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Reddit mentions of The Good That Men Do (Star Trek: Enterprise)

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We found 12 Reddit mentions of The Good That Men Do (Star Trek: Enterprise). Here are the top ones.

The Good That Men Do (Star Trek: Enterprise)
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Found 12 comments on The Good That Men Do (Star Trek: Enterprise):

u/jrodx88 · 6 pointsr/todayilearned

Preach it, I'm still right there with you too. Season 4 of Enterprise was so freaking good.

If you didn't like Trip's stupid demise, (I mean who did?) they did try and ret-con it with a book a few years later, going off the idea that what Riker was just a in an historical re-enactment and it's not exactly what happened.

The Good That Men Do. 19-year-old me was very happy with it, I don't know how it's aged though.

u/MHB210 · 5 pointsr/startrek

If you insist on seeing These Are the Voyages..., then there are torrents that have it, as well as startrek.com and Netflix. However, you might be better off reading The Good That Men Do instead, since it re-writes Enterprise's finale into something that not only doesn't suck, but also makes sense.

u/impshial · 4 pointsr/startrek

Read the books after the finale. They aren't canon, but it's as close as you'll get because newer Star Trek books are almost all linear, with the various authors working together to make sure their storylines mesh with each other.

These books are considered the "Relaunch" books, and pick up the story after the series ended. IMO, they do a very good job of continuing the story:

Last Full Measure

The Good That Men Do

Kobayashi Maru

The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing

The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm

Rise of the Federation: A Choice of Future

Coming March 25th:

Rise of the Federation: Tower of Babel

u/beavis420 · 3 pointsr/startrek

No, the first one that introduces everything and is essentially the first one of the three part series is called, "The Good That Men Do" and is the back story to the Klingon mutagenic virus and takes place where Enterprise ended. I didn't read it, but a lot of it is mentioned in "Kobyashi Maru" so you get a sense of what it was about, Trips involvement with the Romulans and how the Klingons were nearly whiped out because of the mutagenic virus (which explains why the Klingons look different in TOS).

Here's a link if you're interested:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743440013/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=1416554807&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1JB1RMDAKY60VYYQ53G4

I highly recommend "Kobayashi Maru" though.

u/Travyplx · 3 pointsr/DeepSpaceNine

I definitely agree with this, Garak was one of my favorite characters and AJR put a ton of effort into developing him. I was thrilled when I finally got a copy of this book a few years back in an auction for cheap. I now have 2 copies and hope to someday have him sign one. Of all the Star Trek novels, this and The Good That Men Do (Star Trek Enterprise) are the two best Star Trek novels I have read.

u/dcpDarkMatter · 2 pointsr/DaystromInstitute

The Good That Men Do is a great first start.

u/seattleque · 2 pointsr/startrek

This gets posted whenever the ending comes up, but go read The Good that Men Do

u/Chairboy · 1 pointr/startrek

I've read... pretty much all of them, and I'll say they're uneven. There are some stinkers, but if you hit one of those early on don't be discouraged, because there's also plenty of good ones.

Some recent stuff I've really enjoyed was the post-Enterprise stuff that came along and 'fixed' the finale then took the series to the logical next step: Romulan conflict.

  • The Good That Men Do
  • Kobayashi Maru (not to be confused with the TOS book of the same name that came out decades ago)
  • The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing
  • The Romulan War: To Brave the Storm


    These books really lay out a strong foundation about WHY the Romulan war was so bad and why emotion was still as strong as it was by Balance of Terror when crewman whathisname flipped out on Spock after they learned the 'terrible secret'. They also go into the logistics of how this secret could have been maintained, tie into TOS and even Voyager episodes in completely legit feeling ways ("Did Chulak of Romulus give an ultimatum after his defeat at Galorndon Core?", A Piece of the Action) that rewards knowledge of trek lore.

    They even tackle (in what I felt were pretty convincing ways) explanations for why the bridge of the TOS Enterprise looks more 'primitive', and the reasoning they come up with adds depth and texture to the Trek universe. No spoilers, but it makes practical sense.

    There's a little bit of suspension of disbelief needed, especially in that first book (which uses a post-DS9 Jake/Nog wrapper, no spoiler this is in the first few pages), but sometimes surgery hurts.
u/TheMastorbatorium · 0 pointsr/DaystromInstitute

There may be 'better' ways depending on your goals, and would The Prime Directive not apply in most cases?

Non-sentient/non-warp capable life would automatically become exempt, unless that life was on a Federation member world. You can't mess with the natural order of things for the sake of it, they appear to be very darwinian about it all, if it wasn't fit to exist in it's environment for whatever reason, then they leave it to die.

"The Prime Directive is not just a set of rules. It is a philosophy, and a very correct one. History has proven again and again that whenever mankind interferes with a less developed civilization, no matter how well intentioned that interference may be, the results are invariably disastrous."
—Jean-Luc Picard, Symbiosis

..So you're limited to Federation member worlds, who have sentient warp capable species living on them, who'd be directly affected by the exinction of that species, and they'd probably have to show a legitimate need for it.

Cloning is so 2370. If you're using Augmentation techniques, why not go full Soong and design 'better' animals?

We know that before Kirks time way back in 'Season 5' of Enterprise,
in the book "The good that men do" Charles Tucker, working for Section 31 goes to Adigeon Prime to get his genes resequened to enable him to pass as another species.
(The same planet a 7 year old Bashir is taken for similar reasons).

So gene manipulation is definitely a thing before, during and after Kirks time. B'Elanna even tries to design her own baby in Voyager

The Federation have access to 'Genesis Wave' technology, technology that can create life from nothingness, but can't really be used as the Genesis technology itself was/is still flawed, due to the use of protomatter as a substitute for the ['Taurus meta-genome'](#s "Discovered in the Taurus reach by a team involving a young Carol Marcus") in the Vanguard book series, and further explored in the 'Genesis Wave' TNG books.

Why not use the Transporter? It'd be faster, we know from the tng episode 'Second Chances' that the transporter can create identical copies of complicated life. If you've got a copy of for example Riker.jpg in the database, why not fiddle with the genes at your leisure, print out a few test runs, do a Tuvix.

There is an ongoing theme in the books, Post TNG/DS9/VOY era regarding the Andorians. Basically, due to needing 4 people to procreate, the Andorians have been slowly going extinct, and there is an ethical debate over whether the Augment research should be de-classified so that they can [try something else to save themselves.](#s "They tried a lot of things, but a lot of the promising ideasor thoughts are rejected, either by xenophobia, or the scientific community after disastrous results. They even start photocopying citizens ala Thomas Riker, via the transporter") In the Star Trek Titan series of books

If the conservation of the whales brought 'back' from the 80's, was even a remote priority, then they would almost certainly have been cloned and 'augmented' to repopulate the species. One breeding pair, doesn't have the genetic diversity to support healthy generations of offspring, (despite what the bible says) brothers & sisters mating allows errors in DNA (which would ordinarily be filtered out with partners with different enough genes) to propogate, leading to retardation, affirmity, disability and the eventual death of that species. (Again).


*edit for spoilers and formatting. /sigh I'm an idiot who can't get that last spolier/link to work, you're just gonna have to hover over it, i'm done trying to edit it.