Reddit mentions: The best trekking poles

We also have two trips for sure scheduled (one 3-4 day and one 9 day trip). We are also looking to add about 2 more long weekends if possible. My work schedule with being on call every 3rd weekend and limited PTO/vacation time is difficult to manage and coordinate with my husband's vacation/pto time, but we are making due.

We also redid some parts of our kits. Namely a cook pot, socks, & trekking poles. We are also still on the hunt for husbands footwear. Nothing is more fun to me than gear testing and shopping. :)

I have always just used my iphone for pictures. My husband does own a small point and shoot so we may take that along and give it a try this year. I always regret not taking enough photos on our trips. Especially photos of the people on the trip! I love the scenery shots too but those are less meaningful to me when I look back on the trip months later. I will try to be better about it this year. What sort of camera do you use?

Good luck bringing in new hiker friends. A tip to remember is to start at their level the first time they go out. If they are miserable the first time out you will loose your hiking buddy as fast as you got him/her. Help them be very prepared and it will go smooth.

I also have been reading up. I don't actually have a library that is close or convenient enough for me to use. But online information has been reliable and helpful thus far. Heck I find myself on reddit checking all the hiking/backpacking/camping subreddits more often then not.

I am so jealous of your hopeful 2 thru hikes. The AT has been a lifelong dream, but I just can't swing it with my current career. I resign myself to reading others blogs and various books on the trail. I have been hooked ever since I did a small section in Tennessee and clingman's dome.

As for your debate with trekking poles - go for it. That is one of our new pieces of equipment this year. So far I give both thumbs up. We have been using them on our nightly walks and now with our little practice hikes with full packs. LOVE them so far. these are the ones we are currently using. I did not pay full price. Ended up finding them on campsavor over president's day and got a huge sale price. Been using them ever since they were delivered.

I have also read a lot on the debate between quilt vs sleeping bag. So far I have decided to just stick with the bags we have. I have no need to upgrade at this point. The idea of a lighter quilt seems fantastic but the money required to save those ounces is out of my range for an "unneeded" product at the moment. I will wait until someone convinces me otherwise.

Kayaks are a ton of FUN! I am guessing that adding camping to that equation only doubles the fun!! I do not personally own one, but I have rented them and they are super cool. Don't forget your dry bags if you do bring camping gear along. ;)

Thank you for the great response. I am so excited for this summer it is fun to share that with other MI folks. Good luck with all your planning!

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Poles are life-changing. I know they seem dumb. I would likely still think they're silly if I didn't try them out of necessity after nursing an injury. But it makes hiking so. much. faster. and much more comfortable on the down. Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork poles are basically everyone's top pick, but they're expensive. If you're just hiking the PCT, I would go for something lighter, more like the Gossamer Gear LT4 (I have them and love them) - they're more fragile, but I've only ever broken 1 and it was definitely my fault, almost any pole would have suffered some damage. If you want a budget trekking pole to test whether you like it, I think these are what everyone recommends:

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Twist-Lock/dp/B007E0ZBZI

I think you can get the same ones at costco?

Anyway, I haven't done any of the PCT in OR or WA, but I live in CA and have explored bits and pieces in Northern CA, Tahoe, and the Sierra. Tahoe is my home away from home if I can call it that, so I love the trail as it goes through there and have hiked and skied parts of it many times. The high Sierra sections should be on anyone's bucket list, but can be so highly trafficked that you can easily find better hikes just one valley or ridge over. I'm also a big fan of California's deserts, but they can be a bit overwhelming to new hikers. A wonderful place to explore in the spring.

I've never gone without a shelter, but have used a tarp and lightweight bug-proof bivy on trips there. Using a standard bivy is a pretty personal preference, but it's definitely an option. I think in OR and WA, I'd be more likely to bring a tent or tarp with a large living space underneath for prolonged rain. You can sleep in just a sleeping bag for weeks at a time in California, nights are usually pretty dry. You don't want to be without bug protection until later in the year.

I use an inflatable air mattress. If you can sleep comfortably on a foam mattress, I suggest getting the lightest one you can find and cutting it at the knees. Otherwise, NeoAir X Lite pads are my favorite.

Usually I'm just wishing for some food thing, or fizzy drinks or something.

I've gotten pretty good at bringing the right things for the conditions and checking everything in my pack when I get back to make sure that it was useful. I literally practice packing on smaller trips just so I don't wish for things and bring anything extra. I really can't think of any non-emergency items that don't get used at some point.

Also, I replaced the Salomon X Ultra 2 with the La Sportiva Ultra Raptor and am a huge fan. The sole is less boxy and has a really great rock plate, the rubber is softer and grippier for climbing things, it's more breathable, and it just fit my foot better. For long distances on trail, Altra shoes are very comfortable, breathable and light - worth checking them out too!

Check out /r/PacificCrestTrail - people are posting their photos/reports of their current thru hikes there

A cat food can cooker, also known as an alcohol stove, is certainly a viable option. However, it is a bit more of a hassle than other stoves, which is why I would suggest purchasing a canister stove, like the MSR PocketRocket (there is also a knockoff on Amazon that is like $5 and works just as well, I own it).

Shelter wise, it really depends on if you carry trekking poles or not (which I highly suggest you do - I have [These] (http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422329248&sr=8-2&keywords=cascade+mountain+tech+carbon+fiber+trekking+poles&pebp=1422329248681&peasin=B007E0ZBZI) and they are awesome as well as a great price).

I highly recommend looking at a TarpTent. They are extremely lightweight and not very expensive for the quality you are getting. Note that many of the tents require the use of a trekking pole or two to set up, but a very popular tent, the 2P Double Rainbow, does not.

Sleeping system - I suggest doing some research on backpacking quilts (check out EnlightenedEquipment.com) and decide if that is something you would like. If not, and depending on your budget, you could splurge for an extremely nice Western Mountaineering sleeping bag, or take a look at the much cheaper but still nice Kelty Cosmic Down 20 degree. Lots of options here.

Take a look at the Osprey Exos pack. Very lightweight with a great suspension system and nice pocket design. You shouldn't need anything larger than 60 liters or so for a thruhike.

