Reddit mentions: The best tribal & ethnic religious books

Book list:

Nature and the Human Soul by Bill Plotkin. The author discusses this same theme of The Great Turning. Argues that people in modern western society are pathologically orientated towards adolescent things, and among our main problems is that few of us mature fully, and few of us can ever be considered elders who guide each other towards a wise way of life. He also argues that we historically have developed equally in both nature and culture, but modern people spend their lives solely in culture, and lack understanding of the natural world.

Future Primal by Louis Herman. The author lays out a big picture view of human history and how the solutions for the future we face can be found in the past among primitive cultures. He links his own personal struggles to the planetary struggles we face, and shows that it is true that the personal and planetary are linked.

The Ascent of Humanity by Charles Eisenstein. Lays out huamn history, and "how the illusion of a seperate self has led to our modern crisises".

Sacred Economics by Charles Eisenstein. Looks at how primitive economies differed from our own, and how we can come to a different understanding of economics and wealth in our own society.

The More Beautiful World our Hearts Know is Possible by Charles Eisenstein. Lays out a vision for what the world could be and how we could organize ourselves in a wiser way.

Limited Wants, Unlimited Means an analysis of the economics of hunter-gatherer societies by an actual Economist. Very in depth look at the different foundational beliefs and practices. This is the most scientific and in depth book I've ever come across on this subject.

Eaarth by Bill McKibben. Goes into great detail on the the stark reality of the effects that climate change have already had and will likely have over the next decades and century. Finsihes by making reccommendations for how to make a life on a rough new planet.

Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari. A look at the deep history of our species. This book presents an understanding about what humans are and where we've come from that I think is hard to get anywhere else, really great work.

Blessed Unrest by Paul Hawken. Very similar to the theme of my above post, the author explains how this new movement is much larger than you might think, and could soon become one of the largest cultural movements in all of human history.

Active Hope by Joanna Macy. On "how to deal with the mess we are in without going crazy".

Greening of the Self by Joanna Macy. An exploration into the idea that we are interdependent with the ecology around us.

Natural Capitalism by Paul Hawken and others. A look at how we can start a green industrial revolution.

The Green Collar Economy by Van Jones. Lays out the idea that one solution- work on constructing a sustainable infrastructure- can fix our two biggest problems: the ecological crisis, and the rampant poverty and inequality in our society.

Spiritual Ecology: the cry of the Earth by Thich Nhat Hanh, Joanna Macy, and others. Outlines a spiritual perspective of what is happening to the world, and how we can remedy it, rooted in Buddhist thought.

Changes in the Land by William Cronon. A look at how the ecology of New England has been altered since Europeans first set foot there.

A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold. This is one of the classics of nature writing by a great naturalist. I include it here because I think it fits, and shows how much of this in not new thinking. Leopold talks about his experiences in nature and from living off the land, and lays out his own 'land ethic' for how best to coexist in nature.

The Evolving Self: a psychology for the third millennium by Mihaly Czikszentmihalyi. Explains the authors view of psychology and how to find meaning in the modern world. Talks about playing an active role in the evolutionary processes of life, and linking that up with your own personal evolution.

Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimerer. Brings together scientific understanding, indigenous wisdom, and respect for nature and for plants, in a very poetic book.

The Future of Life by E. O. Wilson. Wilson is one of the greatest biologists of our time, and gave us many of the foundational concepts that we use today, such as popularizing the idea of "biodiversity" and the desire to preserve it. Here he talks about the future of life and the challenges we face in preserving the Earths biodiversity.

Half Earth by E.O. Wilson. Here Wilson lays out his strategy for saving the biodiversity of the Earth and preserving it through the hard times it will face in the future, by devoting fully half of the surface of the Earth to wildlife habitats. This book just came out so you might not be able to order a copy yet.

If you know of any other books or media in this sort of genre feel free to post it.

Ran said:
> It's a fun metaphor, but to buy into it I'd have to see examples of how the old myths had symbiotic interconnections like species in an ecology, and how the new myths don't.

I will try to expand more and make the parallels further, symbiosis makes sure that not only there will be organisms that will be better adapted for its niche but that they can approach tougher niches, this way different organism fill as much as possible of the living-space.
 
