Reddit mentions: The best underwater photo products

Thanks /u/lamic

I looked through your post and recommendations, it looks awesome! I know I really should wait for the Hero5 but I'm not sure if I can wait.


I started to put a list of things I want/need into a spreadsheet, to start looking at Price. I have Amazon Prime so I'm thinking about ordering everything through Amazon.


Can you take a quick look through my list and see if everything checks out and if I missed anything for "Basic" operations? Then could you make any more recommendations, or let me know what my next purchases should be?

• GoPro HERO4 SILVER- $338
  
  
  
• Memory Card Lexar 64GB- $35, Looks like the cheapest one between Sandisk Extreme and Lexar, Lexar currently is the cheapest on Amazon
  
  
• Batteries - Wasabi Power Battery (2-Pack)- $22, Read a few reviews and people said they like these batteries a lot. Should give me enough juice and let me know how long I can record with, until I'm completely dead.
  
  
  
• Protection Lens - $7 I really just need to lens protector, in the reviews people are saying some parts don’t fit the Hero4 only the Hero3. Or should I put the $20 version off the actual GoPro site?
  
  
• GoPro The Tool – $4, Like you requested and reading some comments it looks like it would be worth it.
  
  
• A basic Card Reader - $7, did a quick google search on best card readers this one popped up for best for it’s price.
  
  
• SANDMARC® Pole - $40, Looked up some reviews and people tend to like this one. It seems like is always recommended to have some kind of stick or holdable mount to start off with. Also could you go into a little more detail about mounting the GoPro?
  
  
• Pelican Case -$25 I like the idea of it being waterproof and I like to be organized with my stuff. So this looks like a perfect fit. And it will be an awesome case to travel with.
  
  
• Kingston 5-in-1 Mobile Companion - $35 I was watching some videos and it seems like this could be a cool little gadget to have. I would mostly use it for “mobile uploads to Hard Drives”. Working in IT I know how important it is to have backups, and this will let me get around bringing a laptop to the resort and other stuff. This is the video I’m referring too that shows you how to upload to a HD with out a computer.
  
  
  So with everything in my cart I’m sitting at $488 which is with in my budget.
  
  I’m still reading about the remote. That might be something we add down the line. I think I’ll be pretty content with just my phone app or getting the “waterproof touch screen” case cover too.
  
  Do you think this is a good setup? Will this get me going? Do you have any recommendations, or anything that I should add or not buy yet?
  

Do some research on light penetration. As you get deeper, you will lose more and more colors. To get accurate colors you will need to bring your own light source.

IMO, lights are glass are the most important purchases. In 5 or so years you will be shopping for a new camera, but (hopefully) your lights and lenses are still working well for you. Imagine yourself as a very successful underwater photographer. You can buy just about anything you want. Think about what kind of pictures you are taking. Now, what type of gear do you need to take those pictures? Do you need a lot of different lenses? How elaborate is your lighting and arms?

Now take a step back. what could you buy (within reason) that would meet your needs then as well as now? What things are simply too expensive to justify buying at your skill and interest level?

I did this and I imagined me with a top notch SLR, lots of fancy lenses, and some really good lights. After shopping around I found some strobes that were not (too) expensive and I would still be comfortable using them if I bought a UW case for my SLR. I also found a good focus light that works well for me and I could use in the future. The camera I bought was a entry level Olympus for around $500 for the camera and case.

For you, this plus a base plus a focus light would be a good start. Not sure where you dive, but researching wet diopter lenses to put on the front of the UW would be helpful for macro. Once you are comfortable with that, add a strobe. It will take a while to get good with your new setup. Next you can decide if you want a 2nd flash. As for flashes, I would recommend a Sea & Sea YS-D2 or something similar, but that would depend on your long term goals. As far as arms go, I only know what I own and I have not heard anything bad about any of the brands out there. I would recommend something that you can buy locally.

Hopefully this helps.

I carry a pro DSLR with 70-200 and a 24-70... the body, lenses etc... tip the scales around 9lbs so most people wouldn't call it "portable"

I also carry a Panasonic Lumix TS5 waterproof/rugged camera. Most of the time, this is the one I have handy in a pocket. It takes decent stills and video, but the best part is that I don't worry about it getting damaged from being dropped, or dunked during a water crossing (my DSLR is in a drybag in my pack if I'm going over water). It's great when I'm out during the winter, easy enough to use without taking off my gloves. I use it in the ocean when snorkeling, kayaking, ice climbing, really great camera.

However, today I'd pick up an Olympus TG-4 instead of the Lumix TS6. The TG-4 is a much better all-around camera, on par with most point and shoots now. But more importantly, it supports RAW format which the TS6 doesn't.

We had a set of GoPros... but we never really got any interesting footage. And while I didn't mind editing video, the audio was always annoyingly bad so I had to add a soundtrack, and mixing isn't my forte. So one is sitting in a closet, gave the other away.

I've thought about getting an RX100, one of my friends posts some awesome footage from his alpine hikes taken with the RX100. I'd consider one, but I do like the benefits of the waterproof/tough cameras.

Good luck!

• What's your budget range?
  
  
• What camera(s) are you using now?
  
  
• Are you talking scuba diving, skin diving (snorkel gear/free diving), or just dipping your camera rig into water (wading from the shore)?
  
  An underwater housing is going to cost as much- if not more than your camera. A friend used one of these kinds of waterproof bags but I wouldn't trust that to go more than a foot deep for more than a few seconds, max.
  
  A few years ago I picked up a Canon ELPH100 HS because it had a good low light response compared to a few similar point & shoots. The video straight out of the camera is really nice, sharp, and vivid, and I'm really happy with the images it produces. I got the matching Canon housing for around $200 I think, but it goes into a limited ("use friendly") underwater/snow mode that's simple, but it's essentially "Underwater Auto mode." An Ikelite housing is a little more expensive but it gives you access to all buttons on the camera and you can get a little more control. If you want the most control, check out CHDK - it's a more robust (less pretty) operating system that you load onto an SD card that gives you full manual control of your camera.
  
  Otherwise a housing for a DSLR/mirrorless cameras is gong to run in the thousand(s) dollar range.
  
