation.
E.g. read aloud, record and play back. Read Colloquia Personarum, recording one part with pauses and then speak the other part, then switch roles. Also read Fabellae Latinae. They all cover the same ground as the main book. Do the Exercitia Latina and note that each exercise is in fact a summary of (part of) the chapter, which you could just re-read as such... now combine 2 of those to create a larger overall summary... then, using these as models, try to write a summary by yourself. Keep re-reading everything. As long as you are working with the chapter's text for 10 hours...
I just do it for fun, I've got no real Latin qualifications. I've learned a lot from hanging around this subreddit and from the Lingua Latina per se Illustrata books, the Perseus Digital Library, and Wiktionary.
Lingua Latina. (Also see the reviews for the edition without the illustrations.)
Thanks. Did you mean Hans Orberg (this one http://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205)?
To learn Latin, I always suggest Wheelock--I think the fourth edition was new when I studied Latin, so I can't swear by the 7th edition, but it probably hasn't changed too much. Others frequently advocate for LLPSI because it's closer to immersion (the way most modern languages are taught) than grammar-first (Wheelock's and my preferred method). Obviously you'd need more than just the first volume of LLPSI, but that's where you'd start.
As for Latin resources, the Latin Library has a ton of free texts, including the Latin Fathers. At least some of them are OCR scans, though, so be aware that there may be typos here and there.
For Ancient Greek... I learned with Groton, which tries to be the Wheelock of Greek, but doesn't do as well. Every time someone asks this on r/AncientGreek, there's never a consensus on the best textbook.
Once you understand how the language works, you can start reading texts without translation, as long as you have a dictionary handy. My recommendation is that you always try to figure out each word yourself before turning to other resources, but if you get really stuck, you can use parsers (Whitaker's Words for just Latin, Perseus has parsers for both). Perseus also has a lot of texts available, both original language and public domain translations, and the code for their database is open-source. Even if you don't use their parsers, Perseus has Liddell & Scott (the Liddell-Scott-Jones "Great Scott"/"LSJ" and the "Middle Liddell" sizes), Slater, and Autenrieth dictionaries for Greek and the Lewis & Short (as well as its abbreviated Elementary Lewis) dictionary for Latin.
If you're flush with cash, the Loeb Classical Library has, I would like to say, almost everything in Greek and Latin side-by-side with translations. It's an easy way to read and study the classics without first learning the languages (or while you learn the languages). If you have access to an academic library, you can usually find/access them without having to buy them. Now that I work far from academia, I just have to lament sadly that I can't afford it. (Before I get too old, maybe I'll buy an individual license for the digital version.)
As for Church Fathers in general, like I mentioned above, many Latin Fathers are available for free, and most (not quite all, I don't think) Church Fathers are available for free in translation. The Greek texts are harder to come by, mostly because they aren't collected in one quick place that I'm aware of (except perhaps sites like Perseus).
Trying to find free resources can be a challenge because university presses are behind most publications of classical texts, which means (1) they get to copyright the texts because of their translation, critical apparatus, or editing, and (2) those copyrights last a long time when assigned to an institution instead of a person, especially when they keep refreshing them with new "editions" that barely change.
If you speak a Western European language, Latin will be probably be far more familiar to you in terms of vocabulary, word roots, and even common phrases. It's also a lot easier to "see" it in daily life, since it uses the same alphabet and is the root of every Romance language. Grammatically Greek and Latin have a lot in common, so if you become proficient in Latin then Greek grammar will be - I won't lie and say easy, but at least a lot more manageable.
In addition, there's just so much written in Latin since it was/is such a prestigious language in the West. I read that about 75% of Latin literature was written after 500 AD, and that includes medieval drinking songs, Issac Newton's physics, and every university motto everywhere ever. You'll have a lot to practice with!
EDIT: I hear lots of good things about Lingua Latina Per Se Illustra, although I use an old copy of Wheelock's because it has lots of grammar and resources and I'm a masochist. Maybe join us at r/latin/ or r/languagelearning/
Most Latin learners will recommend you Lingua Latina per se Illustrata with a latin dictionary, online or not. Wikipedia's fine too. It's one of the best ways out there to learn it to a comfortable level, because it gives you true immersion in the language. There's no English past the cover. And then you can practice on random texts you find on the internet, the book should give you a nice idea of Latin grammar and common words, nice enough to keep going on your own without help but a dictionary.
Would this be everything? Or should I some other things?
Are you familiar with Lingua Latina: Familia Romana? it works really well for solo study, and it gets you in the habit of reading Latin directly (not translating it).
https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205
I started learning Latin once. I didn't make it too far, but I really would love to get back into it. I was using this book: Lingua Latina. It's actually really neat, it uses no translations for anything, and you still learn a lot (although I might be biased, since I've studied other languages and knew what to expect.) But yeah, verb conjugations and noun declensions = <3
Absolutely! In fact, I started reading one called Lingua Latina: Familia Romana. It did the same thing but for Latin. It starts out with a map and says where each country is and after that it starts introducing a Roman family who speaks Latin. Very cool, I'd love to see one for another language.
That's true I guess, I could just buy one from the same publishers/stores that colleges get them from, if I can actually find them.
Also, I think that /u/kavaler_d took care of that for me, mostly. According to the seller of Lungua Latina, they're the most popular Latin textbook for universities (although, I bet some others also claim that...).
Ooooh, if you're still interested, over at /r/Latin we're doing a weekly study of Lingua Latina.
Here is this week's thread. We're only up to week 3 but the first chapters are really easy to handle, so you could catch up.
Lol, I promise I never spent any nights weeping into my coursebook! The main online resource I use is the very excellent Vicarius interface for Whitaker's Words dictionary, which you can find here: http://vicarius.thomasleen.com
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I like reading so I used a lot of supplementary readers, and I would recommend doing that in addition to whatever your main textbook is. I have particularly enjoyed the LLPSI series, the first book of which is here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Familia-Romana-Lingua-Latina-HansH/dp/1585104205/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549409155&sr=8-1&keywords=familia+romana
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There are also some free online readers: search for Ritchie's Fabulae Faciles and Puer Romanus. Geoffrey Steadman has an annotated version of Fabulae Faciles here: https://geoffreysteadman.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/ritchie-10mar17.pdf (his other annotated texts are good too!)
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And when you want something more advanced, there's an absolute shitload of classical texts with facing-page translations available here: https://ryanfb.github.io/loebolus/
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Have fun!
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You absolutely need Pars I: Familia Romana.
If you are an autodidact, you also need the Teachers' Materials & Answer Keys.
I would strongly suggest you get the Companion to Familia Romana, since it makes explicit all the inductive teaching from Familia Romana. If you let it become a crutch, then the course becomes "Just like Wheelock's, but with extra reading material." However, it's invaluable if you're banging your head against the wall, unable to figure out what something means or why something is done a certain way.
You should also get Fabellae Latinae for extra reading material, since it's a free download.
Since the whole point of the course is "lots of reading that teaches you inductively," I'd also get the Colloquia Personarum, which is extra reading material (like Fabellae Latinae) tied to each of the chapters in Familia Romana.
I did not get the extra book of exercises. Following the advice of Justin Slocum Bailey, I'm spending that time reading more.
Whatever you do, don't use Wheelock.
If you'd like a class, do this: http://www.paideiainstitute.org/intensive_latin_and_greek_summer_2016
If you'd just like a book, use this:
https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=familia%20romana&amp;qid=1458311671&amp;ref_=sr_1_1&amp;sr=8-1