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Reddit reviews on The Art of Seduction

Sentiment score: 5
Reddit mentions: 8

We found 8 Reddit mentions of The Art of Seduction. Here are the top ones.

Every bit as essential as The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction is an indispensable primer of persuasion that reveals one of history's greatest weapons and the ultimate form of power.

Found 8 comments on The Art of Seduction:

u/[deleted] · 28 pointsr/seduction

I am obsessed. Here is my current collection:

Most of these you can find on thepiratebay / etc, but I own a hard copy of all of these except for The Mystery Method, which I read probably 5 times before I found Magic Bullets (actually don't own that either, just the pdf). I'll add to this list if I think of more.

Must Reads:

Magic Bullets - Savoy ==>> [Torrent] it's expensive!

  • This book is so excellent. It's like a PUA encyclopedia. It walks you through the process, and cites every major text along the way.. none of this "my way works best" crap, but not afraid to make judgments either. For pickup books that employ some form of the M3 Model (however loosely.. which I think means: everyone except Ross Jeffries), this is the authoritative text. If you have an approach that is proven, important, and credible, then it is probably cited in this book.

    Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion - Robert Cialdini

  • I got this book because it is #1 on this list. Turns out, it is the modern version of Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People (see review below).. only this time, it's by someone who knows a thing or two about applied psychology (which either didn't exist back then, or was too under-developed to matter). This guy freaking went undercover as a used car salesman, working with fundraisers, etc. Interestingly enough, I bought this book in the same order as The Game, and in chapter 1 Strauss mentions reading Cialdini's book to prepare for a trip to Belgrade with Mystery, which was his formal introduction into the PUA community.

    The Art of Seduction - Robert Greene

  • I'm not done with this one yet, but I will say this: if you have a conscience, don't read this. It really is a fascinating study of seduction, but it does focus on seduction as a tool to victimize people.. That said, unlike your typical pick-up type book which does not bother to categorize gamers' personality types, this book categorizes different "types" of seducers. This is extremely helpful because you can figure out what type of seducer fits you best, and what things you need to focus on to improve your game.

    How to Win Friends & Influence People - Dale Carnegie

  • This book has sold over 15 million copies. It was originally written in 1937, but has been revised once or twice since it became the best selling self-help type book of all time, which it probably still is. He walks you through the basic principles of how to motivate people.. what works, what doesn't.. etc. Fun, easy, captivating read. It looks thick, but I think I unintentionally read it cover to cover in one sitting the first time I read it in college.. so it's a quick read.


    Should reads:

    The Game - Neil Strauss

  • I think this is one of the best selling pick-up type books. I liked reading it, but it was less of a tutorial book and more of an autobiography.. it does get the job done though. It also is a very entertaining read, and if you doubt that PUA stuff actually works, this will prove to you otherwise because Strauss was a very timid and ugly mofo, but he fucked Jenna Jameson.

    The Mystery Method : How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed - Mystery, Chris Odom, Neil Strauss

  • This introduced me into the world of PUA my senior year of college when I inadvertently stumbled upon a torrent of it (I was probably looking for something to jerk off to. How poetic). I downloaded it just to skim through it skeptically, but this book eventually introduced me to a whole new world. This is an excellent staple / beginner's text, even though I now recommend Magic Bullets because it is so much more objective and inclusive of alternate styles and approaches along the way.

    How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed - Ross Jeffries

  • Not done with this yet, but Ross Jeffries is a freak (not meant to be insulting to him). I have no doubt that his methods are effective, but they are very different. And he really seems a bit evil, as opposed to merely mischievous like most other PUAs are. I haven't decided how incompatible, if not just different, his methods are with the Mystery / Strauss crowd.. but then again, I have never field tested any of his methods myself.

    Truth in Comedy: The Manual of Improvisation - Charna Halpern, Del Close, Kim Johnson

  • A close friend of mine who studied improv in New York lent me this, and I forgot about it until recently -- but it is a very short but brilliant book about comedy. I'm listening now to David DeAngelo's Cock Comedy series, and I realized that almost everything he's saying is straight out of this little text. It's not really something essential for pick-up, which is why I wouldn't put it in Must Reads, but it is excellent nonetheless.


    Meh, they're alright:

    The Pickup Artist: The New and Improved Art of Seduction - Mystery, Neil Strauss

  • You can definitely get some good stuff out of this book, but the whole thing comes across as an excuse for Mystery to brag about how awesome he is. He seriously spends an entire chapter (maybe more) telling a story about him bragging to other PUAs. He does deserve it though, the man is the single most influential PUA ever, if not the most successful in the field.