In general, take a look at the various subreddits here (/r/campingandhiking /r/wildernessbackpacking /r/campinggear) as well as BackpackingLight.com. BackpackingLight is a huge help with everything gear related. Register an account there and read some forum posts and don't be afraid to ask questions. Do be aware that many of the people there are extremely ultralight and may push you towards gear that you may not be comfortable with. Just let them know your skill and experience level and they will help you out, bunch of good people over there.

Look at people's gear lists that they post and don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck!

The Osprey Atmos is a more popular backpack than that Volt. Fit is really the most important part of this - so if you have a chance to try either on - that would be ideal.

• https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Packs-Atmos-Backpack-Abyss/dp/B077H252N3
  
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  These poles are better than the ones you have listed:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Aluminum-Collapsible/dp/B01L2HYPNW
  
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  The North Face Venture jacket is more popular / recommended than the Resolve:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/North-Face-Mens-Venture-Jacket/dp/B01HQSBER6
  
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  Skip the solar charger. A USB battery pack is way more useful. Solar are just too bulky and low charge for the effort. Get 2 if you really need the power.
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-Compact-High-Speed-Technology/dp/B0194WDVHI
  
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  Tent is really small and not a popular/quality brand. How much time will you spend sleeping in this? Every night? Have you ever slept in a 1-person bivy style shelter before? Where will your backpack go at night? I would not recommend this. If you really need to go this cheap (under $100 is SUPER low for a quality ultralight backpacking tent) - then consider Nature Hike brand. They are a knockoff Chineese company that's somewhat good.
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Cloud-Up-Lightweight-Backpacking-Footprint/dp/B07HND44Z1
  
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  That sleeping bag is garbage. It's super bulky and not very warm. The 32F rating is a straight up lie.
  
  I recommend this bag instead:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Cosmic-Degree-Down-Sleeping/dp/B07MD224VW
  
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  You also need a sleeping pad. Not optional. Check this out:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Insulated-Static-Lite-Sleeping/dp/B00UW7LEOW
  
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  100% skip that hammer multitool. WOW is that thing bad. If you need a knife - buy a knife. You do not need a hammer for backpacking.
  
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  The headlamp is great, good choice.
  
  The stove / pot / cook kit is okay. It's a popular budget option. If you could spend a bit more there are better choices. For example:
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/TOAKS-TOA-POT-750-Titanium-750ml-Pot/dp/B009B98FGW
  
• https://www.amazon.com/MSR-PocketRocket-Ultralight-Backpacking-Camping/dp/B01N5O7551
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Optimus-8016166-Titanium-long-spoon/dp/B0045UA8G2
  
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  Don't forget TP/wipes (and a way to pack them out once used), good wool socks, dry bags / pack cover, food bag, water bottles, map, first aid, toiletries, lighter, duct tape, phone/camera, and other random items. Plus clothes of course - lots of layers!

I was reluctant to try trekking poles because I thought I didn't need them and I had been hiking for years. To try out poles I snagged some Cascade Mountain Tech and I now really like them. Life savers for elevation and spiderwebs, haha.

For a cheap, but decent pair to try you could grab [these] (https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Trekking-Climbing/dp/B01055BZDA/ref=pd_sbs_468_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01055BZDA&pd_rd_r=AHB8XKJMJ4XVHCWDZ7TE&pd_rd_w=QLBlN&pd_rd_wg=UGPPr&psc=1&refRID=AHB8XKJMJ4XVHCWDZ7TE) ($20) and see if you like them. Cascade Mountaion Tech are generally considered the best cheap trekking poles, and you can upgrade if you do? I went middle of the road on those up above, and they're good enough to not upgrade, but saving 5-7 oz on mine with better poles would have been nice weight savings on something you pick up and put down constantly (way more than 5-7 oz in your pack). SO, my thought is, if you're not sure. By super cheap, and if you like trekking poles, buy nice and light YMMV.

I had the HV UL2 and ended up returning it. It was pretty darn nice, but I wanted something that was lighter, felt a bit more durable, and more flexible in terms of options for pitching so I grabbed the [Tarptent Saddle] (https://www.tarptent.com/saddle2.html). When I'm using the inner, on the saddle I feel ZERO need for a footprint, but I did with the Copper Spur, though you could always just repair... I also like that if there are no bugs I can pitch just the Saddle Outer Tarp with a ground sheet and total weight would be about 20 Oz. Either tent are pretty good options though.

EDIT: Added context.

You're not a fraud. You're helping yourself function better, and that is very important. With CFS its advisable not to push yourself too hard. After I accepted that I should no longer push, push, push through my exhaustion, I discovered my limits. I work within them and now have a happy and fulfilling life. I can actually plan things and attend 90% of the time now.

As for a cane, you can get something functional but cool. Something that illustrates your personality! I hated when I had to get one and kept putting it off. But I searched around and found something interesting and fun.

I now have several and they have become signals for my energy level. If I'm just a little tired but still welcome some conversation, I take an eye-catching one. People will comment on them and I can get some positive 'vibes' from others. If I'm exhausted and hoarding energy, I take a common darker colored one.

For men, they have some gorgeous shillelaghs and [walking sticks.] (https://www.amazon.com/SE-WS628-55HW-Walking-Hand-Carved-Howling/dp/B004UAP8G2/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_1_dp) They even have hiking poles that are great if you like to go for a walk. I use two like ski poles when I venture into the woods.

You'll be amazed how much energy a cane can save you when you can barely hold yourself up.

Tent: Tarptent Notch - $314, 1P, 28oz (w/ stakes), trekking pole supported

Pack: If you order the HMG Windrider from backcountry.com (which currently has a 20% off coupon), you can easily return if it doesn't fit; the return label is only like $7. FWIW I have the HMG Southwest and it's my favorite piece of gear.

Warm Jacket: I'm sure someone can explain better, but a fleece is better for active warmth; it breathes and allows sweat/moisture to pass through. A down jacket is better for static warmth; it blocks wind and has a greater warmth to weight ratio. REI Magma 850 Down Hoodie is only $109 right now and a good entry/budget option from what I've read. The North Face TKA 100 Glacier Quarter-Zip Pullover is a good fleece option ($55 retail).

Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech, there are a few options but the cork handle with quick lock mechanism is the most popular I think: https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Collapsible-Trekking/dp/B00XM0YGW8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542382742&sr=8-3&keywords=cascade+mountain+tech+carbon+fiber+quick+lock+trekking+poles

For shelter, you really have a choice, tent, tarp and hammock, or tarp and net tent. If you want to hang around camp, you might want a bigger tent. If you plan to do hiking, many people only use the shelter to sleep in, and go with something small and lightweight, like a small solo tent, or even bivy.

I would point you towards some lightweight hiking gear here. That gives you the option to hike off to primative sites, carrying your shelter and supplies on your back. You don't necessarily need to go to the ultralight extremes that serious distance hikers go though.

You could start with a tent like this or this. If you wanted to get more serious into distance hiking, you would maybe spend more on something even lighter in weight (like maybe 2 lbs).

In Florida, I like the combination of a bug bivy (like this ) and a good tarp (like this). Though you would need poles as well. Hikers tend to use their trekking poles (like these). You would also need paracord (550 cord works well) to pitch a tarp.

For a stove, I mean something like this. Those are inexpensive and work fine.

For clothes, you can probably use mostly things you already own. Avoid cotton and linen. Synthetics like nylon and polyester will dry much more easily and do a better job in the heat and humidity in FL. And if you are going to go out there now, in hunting season, make sure you have some things that are bright orange. The hunters can be more dangerous than the bears.

As for bears, you don't really need any special container. Just learn to hang a stuff sack with any food or toiletries which have any scent. Using an odor barrier bag as a liner isn't a bad idea though. They'll generally leave you alone unless they smell what they think is food (and their sense of smell is very strong).

For shoes, again existing walking shoes are probably fine for now. Especially if you stick to sites off existing hiking trails to start.

For now, I'd start with a less primative site in a campground in someplace like Ocala. You can explore from there (there are sites near to trails), and have an idea next time you go out where you might want to try more primative camping. For now, focus on developing skills like how to use a compass, how to pitch a tent or tart, learning usefull knots for pitching tarps or hangning bear bags, etc.

It probably is a good idea to have a sleeping pad right off. A RidgeRest Classic might do the job for about $20. You can spend more on an inflatable pad if you think you will be more comfortable.

You should get a good hiking backpack and walking sticks. You never know the benefits of a good set of walking sticks until you've actually gone on some uneven terrain with them. They are the best. I recommend these ones. I got a pair from the last RAOA bomb. They are great and super affordable. And you can buy various different feet for them, too.

As for a backpack, I recommend a light Deuter daypack. These bags are amazing and come in so many awesome colors unlike American brands. Are they pricey? God yes. Well, some of them are. But they are so worth it. This one is just $79 and it's amazing.

TarpTent and Six Moon Designs are the 2 that come to mind. You should shoot them an email with your questions, they may even provide special pricing for scout troops (some cottage manufacturers do). The SMD Lunar Duo Outfitter is comparable in size to many 3 person tents, but marketed as a 2 person because they're generous with space, and usually goes for ~$125 during their holiday sale (which should be coming up soon—I got 2 as gifts last year). They're made in the U.S. and have great reputation.

That should leave you enough money left to get a pair (or 3!) of Cascade Mountain Tech Quick Lock Trekking poles, or one of the Al or CF tent poles SMD sells (I'd get trekking poles since they're stronger and serve double duty. The recommended ones have been thoroughly reviewed and are currently considered the best bang for your buck).

Packs- Your pack is usually recommended to be one of the last things you pick up. That being said the Osprey Exos is a great pack and one of the staple packs you'll see. Wait until you get all of your gear and then go to REI or another outfitter and see how big of one you think you'll need.

Sleeping Bags- It generally won't get too cold so you can get away with a 30 or 40 degree bag. Right at the start of your trip it may be a little brisk so just have an extra fleece on hand. A lot of people like the Enlightened Equipment Revelation quilts. They're great and lightweight, but expensive and some side sleepers don't like them.

Tents- There's millions of options, Big Agnes, Six Moon Designs, HMD, and tons more I can think of. The Big Agnes Fly Creek UL 2 is popular and lightweight, its going for $265 online right now. If that's too expensive I'd say go for the Six Moon Designs Skyscape Scout for $125.

Trekking Poles- These aren't super important unless your tent requires them. Best ones I've seen for a decent price: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XM0YGW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Cooking- You can go the alcohol stove route, I don't like it because you'll end up carrying more weight in alcohol than with a regular stove. The BRS 3000t is probably the lightest and cheapest stove you can find. For pots just a simple titanium pot will work.

Good luck on your hike!

Follow the advice in this post over on /r/ultralight and post here (or there) and it will make it a lot easier for people to offer help/suggestions.

Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Fibre Flick Lock Poles are light, cheap and pretty durable for their price point. Note: Rubber handle is cheaper than cork handle. Make sure you get flick lock, not twist lock.

JetBoil (+Accessories) is heavy compared to other gas stoves. Alcohol stoves are lighter again, but definitely more work and require more patience. Going no-cook (not something I would do) can be lighter again...

Tents are traditionally lighter than hammocks, some people prefer sleeping in hammocks...

Good / Light / Cheap. Pick 2 when Sleeping Bags are concerned. Quilts are lighter (but aren't suitable for everyone, I don't like them.) Feathered Friends, Enlightened Equipment get a bit of love, but there are others out there. Need to know what temperature range you're camping in. No point suggesting a 50° bag if you'll be pitching in 10° weather all the time.

I'm loving these poles so far. Great price for the quality.
Kelty Cosmic Down is a great down bag that comes in lots of flavors. Not sure how cold it gets at night in Australia. A down quilt would be a good option if it's warm at night. This is a good down throw a lot of people use as a summer quilt.
Here's a great stove option that's a good price for the quality

As for tents and sleeping pads, that depends on how you sleep and if you're looking for a 1 or 2 person tent. The weather also is a factor for sleeping pads.