  After around 10-15 feet deep, you lose all red light from the sun. The rest of the spectrum filters off quickly as well after that. When you combine distance between your camera and your subject to your depth, you're really working with a vastly limited color and light profile.
  
  A strobe reintroduces the full color spectrum back into your shot but the range is very limited, even with a powerful system. Strobes are also expensive, and if they're to close to the camera, they'll illuminate any fine particles in the water and cause backscattering. Mitigate backscatter by placing your strobe(s) on long arms (also expensive) so you're shooting your flash at a more dramatic angle.
  
  A lot of underwater photos are essentially monochromatic images of light and shadow, so practice shooting in B&W on land. Some folks use red filters, but I prefer to just correct white balance in post. Shooting Raw is more forgiving.
  
  Wide angle lenses are pretty common. Anything with a wide aperture is ideal. Water magnifies everything by around 25-33%, so a 50 mm f/1.8 on a crop sensor will be a really tight view. Something like an 11-16 f/2.8 is better, or a nice wide prime could be closer to ideal. Autofocus might be really important, but I haven't really used a big u/w DSLR rig much.

Sorry about the 6D! Hopefully the button that doesn't work isn't too important. I lost my directional buttons for down, up, or right. Only the "left" button works.

Luckily, nearly all the menus can be navigated by dials. Still a pain in the butt when trying to review images.

I was snorkeling with mine in essentially a heavy-duty ziploc bag. I had used it before on several occasions without any problems, but this day, I looked in the bag while snorkeling and saw maybe a half-inch of saltwater on the bottom of the bag. Immediately surfaced, turned everything off, let it dry. At first it wouldn't turn back on, but eventually it came alive... just without those buttons.

All in all, I'd consider that pretty lucky. I'd say there's a 75% chance that I didn't properly seal the bag, and a 25% chance it failed.

I'm with you, I'd much prefer a more weather sealed camera. I love taking hikes and landscape shots, so occasional showers are expected. But for 10fps, amazing dynamic range, dual card slots, EVF with good battery life, amazing video quality, in-body image stabilization, and working up/down/right buttons, I'd probably accept throwing a rain cover in my bag.

One of my favorite activities...planning dream vacations!

Ok, first, I'm going to Puerto Rico...beautiful weather, good food, and lots of history. You can't not find something to do.

I'll stay in Old San Juan for a few days to roam around the beautiful buildings, soak up the culture, and visit museums.

Then, I'll head west to El Yunque, the rainforest, and spend a day or two hiking around, photographing wildlife and flora. It'll help to have this bad boy with me.

After I'm done hiking in the rainforest, I'll head over to Isla Vieques for a final night in Puerto Rico. On Vieques, I'll make sure to view the bioluminescent bays... and maybe even try my hand at more photography with one of these.

And of course, the company. I'll go with my best friend, because nothing is quite like spending time travelling with friends. Plus, she's pretty much the most awesome person ever, with a sarcastic sense of humor, lots of energy, and always looking to travel. And she's also into the photography, so she'll be down with me stopping to take photos all the time!

Doesn't get much better than that!

I picked up the sandmarc pole a month ago and love it. i can't compare it to others, but it's much better than the stick I was using that I picked up in hawaii a year ago, haha. Makes it easy to shoot away from me/the pole and then flip it to shoot selfies. I had it fully extended, out my trucks window going 70mph over the weekend, no issues. The twist locks seem nice as well. No complaints at all. Here is a referral link to save 10% if you buy it from them. It's also on amazon with free shipping if you have prime.
Not sure if the link will work, but here it is out the window: https://38.media.tumblr.com/82fc1d14de6205e6b6a18763fe2a2861/tumblr_n9tgt8HFk51qeigmjo2_1280.jpg

edit: I have no expierence with the GoPole, so I can't say one is better then another, I just liked the price of the sandmarc, went with it and I'm happy with it. The wrist strap seems to be holding in there and the mount at the end looks just like a GoPro original. Let me know if you have any questions about it.

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Harvey did a nice number on the lakes around here and I'm skeptical to get the boat out. Still lots of crap (people's docks and trees and what-not) that are just submerged below the water since it's so bloody high.

The one lake I have 100% confidence in is currently closed until the 14th. Feelsbadman, but I'm still excited that we're coming up on Fall! It's going to be a good year for bass, I can feel it.

Edit: This is the FauxPro I bought. It's actually super awesome for the price. I'm mega surprised. Takes as good as video as my Sony action cam.

Cheap but effective. Probably best bang for buck.
http://www.amazon.com/Mobius-Action-Camera-1080P-Sports/dp/B00DP1WYD2


This one has great stabilization firmware.
http://www.amazon.com/Action-Video-Camera-Sony-HDR-AS15/dp/B0090EC5MS/ref=pd_sim_e_7

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Replay%20XD/RPXD720CS/

This one is great for motorcycles because of the large sliding on/off switch
http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/

HTH

Thanks.

Yes, I'm using a GoPro Hero 7 Black on a FeiyuTech Feiyu WG2X gimbal. I mount the gimbal on my helmet.

The GoPro itself already has really good stabilization and when you combine that with the gimbal, you can get really good results.

There's a guy on YouTube named Terry Barentsen that I'm subscribed to. He does cycling videos in a similar style, and he kind of inspired me to start making my own videos. You should check him out, he's got a lot of great content. Here's one of my favorites of his: Link

It'll really depend on how slow you need to go. A lot of cameras do 1080p 60fps, and that can be slowed down a little on a 24fps timeline, but we can do a little better than that.

For a full sized camera, you'll be looking at a Sony A6300 with a lens for $898.00. The A6300 can shoot 1080p video at up to 120 frames per second, so you can slow that down to 1/5th the speed. That camera's also good for general video and still images. The advantage there is Sony cameras are good in low light, and you'll need that when you have the faster frame rate.

If you want a portable solution, you can get a Go Pro Hero 7 Black for $390.62 that does 1080p240.

Prefer a camcorder over a DSLR or GoPro? Then you'll need to go with a Panasonic HC-VX870K for $647.99. That's also a 4K camera, but it does have a 1080p 120 fps mode, with in camera interpolation up to 240 fps (not sure how well that works though).

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Wiki entry on safe-cracking...

