Reddit mentions of Breville BDC650BSS Grind Control Coffee Maker, Brushed Stainless Steel

Probably this

Fair warning it’s a lot bigger in person


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Edit: I feel obliged to say if you can sacrifice a “bit” of convenience I would recommend a separated grinder as they usually last longer and if one fails you still have the other. The “baratza encore” is the gold standard if you want something that will last forever and make great drip/French press

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BDC650BSS-Control-Silver-Medium/dp/B00VGGVQCI/

If you want something that will grind the beans fresh every time you brew, is easy to clean, and will make enough coffee for 4 people in a household jacked up on caffeine.

This machine was in one of the AirBNB's my company rented for our quarterly meetup, and it was fantastic. Put beans in, select grind size, select amount of cups of coffee, and brew strength. Coffee tasted great too.

I have the previous iteration of this model from Breville.

Going on 6 years. The grinder needs cleaning once a year or so, but overall, I'm not sure I could be happier with a coffee maker.

So, just to start off with you may get some pushback from people here since the majority do a more manual process. I can appreciate that you want something simple like the Keurig though, because many people like the simplicity and convenience, and aren't nearly as fanatical about their coffee.

An AeroPress is what I'd recommend for a cheap single serve coffee maker, coupled with the freshest pre-ground coffee you can get. However if you want a machine I'd suggest what my office has, a Breville drip machine with built in grinder. Can do single serving or carafe. Couple with fresh whole bean coffee.

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BDC650BSS-Control-Silver-Medium/dp/B00VGGVQCI

If the price is off-putting, you'll save in the long run compared to plastic pod coffee.

It looks like the machine that will best meet your criteria is the Breville Grind Control. Supposed to be one of the better grind & brew machines and allows you to make 1 cup or a pot.

That said, a Baratza grinder and a good auto-drip machine like a Bonavita or a Technivorm are going to make you a much better cup day in and day out. Grind and brews, you are sacrificing quality on both sides, particularly the grinder, and if anything breaks then you are potentially out of luck. Grinders require some maintenance, and parts do wear out periodically. On a Baratza, you can get cheap replacement parts and customer service will help you solve the problem.

Closest thing to a grind-and-brew machine will be the Breville GrindControl. What you ask for, at a "cheap" price doesn't really exist. It doesn't really exist at an expensive price point.

I found a couple drip machines that have built in burr grinders, so I think I'm going to recommend those to him:

https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BDC650BSS-Grind-Control-Silver/dp/B00VGGVQCI/

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DGB-900BC-Thermal-Automatic-Coffeemaker/dp/B000T9XPHC/

How big your office? Once the CEO decided he wanted lattes, we got a superautomatic espresso machine that simulates regular coffee also (by basically pulling giant americanos).

It's been solid but it ain't cheap, and we have about 10 people. If we had 50 it would be a pain mostly because of water and bean refills, but there are bigger hoppers and plumbed-in options that would fix that. And yes, someone (me) definitely has to be in charge of maintenance.

For our other offices that don't need the milk foaming, I picked out this, but we haven't ordered it yet. Key feature is still being able to brew single cups, since people have an aversion to carafes for some reason now that Keurig has taken over the world - http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BDC650BSS-Grind-Control-Silver/dp/B00VGGVQCI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_79_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41Jor5FSI1L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1BJBS34MQYF0GB0FS4RT

thank you for actually trying to be helpful!

That is certainly closer in both function and price than most suggestions I got.

I'm still having a bit of a hard time justifying it over something like this Especially considering that even if it breaks in half the time (unlikely) I can replace it and still barely come in over the original price of the cheaper Gaggia.

Also it makes coffee like coffee, not watered down espresso. Which seems like way more of a difference than people are making it out to be.

I'm not trying to be rude, I just haven't seen the justifications yet.

Sorry, I had a feeling that people would want more justification for why I think it's a scam but I posted this on mobile before bed. I'll add more reasons why I think it's fake below.

• He is clearly talented at video editing. This raises suspicions that he was able to fake his videos (including his "un-edited" video) using computer models.
  
  EDIT:
  People seem to be taking this bullet point the wrong way, and it's my fault for not being more explicit about what I meant with regards to this point. What I meant was that it would be believable that he would be able to edit his videos using 3d models instead of real products because he clearly has a lot of skill in video editing as shown by his other videos. This is not a reason why the product might be fake by itself. I made a mistake in putting this one first because it seemed more like an important point instead of a secondary one. Originally I intended to list these in order of how compelling I thought they were but I removed that sentence because I changed my mind about taking the effort to do that.
  
  
• At the end of the intro video, he holds up the coffee maker with one hand. If you watch this part of the video you get the sense that it has a weight more similar to an empty shell than a product with a heating element, grinding burrs, and a motor in it.
  
  
• You might believe his story about realizing that 150 k is not enough to launch a product (duh) and canceling the kickstarter early. But.... He could have also realized that he could make a lot more money with this idea. Taking the 150k and not delivering would have obviously meant that he couldn't try again for more. (also... if he spent so much time developing the first product, why not make a new Kickstarter for that instead of going through the trouble to develop a whole new one first?)
  
  
• He supposedly paid at least 4+ professionals (engineers, etc) to help him design this thing. That kind of thing costs a lot of money, so where did that money come from? If he is so loaded that he can afford to pay professionals to consult him on his design 3 times, why no mention of all the money he's sunken into it so far? Why are none of their names or businesses mentioned?
  
  
• If you look at coffee machines that grind their own beans, they are BIG. If it's possible to do all of this within such a tiny package, why have no other coffee makers gotten anywhere close? This is roughly 12x smaller in volume than the Breville Grind Control.
  
  
• If you look at the size and shape of the Bruvelo and think about where the components need to be to make it work, it seems impossible. If you look at the head of the unit alone, that small portion supposedly houses a reservoir for enough beans to brew a cup of coffee (supposedly more concentrated than any other drip coffee maker), a motor to spin the burrs, and the burrs themselves. Keep in mind that in this picture the burrs are sticking out of the bottom, so where is the motor?
  
  
• In a similar vein, the water for this thing supposedly goes from the cap to the base, and then from the base to the head again (which is already packed ... but somehow this head also has a system for distributing water), all through a very narrow channel which also functions as a support for the entire unit. In the intro video, the water would have to travel through the hinge of the cap to make it into the unit, which is possible but seems highly suspect to me. Keep in mind that this is completely different in the "un-edited" video. Pretty surprising that this man is able to fit everything into an impossibly small package in a way that no other coffee maker has been able to do, all in a year.
  
  
• The design of the product changes multiple times on the same page... I already mentioned how the functionality and internal design of the coffee maker in the "un-edited" video has a completely different internal structure to the one in the intro video, but even within the intro video it changes significantly. Check out this comparison of two different times in the video. This might be believable for an incomplete prototype, but for a fully developed product which is supposedly functional, you're not going to spend time developing everything only to change it in a couple months.
  
  I'm sure there are more reasons to suspect that this product is fake, and so I don't mean to suggest this is a definitive list. I would be interested in hearing other people's opinions as well.
  
  Edit: typo