They may not be at Costco though, they really come and go. This is my recommendation as well, but I had to buy mine off Amazon (link). They did well when weighed ~250lbs and a far heavier pack than I have now; they lock really well and did great with a lot of elevation. Saved my butt on one trip and I definitely used them thoroughly.

Alps mountaineering offers a discount program for scouts. It is mentioned in a boys life Q&A section.

Steep and cheap has a lot of previous seasons great.

REI outlet too (also REI garage sales gir used gear if you have a store nearby)

Aliexpress is an option too for some things but you have to be somewhat careful and it takes a while to ship from China.

These trekking poles are great, you can sometimes get them at Costco too.

You can get by with coleman or ozark trails stuff as well.

I used coleman and ozark trails tents as a scout in Alaska camping every month. My gear then was a mix of military surplus, Coleman or walmart gear, thrift store, cheap gear from amazon, and one or two nice pieces like my sleeping bag.

What you said!

Mountain King trailblazer poles, fixed length but collapsible into four sections (packs up super small) 8.2oz for the PAIR (not each)!


MountainKing Trail Blaze Trekking Pole (115cm, 120grams) - SS19 - Red - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMW3RVM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_E0hTCbR9QYQDD

theyre great super light and sturdy poles. Used these on a TRT thru last year

TrailBuddy Trekking Poles - 2-pc Pack Adjustable Hiking or Walking Sticks - Strong, Lightweight Aluminum 7075 - Quick Adjust Flip-Lock - Cork Grip, Padded Strap - Free Bag, Accessories (Raven Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRQCENJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HU9nDbHQMW867 I used these when I was having trouble walking and they work great they’re adjustable and look like a regular walking pole great for short or long walks and great for the snow I’ve found

Cascade Mountain Tech trekking poles

These are carbon fiber so very lightweight

Cork handles so your sweaty hands grip a little better than foam

Flip lock adjusters = much better than twist lock

You'll get all the differnt ends to put on the bottoms, but unless you are in snow or are hiking on pavement you don't need any end on the pole, you want the hard tip. The big round ends are called snow baskets, you only need them in deep snow. The ones that look like feet are for trekking on flat hard surfaces like a road. The ones that look like stumps are for covering the tips when you are travelling so the tips don't poke things. Look up a few youtube videos on how to use them. Improper use will help you 10%, proper use will help you 100%.

I'm kind of in the same boat as you are. Started backpacking maybe about 2 months ago and had a ton of old gear. Carrying 35 lbs over 26 miles was no fun, and when I came back home to research lighter stuff I kept finding things that were hundreds of dollars a piece. I did a ton of research and found some good quality gear at a budget level.

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Tent - $70 - Geertop 1 Person 3 Season 20D Ultralight Backpacking Tent for Camping Hiking Climbing (Trekking Poles NOT Included)(Inner Tent is Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J9XWJEI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hE-PBbG3XQVVQ

Sleeping System (2 parts)

Quilt - $35 - Double Black Diamond Packable Down Throw with Stuff Sack, 60" x 70" (Peacock) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079YX2W79/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.F-PBbJ5R45V4

Pad - $40 - WellaX Ultralight Air Sleeping Pad – Inflatable Camping Mat for Backpacking, Traveling and Hiking Air Cell Design for Better Stability & Support –Plus Repair Kit (Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076PHYVD8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_60-PBbA71XR3R

*note I sleep warm and wear layers. I found the quilt to be good for 3 season camping in the temperate CA conditions. The pad helps with the cold and I'm a side sleeper so the pad is a requirement for me. YMMV.

Poles - $22 (needed for the tent listed above) - BAFX Products - 2 Pack - Anti Shock Hiking / Walking / Trekking Trail Poles - 1 Pair, Blue, Royal Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007YT854S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sI-PBb1S6HSMG

Cook pot - $11 - G4Free Outdoor Camping pan Hiking Cookware Backpacking Cooking Picnic Bowl Pot Pan Set 4 Piece Camping Cookware Mess Kit(2 PCS-Green) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQSHG3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fK-PBb0YKV8R3

I cook simple meals that mostly require just boiling water. It's also large enough to fit my soap, stove, and gas can in.

Stove - $14 - Etekcity Ultralight Portable Outdoor Backpacking Camping Stove with Piezo Ignition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dM-PBb3M334JD


Water filtration (4 parts)
Dirty water bag - $20 - Cnoc Outdoors Vecto 2L Water Container, 28mm, Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NQT5KP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_DN-PBbFGE74F0

Clean water bag - $13 - Platypus Platy 2-Liter Ultralight Collapsible Water Bottle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J2KEGY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CO-PBbZ2HXVZV

Filter - $37 - Sawyer Products SP137 PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System with 16-Ounce Pouch, Straw, and Hydration Pack Adapters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WG9AFW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1P-PBbX4F8JW4

Filter attachment - $3 - Sawyer Products SP150 Coupling for Water Filtration Cleaning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018NJC1A6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YQ-PBbDFGGM0D

With this water system you have the option of gravity feeding your water supply at camp. You can also simplify by just buying the $37 kit and just squeeze directly into your water bottle/bladder, but I find this setup more convenient.

After that, the rest are kind of up to you. Food, clothes, etc. I wouldn't skimp on shoes though. Look into trail runners or hiking SHOES (not boots).

Optional things I'd look into is paracord and a tarp especially if you're going to camp in the rain. You can also look into hammock camping which would be a little more budget friendly than the tent + blanket option.

Overall there are definitely cheaper options but I find this to be a good balance of price, weight, and convenience.

All in all this is about $265.

For poles I can recommend the Black Diamond Distance Z-Poles. I've heard good things about the Cascade Mountain carbon fiber poles, which are quite a bit cheaper and lighter.

Like a lot of folks here, I use an Enlightened Equipment Revelation quilt with a Thermarest NeoAir Xlite pad. Highly recommended.

Don't hesitate to mail order. REI simply does not carry some of the best ultralight gear.

Makes sense! Initially I was looking at $100+ poles, which I don't really want to spend. Found a solid looking pair on Amazon for $20 that seems more promising, if I do end up going with them. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YT854S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2VZTJP6N0Z6QL

Sounds good - will test out the pack soon!