    Rules of the Game - Neil Strauss

  • This is one of those books that you read once a day for 30 days, and write down statements of intent right in the book like "it is my goal to lose my virginity before my next birthday in 3 months." Probably good for beginners, but I skimmed through this after having been gaming in the field for several months.

    Haven't read yet:

    What Every BODY is Saying: An Ex-FBI Agent's Guide to Speed-Reading People - Joe Navarro, Marvin Karlins

  • This looks really good.

    NLP: The New Technology of Achievement - NLP Comprehensive

    Easy Mind-Reading Tricks - Robert Mandelberg, Ferruccio Sardella

    Palm Reading for Beginners: Find Your Future in the Palm of Your Hand (For Beginners (Llewellyn's)) - Richard Webster

    There are also some good videos out there (links are to torrents. these are all several hundred $$):


    Excellent Videos

    The Annihilation Method - Neil Strauss

  • I met a guy who said he was looking around his apartment for things to sell so he could afford the $375 this costs. apparently he didn't think to check thepiratebay ;)

    Mystery and Style

  • The videos of Mystery in here are just excellent. It's very interesting to see Mystery actually interacting with other people (not in a set), since he is the god of pick-up.

    Decent Videos

    Psychic Influence - Ross Jeffries

  • This is interesting.. I'm not much of a Jeffries guy though, mostly because he's the most oddball of the group, and I haven't studied his material enough.
u/psykocrime · 4 pointsr/relationship_advice

> TL;DR: I'm 22 and have only had one relationship. How do I meet new girls to date? Specifically, how do I approach them in a bar/club and during the day?

A couple of thoughts to help you out:

First, remind yourself of this "Guys are just really ugly girls." (It's a metaphor OK, don't go too far with it) and ask yourself if you're comfortable talking to strange (to you) males? If the answer is "no," then you need to work on the basics of conversing with others. So, start with the basics:

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

How to Talk to Anyone by Leil Lowndes

How to Instantly Connect with Anyone by Leil Lowndes

How to Start a Conversation and Make Friends by Don Gabor

If you've got basic "conversation / small-talk with strangers" nailed, then there is a fair amount of good material out there on how to start conversations with girls; and how to interact with them in a positive way. See:

The big honking list of openers put out by TSB and the books The Game, The Mystery Method, and/or The Pickup Artist.

Robert Greene's The Art of Seduction is a valuable read as well.

FWIW, I think you'll get more useful answers to a question like this on /r/seduction. /r/relationship_advice seems geared more towards managing an existing relationship, whereas /r/seduction is heavily focused on the "initiation phase." There is a TON of material out there on how to overcome anxiety about approaching women, TONS of stuff on how to be a better conversationalist, stuff on how to amp her attraction for you, etc., etc.

Two links that might be of use to you:

New to Seddit?

Fast Seduction.com "You Are New"

Good luck!

u/Noxin__Nixon · 3 pointsr/PurplePillDebate

> Intensity, ambition, sense of humor, creativity, charm? I got all of it, and I'm nice to look at to boot!

Maybe try mixing in some humbleness and subtly?

Also while you might think intensity is a positive quality, its definitely something that turns some (maybe even many) girls off. Have you read Art of Seduction?

u/DrMustache · 2 pointsr/Austin

I'll take spastic over douchey any old day of the week.

5 is pretty easy, and it relates pretty heavily to #6.... just don't put any investment in it at all. Part of getting it down is realizing it's just a numbers game and that applies for everyone. Swing the bat enough times, and eventually you're going to hit a home run (some of us just have better RBIs than others), but again... nobody starts out like that... it all goes back to #6: Practice. Just don't have any investment in it... when you want to stay and chat after you make her smile.... don't. Just walk. It's like... imagine if there was a lottery, and every time you laid down a dollar, you were guaranteed to win back your dollar, plus $0.01. That extra $0.01 is the win. While it might not be a huge win at first blush, do it enough, and eventually you're gonna be a rich SOB. So just do it today. Clean up a little bit... and go enjoy the day. Get some coffee at a nice little coffee house. Maybe go for a walk. Buy groceries. Whatever... and if you see a lady that catches your eye, apply #4.


