Reddit mentions of VicTsing Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo[Fatigue Reliever], 2.4G Full Size Keyboard with Palm Rest, DPI Adjustable Cordless Mouse, USB Unifying Receiver, for PC Laptop Windows Mac iMac,Brown

those Look Really Gaudy IMO

but for a better Budget setup that looks nicer too i would instead recommend the:

the Logitech GPro/102/203.
for your mouse it is a smaller mouse but fantastic build quality and a superior Senor definitly the best budget mouse you can get right now

for the keyboard either something like the MechanicalEagle Z-77 for TKL or the VicTsing Mechanical keyboard for Numpad users. these are cheaper Chinese board using Outemu Switches instead of Cherry making them more budget friendly but still certainly a lot better than the Rubber dome keyboard in the coolermaster bundle

edit: fixed the missing sentence

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHVN4GA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

I recommend it, even though it didn't quite deliver on all my expectations from reading the manual (wink). I've been using it eight hours a day (at work) for two months, with zero trouble.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IHVN4GA/ref=psdcmw_172487_t1_B01DBJTZU2

Well, a lot of folks on r/mk (myself included) seem to be in agreement that Gateron switches are better than Cherry, and those are "knock-offs" so I dont think anyone will downvote you for not buying "branded" switches.

The few people who have posted about their red dragon boards seem to like them, and as far as backlight goes, that aesthetic is up to you.

What country are you trying to buy this keyboard in? If you search mechanical keyboards on amazon, you see a bunch of cheaper options that do have numpads. If you want a mechanical numpad, jellycomb makes one for $20 USD.

Here is a TOMOKO with numpad for $55 https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478280296&sr=8-2&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+tomoko

Rosewill is $60: https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4KH2

If you really want a solid keyboard with a numpad, the coolermaster TK retails in the US for $80 https://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-TK-Mechanical/dp/B00A378L4C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478280161&sr=8-2&keywords=coolermaster+keyboard

The Ducky One is another great option if you can save up the $115

I have these:

MechanicalEagle Z-77: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DBVH16U/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Magicforce:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ABUJ2KM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tomoko: (I got a cheaper one that was only 77 keys but its not one amazon anymore) https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&srs=14363847011&ie=UTF8&qid=1493431372&sr=1-1

I'm going from having this: [Garbage] which has gateron blues. I really don't like they switches because they have a lot of variance. But, I don't know how $$$ much is appropriate to replace it with. I replaced the keycaps because of how garbage the original ones felt. I prefer a harder switch to press, as I came from a high end rubber dome that needed a surprising amount of force (about double what these seems to have). But, I love the feeling of the mechanical keys. I am thinking about joining the massdrop for the Pok3r RGB because it seems like a robust keyboard that doesn't have considerable problems. But, I really don't know. Any suggestions?

My only note is I'm thinking about cherry mx blacks, and I would love to keep it sub 150USD.

Which should I get?

https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA?th=1


Or


https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-Tyrfing-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01N4A2IGN

I believe it is this one here.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IHVN4GA
I have the TKL version of this at work. dead simple workhorse with outemu blues. Clicky. Does it's job, standard bottom row layout, so good candidate for keycap sets, too, unlike some popular boards you might see on hardwareswap. I like it a lot - it's cheap and very simple. If that doesn't meet your needs, no problem - just trying to be helpful! Good luck with your buy. :)

They already have the full size ones, https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/

Ahh ok so like a $30 Keyboard i can replace? I was looking at this one:
[here](http://www.TOMOKO.com/ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Water Resistant Gaming Keyboard with Blue Switch for Gamers, Anti-ghosting Keyboard (Black, 104 Key) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kG26xbN0YZH1H). Thats just an idea but i will keep looking.

Also i know its the keyboard because the temporary keyboard i was using did work properly for the down arrow.

Can it be a driver? Like i said its my first mech so im not sure if they need drivers from the manufacturer.

I would consider <$50 for both kb and mouse to be a fairly affordable price. Check out /r/mechanicalkeyboards for an entire list, but I have two Tomoko87 (aka mpow mechanical kb) keyboards and love them. Got one for $20 and one for $30-ish iirc. https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Water-Resistant-Mechanical-Keyboard-Non-Conflicting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519531778&sr=1-1&keywords=tomoko+87 And the larger version with a num pad can be had for $40-ish if you search hard enough. https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01IHVN4GA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519531805&sr=1-1&keywords=tomoko+104 They are blue switches which I love for gaming and typing, but it's all subjective. Go to bestbuy and test some out to see what type of switch you like the most.

As for mice, I personally love logitech. I've only owned 3 models because they simply have lasted forever and i've never had to replace them. I do have experience with those cheap $10 "gaming mice" and I will say they are better than a wireless mouse or non-gaming mouse. If you want to buy a decent KB and save up for a great mouse then you can find CyberpowerPC ripoff mice for like $12 just about anywhere and it will last you a while until you find the mouse you want. https://www.amazon.com/Programmable-EasySMX-V18-Non-slip-Computer/dp/B073CG5BPH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519531619&sr=8-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc+mouse

In my biased opinion, this is my favorite cheap gaming mouse https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1519531846&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+gaming+mouse

Corsair/steelseries/etc. all make similar mice that are basically the same thing. I think of it as a kind of minimalist design. great for casual gaming. I am using the G502 just because i love heavy mice and I can save button shortcuts to the mouse itself so it works with my pc and mac...and rgb bro