Great info - thank you very much!! :)

I feel my need might be a little greedy, so feel free to ignore. I need these hiking poles, because hiking has helped me get into better shape. However, I still have a long way to go. The poles help propel you forward - allowing you to move at a faster rate, they reduce impact on your body - specifically my knees, they increase traction, alleviate the weight I'm carrying and even help me fend off bears (I do have bear mace now though).

A want would be these treats for my dogs. I use them as tiny rewards when training them and also in their toys/games. It keeps their mind and body's active.

Thanks for the contest, Marc. Third Matt.

Here's a gif that makes me laugh! But, I'm weird.

1. Not really a necessity, but I use them whenever I hike with a pack. In the Sierras (where I've done most of my hiking) sometimes the steps on the trail go higher than any normal person's legs do, so being able to use your arms to help out is a big plus. Nobody has mentioned this here yet, but they also help to prevent sausage fingers from all the blood pooling down there :)
   
2. I use these. They work fine. I've never used more expensive poles so I can't compare.
   
3. I've tried going with only 1 and it just feels unbalanced. Also, I never know what to do with my other hand otherwise.

I'm going to post a link to my gear that I have. Everything in the picture is about $800 total

https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/comments/arck5m/2019_gear/

Definitely shop around for sales. The Gregory backpack in my post, I was able to find it for $130 online and then they had a first time 20% discount that I applied, ended up getting it for $106 after S&H. That was with Campmor.com.

You definitely don't need to spend a lot on a water filter system. Most people here and in r/ultralight will swear by the Sawyer Squeeze. It's about $30, not really going to find it cheaper elsewhere unfortunately, trust me I tried. Tablets would probably work just fine to be honest, especially in the Smokey's. I did an Outward Bound 14 day backpacking trip in Pisgah which is next door to it and we only used iodine.

My sleeping bag in my post, normal MSRP was $340. I got it for $170 at an REI garage sale in Dacemeber. Saved a lot of money there.

For a sleeping pad, really depends on if you're a side sleeper or not. If you sleep on your side, you do not want to get a closed cell foam pad, which is that one's you mentioned earlier about people using them down to their butts. Personally I have the REI Flash insulated and it's comfortable and not too expensive. Another popular pad here and on r/ultralight is the Klymit Static-V insulated which is about $90.

For trekking poles, personally I would absolutely invest in a pair. Especially in the Smokey's, the terrain isn't always forgiving when you're carrying a larger backpack and they'll help with any stream crossings. The one's I have are these. Very cheap, but very durable. Definitely no need to buy $100+ poles.

Definitely keep shopping around though if you find something you like.

Try these cascade mountain tech poles. I have them and love them. I've put them through a couple hundred miles and accidentally stepped on them a couple times and seem to be doing great. Pretty light weight (about 8 oz per pole). I love the long cork/ foarm handles and straps. My only beef is that the tip covers fell off somewhere when hiking. But I've heard people bought them for as low as 28 dollars at costco in the northwest. When I find them at costco I'm going to get 4 or 5 pairs and give em out to friends they are so good.

Investing in a nicer down bag, or even a more budget-friendly one like an Aegismax, will also allow you to ditch the compression sack for even more weight savings, as down can compress more easily than synthetic.

It seems like budget is a concern, but it's really worth it in many cases to spend a little bit more one time, rather than having to spend money twice on gear you're going to want to replace (while I totally understand that whatever gets you out there, works).

Take a look at these trekking poles. They're the budget-friendly crowd favorite. Spring for the cork handles if you can. The anti-shock of the pole you listed is a fairly useless feature in practice that adds weight.

And yes, all the dry bags cost money, and add weight. Trash compactor bags are inexpensive, lightweight, and do the trick. I also like to use them to pack out other peoples trash on the last day.

Here is a much lighter, relatively affordable bug net option.

If you go for trekking poles, I can recommend this set: Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Fiber Quick Lock Trekking Poles. They're great, especially for the price :) I've got a set with the foam handles, and they're still going strong after a couple of years :)

jet boil fash or jet boil zip yes you can use an alcohol stove and depending on how much fuel you take it can be lighter than a canister stove. But the speed at which you can boil water with a Jetboil is incredible.

titanium spoon sporks suck as both a spoon and a fork go with just a spoon. The polished end on this one will reduce food sticking to it and the long handle can get to the bottom on mountain house bags.

I've never used a sleeping bag liner so I can't give an opinion on one.

For under quilts, sleeping bags, and top quilts I recommend looking at small "cottage" shops. I'm a fan of enlightened equipment myself. I think that is where you may find the best bang for your buck.

Trekking poles i like leki corklite but my experience is that you will fall eventually and there is a chance you will land on your pole. A carbon fiber pole will break before it bends but I have hiked with e bent pole before. I like the side lock over the twist lock because it's easier with my tent. And cork handles are a must for me. Rubber handles suck when it comes to sweat. Also you don't need shock absorbing poles.

Not Birmingham related at all, but because you mentioned walking:

http://www.amazon.com/Nordic-Walking-Poles-Twist-Locking-Collapsible/dp/B0016688JM/ref=lp_8982112011_1_1?srs=8982112011&ie=UTF8&qid=1462308702&sr=8-1

I think these are kind of weird, but my mother SWEARS by them and she is just a few years younger than your mom. She has been doing it as long as I can remember and it allows her to work her upper body as she walks. Also helps in case a dog comes after her...which happens pretty frequently for some reason. She walks 4+ miles a day, so this may not be the right gift for someone who walks casually, but was just a thought. I apologize if this is just way too weird. :)

I'm still considering the Black Diamond Z-Pole Ultra Distance Trekking Poles, they aren't adjustable. I kind of prefer that, but I don't know which length pole I should get though, I'm 180 cm/5.9 f ?

Also, good to know on the flicklock vs. twistlock. Here I would also prefer the twistlock (cleaner look and nothing sticking out on the pole). But I was a little concerned about strength, but it sounds like according to you that they're just fine.

These Cascade Tech carbon fiber poles are pretty great, lightweight at 1lb for the set, and recommended at their pretty low price. Currently $43 on Amazon; however, Costco frequently has them for $30.