Best method: Drill, baby, drill. You will need a serious drill/bit but you might be able to rent one at a specialized hardware store/buy one with a money-back guarantee, etc and return it when done.

Seems to be what you really want to do is drill a small hole, and then use a endoscope/borescope to see if there's anything in there worth the trouble.

Once you find tons of money/gold/etc., feel free to then invest a little more money on a drill that can make the hole bigger.

If you have to get into it quickly, well...you aren't going to get into it quickly and not ruin the contents.

You'll need about twenty or thirty of these just to be safe.

And you'll want a drill like this...ten amps should be sufficient.

You'll want to keep switching the bits out every so often, even if they don't break, they'll dull quickly.

If you're looking for something which can go underwater, then you'll either need a fairly expensive and bulky underwater housing, or one of the few models which can go underwater on their own.

I would recommend either, the Nikon 1 AW1, which can go underwater without a housing. Though only two lenses are capable of going underwater.

Or the Sony A6000 and an underwater housing for it.

The Nikon mirrorless system doesn't have as big of a sensor as its peers, but they're very small and light.

The Sony mirrorless cameras are pretty awesome, have a normal-sized sensor, and are lightweight compared to a full DSLR with a mirror. If I was going to buy a new system I would either get the A6000 or the more expensive A6300.

Hope this helps!

I would ditch the GoPro. Now hear me out before the downvote. I love my GoPro, both of them. They are great for attaching to a bike, suction cupping to the side of a racecar, etc. With those extreme uses out of the way, in my opinion, it's a horrible camera. Changing modes is a pain, and knowing which camera mode will work best is a guess. For pictures, you can't even be sure you're lined up with what you want without the LCD or cell phone app. You can't review what you just recorded or took a picture of, so you're left hoping for the best. All this, and battery life sort of sucks.

For sub $300, you can pick up a waterproof point and shoot that, for example has 15mp, HD videos, built in wifi to transfer photos, a LCD display, 5x zoom, etc: http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-COOLPIX-Waterproof-Digital-Camera/dp/B00B7N997O

...but again, it's all in what you are happy with. I've seen several videos of people who recorded their whole vacation with a GoPro and they came out awesome. I'm just saying that myself, for the easy of using a decide, I would never depend on a GoPro.

My pond is 5 feet deep, about 5000 gallons, turtles, fish, etc. I had same problem and solved it by buying and installing underwater cameras and hooking to my existing surveillance system. With this setup we watch inside from the comfort of our tv.

I bought them from Amazon and had them up for a year. Super happy with them.


Barlus Underwater Camera 304 Stainless Steel IP68 1080P 2MP POE IP Camera with 16ft Special Cable Lens 3.6MM https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CY12ZRR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_DYE2DbWF76359

Here is a post I did with one of the videos so you can get an idea:


https://www.reddit.com/r/turtle/comments/dk55ji/a_little_res_action_from_my_2_males_and_1_female/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Good luck!

> how well this performs underwater?

You'll need a [relatively inexpensive waterproof bag] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dicapac-WP-S10-outdoor-underwater-SLRs/dp/B00169HXW2//ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=hybrcamerevo-21) or a [very expensive waterproof case] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Camera-Photo/Ikelite-Underwater-Housing-Panasonic-G7-6961-07/B01EJAP5JC/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492341724&sr=1-3-fkmr0&keywords=Panasonic+G7+underwater+case&linkCode=ll1&tag=hybrcamerevo-21).

> I'm guessing you have some experience with this model by how much you have said so how do you think it holds up compared to more expensive budgets?

Not this model, but I have been shooting with Panasonic GH cameras for over 6 years, starting with the GH2. Shooters are still making great movies with that camera ([this underwater documentary] (https://vimeo.com/200559856) was shot a few months ago with the GH2). My GH2 still works as well as the day I opened the box.

> I'm thinking in terms of how long it's life would be before upgrading again and if it would be worthwhile to spend more for the first time?

That's up to you, but sometimes "perfect" is the enemy of "good enough".

Again, hope this is helpful!

Most expensive item, a GoPro camera.

I would love to have this to catch all the great moments when I wish I had a good video camera that isn't a phone. Like when I ran a 5k mud run.

If I never got it, I guess I would be okay with that. I would probably miss out on some neat things though, especially if I have kids soon.

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds

Every side-by-side I found it appears to be more of a HDR type effect with the EK7000. Could be some rendering done before the upload though but if you youtube the camera, you will see most, if not all videos have those bright colors to it. Looking at the videos, I would definitely say it is nicer than the gopro comparison but again, I don't own either so I am not sure if there's some touch ups before the uploads.

With the price of the EK7000, if the reviews are good you can't go wrong for entry level.

Edit: It's 4.5 stars with 4,220 reviews. BUY IT!
Amazon Link

For 4 or 5 hours of battery life, you will definitely have to use an external usb battery pack and usb charge cable plugging into the camera the whole time. You’ll have to get a big micro sd card as well to capture all that footage even if it is at 720p.

A knock off gopro like the akaso brave 4 camera might be a good option because it is water proof. But you will have to buy a case that lets you plug in that external usb power supply, which will be default make it not water proof after all.

AKASO Brave 4 4K 20MP WiFi Action Camera Ultra HD with EIS 30m Underwater Waterproof Camera Remote Control 5X Zoom Underwater Camcorder with 2 Batteries and Helmet Accessories Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DD5JNS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TkC6Bb9CA3MHZ

With knock off gopro accessories and mounts you could probably get a back pack mount or something too so it could just be on your shoulder as you commute.

I think my black was only 250 or something (it was clearance to make way for the + models), but I thought the entry level gopros these days (same basic functionality) were pretty cheap:

just did an amazon search:
http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-Hero3-Edition-Waterproof-Housing/dp/B00GXKTEUI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1409331642&sr=8-2&keywords=gopro


edit: that keychain camera sounds fun :) but considering how infrequently I use my gopros.....

