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I highly recommend checking out Japanese sunscreens. They are way more cosmetically elegant than sunscreen in the US. These two are my favorite: Biore Aqua Rich and Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel

new purchase: Hada labo UV Creamy Gel spf 50 ++++. amazon link. makeup alley link.

great first impression! i was looking for a sunscreen with high UVA protection, with great texture and finish, that wouldn't break me out or further dry my skin, that wouldn't break the bank and also wouldn't take 2 months to get here. ideally the sunscreen would also have some extras to it, like hyaluronic acid or vitamin c (this one doesn't have vit. c though). that's sort of asking for a lot haha.

this so far seems to tick all those boxes though. worth looking into!

Sunscreen is really important for preventing wrinkles, regardless of skin color. It is recommended to wear at least 30SPF on your face (I wear 50spf on my face and neck). You should wear sunscreen on your face every single day, regardless if you think you won't have much sun exposure. The sun is not friendly to your skin.

Asian sunscreens, IMO, are the best. They're cheaper and use ingredients that do not irritate the skin (for most people). Asian sunscreens are highly recommended over at /r/skincareaddiction, such as this.

Wow, that's a pretty big haul! It's great that you've got some knowledge of basic skincare and makeup! You can also check out the Beginner's guide for some more information on Asian skincare. The Holy Grail list is also a good introductory resource for different types of layering skincare products, and some makeup products. If you know your skin type and concerns, you can also check out the February Routine thread to see what other users have in their routine and if it helps them.

Now, on to the main concern of your post!

Primers

Like other users have mentioned in your original post, you do have two eye primers. Do you intend on wearing eyeshadow often? If yes, I suggest that you try them and pick the one that works the best for you. If it's possible, you could return both and try the samples instead.

Setting Powder

I think the Innisfree No Sebum Mineral Powder and the Skinfood Peach Sake Silky Finish Powder are great. The best thing about them is that they work wonderfully (given that it's not caked on), and the smooth finish lasts the entire day for me. They are also cost efficient, and you can find plenty of reviews online.

Sun protection

I haven't tried that Shiseido sunscreen, so I can't comment on the quality and effectiveness of it. I suggest that you try it to make sure that:

• the sun protection is enough for you in your daily activities
  
• the finish of the cream is appropriate for your skin type (is it greasy? matte?)
  
• your skin doesn't become irritated by the sunscreen
  
  I prefer using the Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel and the newly formulated Biore
  Aqua Rich Watery Essence. I find that both of them do not cause me to break out, or leave my face feeling oily and greasy. They are seriously my HG. You might want to consider trying these as well! They are a bit cheaper than the Shiseido one, and the PA+++/++++ protection is a huge plus!
  
  Lip tint
  
  For $12, the Sephora lip stain is not a bad pick up! That's about on par for most Asian lip tints.
  
  Eyeshadow palettes
  
  Many Asian eyeshadows are neutral colors and tones, and are not as pigmented as other American brands. Personally, I don't mind this because it suits my tastes, but others might. I am a fan of the Urban Decay Naked palettes, and I do recommend them if they aren't out of your price range. I also like the NYX palettes because they are quite affordable with good color pay-off, and the Innisfree Mineral Single Shadows because of the sparkles in some of the selections.
  
  Before you purchase, you can also do some research and look for reviews of other palettes that you're interested in (unless you feel like being adventurous!). Most reviews include swatches so you can see how that color looks on that individual.
  
  I can't comment on the blush or lip primer since I don't use those types of products often in my routine.
  
  Regarding your skin type and concerns... What is your current routine? For color correction, there are many products that help with lightening redness. I have seen much success with using Missha's Time Revolution FTE (old formula) and Missha Time Revolution Night Repair Science Activator Ampoule. These products usually go on sale often, so be sure to check out the Missha sales. You could also look into incorporating some vitamin C, AHA, or BHA products in your routine as well.
  
  There are also many moisturizing creams that can moisturize your skin! You can look through the two lists I linked above to find some of the popular ones that ABers recommend.
  
  Lastly... before I fall asleep ... You don't have to be afraid of skincare and makeup! The process of finding your HG products will require trial and error. Here, I would like to stress that makeup and skincare is very much YMMV. What works for one person may not work for another, so that's why it's important to patch test and do research! For beginners, I would not recommend buying a full sized, expensive, product before trying a sample of it or doing research! The best thing about Sephora is that you can ask for a sample to try at home before you commit to the purchase. That way, if it causes a breakout, you wouldn't have to worry about wasting it or having to make a trip to the store to return it. In addition, by being mindful of the ingredients, you can potentially find out which ingredient(s) cause a bad reaction and avoid it.
  