Also, I highly recommend this Tillak UL camp chair. It’s more durable than cheaper options on Amazon, and slightly lighter, at about 1.5lbs. Even better is the Helnox Chair Zero, but it’s a little pricier. I have both. The Tillak is a little more comfortable, the Helinox packs smaller and lighter.

I bought some of these for my first set of poles. Andrew Skurka has a pretty good write up and for $45 I figured it would be worth giving them a shot. So far they have been great. Right at about 16oz for the pair.

Shoes will probably be the most important and noticeable thing you can buy! I'm a huge fan of Merrell Moab Ventilators.

Also, I like to use trekking poles.

I love my buff for keeping bugs and sweat off my face and head!

I've tried quite a few different makes of poles, and Black Diamond are by far my favourite. I'd recommend cork handles for comfort (performs well in all weather). I've got these at the moment - Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork Trekking Poles (Pair) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008V1HQGQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_HTB7wbQ1HSFWD - and so far, I've done over 200 miles, mostly hiking with them over rough terrain, and they're still going strong.

Cascade Tech Carbon Trekking Poles

Check these out. Have em and love em. Great budget option. Recently switched out the tips for some BD tips and couldn’t be happier!

I bought these 3 years ago and use them summer and winter. They're amazing.

Black Diamond 793661307143 Alpine Trekking Poles, One Size, Carbon Cork https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C51L06O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_w5z4DbXVX2GYE

If you want to spend some money, these are awesome too:

MSR Snowshoe Bag, Tote Bag for Carrying, Packing and Storing Snowshoes, Fits Snowshoes Up to 25 Inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LFJOI30/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_66z4DbY6CR403

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Yeah I'm thinking I might start with a pair of the cheapest trekking poles I can find to see if I like using them. From what I've read, I'm not sure I'll actually get much benefit out of using them since I row (leg sport) and I have good knees. There's a Chinese brand that has $40 carbon poles on Amazon that actually look like decent quality. Apparently they can sometimes be found cheaper at Costco.

I also saw the Big Agnes Fishhook UL 2 on steepandcheap for $184. It's heavier (58 oz. vs. 41 oz.) and bulkier, and I'm trying to decide if that is worth $100.

I checked out the HG Burrow 40 with overfill, and it configures a bit lighter than the EE Rev 30 w/ treated down (and is basically the same price). So HG is the clear winner for a treated down bag, but EE has a cheaper untreated option. Basically the question becomes "Do I want to spend $20 more for treated down?".

Thanks for the link. I was about to pull the trigger on the Cascade Mountain poles on Amazon that have solid reviews, these look like they may be better and cheaper.


Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XM0YGW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&th=1


Anyone have any recommendations between these 2?

Can any Australians recommend some reasonably priced aluminium trekking poles?

They don't have to be ultralight but prefer Al over C as they're for my mum and I'd rather they bend than shatter.

Introductory pair to see if she likes it.. probably used 6hrs a week.

Cork handle would be a benefit.

Not an "International Product from outside Australia" as I need to get them to her in the next 3-4 days

Found these Coleman poles but they're twist lock https://www.amazon.com.au/Coleman-2000016536-Trekking-Poles-Pair/dp/B002YXNEDQ/ref=sr_1_15

Doesn't have to be from Amazon.. not asking much eh?

I'm training to summit Mt St Helens in about four weeks. I'd like to buy trekking poles soon to train with them before the summit. I also intend to use these for backpacking trips around the PNW.

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So far I'm between these two:

• Black Diamond Distance Carbon Z Poles
  
• Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork Trekking Poles
  
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  What trekking poles would you all recommend?

I second the Fizans! I've had a pair since '09 and they've been everywhere with me with never a problem. They look pretty battered but they work as new!

My girlfriend has the Cascade Mountain Tech carbon poles and they are OK. Although they are not exactly heavy, they seem so after using the Fizans! They are also not as well made and I'll be surprised if they last 10 years without replacing the flick locks (Andrew Skurka has an article on his blog about this issue and how to fix it)

I find the flick locks to be easier to use.

I bought these a while ago, and really like them for the price. Andrew Skurka recommends them as his value pick, if that matters to you

these or these. /thread

$40 dollars. Way less than the black diamond and comparable quality. See andrew skurka's comparison.

thanks to /r/ultralight :)

Get some poles. You won’t even realize how much they can help until you try them out. The ones I linked are aluminum and do the job just fine, but the carbon fiber aren’t much more.

Also get shoes that fit and good socks. I prefer darn tough myself. Lots of cushion.

In spring the last couple years Costco has been stocking a set of Cascade Mountain carbon fiber poles. Work great, and I don't mind being rough on them.

Looks like they're on amazon now too:
http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Adding my vote to take_a_hike_pal - all the same for me but started using them in my 20's after an army injury. I use them for any trip now, from day hikes to 2 weeks expeditions.

Price is less of a factor on the quality but think about what is important to you - weight/pack size/material etc.

I used to use the Black Diamond Z poles until they broke on a trip last year and now I use these.

You should, most definitely, use 2 poles and not one - using one will actually increase erosion on one set of leg joints (hip, knee, ankle) and increase long term pain. Use two poles and learn how to use them properly (cross arm with each step), nordic walking style.

By the way - they are also great for lightweight shelters, I use mine for tarp camping and cutting on pack weight.

When I started backpacking it was in Boy Scouts 35 or so years ago- we carried everything. I am 35 years older now so I figure if I carry less I will have more fun.

Butterfly bandage and ace bandage are good ideas.

I am thinking about the trekking poles- I found some inexpensive ones on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1413740260&sr=1-2&keywords=trekking+poles

I am trying go cheap- as I have already spent about $300 bucks on on backpack/sleeping bag/base layer/socks.

UL trek poles my mother in law gave me for my birthday about 6 years back have been a lifesaver on day hikes and multi night treks alike. They're sold through Costco or on Amazon. Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Fiber Quick Lock Trekking Poles. They're $35 right now. Thank me later.