I just bought the sandmarc pole last week for my new go pro:
http://www.amazon.com/SANDMARC-Pole-Edition-Telescoping-Extension/dp/B00I1QVWX4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415850237&sr=8-1&keywords=sandmarc+black

So far I really like it. I wanted something small enough to fit in a backpack to take snowboarding or traveling. It fits the bill perfect. Customer service was excellent as well. I took it apart to wash after it was in some salt water, lost one of the plastic tabs that provides friction. I emailed asking if i could pay for a replacement. They said they were going to mail them to me for free.

https://www.amazon.com/DiCAPac-WP-S10-DSLR-Camera-Waterproof/dp/B00169HXW2

I would t trust this to underwater, but sand, snow, splash protection this should be pretty good. These are also good for photographing those color chalked runs and holi celebrations.

you'll probably get a ton of recommendations for the panasonic G7 with a reasonably wide lens to fit you all in shot, it's a really excellent little 4k camera for the price.

or if you need to save money for audio/lights etc, you could settle for a gopro hero6 or gopro hero 7. amazon referral links included

Let us know more about your budget for lights and audio, or if you have those bases covered already

I have an AW100 Link is the new model.

It a great camera for outdoors. I kayak with it and it takes bumps and falls well. Pictures are pretty good for a point and shoot.

I think the Olympus I got my mom is much better though Olympus 820 I bought her that because he likes to drop things and let the kids play with the camera. I know it can take the abuse and the picture quality is better than my AW100.

thanks!

I currently have it in a case like this -


FitStill Waterproof Housing for GoPro HERO 2018/7/6/5 Black, Protective 45m Underwater Dive Case Shell with Bracket Accessories for Go Pro Hero7 Hero6 Hero5 Action Camera https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0749DBX11/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rMSsDbCSYCBJ1

is an underwater lens better than this option?

Looking to buy a gopro hero 7 black.

Is it better to just buy the camera at $350 and then buy the individual accessories I need with the current $350 price? It looks like all the bundles are priced based on the $399 pricing, which means none of them are a good deal as long as the base unit is selling for 350.

Any after market accessory brands that are reputable? Looking for a small tripod and a rail mount and would like to avoid overspending if I can.

I'm not sure which one Swaggles is talking about, but the Akaso EK7000 is incredible for $80. It can do 4K/25, 2.7K/30, and 1080P/60. It also has wifi for live view and supports the same mounts as a GoPro. I love mine.

Edit: it's also a bit lighter weight than a GoPro so hopefully your flight times would increased.

To be honest, I would just go with spending a tiny bit more money and picking up one of these far more attachment options, (such as gun mount), and it's waterproof out of the box with no case needed. Not trying to say what OP has is bad, but Contour is a super reliable company and they have amazing products imo.

Nice deal. I'm getting one of these as soon as my tax refund comes in. Hopefully the sale is still around.

Edit: Same price on amazon, and B&H Photo. Also ABT; they have the best deal for me. Free extra battery and head mount, no tax.

Nikon AW110. The picture quality isn't earthshattering, but it's very solid for a point and shoot. The great thing is I've taken it snowboarding, snorkeling, backpacking, etc.

It can probably take as much abuse as you can, so you can take it on any adventure. And it'll snap (arguably) the best pictures of any adventure camera.

I have one of these

I think I got a mid-range model for like $150-$200.

IMO, you don't really need the phone/app connectivity, and the streaming. It's nice, but a majority of the time you're looking at video, it's on a computer, to edit it or watch it. So cutting away all that extra tech, form-factor is the next most important thing. I still cannot understand how folks can do things with those boxy Go-pros on their heads, guys show up to hockey with them periodically. Mounting it on a bike, that makes more sense to me. But for helmets, I like these slim tube-shaped cameras. They're out of the way, don't catch the wind and drag on my helmet/head, and get the job done.

Suggestion: get two cameras, of different styles/types to try em both out. A buddy of mine strapped his GoPro to his ass end on his bike in a group ride, and I've seen guys strap smaller ones to the pegs. Kind of like the idea of a helmet cam as well as a mounted cam, getting two angles from the same shoot. Amazon makes re-sale pretty easy and with minimal loss, I've found.

I have a ContourROAM. It's water-resistant (plenty good for rain) and idiotproof (single switch on/off). Records in full 1080p. There's a newer version, the ContourROAM 2, which is slightly more expensive. I'm happy with my camera though.

Camera, Helmet mount, and you'll want a microSD card (I recommend 32GiB)

Contour recently announced they're going out of business, but another company has bought all the assets and is planning to resurrect them. Other people like GoPro too, and I've seen people with those cameras. Couldn't hurt to check them out.

I am going to see Niagara Falls next month, so I also wanted to waterproof my camera. This is what I came up with. It just came yesterday, so I haven't had a chance to do anything besides open the box. The reviews are ok.

There are also really expensive housings that fit over the camera. They probably work the best, but I don't have the cash for that!

There are things like ponchos for your camera at the cheap end, but I'm not sure how well they work.

I will be following this post to see if there are any better suggestions!

This go-pro is by far the most important thing on my wishlist. I don't expect anyone on here to get it for me, but next time I get a lump sum of money that doesn't have to go anywhere more important, this will be purchased. I ride a motorcycle and for insurance purposes, catching my experiences on camera is vital. There are a lot of experiences (like my boyfriend's motorcycle accident where he got ran over) that having this item would've been a life saver and helped establish justice. Also, I love recording my life and experiences so I can look back at them.

My first gun was a Ruger!

This is my favorite pole by far! I own it and love it. I wrote a review on this sub if you're interested too.

What an arse. I tend to find lorries are more likely to scoot over and let me filter through, I figure it's better for them to know I'm past them.

I use the ConourROAM2 which is pretty good, got a 32gb memory card to go with it. I got it for £100 which seems to be bargain because the cheapest I can find now is about £170.

I have an earlier model Contour ROAM. I think it was about $140 and came with a waterproof case and some other mounts. It works pretty well and I like the shape better than the GoPro.

http://www.amazon.com/Contour-ROAM2-Waterproof-Video-Camera/dp/B009CN8X3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=contour+roam

Hey! We will have a solar charging station for camera batteries, camera protection and cleaning supplies and a place (out of the dust) where people can change lenses.