 

Compare that what the organism of a mono-crop becomes: a product, and a product means that his life purpose is to get the attention of the buyer and be consumed as fast as possible.
 
 

If we take a simpler definition that for organisms symbiosis is a mutual improvement in life. For an ecological Mythos(world of myth) we would have a kind of synergy(symbiosis) that improves in meaning for each other.
 
 

From my experience with folklore, Hindu and budhist myths, ortodox christian myths I have a gut feeling that myths improve each other inside these traditions and myths don't get obsolete but just enhanced. Even with that experience I don't have the erudition nor the space to expand this with examples and an exposition.
Keeping the ecological metaphor is harder to see how well was a place ecology until that place is destroyed.
Since is harder to show this synergy(symbiosis) with older myths I will try to appeal to your experience with the modern incarnations of myths: the meme and the mono-myth.
 
 

The meme has the same shelf-life like any product and it competes for immediate attention, it is a modern myth by many arguments and in even in theory and in practice they are found to be selfish and replicate at the detriment of other memes or the bigger picture.
 
 

More reading on mono-myth critique, an ecology of myths and integral(hollistic) "mythos":
 
 

Giambattista Vico (1668—1744)

Wandering God: Morris Berman

Communities of the Heart: The Rhetoric of Myth in the Fiction of Ursula K Le Guin
 
 

No release date for a while yet. We are quite early in preproduction.

Sure, here are some of the resources we used for research. I didn't yet get to go through all of these, especially the books, but I'm going through them one by one :)


Free books

• http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/srp/
  
• http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/sfs/
  
• http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22373
  
  Some nice sites
  
  
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Slavic_mythological_figures
  
• http://meettheslavs.com
  
• http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/SlavicMythology
  
• https://www.pinterest.com/pablozychu/slavic-bestiary/
  
• http://www.mythiccrossroads.com/europe.htm (bottom of the page)
  
• http://www.mythicalcreatureslist.com/menu/Eastern+European
  
  Books that you'll have to buy
  
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Slavic-Folklore-Handbook-Greenwood-Handbooks/dp/0313336105/
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Russian-Magic-Traditions-Enchanted-Landscape/dp/0835608743/
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Slavic-Faith-Rodnoverie-Yngliism-Book-ebook/dp/B00OGSQ4R0/
  
• http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_7?rh=k%3AThe+Slavic+Way%2Ci%3Adigital-text&keywords=The+Slavic+Way&ie=UTF8&qid=1422009000
  
  

These are all good books on the topic, and cover it effectively to some degree. The most famous book is probably the examination of Skinwalker Ranch which just takes it's name from the creature, and which doesn't necessarily explore the creature by itself too deeply.

https://www.amazon.com/Some-Kind-Power-Skinwalker-Narratives/dp/0874802385/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468140712&sr=1-1&keywords=Some+kind+of+power

https://www.amazon.com/Skinwalker-Witchcraft-Related-Spiritual-Phenomena/dp/0965601404/ref=pd_sim_sbs_14_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41E9Ejlcj5L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR240%2C320_&psc=1&refRID=BKS7D7CQDBVJ39H6FQ5T

https://www.amazon.com/Navaho-Witchcraft-Clyde-Kluckhohn/dp/0807046973/ref=pd_sim_sbs_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=316K5XDNPWL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR214%2C320_&psc=1&refRID=XX423BBAX3MPJFMDGVZH

https://www.amazon.com/Witchcraft-Sorcery-American-Native-Peoples/dp/0893011274/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=51QgGUKd1EL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR224%2C320_&psc=1&refRID=EQ8757NR2RMZQVACXQF4

https://www.amazon.com/Native-American-Tribes-History-Culture/dp/1492195227/ref=pd_sim_sbs_14_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=419fuLUq%2B0L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR214%2C320_&psc=1&refRID=XX423BBAX3MPJFMDGVZH

For two podcasts in a row, KMO has had JMG on to talk about his new book, Not the Future We Ordered.

