Reddit mentions of The Truth About the Drug Companies: How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It

"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine"

Marcia Angell, “Drug companies & doctors: a story of corruption," NY Review of Books, 56 #1, 15 Jan

https://www.amazon.com/The-Truth-About-Drug-Companies/dp/0375760946/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400820070&sr=8-1&keywords=drug+companies+corruption

Get ready to pounce and downvote me but yes, this is how I feel, especially after reading this book. The fact is, many (not all) of the drug companies, especially the big ones, spend more on their legal teams and their marketing/sales than they do on R and D.

Legislation passed since the 80's has made it a priority for big pharma to spend more time and money maintaining patents than actually developing new drugs. Also, I have many friends who work in big pharma, a number of whom have told me to my face that they would NEVER use the drugs sold by their own companies.

I wish there were more of a collaborative open/source type environment with drug manufacturing. But there isn't and there's way too much money involved. Big pharma and Washington are bedmates and fuck the rest of us.

For the record, the above book was written by a doctor not Jenny McCarthy.

Aqui explica um dos motivos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEPMGhBaioo

Editado: e para uma explicação bem detalhada tem: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501599172&sr=8-1&keywords=marcia+angell https://www.amazon.com/Overdosed-America-Promise-American-Medicine/dp/0061344761/ref=pd_sim_14_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0061344761&pd_rd_r=CVFSQNC32QB2VFKGGBAC&pd_rd_w=Qm3wb&pd_rd_wg=gtytp&psc=1&refRID=CVFSQNC32QB2VFKGGBAC https://www.amazon.com/800-Million-Pill-Truth-behind/dp/0520246705/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501599308&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=the+100+million+dollar+pill https://www.amazon.com/Take-Medicines-Complicity-Business-Endanger/dp/0195300041/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1501599376&sr=1-1&keywords=on+the+take

i think you just selectively ignore all the evidence presented to you cuz it doesn't follow your beliefs.



the only way you would change ur opinion is if you historically have a bent against govt and big pharma because you know history and you know how they messed up big time due to the greedy nature of the system

• vioxx and the dozens of drugs recalled (and soon to be recalled like opioids) decades after they were released and harmed hundreds of thousands of ppl,
  
• the tobacco science,
  
• Asbestos (Johnson&Johnson knowingly having asbestos in baby powder)
  
• tamiflu,
  
• crap science showing marijuana was bad,
  
• Monsanto’s glyphosate causing cancer,
  
• tuskeegee and the countless other unethical experiments that have occurred in the states
  
  No wonder 3 former editors-in-chiefs of the New England Journal of Medicine (widely considered the premier medical journal) from the 90's and 2000's eventually left the journal and came out with books such as these.
  
  " It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine." - Marcia Angell, former editior in chief of NEJM
  
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  Picture of the 3 books http://1boringoldman.com/images/angell.gif
  
  The Truth about Drug Companies: How they deceive us and what to do about it by Dr Marcia Angell
  
  On the Take: How medicine's complicity with Big Business can Endanger your Health by Dr. Jerome Kassirer,
  
  A Second Opinion: REscuing America’s Healthcare by Dr. Arnold Relman

> Do you have a source for your first claim?

Yes: Me. Other than me, this book covers a lot of it: http://www.amazon.com/The-Truth-About-Drug-Companies/dp/0375760946/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368808202&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Truth+About+the+Drug+Companies

I'm not saying pharma companies don't do any research, I'm saying that the majority of the research done leading to basically all pharma developments is done by people other than pharma companies.

Welcome to the dark side of Big Pharma. Trust me, it gets worse. If you'd like to know more, I can recommend Marcia Angell's book.

Well anyway, you're right with your broader criticism. (Not sure about USA being worse than Europe. I don't know much about how things are in Europe.)

For more: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946

Just a few points:

1. they are "patentable", every innovative pharmaceutical or biotech product is.
   
2. oncology business is already pretty big, they don't want to destroy or shake too much this booming market. That's why development is pursued to treat and not to cure.
   
3. the majority of people expect to have magic pills for everything when actually everyone should be more or less capable to be their own doctor, meaning to have common sens when it comes to being healthy.
   
   You should read "the truth about drug companies"

The Truth About Drug Companies How They Deceive Us and What to do About It....

You can also get the audio book from your library if you have a library card.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0375760946?cache=d10a4131915aa7f899b2e3e4059cb3c2&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1413214004&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

If you are interested in the subject, take a look at The Truth About the Drug Companies by the former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine... It will really piss you off.

You dont know who Dr Peter Gotzsche is, do you? His book is extensively cited.

Here is another book on the subject, by a former editor of the NEJM.

The Truth About the Drug Companies: How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It https://www.amazon.com/dp/0375760946/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_uZvYBb52HA0KE

Maybe you should look at the pharmaceutical industry.

To say science is worthless is nonsensical. Money has corrupted the scientific endeavor. That's a fact jack? Don't believe it? Read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Truth-About-Drug-Companies/dp/0375760946

And where do you think these "climate scientists" are working?

I believe the farmers. The guys who get shit done. Not the fear mongers' employees.

http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2014/Q4/study-farmers-and-scientists-divided-over-climate-change.html

>Saying “sponsored science” and big pharma are skewing all the facts is a conspiracy theory like the originating tweet.

Nah. More like the sober reality of an informed person.

>“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.”

https://ethicalnag.org/2009/11/09/nejm-editor/

Care to address the downfall of medical science?

Is evidence based medicine icon Peter Gotzsche making it all up?

>The "evidence tells us that it is likely that the DTP vaccine increases total mortality in low-income countries."

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dtp-vaccine-associated-with-increased-rate-of-total-mortality-in-low-income-countries-says-peter-gotzsche-in-new-expert-report-300902971.html

https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Medicines-Organised-Crime-Healthcare/dp/1846198844

https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946

but the science is settled, right?

Sounds like you need to learn about Rockefeller Medicine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6J_7PvWoMw

Then read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375760946

Thanks.