Reddit mentions: The best slavey & emanicaption history books

I haven't read this one but it's been in my amazon cart for awhile! I heard a talk by a herbalist in my community who referenced this book in talking about this exact topic -- how feudalism was an essential component of that shift. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1570270597/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

A book I have read is Medical Bondage: https://www.amazon.com/Medical-Bondage-Origins-American-Gynecology/dp/0820351350

It's specifically about enslaved women in america and how white american society viewed these sisters as human capital (and human capital generators). It's not the exact topic either but super interesting.

I also recommend the podcast For The Wild by Ayana Young. She interviews a lot of awesome experts in areas of social justice, environmentalism, feminism, etc. I can't think of a podcast on this specific topic, but they talk a lot about remnants of patriarchy surviving today and issues around it.

The thing is you’re asking about a very broad concept in history, that has existed in various forms int time/space and narrow it down to one conceptual origin, which would not be doing history justice. Democracy is not a Greek invention, nor unique to Greece and certainly not Athens - the latter is just a particularly well known example and a lot of discourse has been attached to it. It certainly is not in se related to banding together against a bigger foe, democracy in se is not necessary for that.

Personally, I’d disagree with the idea that Hellenic democracy is not the ancestor to our modern version, not in reality. Ours is more squarely rooted in the Late Medieval representative institutions. But a love for referencing the classics is what generally underlies that link. While not necessarily untrue that we can draw on that example - that’s a given, that does not change that root of our modern western democracy does not lay in Athens, but in 14-15th century Europe.

The main thing with books though, is that as far as I’m aware this subject is less history and more political sciences, it is a discourse mostly handled by men like Max Weber more than say a Leopold Von Ranke. One work dealing with it in broad terms was Peter Stearns Western Civilisation., but that is a more broader work, dealig with multiple aspects of western civ, of which of course, democracy is fundamental.

C'est toujours un plaisir de discuter avec toi. Petite remarque :

>Grâce à la productivité des travailleurs occidentaux et à la relative abondance de biens dans les pays riches

Nous sommes extrêmement dépendants des ressources fossiles étrangères pour l'énergie, ce qui est pour moi extrêmement lié à la productivité.

Voir à ce sujet cet article de Jancovici. Et le livre de Jean-François Mouhot qui va avec.

It's already a good book on comparative religion.

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Transformation-Socrates-Confucius-Jeremiah/dp/1843540568

According to Robin Blackburn, a preeminent historian of the Atlantic slave trade, “[Locke] must certainly be accounted one of the fathers of English colonial slavery” (The Making of New World Slavery)

Very much so.

If anyone's actually interested in the slavery issue, or trafficking, I'd recommend reading A Crime So Monstrous- Face to Face with Modern Day Slavery.

It's pretty eye-opening, and also very difficult to read, but also has some very good points about why Western nations tend to focus on sex trafficking instead of the broader issue of slavery worldwide, and how politics plays into that.

http://www.amazon.com/Crime-Monstrous-Face-Face-Modern-Day/dp/0743290089/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265554659&sr=8-1

Skinner purchased a Haitian child for $50.

In Disposable People by Bales (http://www.amazon.com/Disposable-People-Slavery-Global-Economy/dp/0520243846/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265554694&sr=1-1)

He talks about how many of the girls who are trafficked within and out of rural Thailand are often given up by their parents for payments as small as $200, or a television set.

Human life, when beset by misery, is not worth very much in monetary terms.

As he said, it's still the case in a number of countries. While the book A Crime So Monstrous mostly deals with "invisible" slavery and human trafficking, it also gets into open human ownership, too, including in surprising places like India.

There are other forms of slavery today:

http://www.amazon.com/From-Freedom-To-Slavery-Rebirth/dp/0312143427

There's between 20 and 60 million debt slaves in India right now if you believe the activists, and only 250k if you believe the govt. It's maybe a bit out of date now but "A crime so monstrous" examines some of the different forms of modern slavery. It's a lot more common than you think.