  We're all very friendly and helpful here, and many of us are able to answer any questions you may have! There's a daily thread that's stickied, and you can ask specific questions there.
  
  Best of luck!

Starting with the sunscreens on the right.

1.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007408QD2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q1WT58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

3.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007408PIS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

4.)http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Natural-Aqua-Gel-250ml/dp/B001ABLKK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425251492&sr=8-1&keywords=cure+natural+aqua+gel

5.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSNBO9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

6.)http://www.amazon.com/Rohto-CP-Hadalabo-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B000VSYBDI/ref=pd_sbs_bt_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0JJEE4XYH7P2Z5QBB82C

7.) PD

8.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BS3Q372/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

9.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036MDUEM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

10.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BN4BT0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

11.)http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036MDUE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have combination acne prone skin. I see decent results. I don't much care for aha+bha cleanser, #10, because it leaves my skin feeling dry, and because it seems a bit gimmicky. I also don't care much for #6 because it makes my skin feel too greasy for the day, and not greasy enough for night.

The Biore Sarasara Uv Aqua Rich Waterly Essence Sunscreen 50g Spf50+ Pa+++ is only $10 on Amazon. If alcohol as an ingredient turns you away, there's also this Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++ for $14 also on Amazon. Bonus - no white cast from either! :D

MBD masks are usually at a good price, along with Missha FTE, and Missha Long Name Ampoule. Most any Hado Labo product is available through Prime such as their HA lotion, Arbutin Milk, cleansing foam, and creamy gel sunscreen, all of which are fairly popular. You can also get the Mizon Snail Recovery Gel Cream on Prime and some of the rest of the Mizon snail line. There may be a discrepancy of $1-3 between sellers or versus another site, but those all include 2-day shipping and Amazon's customer service which is typically very good about protecting your interests when dealing with third-party vendors.

I'd recommend experimenting with Japanese sunscreens like Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel until you find one you can tolerate. There's a lot of sunscreens out there that don't feel nasty at all!

My picks are a rotation of Japanese sunscreens, because when it comes to skincare I just can't stick to one thing!

Some in my rotation:

Disclosure: These are all Amazon non-affiliate links so people here can easily find prices and other reviews (even though I personally shop these on Ebay and Rakuten and not Amazon).

• Biore Perfect Face Milk - Says it's water resistant, I personally like the finish and can use it under makeup with no issues.
  
  
• Biore Perfect Milk - This is great for going out in my opinion, an actual going outside face sunscreen!
  
  
• Hada Labo Creamy UV Gel - Very light and friendly, I reserve it for interior use.
  
  
• Shiseido SENKA Mineral Water - I really like this one and on me this has a matte powdery finish. Some people complain it goes on greasy. I find that whole it's greasier than others during application, it dries out non-greasy. YMMV.
  
  
• Forgot to add: I use Privacy's UV Face Powder for retouching. It's Zinc Oxide based. There are other sunscreen powders on the market. My mom uses Colorescience's and it can be found on Amazon too, and Peter Thomas Roth also has one. I just use this one because it's cheaper. It's very whitish though so not the best option for darker skintones.
  
  Finally, the cult favorite is Biore Watery Essence so I'm linking it. I personally did not like how drying this was and its citrus smell, but the vast majority of people swear by it because it's really light and easy to use everyday in interiors.
  
  Japanese sunscreens generally contain alcohol and all the ones I listed do contain alcohol, so if you're against alcohol in sunscreen you might not like the ones I list, however there are some well liked alcohol-free Japanese sunscreens that you can find searching online, /r/AsianBeauty can be a good resource for these.
  
  The reason I personally like Japanese sunscreens in particular is their texture and their ingredients. Most of them contain Titanium Dioxide (a physical UV blocker) and/or Zinc Oxide (the broadest spectrum UVA blocker approved for sunscreen use at the moment). UVA are the rays you need to look out for when preventing sings of aging. This is what PA and the plus signs after it stand for in Japanese sun products, while the SPF we are all familiar with only refers to UVB protection. Four plus signs after PA denote the highest level of protection currently in place.
  
