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u/jgworks ยท 2 pointsr/MTB

Ok so it sounds like there are a lot of questions and the best way to answer those is in a video where I can demonstrate with examples. Here are the questions so far which I will address in my next video, feel free to ad to this list:

  1. Why is it single sided, does it have to be single sided and are there any downsides to it being single sided?
  2. Why explore alternative trail?
  3. How does the Funny Fork enable testing of multiple wheel paths and suspension configurations, and how will that enable exploration of trail?
  4. How is braking force handled and in what ways do linkage suspension systems offer different handling characteristics in this area?

    Before I dive into those questions I want to cover some history. Linkage forks have been in existence long before telescopic mechanisms became dominant. Designs started as simple leading link or trailing link mechanism but quickly advanced including dual links, girder forks, semi telescopic mechanisms, with the linkage system ultimately culminating(imo) in the Valentino Ribi designed straight line linkage wheel path and other advancements of previous designs(bmw duolever, telelever, etc..). Some masters in this field include Tony Faole, who wrote the book Motorcycle Handling and Chassis Dynamics, Valentino Ribbi, Norman Hassock. These individuals have left a legacy of data and information but not enough to satisfy my curiosity. Tony Faole spent a lot of time testing and proving zero or no trail road suspension for the purposes of understanding what kept a bike upright. Long after his experiments Jim Papadopoulos and his research team set about to quantify what kept a bike upright and the functions which went into steering and the self centering effects of a bike.
    These ideas were what led to this exploration. Bikes have changed, tire volumes have increased, slip angles have changed, data collection has improved, and my curiosity is still here, so the Funny Fork was created. My philosophy for approaching the project as an Experimental Prototype was inspired by my time building and setting up race cars. The process of building and setting up the suspension and handling of a race car for a driver often involves working with the abilities of the pilot and their capacity to use the available equipment. Sometimes this meant setups or handling characteristics which, others drivers, on any given day, may say were slower, but on this day with that pilot this setup and those conditions, we won. Is there a benefit to having varying degrees of setup within a suspension package, setups which allow for changes in geometry previously fixed by the nature of a technically superior package(telescopic fork)? That is what we want to know and better understand.

    Thanks a ton for all the feedback and responses, i'm excited for the future and hope something is learned in this process. More videos to come!