Reddit mentions of Intel Core i3-4150 Processor (3M Cache, 3.50 GHz) BX80646I34150

Do you guys think this is a better than i3 4150 for the same price (was $90 a couple days ago)?

Your friend is better off with an i3 4150.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J2LIF2S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417289113&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Why? As you said, he doesn't plan on overclocking and the i3 can't be overclocked. It performs, on average, better than the 6300 in games due to its superior single core performance.

I'd definitely advise going with a Pentium G3220 (~$57) or an i3 4150 (~$100), both dual core processors, the latter with hyperthreading that imitates a quad core as well as modestly stronger physical cores. Both have far stronger single-core performance than the 6 core FX-6350, and since the vast majority of games only utilize two cores, they'll give you significantly better performance while also being quieter and cooler. Only a few of the newest, most cutting edge games utilize even four cores, and due to how weak the individual cores of the FX-6300 are, both dual cores will still be faster, especially the hyperthreaded i3.

This would also allow you to forgo getting the aftermarket Hyper 212 EVO, saving you you a nice ~$25 that you could pocket or put back into other parts of your build.

Other than that, it looks quite nice to me.

AMD quadcore are absolutely horrendous. Do not buy.

Amazon has a Core i3 4150 on sale right now for $89.

And there's an MSI H81 mobo floating around for ~$30 that would go great with this. I just can't seem to find the link right at this moment.

>CPU

• The GPU, rather than CPU is the most important part of a gaming PC. It would be much more beneficial to take a cheaper CPU in exchange for a stronger graphics card.
  
• Intel CPU Core-i3-4150 3.50GHz 3Mキャッシュ LGA1150 BX80646I34150 【BOX】
  
  >Motherboard
  
  
• Since you won't be overclocking, you can take a much cheaper H97 motherboard.
  
• ASROCK アスロック 9 シリーズ マザーボード H97M-ITX/AC
  
  >RAM
  
  
• Cheaper, single channel RAM. This allows you to upgrade to 8GB easily in the future.
  
• CORSAIR DDR3 デスクトップ ロープロファイル Memory Module VENGEANCE LP Series 4GB×1kit CML4GX3M1X1600C7
  
  >GPU
  
  
• With the money saved from other parts, you should be able to upgrade the GPU to the much stronger R9 270.
  
• Sapphire R9 270 2G DUAL-X WITH BOOST & OC VER 日本正規代理店品 VD5197 SA-R9270-2GD5OCR01
  
  >Case
  
  
• That case is way too expensive, especially considering the price of all of your other parts. A simple and nice ITX case like Thermaltake Core V1 is more than sufficient.
  
• Thermaltake Core V1 Mini-ITX対応キューブPCケース CS4872 CA-1B8-00S1WN-00
  
  >PSU
  
  
• The Keian PSU has unknown OEM and performance, so it could be a dangerous buy. Spend a little bit extra on Scythe SPGRN-500(P), which is known to be built by Sirtec.
  
• サイズ 高効率 ATX電源 剛力Nakedプラグイン500W 80PLUSブロンズ SPGRN-500(P)

Here you go - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4150-Processor-Cache-BX80646I34150/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1411509694&sr=8-1&keywords=i3

ABSOLUTELY.

The fact that it can even be done with stock parts (although granted it won't be aesthetically pleasing given the case restrictions), drives the point home, but that also limits profitability by the manufacturers, and like i said also makes them ugly, so it makes sense that companies like Valve are designing integrated-system boxes that can run smaller and trim the fat, thus making room for profit.

The other major sticking point is Windows, which is precisely why we have steamOS. I hope it catches on. Windows is a great general purpose OS, don't get me wrong, but it eats resources that could be used in gaming, and also would devourer $100 of your build unless you uh, have connections.

That being said, allow me to demonstrate:

PC Case & PSU: $50

CPU: i3-4150: $120

MOBO: MSI H81M-E33: $50

4GB Ram: Crucial: $36

WD Blue 1TB HDD: $60

MSI GT 640: $84

Grand total: $400

I'd bet that total it would smoke a ps4 or an xbone, too.