  The downside of physical sunscreen it that it tends to leave a white cast behind so darker-skinned people might have issues with this aesthetically.
  
  There might be western sunscreens that are physical but most mainstream brands (like Neutrogena) rely on their chemical patented formula (or a mix of physical and chemical like some of La Roche Posay), which is also good, but can be sensitizing to some people. They also do have a greasier formula that remains tacky at least in my experience, and some people really hate this about sunscreen.
  
  I don't personally use Korean sunscreens at the moment because their regulations only allow PA+++ to be the highest, but many people enjoy their variety, so again you can look in the AsianBeauty subreddit or on youtube/blogs if you want to read reviews of those.
  
  **
  
  
  
  If you for personal reasons would like to get a Western brand physical non-greasy sunscreen, Paula's Choice Resist Super-Light Daily Wrinkle Defense SPF 30 Tinted Matte Moisturizer contains Zinc Oxide protection and has a matte finish!
  
  Her line is overall well liked by people because of their choice of ingredients due to a philosophy of extensive research. I have this sunscreen and while I found it too drying for my normalish-to-combo skin, it could be a godsend for oilier people. Ideal for daily use, and it has some tint. I haven't tried any other of her sunscreens but her line is worth looking into, if you're new to building a routine! Unfortunately I'm just noticing that since my introduction to this brand in 2014 the prices have raised, most likely due to her online following growing.
  
  Final note: All of which I just wrote is stuff I learned from the Internet and also my personal experiences with the products I've tried and liked, I'm not a sun protection expert!*
  

I like Shiseido Senka Mineral Water UV Gel and Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel. Both have no white cast and don't break me out if removed properly through double cleansing. As for pilling, that usually happens when you layer two or more products with incompatible bases (e.g. silicone- and water-based products).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007408PIS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SO GOOOOOODDDDD!!!!!!!

These are $12 on Amazon with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007408PIS?pc_redir=1411222167&robot_redir=1

I love this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BJEAAHY/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687462&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B004LPZZU0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1ZCEK8G78JTGG7H756EE

I also like Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel, but it does make me look a little shiny. Here's the link, though, if you want to look at it. It does have one more "+," so it has better UVA protection.

http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418758078&sr=1-1&keywords=hada+labo+uv+creamy+gel

Many here like this one as well, though it dried out my skin a little too much. Might work better on you, though:

http://www.amazon.com/Biore-Sarasara-Watery-Essence-Sunscreen/dp/B00LA6QEOE/ref=pd_sim_hpc_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0YK87Z0EN9ZNZNFDEQVJ

For whatever reason the single pack isn't coming up as Prime... :(

Also, the correct amount is 1/4 a tbs. Cheers!

Biore UV Bright Face Milk is PA++++

I really loved this stuff but unfortunately it's too drying for my skin :( I have a bottle that's still pretty full, if you like I can send it to you! If you're interested in trying it out of course.

I'm trying Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel next, it's supposed to be more moisturizing.

Spam much appreciated! Here's what else I've got in my cart:


Innisfree Eco Safety Perfect Sunblock (SPF50+/PA+++) 50ml


Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++


Biore Sarasara Uv Aqua Rich Waterly Essence Sunscreen 50g Spf50+ Pa+++

And that's it because I apparently can't count :>

I've been alternating between Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel and Biore Perfect Face Milk depending on if my skin feels dry that day and if I need a sweatproof/waterproof sunscreen or not. Perfect Face Milk can be drying (especially on my dry-ish skin) so I need to use tons of moisturizer underneath, but it is also sweat and water-resistant which is handy when I'm going to be walking around and sweating a lot. UV Creamy Gel is very moisturizing and doesn't require extra moisturizer underneath, but is not resistant to anything.

I also own Rohto Mentholatum Sunplay Super Block and Shiseido Senka Aging Care UV Sunscreen but I don't use them nearly as often. Sunplay is a bit too moisturizing for my liking and Aging Care smells like baby powder and makes my pores look larger after wearing it all day. I have Biore Bright Face Milk coming in the mail right now as well so once I get that I will probably do a comprehensive review of all 5 of those sunscreens.