This sounds A LOT like Morris Berman's book Reenchantment of the World written in 1981. They even used the phrase "Reenchantment of the World in last week's podcast! (edit not sure who used this phrase, it was possibly James Howard Kunstler, who KMO says uses the phrase in this World Made By Hands* novels) They also talk about Gregory Bates's study, and how it relates to our culture (as did Morris Berman in his book!)

Morris Berman wrote this trilogy on human consciousness, and Reenchantment was the first book. The next two were Coming to Our Senses and Wandering God.

I wonder if JMG has read these books, and just doesn't give credit for taking the ideas and repacking them, with a bit of peak oil mixed in.

edit Morris Berman in his books cites influences extensively. I learned about many thinkers/writers just through Berman's books. Berman is reviewing all these past thinkers, and then adding his own original take on the situation. He isn't rewriting books from the past and claiming the ideas as his own.

Mine too. Friday, August 13th. pfft, you don't know what you are talking about. Best day ever.

They even wrote a book about August 13th: "Day of Destiny: Where Will You Be August 13, 1999?" http://www.amazon.com/Day-Destiny-Where-Will-August/dp/0965782581

>That is a partially true but too simplistic explanation for the lack of development over the past 50-60 years.

It's simple but it isn't too simplistic. Colonialism leaves deep scars and generational power and economic issues. Honduran banana plantations still reflect colonial interests and an export in wealth. Jamaica tried getting reasonable prices for bauxite ores and was shut down by bankers who picked another country to exploit.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Rasta-Resistance-Marcus-Garvey-Walter/dp/0865430357 p.86
  
• http://www.amazon.com/Jamaica-Babylon-Thin-Adrian-Boot/dp/080520556X p.63
  
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocolonialism
  
  

Toasted Corn:
Heat skillet. Pour in Palm Oil, let melt. Add corn. Remove before burnt to a crisp.

Adimu recipes for Orisha should be something you learn from an elder that you have a personal relationship with. But barring that:

Adimú—Gbogbó Tén’unjé Lukumí: Revised and expanded English-Language by Miguel "Willie" Ramos
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ALZH4K8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Idana fun orisa: Cooking for selected heads - John Mason
https://www.amazon.com/Idana-fun-orisa-Cooking-selected/dp/1881244075/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1518121926&sr=8-7&keywords=john+mason+orisha

Não vou dizer apenas um. Mas os mais recentes:

O ótimo a elite do atraso de Jessé de Souza(nao li a versão atualizada)
Sobre a realidade brasileira

https://www.amazon.com.br/dp/B07N92TMY1/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


O candomblé bem explicado de George Maurício e Verá de Oxalá

Sobre religioes de mateiz africana.

https://www.amazon.com.br/candombl%C3%A9-bem-explicado-Na%C3%A7%C3%B5es-Iorub%C3%A1-ebook/dp/B016R0N7DI

2084 Mundos Cyberpunk - diversos autores

diversos ficção punk brasileira ótimo para conhecer novos autores

https://www.amazon.com.br/2084-Mundos-Cyberpunks-M%C3%A1rio-Bentes-ebook/dp/B07JNDHHMD


Doughnut Economics Kate Raworth

Para repensar a economia mundial

https://www.amazon.com/Doughnut-Economics-Seven-21st-Century-Economist/dp/1603586741


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A era do capital improdutivo de Ladislau Dowbor (Dowbor.org)

Para repensar o capitalismo e a exploração do trabalho

http://dowbor.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Dowbor-_-A-ERA-DO-CAPITAL-IMPRODUTIVO.pdf



An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations de Adam smith

Para se pensar capitalismo logo no início e ver onde que o Rio fez a curva

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3300

Dica o projeto Gutenberg tem muito livro bom e de graça. E em português.

these three are oozing with magic

The Power of Silence by Carlos Castaneda

Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East by Baird T. Spalding

Stalking the Wild Pendulum by Itzhak Bentov

You should check out the book Wandering God.
A nomadic lifestyle may lead to some sort of enlightenment.

The Phoenicians, Iberians, Egyptians and more were in America before Columbus. Read America BC or other books that have credible evidence.

http://www.amazon.com/America-B-C-Ancient-Settlers/dp/0934666555/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248244020&sr=8-2

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