So here's a list of DON'T DOs:

1. Change lens on playa unless you are in a dust-free zone.
   (Change indoors, with fresh latex/serving gloves)
   
   
2. Shoot without a protective sleeve.
   
   
3. Walk around without spare batteries.
   
   
   That said, here's the one I am personally using:
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00169HXW2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
   
   Shooting with a smart phone isn't that bad either, as a second-perspective lens, if you feel you chose the "wrong lens".
   
   Cheers!
   
   Edit: Thanks so much and please spread the word!

Also, this is available right now for only $40 more.

http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

I know you can flash the update for the Roam2 for this camera and get 720p 60fps recording.....and since I Want to record my bike rides I was wondering which one you would think is better. Or is the go pro really that much better and I should just save my money.

Don't get something stealthy, get something super conspicuous. I never get harassed now that I have a big, doofy camera sticking out the top of my helmet. Amazon has some cheap Gopro knockoffs that work well for commutes. I'm using the $60 "FitFort" model, which came with a mount, waterproof housing, and four batteries.

Edit: This guy, basically

Hey all,
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Hero 7 Black. 
Bestbuy is $399 + $90 for 3 years of coverage. 
Amazon is $369 (don't ask me why or how) and $34 for 3 years of coverage. 


I understand the coverage is different (one is geek squad and one is asurion)


any recommendations of where to spend my money would be great, thanks! 


-Ross

Oddly enough, I've heard from 2 people that this was a decent budget action cam. YMMV. I haven't used it, but check the reviews. May be a good option. I would chest mount it and just enjoy the trip. AKASO EK7000 4K WIFI Sports Action Camera Ultra HD Waterproof DV Camcorder 12MP 170 Degree Wide Angle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HGM33HG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sHCfzbR0DEKX3

> I could understand the black version thing if there was a white colour aswell

But....

The naming architecture is generally Brand|Generation|Model.

So GoPro|Hero5|Black, GoPro|Hero5|Session, GoPro|Hero4|Silver, GoPro|Hero|HD, GoPro|Hero|960 etc.

The only exceptions to this are the Hero2 which only had one model in its generation, The Hero Session (which was formerly the Hero4 Session) and the entry market HERO, HERO+, and HERO+ LCD that weren't attached to a camera generation.

Looking for a decent point and shoot digital camera that can go underwater, shoots video, and is pretty durable. Something similar to the Olympus TG-4. Someone recommended it to me but I would like to compare other products. Thank you!!

Buy the original DJI Phantom (that doesn't include a camera), and buy a GoPro Hero 3: White Edition. This will run you only ~$680, and gets you full 1080p HD video. If you need the FPV (live video streaming from the Phantom 2 Vision+), then you'll have to spend more than $700. In my opinion, the FPV is not a necessity for the $200+ reduction in price.

Edit: the Banggood link says the Phantom is currently $889 now. I would get it. Like now.

Uk owner here:

I’d say best is either

1. https://www.amazon.co.uk/SANDMARC-Pole-Waterproof-Telescoping-Extension/dp/B00I1QVWX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=sandmarc+pole&qid=1565302371&s=gateway&sprefix=sandmarc&sr=8-3
   
   Or
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/GoPro-Grande-Extension-Official-Accessory/dp/B06XHJZLXG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=el+grande+gopro&qid=1565353144&s=gateway&sprefix=el+grande+&sr=8-1
   
   But if you want a compact one (which I don’t recommend for action shots)
   
   Either
   
   
3. https://www.amazon.co.uk/MyArmor-Rubberized-Waterproof-Extendable-Telescopic/dp/B01IGNDPKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=gopro+selfie+stick&qid=1565358026&s=gateway&sprefix=gopro+selfie&sr=8-3
   
   OR
   
   
4. https://www.amazon.co.uk/GoPro-Shorty-Mini-Extension-Tripod/dp/B0755G21GJ

I have an a6000 that I've used backpacking in Iceland and the Grand Canyon, and I like it for extended hikes like that. Check out my instagram (@summitviews) to see some of the results (about 2/3 of the photos there are from the a6000). But keep in mind that I don't use the kit lens.

For Iceland, I also brought an underwater housing for it, but I only ended up using it a few times because I guess we were lucky with the weather.

Not sure if this is proper... but I have a CamDive waterproof case for a5000 or a5100 I'm looking to get rid of. It's in excellent condition and used only once. Amazon page is here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013OX0UY0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i use the Hero3 Black Edition, There are three Levels of the Hero3.. Black,White And Silver .. i'd recommend the GoPro SuctionCup Mount... Have fun with your gopro and hope you get awesome Videos/Photos !

Check out my Video , kinda lame but first try :P (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ldkRynTtSM&list=UUoHooubQi9ryw9GENMaC3qg&index=7) this is with the Hero3 Black Edition with the RollCage Mount..

Go Pro smart remote is worth it. I have the 3 way pivot arm from go-pro and my only complaint is that I cannot mount the remote on the pole like some third party poles

This one is great and I recommend it. I have it strapped to my helmet. You should absolutely get something

https://smile.amazon.com/AKASO-Underwater-Waterproof-Camcorder-Accessories/dp/B076DD5JNS

Yes. https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Mirrorless-Digital-Camera-16-50mm/dp/B00HNJWU3G/ref=sr_1_4?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1467316479&sr=1-4&keywords=sony+a5000 and this https://www.amazon.com/Camdive®-Waterproof-Underwater-Housing-16-50mm/dp/B013OX0UY0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467316508&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+a5000+underwater+housing for $600 roughly.... Solid camera and housing and I bet you can get better deals than this, I didn't even tr to look and am from UK too.

/u/cyclegaz more than likely has a few ideas about cameras. I haven't had much use out of mine, but I've got an SJ1000 for a rear camera mounted on my rack with a custom bracket. On my helmet I've got a Contour Roam 2 which is pretty slick. One thing to note with the SJ1000 too is that it has continuous recording overwriting so you don't have to worry about too much data being recorded.

I'd love a GoPro3. Totally don't need it but I want to share my hiking/biking experiences!

A $90 knock-off GoPro called Akaso:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076DD5JNS/

It worked great. Took it down to 140 feet and worked just fine.

