Reddit mentions of Uncovered: How I Left Hasidic Life and Finally Came Home

> Her argument was based around women having greater sexual fluidity because of evolution. Supposedly it decreases stress among the wives in a polygamous relationship if they start having sex with one another.

First, what time period is your co-worker talking about with this statement right here? Because I can tell you right now, most women who were in poly-amorous relationships(prior to the 21st century and before western and modern civilization) were there without their consent. They formed relations with other women because those other women were also there without their consent; they were slaves-they were property so of course they're going to be stressed, and so of course they're going to form close relationships with other victims who just so happen to be female.

Second, women couldn't even get divorced from their husbands until the twentieth century. Women couldn't even open a bank account until 1919 or get a credit card until the 1970's. Women had to be married to do a lot of things. So in the United States of America, before the 1970's, a woman couldn't really be independent without a man( father, husband, brother, etc) present; was it impossible, no, but it was more difficult. So I'm gonna go ahead and use my common sense to say many lesbians had to marry men just so they could live comfortably. Also let's not forget, homosexual acts were pretty much outlawed in almost every state. Women who lived with other women often went by the term "roommates". Also, women who lived in rural, or small towns often times, and even now don't really have a lot of options. So prior to the 1970's or really 1980's, if a woman didn't live in the city, and if she didn't come from a upper class family, and if she was a lesbian, it was going to be really difficult for her to get out and form a relationship with a woman. There are numerous biographies on Amazon about women who are in their 40s-70s still coming out, and trying to form that relationship they want with a woman.

Third, most female animals live in female only, and/or female matriarchy social structures. Primates are the few exception; female primates will join one male/several female family units for protection in numbers, and because of social dependence not because they love that male primate-no, fool, they want protection from more aggressive gorillas and predators.

> She also stated that many women will make out with their friends just for fun and women's sexual orientations tend to change a lot throughout their life. I have noticed that girls have a tendency to make out with each other even if they're straight,

Women who do this often do this because they're seeking attention; why they're choosing to express this through sexual displays usually boils down to lack of confidence, and low self esteem especially when it comes to the opposite sex. Also when one has too many drinks, their actions become questionable at best, and not to be taken seriously besides for "this person needs help".

> and have witnessed quite a few women go from gay to straight

Don't generalize a whole group due to a select few. Also why did these women turn straight, as you say? How close are you to their families, how religious, and liberal are their families? Did they go through a traumatic experience, or did they just so happen to fall for a dude? Were they really lesbians or were they just being gay because it was cool? Or were they bisexual and was just in denial; in other words, there's a reason for everything.

> especially later in life when they want kids/family

Okay, so now these women who turned straight sound like they come from a conservative, religious up bringing which I can relate to.

> She claimed these "pure lesbian" women just never met the right man (or had the looks to attract one), and if they did, would have been turned.

You don't need looks to attract a man; if that was the case then the prostitution industry wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar industry. If that was the case, social workers, wouldn't be rescuing a primate from a brothel. Craigslist would be out of business too. If you're a woman and if you walk out your house, you can attract the attention of a man...even if you don't want to.

> Neither of us are particularly attractive

Is she angry that women don't find her attractive because that's what it sounds like?

The reason why this argument comes up often in regards to female sexuality and fluidity is because women, we can express our sexuality more freely in the U.S than men. If two women kiss on the street wherever they may be, they will more than likely be gawked at and whistled at. If two men kiss on the street, they need to be careful where they do because there's a good chance they'll get their ass harassed or beat. I've seen numerous women hold hands with one another in public; I don't think I've ever seen men do it unless it was Gay Pride.

Love is not sex and sex is not love, there are numerous straight men who go to the glory hole to get their dicks sucked. Most times on the other side is a dude doing the sucking...are those guys straight, bi, or gay? When a woman who only loves women is forced to marry a man due to social and religious constructs, she endures having sex with him, is she gay, bi, or straight? Yes, sexuality can be fluid but it can also be stagnate.