My personal recommendation, especially if you are in only OKAY shape, take them (two of them) even if you were going with 0 pounds of gear. They are worth it on your knees alone, and can help your pace. You dont have to spend much. But if i had to recommend one set it would be these.https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B00XM0YGW8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1485792994&sr=1-1&keywords=mountain+tech+trekking+poles+cork

Tarp:

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1538600945&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=ul%2Btarp&th=1&psc=1

Option 2 (more durable): https://www.amazon.com/DD-Tarp-3m-Olive-Green/dp/B005FPN7GE/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601289&sr=1-3&keywords=dd+tarp

Bug net: https://www.amazon.com/Breeze-Mesh-Tent-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NA9BU4Q&pd_rd_r=a541965e-c750-11e8-83ba-35492fd40af5&pd_rd_w=5VWOY&pd_rd_wg=3uCes&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3f9889ac-6c45-46e8-b515-3af650557207&pf_rd_r=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y

Quilt: http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-40/ (get a warmer one if you need it)

Sleeping pad: https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Original-Ultralight-Camping/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601159&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=thermarest+zlite+sol&psc=1

You will need trekking poles for the tarp/tent or save a few bucks and find a couple of sticks when you get there!

Trekking poles: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Hiking-Walking-Trekking/dp/B007YT854S/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601222&sr=1-3-acs&keywords=trekking+poles

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Pack: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-granite-gear-crown-x60

Thank you so much for the detailed answer! The link is not working though. I am assuming you mean these ones? Edit: Saw it.

I didn't pay attention to the weight of the tent. I figured if I was gonna get one, might as well get a bigger one but you're right. I don't think I'll ever need a 2+ person tent, perhaps this one. Also, just checked my sleeping bag and it's rated for 40F which is no good. Think I'm going with this one. I dropped the lanterns and the torches as you suggested. A headlamp and my phone should be enough.

I didn't put in a stove just to be on the safe side since I'm going through an airport. I added this cooking set with one stove, and I'll just get the fuel from a nearby Walmart once I'm there. I'm lost when it comes to the sleeping pad. Suggestions?

If you want to buy your own, Amazon has a pair that people seem to like for only $22. I haven't yet tested them, but even if they only last a few months, who cares at that price! Link:http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products--8956-Anti-schock-Hiking/dp/B007YT854S/ref=sr_1_4?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1457021640&sr=1-4&keywords=hiking+poles

The Amazon CMT ones probably include straps and the stock tips in the weight. At 1oz difference it's pretty much a rounding error anyway.

They appear to be at their best price according to camel3 also.

Looks like 70$ on Amazon. Are they still the most budget friendly at that price?

These are pretty popular over at /r/ultralight

you can still get those on amazon for $43 I have them and they are pretty nice

These are a pair of poles I picked up as my first pair. They are generally recommended for beginners. You should pick up a pair, they are great.

Not to be an evangelist, but trekking poles were such a revelation when I started using them. Before that, my hands would always get really swollen while I hiked.

If you want to try them, get the $40ish Skurka-recommended CMT ones.

But, as others have said, a lot of UL cottage companies will sell you carbon fiber poles for their tents if you don't use trekking poles.

THAT said, getting dual use out of trekking poles as your tent poles is one of the best ways to drop weight on a tent.

Black Diamond are a bit more expensive but the clamps are better: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Trail-Back-Poles/dp/B001Q4FG3A/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1381945784&sr=1-1&keywords=black+diamond+trekking+pole

Poles and a hydration pack were game changers for me. Not having to stop and fumble with anything to take a sip of water makes me hydrate more often, and the difference that poles make on your knees if you have much elevation change is amazing.

Osprey Skarab pack with water reservoir: $80

Carbon Fiber hiking poles, $20

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI
Just finished 70 miles of the Ozark Trail. Really hilly and rocky. Bought these because I wasn't sure I wanted / needed hiking poles. They held up very well, and I ended up enjoying them very much.

I mean you can tighten them by hand, but i like to overdo things.

Edit: Here are the poles. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EJP43FA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A pair of Black Diamond poles for $50. I bought a set for me and a set for my wife, and our knees have thanked us ever since

probably the same exact product with different branding and they get great reviews https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8?th=1

I just bought these and they are amazing. Also only $29 at Costco. http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

You can get the poles new!: https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Adjustable-Trekking/dp/B00XM0YGW8/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1570107038&refinements=p_89%3ACascade+Mountain+Tech&s=outdoor-recreation&sr=1-2

I have these poles and they're very good for the money!

If you are going to increase your hiking - Walking sticks are a great thing to reduce stress and wear and tear on your body.

I have these poles. I honestly can't figure out why some people pay multiple hundreds of dollars for a couple aluminum tubes. These are lightweight, collapsible, and work just fine.

If you're looking for a low cost trekking pole, I've always heard good things about the Cascade ones here:
https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Looks like they're lighter and less expensive than the ones on monoprice. You can sometimes find them at Costco for even cheaper too.

These are what I use and a good budget option. Basically you want something with cork handles to absorb sweat and a locking mechanism similar to these.

Slightly above budget but on sale right now - Black Diamond Alpine Carbon Cork

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00XM0YGW8 if you're in Canada.

Or, check Costco for them. They're cheap, light, durable enough. If you really like poles, look to upgrade in the future. But give those a go first imo

I got the highly recommended Cascade Mountain Tech poles from Amazon here

you could try these as a test-run.

The way I see it is: 4WD. They're useless imo on flat terrain but if you plan to do like parts of the AT or something similar, I'd imagine for most (since I think so) they'd be a god-send

I have had great results with Cascade Mountain Tech and they are relatively cheap compared to the more expensive name brands. They collapse and when extended have never had an issue with any parts slipping.

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https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Collapsible-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_10?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1549362983&sr=1-10&keywords=trekking%2Bpoles&th=1

Not sure if this is allowed on this sub but the Fizan Compact Trekking poles (~6oz each) are on massdrop right now for $59.99. They're worth checking out. I just purchased a pair a few weeks ago.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-fizan-compact


A cheaper and slightly heavier option are the Cascade Mountain Tech Carbon Cork (~8oz each) at $39.99
https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/

These are the costco ones, a bit cheaper and well regarded.