Pick this bad boy up. 1080p and alot less bulky. Ive had mine for 6 months WORKS AMAZING!
http://www.amazon.com/ContourHD-1080p-Full-Helmet-Camera/dp/B002QGSYZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301057355&sr=8-1

I got this for my 5 year old a couple weeks ago after doing a bit of research. There already aren't a ton of tough cameras and there are even fewer good ones. I think I narrowed it down to ~2-3 and the [Olympus TG-4] (http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-Waterproof-Digital-Camera-3-Inch/dp/B00UKV5E4Q) took the top spot.

The time from button press to picture taken was one of the other key things I was looking at and reviews said this camera focused fast. Scrolling through his photos, a lot of them are actually in focus so I think it is doing its job nicely. [This] (http://imgur.com/oPVuHPD) is an example image he took at a playground. Nothing special about it at all, except maybe it doesn't look like it was taken by a 4.5 year old.

Don't know what ops using, but I bought this cheap guy off of amazon for a shallow depth shoot and it worked perfectly well, although I was just nervous about it the whole time: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00169HXW2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fLiVzbGQEF1FA

the chin position looks like it gets in the way of rider's field of view. also people say this camera is pretty similar to the gopro and fits the gopro mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HGM33HG

It’s just a case and clear protective lens:

D&F Black CNC Aluminum Alloy... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W9FW894?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I hopefully plan on making some YouTubes!

I use the Barlus underwater camera and it works pretty well

https://www.amazon.com/Barlus-Underwater-Camera-Stainless-Special/dp/B07CY12ZRR

I have one for my goldfish pond and one for my koi pond. Now I can watch them on my phone!

gopro

[awesome hammock] (http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-CHDHE-301-HERO3-White-Edition/dp/B009TCCTSQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1377475911&sr=8-2&keywords=Go+pro)

[chaco's are fantastic sandals, they come in more stylish versions too] (http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-CHDHE-301-HERO3-White-Edition/dp/B009TCCTSQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1377475911&sr=8-2&keywords=Go+pro)

[Chocolate Coated Cherries] (http://www.amazon.com/Cellas-Chocolate-Covered-Cherries-72-Count/dp/B001FA1K2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377476135&sr=8-1&keywords=chocolate+covered+cherries)

I went ahead of purchased this GoPro pole for my cam.
Now the rules say the following:
"Regarding action cameras – yes to strap headwear or non-extendable handles"
This handle that I have does extend, however it has a locking mechanism where you have to twist it in order for it to extend. Do you guys think security will let it slide if I tell them it's not extendable? Was thinking of giving it to my GF maybe they'd let her slide rather some guy. I know it all depends on the person just want feed back. Worst case I'll leave it at the gate if I have to!

Sounds like you need one of these. ;)

Seriously though, nice work.

Was thinking the same thing.

Here's a cheap 4K Camera with good reviews that looks like it can be put on a chest mount of helmet, gopro style

Edit: It actually appears to use the same form factor and be compatible with all gopro accessories. How have I never heard of this before?

Did you know Amazon will donate a portion of every purchase if you shop by going to smile.amazon.com instead? Over $50,000,000 has been raised for charity - all you need to do is change the URL!

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I'd get one of the third party ones, the kind where you don't have to remove the lens, that way you have the cases protection and the default lens protection

Something like this where it's cheap enough to be disposable - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0749DBX11/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_I16-BbKVQRWPJ

Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah, a waterproof enclosure would probably mute wind noise quite a bit.

In that case, though the Countour is still a better buy.

Also you can get a contour HD off amazon for 129.99 with free shipping.
here

unless you plan on actually putting it in the snow, it will be fine without a case

if you are still super paranoid http://www.amazon.com/DiCAPac-WP-S10-Camera-Series-Waterproof/dp/B00169HXW2

Knockoff GoPro so you can get footy for the boys:

AKASO Brave 4 4K 20MP WiFi Action Camera Sony Sensor Ultra HD EIS 30m Underwater Waterproof Camera Remote Underwater Camcorder 2 Batteries Helmet Accessories Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076DD5JNS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_t750BbTNC0W5Z

(With $30 leftover for a memory card!)

I picked up a pair of these GoPro knockoffs and they're actually pretty damned good cameras. They don't have image stabilization, which makes them iffy for bike use though.

1, 2, 3, depending what the mount is, it's almost always more beneficial to buy and modify to your needs for a prototype.

Sorry friend,

My dumb ass didn't correctly read your question and was focused on the helmet.

Here is the camera. Came with lots of accessories:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HGM33HG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The next model up is $10 more and has image stabilization. Probably worth it but i do like the one i have.

Apologies for sending you a helmet link for a camera question.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HGM33HG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


My recommendation, had for 6 months works pretty damn good, have as a chin mount

I have one of these and it works.its a little difficult to use but honestly it does it's job which is keep water out relevant link

So, For an extension pole I was looking at the Sandmark
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I1QVWX4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1VFH6EEG1FD6N

Would you say the Dolica is better?

RX100 (any generation) plus a GoPro since you mentioned water (or the cheap Chinese brand action cameras are pretty good)

Emerson makes a Gopro like action camera that shoots 720p video and has a screen on the back. I mean for $50 you can't go wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/Emerson-Action-Digital-Camera-Screen/dp/B00AGMWWMG

I would also look into a Contour Roam

http://www.amazon.com/Contour-ROAM2-Waterproof-Video-Camera/dp/B009CN8X3C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368416283&sr=1-2&keywords=contour+roam2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SP-POV-Small-Adjustable-Pole-GoPro/dp/B00CKPADS2 this is cheap, I have it. Very nice

Hmm, that's interesting that there is such a high markup since it's Canada.

You might consider this one, shoots 4k which gives you a lot more to work with when editing (cropping etc), comes with a case, shoots 1080p 60 FPS. There's a ton more reviews on the US Amazon.

Both work with GoPro accessories, so you could get an accessories kit for CAD $15.

That cage is huge! How is walking around with it? It does have a lot of configurable space though.