Edit: I can't math, I'm $16 over with the GT650. So here's a GT640 that makes it work. Still beats a console.

Edit 2: regarding lifespan, that's a silly restriction. First, I've gone through FOUR xboxes in 8 years. The last one has only lasted becuase i mainly switched to a PS3 in the last few (edit 3: Three PS3s, but IIRC only one was due to death, the first got sold). Having said that, I have every confidence the build above will last 8 years, provided it doesn't die in the first 3 months. PCs are like that. Either they croak right away because you did something wrong like not provide enough airflow or have a bad part, or they last forever, like the dell desktop I have sitting in my office with a Core 2 Duo from 2007, or the studio-pc my old band used to record our album that I'm SURE the singer never updated, and is running a Pentium 4 and Windows XP (he's of the if it ain't broke variety).

Besides, what someone else down the line said, if you're going to compare apples to apples, add xbox live/psn sub fees for 8 years in, that automatically adds another ~$400 to the cost of the machine. That's a HELL of a lot of headroom for upgrades. And this isn't even taking into account the general cheapness of games on PC vs. consoles. Games usually start $10 cheaper on PC and will tend to drop immediately after launch - if you can wait a day or a week, you can usually get most games for $35 or less, so figure an average of $25/game savings, lets say 4 games a year (hah), and we're talking ANOTHER $800 saved over the lifespan you are suggesting.

TLDR: PC is cheaper, but requires more commitment (duh). There is something to be said about the console's ease-of-use where even my 3-year-old son can figure out how to turn on the PS3 and watch a cartoon on Amazon or play Pacman, or turn on the Wii U and play NSMB or Pikmin 3.

Get this CPU. But I wouldn't recommend this http://www.amazon.in/gp/aw/d/B00J2LIF2S/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1499076663&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=lga+1150&dpPl=1&dpID=517YLplMnhL&ref=plSrch


I suggest you sell your motherboard and get a 1151 socket motherboard. This will be more beneficial than getting a new CPU. you will have tons of options then.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00J2LIF2S/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used It's 87.60 now

And Frys had it new for $89.99 that ended 14 minutes ago

I'd recommend this motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00I6DLKCA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1405457095&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40

This cpu
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J2LIF2S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1405457170&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclock-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-3753-KR/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1422020182&sr=1-2&keywords=750

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboards-Z97S-SLI-KRAIT/dp/B00OJZTSR8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1422020368&sr=1-1&keywords=1150&pebp=1422020246088&peasin=B00OJZTSR8


http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4150-Processor-Cache-BX80646I34150/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1422020200&sr=1-1&keywords=i3&pebp=1422020204308&peasin=B00J2LIF2S


If you get all three then you would have a better experience all around for the same price as the GPU. could even get a cheaper mobo $397.43 for those three items or 350 for just a GPU

That'll be your best gpu for the money! My last critique with your final build would be the processor, Intel i series processors are known for being good with gaming in general while amd processors are better at work related topics. An i3 would serve you build best, but in the end it's your choice if you want it or not and the Athlon will serve you well.

This processor:
Intel Core i3-4150 Processor (3M Cache, 3.50 GHz) BX80646I34150 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_euLHub0J8M0PS

Paired with this mobo:
Gigabyte LGA 1150 Intel H81 HDMI/DVI/D-SUM USB3.0/SATA 6GBs Dual UEFI BIOS GA-H81M-HD2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I6DLK3O/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_YELHub03H0AW9

This CPU!

aaaaand I'd just shop around for a motherboard that fits your needs. It doesn't need to be fancy, because honestly if it works, it works. I literally have the cheapest motherboard I could find for my build, and it's just fine.

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Looks great! Things you might want to consider though:

• CPU can be downgraded to an i3, higher base clock speeds, not a big difference since you're not doing any real processing and you're using it for gaming too
  
• Money saved on the CPU/spare cash can be used to get a cheap, fast SSD for your OS and core programs. Honestly, they're worth it, and cut your boot-times down to 8 - 20 seconds from >1 minute with a HDD.

