Reddit mentions of World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17

Vitamin B17, http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/



Great book:
http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/dp/0912986190

This info really needs to be made known.

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World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17

> For as much as you hear that disease like heart disease and cancer don't exist in indigenous people, they do exist in poor, filth ridden, polluted countries.

on the 'indigenous' you may want to check out Edward Griffin's theory on that link 1, link 2, link 3

> on the 'poverty-stricken city dwellers who do' ... (paraphrasing this, of course :P )

going with the idea that indigenous consume a lot of 'natural foods' high in 'B-17' and that 'city poor' would eat what's more readily available.. ie, low laetrile in the processed foods the poor would more likely have access too or be able to scrounge up.. ...thus, less 'cancer-fighting' capabilities

> crohn's

I've posted to /r/crohns a few times over the past year'ish... s.boulardii (aka 'baker's yeast') seems to help with that ... I'm too lazy to dig up a self-post I posted to /r/crohn's <10 months ago (I post a lot, it'd take a while to scroll back to find) ... but, I also post to /r/microbiome a lot (was going to recommend you check that one out, it may have some things that you'll find interesting)....and, well, the content of the self-post to /r/crohns was relative to various informations I'd run across where people were talking about how s.boulardii helped (by no means a 'cure') with crohns. a lot actually.

> worm

I've read a pretty good amount about worms. .. unfortunately, I haven't gotten around to posting to /r/nematology much... yet... but I have posted about it (some) to /r/microbiology. .. I've read where they actually can be helpful with things, and are seeing increasing research relative to their potential use towards healing

...personally though, I've read more about them in a negative light. ...and, I personally tend to view them in that light.

I'm a big fan of probiotics & such, but after having talked with doctors, homeopaths, and people in the industry, I (tend to... to overuse the phrase) agree with the stance of a lot of them in that a healthy microbiome is definitely something that should be 'strived' for, and that probiotics can definitely help... but, ..and even with as much as I've read and posted about it... it must still be looked at from the perspective that you're giving yourself an infection.

That probiotics (and, worms in this case) can help rebalance things that are very 'out of whack', .. like surgery, drugs, medicines in general, etc ... but should be seen as a tool, a means to an end, and not an 'end' itself. ...as a way to help tip the system back to a more-centered balance.

But, also that there's really no telling how the body will react. Not just because there haven't been enough models relating to it, but also because even if there are a billion times as many models as we've currently created, there's never really/entirely a way to 'perfectly predict' just what the body's going to do and how the body will react ... they're living organisms being brought together and introduced into a living organisms ... and all are doing what they're programmed to do: survive.. and thrive where able to.

I guess my point is, worms are a tool. ... in this case, but a tool with a life of their own, and one that there's really no telling how they'll respond or react once in the body.

horror stories like this, and dozens of others.. ...well, let me say this, from what I've read, a lot more problems are actually caused by worms than I'd imagine will be 'solved' by them.

...and, killing them after a rebalance or intended goal is attained may prove to be harder than initially thought. ..esp as they've already shown many times to be evolving defenses against common drugs on the market.

I, personally, would give that one a bit more time for the science to 'prove itself' before I'd want to try it out.

...I, also, am not someone suffering from the hor'atrocities that I've read about diseases like Crohn's, celiac, etc either ... so, I can only imagine, and, at that, I'm not really sure I want to.. ..outside of a medical-like curiosity with hopes to find something that may 'help' people ... w/out hurting them.

But, the same stands for the s.boulardii recommendation above. Though I've read great things about it, and though it's categorized as a 'pro'-biotic ... and sold on shelves the country/world over, I've also read where people've had problems with it. So, on my recommendation of it, and the positive things my self-post on /r/crohns seemed to bring about with people's experiences about it, I'd most definitely do my own research (if I were you) before taking some 'random redditors' advice on it helping you.