I picked up this one here

if you're super paranoid, I know a guy who uses this: http://www.amazon.com/DiCAPac-WPS10-Waterproof-Cameras-190mm/dp/B00169HXW2/ref=lp_3350301_1_5?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1394514997&sr=1-5 with his camera at the beach, sometimes chest-deep in salt water that splashes all over

The ContourHD is currenly on sale for $149, it's as good (more sleek IMHO): http://www.amazon.com/Contour-1300-ContourHD-Camera/dp/B002QGSYZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312324227&sr=8-1

Just get a knock off GoPro or get an older GoPro used for less than $100: https://www.amazon.com/AKASO-EK7000-Sports-Waterproof-Camcorder/dp/B01HGM33HG/

I have the oldest crappiest GoPro and it still looks good as long as there is daylight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR0V1AJ8HpM

I looked over a lot of different cameras and reviews when searching for mine. I ended up buying probably the cheapest which is an AKASO.
Xiaoyi is also a good option.
The advantage over a phone camera is that you can just set them down and capture the entire room. The only downside is that the battery lasts for about 1.5 hours which is probably just right for taking BJJ vids.
Everyone rolling captured with AKASO

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HGM33HG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495984975&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=akaso



The do the same job for a way better price.

How lit is it around your car? You could get something like This
and put it on dashcam mode, as long as you have a car lighter socket that's got power it will record for 10 minutes, start a new recording and record another 10 minutes. Once the card is full it just goes and records over the oldest file. I have a 32gb card that holds around 12 hours of footage.

Would something like this work or is there something specific I should look for?

Buy a waterproof housing for the A6000. There is a nice $200 on Amazon.

Thank you! Is this the one? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKPADS2/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_2U5ezbSEAS6Y1

I purchased a Neewar Underwater Housing, if you're interested I'm selling mine for $170 CAD. It's only been used once on a snorkelling trip in Hawaii.

There were two different versions for $100. This one is the one I got. It looks like you ordered this one. It had been priced at $100 when I first started looking at them.

This is the one I use.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SP-POV-Small-Adjustable-Pole-GoPro/dp/B00CKPADS2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422395339&sr=8-2&keywords=SP+Pov

No problems with it so far. It doesn't extend as far as some might want it to but it's good enough.

I'm sorry for not posting a price, I updated the post. I'm in college so it might be a little hard for me to swing for a Go-Pro. I'd like to stay under $100. https://www.amazon.com/AKASO-EK7000-Sports-Waterproof-Camcorder/dp/B01HGM33HG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1494698605&sr=8-4&keywords=helmet%2Bcamera&th=1 maybe this one?

The amount of times I have seen this product mentioned must mean it is decent. When I get my GoPro I will be for sure trying it out.

http://www.amazon.com/SANDMARC-Pole-Edition-Telescoping-Extension/dp/B00I1QVWX4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415968172&sr=8-1&keywords=gopro+pole+sandmarc

For kayaking, you don't need the same level of waterproofing that you need for, say, snorkeling.

I use the Dicapac case on my Kayak, I unscrew the front when I'm photographing in calm water.

Any reason to buy a GoPro for $400 vs something like this for $90? I always assumed GoPro was the only real option but some of the reviews have me thinking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HGM33HG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482069570&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=action+camera&dpPl=1&dpID=51CozYtotxL&ref=plSrch

i just got this pole and it has worked well. with skateboarding swimming and kayaking.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I1QVWX4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought one of these faux pros after looking at footage online. its a solid under $100 camera!

https://www.amazon.com/AKASO-EK7000-Sports-Waterproof-Camcorder/dp/B01HGM33HG/ref=sr_1_7?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1488091903&sr=1-7&keywords=action+camera

GoPro Hero7 Black is $350 new from amazon


https://www.amazon.com/GoPro-HERO7-Black-Waterproof-Streaming-Stabilization/dp/B07GDGZCCH

contour roam at amazon for $109.00
http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375483347&sr=8-1&keywords=contour+roam

The mobile amazon page?

Here's the normal site

Camera is the EK7000 i bought for vacation on Amazon last year.

Mount is one of these GoPro chin mounts

There are a lot of Action Cameras on Amazon under $100. I have never tried one out myself, but you may be able to search the reviews or see if anyone has tried them out. Something such as this

Bought one for my trip to Crete. I did everything they suggest to leak testing and proper loading and sealing. Although I did an extra step of letting it sit in the bathtub overnight empty to guarantee that it was watertight. I took it snorkeling, when I finished it was bone dry inside. I bought the larger one for DSLRs and I would recommend it. It is a much cheaper alternative to the next in line for waterproof housings.


It was this one. http://www.amazon.com/DiCAPac-WPS10-Waterproof-Cameras-190mm/dp/B00169HXW2/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314271019&sr=1-3

I bought the rectangular SJCAM SJ4000 in Nov and have been using it as a dashcam and action cam on my bikes with no problems. Yes it is a direct GoPro knock off but the fact that others are knocking it off shows its merits. From an earlier post:

> A GoPro 3 camera and k-edge Go Big mount will set one back $300... (and look great)

> I just needed a cheap dashcam so after some research I replicated this setup for $100. I use the SJcam 4000 mounted low, front and centre with a dx.com handlebar mount. [both setups produce 1080p 30fps video max]

If it's the waterproof case for the GoPro that is broken then just get a new one here is a 3rd party one from Amazon. https://www.amazon.ca/FitStill-Waterproof-Protective-Underwater-Accessories/dp/B0749DBX11/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1527735546&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=gopro+waterproof+case&psc=1

Or just go for the Hero 7 Black for the extra $30 over budget. Totally worth it for the stabilization alone.

I have a Contour Roam 2 and it is suitable for what you want: AMAZON. It's not the latest model, but it's only $100.

You could use your phones inside the car and shoot in 4K.

For external, you could get some cheap GoPro knock offs for outside (something like this):

AKASO EK7000 4K WiFi Sports Action Camera Ultra HD Waterproof DV Camcorder 12MP 170 Degree Wide Angle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HGM33HG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1N1ACbPMXZ8SQ

Here is the model I got; it went on sale for $65.

Akaso Underwater Waterproof Camera

https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Underwater-Housing-Waterproof-16-50mm/dp/B00NWBLFP8

Actually the Hero3 White edition is $199.99 on Amazon, I've wanted a gopro for a long time, specially since you can use it in your car too.

and this comes with a waterproof case for $10 more. http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370279214&sr=8-2&keywords=contour

Amazon has it too if you rather buy it from them.