So I'm looking at these two:

Intel Core i3-4150 Processor (3M Cache, 3.50 GHz)

Gigabyte H97 Extreme Multi Graphics Support UEFI DualBIOS Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Motherboard GA-H97M-D3H

Thoughts?

This is my current build, with a case picked out on Amazon that doesn't appear on Part Picker.

On the Amazon page for that proccesor, it says, and I quote:

>Compatible with Z87 and Z97 motherboards. Z87 motherboard users may need to apply a BIOS update for compatibility. Not compatible with Intel Motherboards.

Since this is the first time I build a PC, I just want to play it safe and make sure everything works fine according to their specifications.

By all means don't quote me on this but this is a good place to start your research:

Motherboard:
gigabyte H97

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-DualBIOS-Motherboard-GA-H97M-D3H/dp/B00K7807IK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413058121&sr=8-2&keywords=ga-h97-d3h

CPU: i3 -4150

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4150-Processor-Cache-BX80646I34150/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413058342&sr=8-1&keywords=i3

MSI gtx 650 (confirmed as working somewhere IIRC)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-N650-2GD5-OC/dp/B00B1960KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413058480&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+gtx+650

This should be about 280, leaving not much for some kind of HDD the only thing left to buy

Please don't just buy these, check with someone who knows, this is not out of personal knowlage, just research

FYI you can get an i3-4150 for literally 2 cents more. might as well. Also, if you dont mind buying used you can get a nice R9 280X for around 150$ off of ebay or /r/hardwareswap, which outperforms the 760 by a fair amount. If you dont want to buy used I understand, this seems like a good build

and here is a list of amazon items, all have the 'prime' tag

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-4150-Processor-Cache-BX80646I34150/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415616577&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-USB3-0-Motherboard-GA-H81M-H/dp/B00I6DLKCA/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415616679&sr=1-7

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100-adapter-Internal-CT256MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGCWK/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1415616718&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=256GB+mx100

http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Turbo-DLDVI-I-Graphics-H270XQMT2G2M/dp/B00FNHVVP8/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415616793&sr=1-2&keywords=r9+270x

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_13?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415616917&sr=1-13&keywords=psu

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-MicroATX-Tower-Case-VSK-4000E/dp/B009LDNTOG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415617027&sr=1-4&keywords=computer+case

The case is not ideal, as it does not have UBS 3 outlets in the front. You might need to look for another one.

LGA1150? I have one of these i3s if you think you'd be okay with it. I can tell you I've easily run 2 eve clients on it with no issue (outside of big blob fights, of course).

Would this be any better? I'm trying to budget this.

So would you get This or get a G3258.



40 dollar price difference, but if I have to spend money on a cooler it would be even closer.



This is also my first build and I don't really know how to overclock yet

Nice, it seems like that R9 270X is quite commonly recommended around here. I think it would be nice to have 8GB RAM so I'll probably keep that. Is the i3-4130 a lot better than the G3258?

Edit: Also, would it be better to go with the i3-4150 or 4160 instead since they're only $5-10 more?

A better build for the money -

13 4160 - 8425Rs.

Cheapest H81 Mobo - 3.5k

8GB DDR3 RAM - 2300Rs.

Storage - 1TB, 3.6k

GPU - 17k, gtx 960

Cabinet - Variable, could go upto 3k for decent Circle cabinets.

PSU - 2.5k Antec PSU, powers my R9 290

Totals upto about 40k give or take(You could get parts much cheaper in an actual store) and you get a system which kicks the PS4's ass.

I know Indian prices are fucked and console gaming looks more tempting but trust me, looking at our steam store prices i'd say its worth it.

If you live in Delhi visit Nehru place to purchase your parts, you'll get the best prices there.

http://allegro.pl/procesor-intel-core-i3-4150-1150-3-5ghz-3mb-box-i4496219043.html, this ones only about $80 while this is the same one on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i3-4150-1150-BX80646I34150/dp/B00J2LIF2S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408660778&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+i3+1150