Reddit mentions of Philips L1/28 Fidelio Over-Ear Headphones with Remote and Mic (Discontinued by Manufacturer)

Oh god, I'm soooo sorry...I mean the L1. http://www.amazon.com/Philips-L1-28-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B006RUIWC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408021713&sr=8-1&keywords=Phillips+Fidelio+l2

Just FYI, these are also available on Amazon for $118. I don't know how much you care but with free shipping, it's basically the same price.

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-L1-28-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B006RUIWC0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425343569&sr=8-1&keywords=Philips+Fidelio+L1

I've actually been researching this as well. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the Sony MA900 or the Phillips Fidelio L1. From what I've read online you can't go wrong with either one. Pretty pricey tho.

> ... how do you get the best possible quality out of a set of PC headphones for gaming and streaming services like Netflix? Say you had a budget of $200. Do you spend it all on headphones? Is a sound card important here? Is a headphone amp? I'm interested in how each of these work with a PC specifically.

That's a good question. For under $200 for an entire setup you're likely not going to need a separate amp. Most headphones in this price range will be low impedance, so they won't need much power anyway. Depending on your PC you might have a decent onboard DAC on your motherboard. If you built your PC and the motherboard cost over $50 your sound should be quite good, so I wouldn't recommend eating into the budget of your headphones. However, if you feel like you get any background noise from your headphone ports or want something with slightly better sound, you could get a fairly cheap DAC/amp like this one. (Keep in mind this will take away from the budget of your headphones). If you do buy a DAC, make sure it has some kind of built in headphone amp or that it doesn't require extra amplification.

For $200 this is what I would recommend buying for movies/tv, music and gaming:

• Option 1: 200 bucks on a single pair of headphones; that's it. If you feel like your motherboard has decent sound, then put all of the money into what will make the biggest difference; the cans on your ears. Spend as much as you can on a good pair that fits your tastes in sound characteristics. For a closed headphone you have lots of choices, too many to list or recommend. For open cans the AKG Q701 is fantastic for detail and sound stage and is under $200 currently.
  
  
• Option 2: If you don't like the quality of sound coming from your motherboard (static, noise or low dynamic range) you could spend around $50-$100 on a fairly good DAC/amp and then spend $150-$100 on a quality pair of headphones. If you want closed cans, I would look at the ATH-M50 series or Sennheiser HD-380s which are on a fantastic sale. (I own the 380s, they are phenomenal for that price). If you want open headphones the Fidelio L1s are crazy cheap right now.
  
  Personally, I wouldn't buy an internal PCI sound card for a few reasons. For one, they are in close proximity to high voltage/amperage components which can introduce EMI and noise into the signal. Also many internal sound cards aren't as good for the money as an external DAC/amp and they often have really iffy driver support and need updates. External setups usually don't need to be touched and are pretty much universally compatible since it's just USB or optically connected. The biggest benefit of an external DAC/amp is the portability and ability to easily use it on another computer, laptop, phone or other device.

For a lower priced option you could look at the Philips Fidelio L1. I have the successor the L2 which improves upon a few things but the overall sound signature is similar (slightly v-shaped with a broad rise in the mid bass and a somewhat elevated treble).

It is semi-open which means it has minimal external leakage (there is still some if you crank them loud) but can still maintain a decent sound stage. They are also pretty sensitive so an amp is not necessary.

I have had a look around and I have found 2 pairs that I am leaning towards getting:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-L1-28-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B006RUIWC0

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-982-000079-6000-Headphones-Discontinued/dp/B0094S36RI

The L1's base price is so much higher, so is it worth getting them? I'm guessing they are a better quality pair of headphones for my price range (<150$) than the UE 6000's.

Need some help picking as there was not much information on the L1's on this subreddit. Any pros or cons about the two?

Will mostly be using this in my car and just at home.

Sorry if this is worded or set out terribly in a bit of a rush, any input will be helpful.


Thanks!

These ones correct? I'll try to research these headphones and get some input from other users (if I can). Also, I noticed the Philips have a microphone. Got any idea on their quality?