And no, I am not Asian. I'm Russian (Russian-American? That sounds kinda weird haha) but just really into Asian skincare products.

ditch american sunscreens, they offer shit protection against uva rays.

these two are great:

http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426017554&sr=8-1&keywords=hada+labo+uv+creamy+gel


http://www.amazon.com/Biore-Sarasara-Waterly-Essence-Sunscreen/dp/B004LRO7DO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426017624&sr=8-1&keywords=biore+aqua+rich


far better uva protection, extremely wearable with zero white cast, fairly cheap.

remember that the term "spf" only measures protection against uvb rays, "ppd" or "pa+++/+" is uva protection. uva rays are the ones that cause dna damage, break down collagen, accelerate skin aging, all that shit you want to avoid. a sunscreen with an spf of 70 isn't going to do too much against uva rays for long if its ppd is only ~8, which is where american sunscreens are generally at, but i don't think it'd be a stretch to say most are even below that number.

if you'd rather just buy whatever you see at the drugstore for daily/casual use, it's still light years better than not wearing anything at all. but if you live in florida or california and are outside all day every day, it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider upping your uva protection.

and remember, uvb rays can't penetrate glass but uva rays can - skin damage is still accumulated driving in your car or sitting inside near windows. if you drive a lot, might be something to consider too.

This isn't drugstore, but it's around 12 dollars on Amazon: Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel PA++++. Excellent UVA/UVB protection, chemical/physical combo. It does have alchohol, but not as much as other Asian sunscreens. I have dry/sensitive skin and it never flakes or irritates me. It's actually a little hydrating. I will be reordering soon!

It's a light blue color http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS/ref=sr_1_1?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1427484512&sr=1-1&keywords=hada+labo+uv+creamy+gel

Ok, maybe I can be of some more help. Sunscreen is very confusing and their is a ton of information out there. I got lucky on my first try and found a great product after lots of research. Hado Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF 50 PPD ++++. It's an Asian brand I bought off of Amazon Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007408PIS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_OV2Pub1WW11N2 and is highly reviewed on SCA. It's creamy and moisturizing and dried to a sheen on your skin. It's not drying and not sticky or oily and wears beautifully under my makeup, I love putting it on and it has the highest UVA/UVB rating around. There are many like it but that is something to check out as a starting point.

Welcome! What are your skin concerns? You said your skin is "semi-oily", does that mean oily T-zone? Do you have any scarring or anything?

To answer your question about panda eyes, I have really bad dark circles and there is some cream I use from Nature Republic. It's helped to brighten up that area a bit.

Also, I noticed that you said you wear suncreen, but that you are "quite tan". I think you should up your sunscreen game. I'm sure you know all about the risks of skin cancer, but (as other AB members can attest to), sun damage can greatly speed up the aging process for your skin. Do yourself a favor and wear a sunscreen with a very high SPF. You can find some great recommendations on this sub; I myself use this one.

I only used it twice (that is how much I hated it) and so cannot remember the exact smell. If I have to guess, I think they try to be flowery. The only thing that I recall is that I took a sniff and wanted to throw up. Then the smell lingers. Then there is the feel. It does not feel nice as say compared to loccitane non-spf hand cream. After this, I was afraid to get the loccitane hand cream with spf because I read review about bad smell at sephora.

i rather use PC hand cream (which is not moisturizing) or hada labo uv cream gel spf (for face but is too heavy for my oily skin so I use it on my hands)http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS. PC is physical sunscreen. I used to use it for the face when they had no other physical sunscreen available.

For my hands, i want to prevent getting madonna like wrinkly hands. Moisture is secondary ti me.

For for products with hyaluronic acid in it Hada Labo is your friend. They have a [hydrating hyaluronic acid toner] (https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Gokujyn-Hyaluronic-Lotion/dp/B000FQUGXA) and facial wash that is loved in this sub. They also have a HA sheet masks, sunscreen, moisterizer and oil cleanser so you could technically make an entire routine with products with HA in them!

Hmmmm that's so interesting!! I looked again and the Amazon listing I bought it from (from a Japanese seller) says PA+++, but I checked my bottle and it actually says PA++++. I wonder if it's been reformulated? Ratzilla's website would say so, but I don't have time today to check.

Here's the listing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007408PIS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00CEGVWPU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0XQ39QJNJWB4G0DHGJ7V

I feel kinda dumb haha. Thanks for pointing it out! Now I will stop searching for a PA++++ =)

I just use sunscreen instead of both! I use

Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++

Seconding the Biore! I also use the Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel!
Which one I pick kind of depends on what I need that day. If I'm in a rush, I do the Biore because it absorbs sooooo quickly. If I need just a little extra hydration, I use the Hada Labo. You can get them both on Amazon. Neither of them mess with my foundation or give me white cast. Both are all around awesome sunscreens.