Pricing: less than $150

Having seen this post I'm considering pulling the trigger myself..

> http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-CHDHA-301-HERO/dp/B00NIYNUXO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1413991836&sr=8-4&keywords=go+pro

Claramente tendría que comprarse la versión argentina

Looks to be sub $100..
https://smile.amazon.com/AKASO-EK7000-Sports-Waterproof-Camcorder/dp/B01HGM33HG?sa-no-redirect=1

For a while I used an older Android phone as a dashcam and just recently bought the Gear Pro. Below are some alternatives:

• Go Pro $198 Prime
  
  
• Contour Roam $125 Prime
  
  
• Gear Pro $45 Prime

Since the a6000 is not weather sealed, here's a few items to consider when you're taking it into the elements...

Silicone body armor, http://www.ebay.com/itm/V303-Silicone-Armor-Skin-Case-Bag-Camera-Cover-Protector-for-Sony-Alpha-A6000-/381054955448?hash=item58b8a52fb8:g:EdQAAOSwofxUbNzs

Lenscoat Body Guard, http://www.ebay.com/itm/LensCoat-LCBGPCBBK-BodyGuard-Pro-CB-Clear-Back-Black/361448622955?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D6b043cce2ed14037916b769d8173d3cf%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D401046370107

And of course, a waterproof case, http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Underwater-Housing-Waterproof-16-50mm/dp/B00NWBLFP8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453494444&sr=8-1

Birthday! Go [skydiving!] (http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-CHDHE-301-HERO3-White-Edition/dp/B009TCCTSQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1375568184&sr=1-2&keywords=gopro) <<< Thats for recording memories.

It's a GoPro Black 7.

Cost Breakdown:

GoPro Black 7: $349

256 GB SD Card: $45

Mount Kit off Amazon: $22

https://www.amazon.com/GoPro-HERO7-Black-Waterproof-Streaming-Stabilization/dp/B07GDGZCCH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gopro+7&qid=1554347005&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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and

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https://www.amazon.com/Kupton-Housing-Waterproof-Protective-Accessories/dp/B01M4I7RKG/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=gopro+7+case&qid=1554347061&s=gateway&sr=8-5

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and

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https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Strap-Camera-Mount-GoPro/dp/B00R4YCKIK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1K9EB29H58J83&keywords=gopro+head+strap&qid=1554347019&s=gateway&sprefix=gopro+head%2Caps%2C206&sr=8-5

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I use a version of this when I take my D750 to the beach..or the color run..or the mud run...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00169HXW2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1465265764&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=nikon+waterproof+case&dpPl=1&dpID=51CA8h5JWZL&ref=plSrch#

I needed one for a few projects inside the house and got just the camera with a USB connection. Not self-contained and portable, but a bigger screen when plugged into the notebook, a far longer cable, and much cheaper.

If I were interested in this, how would the normal transaction process take place?

According to the Amazon reviews, this unit has a high fail rate. I'm concerned that this may be a dud even though you haven't opened it. If it is, the extra $30 spent on Amazon for the product may be worth the "insurance" of being able to return it.

I didn't buy a back up, I bought an upgrade and then my regular camera became my back up.

I did buy a discontinued version of the Olympus Tough camera to take on some foreign travel when I didn't want my DSLR (and it ended up raining a lot so the waterproofness was nice) and it could withstand the beach and hiking and stuff. https://www.amazon.com/Olympus-Waterproof-Digital-Camera-3-Inch/dp/B00UKV5E4Q

I just bought a ContourHD from amazon for 100 dollars:

http://www.amazon.com/Contour-1300-ContourHD-Helmet-Camera/dp/B002QGSYZ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320071978&sr=8-1

They are selling really cheap right now because the company just released a bunch of new ones with features I don't care about (submersible, GPS tracking, etc).

But this one has 1080P HD at 30fps and 720P at 60FPS, along with a removable battery. The new versions have an integrated battery, so the entire unit needs to be charged.

This is the ultimate solution if water damage is your concern: http://amzn.com/B00NWBLFP8

I got [THESE](https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Travel-Packing-Cubes-Set/dp/B01MD1P3V4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493584072&sr=8-3
) and used the one slated for shoes.

I packed around it with smaller clothing for safety while in the air, and for most of the trip I had my DSLR out, I used one of THESE around my camera while it was out.

I have a Nikon D7000 for a camera, and I use THIS as my travel lens with a UV filter, but no hood for this trip because it was in the waterproof case.

If they were real, why would they be sold so cheaply?

Of course nobody will sell you a $399 electronic device for $100.

Amazon has it at $325:

https://www.amazon.com/GoPro-HERO7-Black-Waterproof-Streaming-Stabilization/dp/B07GDGZCCH/

Whatever you are getting for $100 is NOT a GoPro Hero 7 Black.

EDIT: My thanks to /u/128Gigabytes for correcting me - I misread the OP's post.

They MAY be real at $299... but there is no way to tell from all the way over here.

$377+$50+$30+$8+$27+7% = $526 - $350 = $176. Lazy or not, your better off retruning that stuff.

I'm looking at purchasing the same, do you have/know someone with a postage/drug scale and weigh the camera? My hope is I can replace the syma cam with [this cheap "4K" cam. ](AKASO EK7000 4K WIFI Sports Action Camera Ultra HD Waterproof DV Camcorder 12MP 170 Degree Wide Angle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HGM33HG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JxQBybSXHKCES)

Has anyone tried/thought if this modification?

Edit: BTW, I received a syma for Christmas that looks exactly like X8g (was Red) but the action cam could link up to my phone for fpv (camera looked the same as other x8g's) the problem was the nuts/caps that secure rotors had no threads, only "pressed" onto rotor shaft loose enough that one would fly off as soon as motors fired up - causing the blade to do the same. I returned the drone to Costco and continued to search the web for a replacement until I decided to get the x8g on Amazon (basically the same minus fpv feature). Oddly, I was unable to find the Costco model ANYWHERE online.

So 2 questions:
1.) does your x8g have any similar issues? How are the "caps" on yours?
2.) does anyone know if Costco sells defective merchandise sometimes, almost like a Nike outlet?