Walmart sells individual poles.
Here's an aluminum, quick-lock, but foam handles


You can also pick up a pair of the Cascade Mountain Tech Poles (aluminum/quick-lock/cork handle) on Amazon.

Buy some hiking poles man. They solve so much problems on ascent.

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

For the most part no. People often reccoment <this> and <this> as cheap, easy, and lightweight options. You can buy these at costco sometimes too. I think costco sells them for $20. also here's a review for them

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Only $40 on amazon

The same trekking poles are sold on Amazon for $45 if you can't find any in stores. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/

These are pretty well recommended for their price if no one else offers a trade.

YMMV regarding finding them in store. I got them on Amazon awhile ago for roughly ten bucks cheaper. Here is the link.

If you were holding off on the Cascade Mountain Tech ones due to price, they just went on sale on Amazon for around 40% off. They're now listed at $27, down from $45.
Link

You might take a look at these. No camera stud, but they're lightweight carbon fiber, adjustable, and cheap. They used to be carried at Costco but now I can only find them on amazon and the manufacturers website. http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

I got mine from Bay-Area Costco hit or miss if yours carries them. More expensive from amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EJP43FA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1501342519&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Cascade+Mountain+Tech&dpPl=1&dpID=31PAa8UOM1L&ref=plSrch

You're kind of where I was a couple years ago. After my research I decided to go cheap and get these poles, realizing that I would probably want a much nicer set later on, and if I bought ~$75 poles I would just regret it more. They're a great value at the price and I have no serious complaints given that. But I do now want something lighter with a better adjustment and collapsing system, so a good set of lighter z-fold poles is on my list. I plan to keep these around and use them as loaners for the poor saps I drag along with me.

They're in store only and you need membership - but I think these are the poles: http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

Same deal with the socks: http://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signature-Outdoor-Trail-Merino/dp/B00LFLOUI6

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473433137&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=cascade+mountain+trekking+poles&psc=1

Get that costco swag

Cascade Mountain Tech Aluminum Adjustable Trekking Poles 2 Pack - Lightweight Quick Lock Walking or Hiking Stick - 1 Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L2HYPNW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DTrqDbBSV9FHP

Cascade Mountain Tech Aluminum Quick Lock Trekking Poles - Collapsible Walking or Hiking Stick https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01L2HYPNW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WIKwCb9YFHRPP

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

https://www.amazon.com/Cascade-Mountain-Tech-Carbon-Trekking/dp/B007E0ZBZI

You can call your local Costco YMMV

My local Costco has these poles for $30 right now, and they are also inexpensive on [Amazon](Cascade Mountain Tech Aluminum Quick Lock Trekking Poles - Collapsible Walking or Hiking Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L2HYPNW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_I-TACb5TZEEVA).

Incorrect. The twist lock version is $39.99. The quick lock version, which is what Costco has, is $44.99.

Green Graphics with Cork Handle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_s8K4ybRHS6MNX

According to the comparison chart on this Amazon page a single pole is 7.8oz.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/

Why not just get a set of Cascade Mountain Tech poles and have a decent set of inexpensive poles?

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EJP43FA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2

If you do not have a Costco membership they are 30 dollars on amazon from Mountain Tech but with 12 dollars shipping.

Not sure where in Europe you are, but the Costco poles are available to buy online in the UK at least. They go by "Cascade Mountain" - here they are: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cascade-Mountain-Carbon-Fiber-Trekking/dp/B00EJP43FA

If for some reason that doesn't work, Amazon has the Costo poles for just a few bucks more:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EJP43FA/ref=s9_acsd_al_bw_c_x_1_w

Thank you very much for your contribution!

I don't think I will need water filtration system, as for kitchen system I will have to improvise something on a case to case basis, because I'm not prepared to spend a lot of money on that. I have some basic stuff already, and I will pay attention to what I buy in the grocery stores.

Trekking poles: after doing a quick search (in this subred as well), these (Kelty Upslope 2.0 Trekking Poles) seem to be on the affordable side, so I may go with these. I'm not sure I will need them, but you never know... I will also have a cheaper compass, that I have used before, and some traditional maps.

Basewear and down jacket: http://www.outdoorgearlab.com has reviewed some stuff that costs from $50 to $170. I will have to do some more research... Not sure I will need the the down jacket, but I want to have basewear... one newer knows.

I assume you and /u/fire_0 mean this one? Because it's $45 right now, and Camelcamelcamel tells me it's only been $40.47 at its lowest.

There's another one that was $30 but it's a twist-lock model.

This is on the .com version, the Canadian version is just....ridiculous.

Where possible I prefer to just buy everything online, Amazon is good and even with added shipping works out cheaper than NZ stores. Just as a very quick comparison, with little consideration of brands etc:

Walking stick: Amazon, Bivouac.

Headlamp: Amazon, Bivouac.

Up to you, but looks to me like the NZ retail industry is making a killing on mark-ups on this stuff. As they do on everything else.

I bought these for $22 a little while ago, and they're doing fine thus far. The main difference in the cheaper poles is going to be the way they lock. These lock up fine when you turn them after adjusting, but they do slip if you don't turn them tight. Not a big enough deal to me to pay 5x more, but seems to annoy some people.

I'll remember that for next time. I've already packed it all away, but I might drag it out and take some pics. My foot is pretty banged up so it'll be a minute. But Ill give you a short list :)

Pack: Osprey Exos 58

Sleeping Bag: Teton Sports Tracker

Tent: ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1

Tarp: Ultimate Survival Hex tarp

Mess kit: Mess kit and Mug

Water Filtration: Sawyer Mini

Tools/Defense: Note: Normally I would only take one knife, but I wasn't sure which I would prefer as they're two quite different blades. Ka-Bar Becker BK2, Condor Bushlore, and Bear Spray

Stove: MSR PocketRocket

First Aid: I had the Adventure Medical Kits Day Tripper, and then added to that with Celox and an Israeli Bandage

Trekking Poles: Cascade Mountain Tech CF with Cork Grips

In addition I had a few little things in a small kit; Ferro rod, duct tape, trail blazes, chemical water purifiers in case my Sawyer failed, bug spray, a small thing of sunscreen (which I didn't end up needing as it was overcast), deodorant, TP, etc.