That being said, I agree with the indigenous mindset. I'm by no means a paleo-diet'er, I thought that the video in this post does an excellent job at showing things that the soil has in it ... and, while watching it, I imagined myself eating vegetables (ie, foods that grow underground) raw where organisms within that soil sample had infiltrated said vegetables and managed to survive both my gi-tract, as well my body's defenses and the defenses of my microbiome, and had now become competitive parts within it ...

...it definitely had me rethinking the health benefits of 'juicing' .. though I still do it (I'm addicted!)

but,back to the indigenous, I think that a healthy microbiome will go a long way towards making a competitive-enough environment in such that organisms that I don't want in me .... ...will have a difficult time finding a comfortable spot to call 'home'.

..but, (to overuse that word too) I'm also an 'anti-worm'er' so.. I'd take that with a 'grain of salt' as well (i've actually heard where salt is a pretty good dewormer, whereby it dries out the worms and helps them to become more mobile in the system (potentially crawling into the brain! ... coming from someone who's had brain surgery for cysts that would've otherwise killed me had the surgery not been performed.. ...the cause of the cyst was not determined, but having watch videos like this one I've been left wondering..)

oh, the salt... can help the worms become more mobile, and, as such, expose them to a wider assortment of the body's defenses in such that it may have an easier & more-likely time killing them.. or at least driving them out.

I think it's best to build a healthy gut flora through foods more so than probiotics, but I'm also a fan of probiotics. ...and, though I've taken more than my fair share of antibiotics in my life (also a fan of them ... but only in more extreme cases where a healthy body with plenty of iodine doesn't ward off things first .. ...very first link ..and second... ever posted in that sub) ... but,

I gave up on finishing this hours ago... ...it's only because it's been left open on my computer that I'm even posting it... otherwise, if my comp had crashed, restarted, whatever ... I think you, me, the world at large would be better off it not getting posted...

Re: Cancer, I would really encourage you to watch Griffin's presentation, it's not even an hour long. His argument is that Vitamin B17 specifically is the deficiency that needs to be corrected, and he brings a lot of evidence to support it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeYMduufa-E

He has a book by the same name with much more content and tons of references. Check out the reviews if nothing else:

http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/product-reviews/0912986190/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary/189-1492971-5012656?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful

Did you know that treating cancer with anything other than Surgery, Radiation and "Chemotherapy" is illegal? Did you know that Laetrile, a B17 supplement which was becoming increasingly popular in the 70s, is illegal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_Act_1939

http://www.amazon.com/Laetrile-Histories-Richardson-Cancer-Experience/dp/0912986387

I believe there is merit to alkeline-type diets (though if you have any specific references I'd love to see them), and Ketogenic seems effective as well. It seems that once the deficiency has evolved into full-blown cancer, restoring the proper diet and missing nutrients is not always enough to save the cancer victim.

I'd love for you to at least watch Griffin's video and give me your feedback. I have had a zero percent success rate at getting anyone (who knows how do think, as you obviously do) to watch the damn video and give me their opinion. I find it totally convincing, especially given other truths I have discovered about the medical "industry" (i.e. vaccines, HIV, etc.)

Ok, concave earth time!

>I've looked into concave earth and I don't think it's right. I think the stars are the strongest argument for it, but I think the reasons why gravity makes no sense on a globe also applies to an inverse globe. but tell me about it -- is there a theory on the system that keeps us at the ground in concave earth?

The way I see it, and Tesla described something similar, is that there is a "push" or what Tesla called "Universal Compression". In the concave model, the celestial sphere rotates above us, around which the planets and sun and moon orbit. That sphere, which contains all of the stars, emits an "ether push" that causes objects to accelerate away from the central sphere at 9.8m/s^2. What is the exact mechanism of this push force? Nobody knows, but gravity doesn't explain it any better. In the concave model, some theories speculate strong that the electromagnetic field that exists within the concave earth is causing this force - see for example, water being "pushed" away from a statically-charged balloon. This is an experiment you can do yourself at home!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWQ-r1LYXY

EDIT: Ok I guess in this video it is pulling not pushing, but you get the idea that electricity can affect matter it ways similar to "gravity"

>do you think you could take a straight shot through space and end up on another continent crazy fast?