Which, I guess brings us to #4. Doing it right. First of all, cut yourself some slack... none of us ever do it right every time all the time. Sometimes, you're gonna swing and miss.... just that simple. Don't let that stop you from playing the game though.
Think of what you're doing like any symbiotic relationship you see in the animal kingdom. Be the bee to her flower. You need honey, she needs to be pollinated. (not trying to make it a sexual reference here, I just figured it was prettier than the oxpecker and rhino comparative)...
The ONLY reason you're gonna be complimenting her, is so you can catch that smile... that's it. That smile in turn bolsters your confidence so you have it when you need it. Once you get it.... you can be on your way.
OK... I don't think you have a problem with the honesty part. Seems like you have a good handle and filter on what is and isn't ok to say....so, I'll skip to the elaborating part.
When it comes to elaborating... a few things to remember: Guys aren't nearly as language oriented as women typically. That is to say that most men starve women when it comes to a certain word quota they need to have met. Women are typically more detail oriented... so give them details. Most guys totally miss this one and it's a monster weapon in the arsenal since, again... most guys aren't using it. It gives you a major competitive advantage.

One word of caution about elaboration. It's easy to flub this sometimes if you don't keep the following in mind: The more you talk, the more likely you are to screw something up. Another numbers game really. So assess what you're going to say, and if something pops into your head that you're not really sure of it's potency or strength, just put it on the back burner... you can always use it later if you want. Just fall back to something more certain and a little less descriptive.
Example: Coffee shop, girl in corner wearing a rather striking black dress with a red and white stitch pattern embroidered up the left front side of it... on her laptop, or reading, or writing something... off in her own little world. Something about the dress was one of the first things to strike you.... ok, so there's the honesty part. You're going to comment on her dress. How to elaborate on that rather than just saying, "I like your dress"? Well, there are varying degrees... be like goldilocks and find the one that's just right for you. So while, "I like your dress... it makes me think you have a certain uniqueness about you that tends to rebel against convention, but at the same time you prefer to uphold certain conventional traditions... being something of a proper lady in the way you conduct yourself but having a degree of disdain for those elements of tradition which might treat you as second class...and you're not afraid to push back against those. I dig that." ... So instead of something that overboard and elaborate... you might go with a simple elaboration... "That's a nice dress, I like that... I've never seen one like that... it's rather striking."
In fact, in most cases the former is preferred to the latter when first meeting someone. If all goes well, they'll usually appreciate stronger degrees of honest and complimenting opinion later.
But for now... just drop something like the former: honest, casual, confident (even if it's feigned), a small degree of elaboration, and brief.
So you say the latter, she smiles back... you return the smile... and then excuse yourself... cause that's all you were going for.

As for #1... it's totally true. Women will forgive inept social skills, financial lacking, aesthetics, age... you name it really. Maybe it has something to do with that whole nurturing hard wiring thing, I have no idea... but believe me I've screwed up on so many things, so many times.... and all of them have given me more chances than I probably deserved...because... they're fucking awesome like that. Just don't take advantage of it.... otherwise they will rain down on you a shower of hurt.

As for #5... it's like... taking a swing at a bully that's bigger than you, or... going bungee jumping or something like that... it's scary as fuck sometimes... but... you just commit to it despite your fears about it. Courage and confidence aren't matters of not being scared... their just matters of being defiant of your fears. So yeah... you'll be nervous, you'll be a little scared... that's just gonna be there... so know that, and now focus on the action part... and just... act anyway.
Just like bungee jumping, you can be scared the cord might break or it might be too long or whatever... but despite it... you just... act....jump. Next thing you know, you've just had the time of your life and you're itching to do it again. :)

8 is pretty easy, especially since it sounds like you've been there already. Try focusing on those things which are emphasis journey over destination. Try something like volunteer work for a charity. Since there is a rather abstract destination there (i.e. you want to end animal cruelty or kill shelters or something...you know full well the work you put in for a few hours isn't going to accomplish it.... it won't get you to your destination... but it'll get you closer just by engaging in the journey)... volunteering time is really awesome for this since again, there's usually not a really strong "destination" in most cases. Most if it, you're just helping with part of the journey.

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More directly as it applies to meeting and courting... just put the focus on the littlest things. Basically this

If you feel like you've got 7 &amp; 9 &amp; 10 down, then you do. That stuff is usually pretty intuitive.

Also, there's a lot of good stuff in here that you might find helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Seduction-Robert-Greene/dp/0142001198

I hope some of that stuff helps. :)


u/Mancalime · 1 pointr/needadvice

If you're looking for love, don't change yourself.

If you're looking to have fun etc. give this book a try: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Seduction-Robert-Greene/dp/0142001198

u/AFPJ · 1 pointr/asktrp

Only ever give affection genuinely, The Art of Seduction is a good read. I don't like chick things, just do your shit next to her. Ex: Snuggle up &amp; read yours books or do work on your laptop while she watches TV with headphones. A dinner or some other kind of date once or twice a month, with you making the effort to enjoy it, will go long enough of a way.