Reddit mentions of God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God?

Well, it was a pretty long journey, but I'll try to summarize the main points.

I'm a cradle catholic. So when I was young, I attended catechism classes and I just took it all in without thinking about it critically.

As I grew older, I started to question all the things I was taught before. And the more you know about physics and biology, the more you question how the universe really works. Moreover, I got exposed to the writings and ideas of Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and the other popularly vocal atheist guys. I got exposed to arguments like the God of the Gaps, I saw the corruption in the catholic church both now and in the past; and all these things just added up and eventually pushed me to become an atheist.

After a certain event in my life though, I was forced to really think about what I truly believe in. I did a lot of thinking and a lot of studying of the arguments of atheists and the other religions as well. What I've come to realize is that catholicism, though not perfect, is probably the closest to the truth about how our universe works and how we should live our lives. That's a big statement, and I'm willing to be proved wrong on that, but here's briefly how I came to that conclusion.

I was exposed to the writings of Thomas Aquinas. His five proofs, and in particular, his argument from contingency is quite a revelation, and to me it makes a lot of sense. I also realized that there is a limit to what science can answer, and the only honest statement that science can make about God is that we don't know and can't prove scientifically whether or not he exists. Then you have the argument from absolute morality (which is not the same as 'what's stopping you from committing crimes if you don't fear a higher power?'). You have the proof of the historicity of Jesus and his message. You have the high probability of the resurrection being a real event. There's also the behaviour of the early church fathers and what they believed the message of Jesus was.

And I also came across many scientist-theists and their writings. John Lennox is particularly good (http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719). Alistair McGrath is another one who bridges the science-religion debate really well.

So now I'm back to the catholic church. I know it's not perfect, there is still corruption there. But just because the people that make up the church are corrupt does not mean it's message is necessarily corrupt as well.

I highly recommend God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God? By John Lennox

You should also know and point out that the dichotomy is not between science and faith, it's between Christian Theism and Naturalism. That's a pretty big difference.

"God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God?" - by John C. Lennox

Here are a few of the resources that have helped me:

https://biologos.org/
https://www.amazon.com/Creation-Evolution-Do-Have-Choose/dp/0857215787
https://www.amazon.com/Gunning-God-Atheists-Missing-Target/dp/0745953220/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gunning+for+god&qid=1555348576&s=books&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gunning+for+god&qid=1555348605&s=books&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Eyewitnesses-Gospels-Eyewitness-Testimony/dp/0802831621
Also, I've visited a lot of different churches and have plenty of friends that are Christians. Seeing that Christians are so very different from JW's- many are well educated, intelligent, thinking people- with a faith that is extremely different from the JW belief system. They have this passion, sincerity and relationship with God that is the opposite of the legalistic JW cult.

God's Undertaker by John Lennox is an excellent book and he is actually a mathematician as well at Oxford. Highly recommended.

It seems that the op deleted his account. Is there any chance to get the source code of hist list to update it?

Three books that I can recommend are:

[The Reason For God - Belief in an Age of Skepticism by Timothy Keller] (http://www.timothykeller.com/books/the-reason-for-god)

The Book That Made Your World by Vishal Mangalwadi

God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God? by John Lennox

Furtheron it would be great to have a smiliar list for christian apologetic organizations like

bethinking

The BioLogos Foundation

Institut für Glaube und Wissenschaft

If you're looking for books about scientific evidence for God, I'm partway through this book right now and it's really good.

https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719

I watched some of his debates with well known athiests (Dawkins, Hitchens), and liked him because he specifically defended the God of the Bible, the gospel, and the resurrection, rather than mainly sticking to general arguments for theism, which is a tendency that frustrates me with certain Christian apologists.

So you admit (after, what's it been, 7 opportunities) you have no evidence for your all-encompassing, foundational assertion then?

You'd be smart to investigate this, and see how you not only have no evidence for what you are saying, but that pure naturalism actually contradicts all basis for reason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_argument_against_naturalism

And it would be alright to criticize WLC, if, you know, Hume's Law didn't exist. But since it does, you can't assert any sort of moral superiority - heck, morality even - without it being a completely arbitrary assertion on your part. In fact, the only reason you think the murder of children is wrong is because you've been profoundly influenced by Christian thought and western society. If you grew up in a place where it was acceptable, you wouldn't have a problem with it.

(Whether or not events like these even happened is a topic we haven't bothered to touch upon. WLC has spoken, I believe, along the lines of Paul Copan's book Is God a Moral Monster? and questioned the record since there isn't much evidence for these conquests, and their narrative similarity to other, pagan conquest narratives).

As for me, I believe science works because God created an ordered universe that finds God as its first cause. We expect to find natural laws because we believe in a law giver. This is what the first scientists believed as well (think Newton, etc). http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1319304844&sr=8-3

There's a book that I believe does a decent job of tackling this subject. In it, the author addresses the order of creation, the meaning of 'days', as well as many other topics.

He's also written another book that tackles the silly notion that science and faith cannot coexist.

I know this is not really conducive to debate, but I thought it pertinent to bring these books to everyone's attention.

Privileged planet

https://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Planet-John-Rhys-Davies/dp/B0002E34C0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485725348&sr=8-2&keywords=privileged

Signature in the cell

https://www.amazon.com/Signature-Controversy-Responses-Critics-Cell/dp/0979014182/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485725571&sr=8-3&keywords=signature+in+the+cell

Gunning for God

https://www.amazon.ca/Gunning-God-Atheists-Missing-Target/dp/0745953220

God's Undertaker

https://www.amazon.ca/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719

https://www.amazon.com/Wonder-World-Journey-Modern-Science/dp/0972347313/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

The Wonder of the world- one of the books that changed Antony Flew from an outspoken Atheist to a diest.

I recommend these to start, if you are genuinely interested that is.