Hey all!

Issue: Acne

Skin type: Sensitive/dry

Current routine:

Morning:

CeraVe Hydrating Facial Cleanser
The Body Shop Tea Tree Skin Mattifying Toner
It Cosmetics Confidence in a Cream Moisturizing Cream
Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF 50

Evening:
Castor Oil + Sweet Almond Oil (a la http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com) 3-4 nights a week, the CeraVe Hydrating cleanser on the non-OCM nights
CeraVe Daily Moisturizing Lotion on OCM nights, CeraVe SA Lotion for Rough & Bumpy Skin on non-OCM nights

Occasionally used:
ReShape+ Dark Spot Corrector Cream
Mario Badescu Drying Lotion

Length: I've been using this routine for roughly a month, the newest things I've added are the It Cosmetics moisturizer and the OCM. I know with the OCM they say your skin gets worse before it can get better and to do it consistently for 3 weeks for results but I feel like I've done it that long and my cheeks and around my mouth are still red and bumpy.

Other facts: I'm in the process of decreasing the amount of fast food and greasy food I eat, which is a lot right now but hopefully soon will be none. I think that will clear up my skin a little bit but I feel like poor diet isn't the only thing causing this. With the routine I currently have the bumps on my face tend to go away for a day or two but the redness persists and then the actual bumps return.

Location: Southern California

Any advice/suggestions are welcome; thank you for reading my post!

Edit: https://imgur.com/a/8bVpE, thought I attached a pic of each side of my face, whoops!

I am in the Bay Area, California :/. There's none you know of that are without that smell? Anyways, so this works well, and doesn't have that distinct smell?: http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS

Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007408PIS/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_uxDQub0QHNPBK this?

Amazon! It says it is PA +++ but it is actually the PA ++++. Every once in a while it will be Prime too!
http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS

Combo skin.


Physical: Alba Botanica 30 mineral


Highest PPD (38-39) La Roche Posay Anthelios Dermo-Pediatric SPF50+ Lotion 300ml


Elegant: Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF50PA+++

And a couple more that I haven't try from Missha.

I noticed a big difference once I switched to the CeraVe PM lotion, which I figured was from the extra niacinamide.

This is the sunscreen I bought. It's SPF 50+/PA ++++ (the Amazon page has it mislabeled as PA +++). Honestly, I'm not too concerned about having a crazy high SPF/PA rating, but I wanted to try this sunscreen because I heard it has a nice, lightweight texture that absorbs easily. I will definitely repurchase :)

OCM is.. amazing. I want to experiment with making my own oil cleanser with pure argan oil + an emulsifier eventually.

The AHA/BHA cream is 15%.. I'm not sure what the breakdown is for AHA or BHA alone :/ Is there a particular BHA that you would recommend? I'm just trying to use this stuff up right now.

This thread will probably be more helpful than I can be https://www.reddit.com/r/AusSkincare/comments/3nfk95/sunscreen_for_oily_skin/, but as the thread says, Neutrogena is a good cheap option, and the other best cheap option is Asian sunscreens, of which I swear by Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel SPF 50, it's a famous Japanese sunscreen that's a light, hydrating white cream that melts into skin and lasts for hours. IT's on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Creamy-Gel-SPF50PA/dp/B007408PIS or $10-$13 on ebay

I would like to add Amazon seller SamuraiJapan to the list of recommended sellers. Items ship for free from Japan, and they carry Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence and Hada Labo UV Creamy Gel, the awesomeness of which is explained here, and are two of my personal favorites. Items ship wrapped in bubble wrap in an envelope and arrive in about two weeks (US). I've ordered from them four times in the past year, and each transaction has been smooth.

I use a lot of Paula's Choice products. The Hado Labe Sunscreen I found on Amazon although the hydrator I can get at my local Ulta.

OTC Vit C Serum and the Mizon Snail Repair (which is actually more of a serum) were also both on Amazon, both of which I was referred to on the asian beauty reddit page.

Good luck! :)

Psst. That is a BB cream. Go check out /r/AsianBeauty for suggestions but most truly asian BB creams have some serious sunscreen power in them and they cover like champs. Also, I love this anime.

Edit: Upon second look, it looks like Hada Labo's Creamy gel. I have it and it works really nice as a base and it is very light.