In theory you could go "straight up", through the celestial sphere, and arrive on the other side of the Earth. That being said, we both know that humans (or robots) haven't gotten very far at all off the ground. Then you have the glass sky to contend with...

http://www.wildheretic.com/there-is-glass-in-the-sky/

>why is the sky not fully illuminated all the time if the sun is trapped within at the center? what do you think of the moon on concave earth?

Sun and moon in the concave Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBpM_g06rmc

Planets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xypm-XKw4_A

>how do you account for lack of measurable curvature?

Light bends in the atmosphere, just as the heliocentrists claim (but likely due to electromagnetism, not atmospheric refraction). Measuring the curvature of the Earth is HARD. There is not really a good/easy way to do it. Teed & Morrow claim to have succeeded in building a mechanical line that proved concavity, but their experiment has yet to be successfully repeated in over a hundred years. Here is a list of some of the evidence:

http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/

http://www.wildheretic.com/bendy-light-the-evidence/

>to me that you can always see southern star doesn't seem like a problem with flat earth -- because if the sky is a dome you get an advantage of being able to look up at it from where ever you are. like if you are on the ground in a giant stadium with a dome roof -- but tell me what you think stars can't be how they are on flat ?

It's not that you can see the southern stars, or the north star, it is that they are poles around which the stars rotate in opposite directions. In the North the stars rotate clockwise around the North star and in the South the stars rotate counterclockwise around the Southern Cross. This does not work on a "dome", only on a sphere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1536Fvjs8U

EDIT: More on star trails here: http://sguisard.astrosurf.com/Pagim/From_pole_to_pole.html

Back to you: how is this flight possible on a flat earth? These flights run by Qantas run daily:

http://goo.gl/flights/HTWM

Continental bloat on the Flat Earth:

http://i.imgur.com/gN0u6cv.png

There's already a better way. It's been used for centuries, scientifically proven since the 1950s, and cases documented and made public since the 1970s. This book changed my life.

If you're interested in understanding how and why this is true in more depth, I recommend G. Edward Griffin's book, World Without Cancer:

http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-Cancer-Story-Vitamin/dp/0912986190

Check out some of those reviews. For a briefer but still compelling look, here is the same book condensed into a 1-hour presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NNLs8llAY

It's not a cure in the sense of once taken you are healed (as you need maintenance doses after the therapy), but Laetrile / Vitamin B17 kills cancerous cells to a level where persons are considered cancer-free.

Unfortunately, it is heavily denounced as a quack medicine. Treatment costs at worst a few thousand dollars. That is nothing compared to tens of thousands of dollars for conventional treatment (treatment that despite of decades of research has a very poor success rate). Studies showing Laetrile favorable results are suppressed ("We won't fund your institute / university anymore if you publish that paper!"), and studies showing negative effects very often provide conclusions derived from manipulated data (i.e. removing or adding mice to control groups to show that there is no significant benefit in taking Laetrile).

I highly recommend the book World Without Cancer by G. Edward Griffin. Read the Amazon reviews!

Product Description
>Mr. Griffin marshals the evidence that cancer is a deficiency disease like scurvy or pellagra aggravated by the lack of an essential food compound in modem mans diet. That substance is vitamin B17. In its purified form developed for cancer therapy, it is known as Laetrile.

>Why has orthodox medicine waged war against this non drug approach? The author contends that the answer is to be found, not in science, but in politics and is based upon the hidden economic and power agenda of those who dominate the medical establishment.

>This is a new edition of the book. It is the most complete and authoritative treatise ever produced on Laetrile. It explains the theory by which Laetrile is believed to work. Case histories are included.

Also, if you are into holistic health and alternative treatments I recommend the Holistic Health Show.