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First step, download the Roku App on your smart phone, then pair via Blutooth to the TV (easy to do). Then, go to "expert settings" on your phone (in the Roku App) and make sure Gamma is set to 2.2 (or if you're viewing in a bright room, change it to your preference).,

To calibrate the TV, start a show to watch, then press the "*" (Star) button on the Roku remote (to the TV). You can now change the settings.

I watch most shows on Brighter, Vivid now, but I do change it up from time to time since the TV and remote make it quick and easy.

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My settings as I posted in a review on BestBuy:

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My Calibration settings:

Gaming (make sure "game mode" is on):

Bright game like NHL 19: Bright, Vivid.

Dark area in Witcher 3 or Battlefield 1: Dark, HDR Bright

Bright area in Witcher 3: Bright, HDR Bright

Bright area in Battlefield 1: Normal, HDR Normal (changed to Bright, Vivid recently)

Netflix Shows:

Darker show like Lost in Space or Luke Cage: Dark, HDR Bright

Brighter show like Disenchantment or Castlevania (or other 4K cartoons): Brighter, Vivid

Stranger Things: Normal, Normal, or sometimes I do Dark, Normal.

Youtube:

Bright 4K video: Brighter, Vivid

Normal 4K: Bright, Normal

Dark video like Sea of Thieves 4K or under the ocean: Dark, Normal

Sports:

Bright, Normal (I have noticed the "Sports" picture mode doesn't look good)

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If you are wanting to "set it and forget it", then just do Bright, Vivid and it works great in most modes.

Also, in Advance Picture Settings you can change the Micro Contrast. Change this setting to your liking.

Also, check reviews on Amazon or other sites to get other calibration settings. I use these because these are what I prefer and they look great.

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Edit:

Here is an example of additional settings provided off an Amazon review:

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"Normal can produce really flushed faces unless the color setting is turned down - but also produces the sharpest most accurate picture in my opinion. Note: I believe these setting are pretty much the default settings except I turned down the color a bit.


- TV Brightness: Bright during mid day, darker at night (2 easy clicks to change) - or just keep it on Normal. * This TV is more than bright enough for bright daylight viewing. Saw some complaints that it's not very bright. It's more than plenty bright!
- Picture mode: Normal
- Audio effect: Theater (sound's not that bad - but by no means as good as a sound bar). I also have it toslink connected to an older 5.1 Denon receiver - sounds great).
- Backlight: 100
- Brightness: 50
- Contrast: 100
- Sharpness: 0
- Color: 42
- Tint: 0
- Temp: Normal
- Micro Contrast: Low
- All other setting turned to Off (noise reduction, etc.)


Love the picture coming over cable, antenna, and streaming. HDR on YouTube is stunning. I mostly use the TV to watch Cable TV. Don't have any streaming subscriptions. The picture is very clean, sharp, accurate color, deep blacks, etc. No complaints. Getting around Roku is a snap, and changing settings and all is very intuitive. So far so good, and it is the best TV I've owned. Price is great for what you get. "

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Source: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07989K4HB/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews Review titled: " Don't hesitate to buy. Really good value! "

Keep your eye out for the new 5 series as well. Just to make the choice even tougher. Sorry!

From TCL: "The great features added to our S405 on our new 5 Series include Support for Dolby Vision, Wide Color Gamut, as well as picture performance improvements such as our iPQ Engine and HDR Pro Gamma, all wrapped in a great new cosmetic design!" The 49" is on Amazon, the 55" should arrive shortly.

Personally I'd go 5 series or 6 series. 6 series might be $599 at Best Buy if we get lucky and have the option of a lesser remote = cheaper price again this year. And the 5 series will be about $499.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07989K4HB/ref=twister_B07BT8WDPX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

There are always tradeoffs for the cheaper vs the more expensive. It really depends on a lot of the bells and whistles and what they mean to you. HDR for instance, most likely isn't available on the $350 Westinghouse, even though it's a 4K tv. So it won't be taking full advantage of the possibilities of the Pro. It'll still give a much improved picture compared to the PS4 OG, but not the best you can get.

HDR itself is said to be even more impressive and a leap forward than 4K was to 2K, so if that's important to you, you'd need to splurge.

I'm in the same boat, looking at my first 4K and a Pro and I landed on this one. It doesn't release until June (from what TCL said), but I'm not in a hurry, and it's right at where I was hoping to spend $$ wise.

But for already released tvs, check out rtings. They have the best reviews I've come across and give reviews to individual categories like movies, games, etc. You'll see what you'd be sacrificing for price.

Thank you so much, I just canceled my Amazon order on a Refurb LG B8.. I’ll only consider OLED if its coming from Bestbuy + Geek Squad Warranty but they don’t have a sale going on right now.. can you please help me which one to buy ?

Amazon RENEWED for $1448 Sony XBR65X900F 65-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPN3DS7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ieuRCbDJW0R4P

or

Amazon NEW: $1698 Sony XBR65X900F 65-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078GZYDFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wfuRCbAK56NSA

or Should I consider this ?LG C8 but im afraid of burn in esp my not so techie wife

Thanks for the heads up. After much research, I am pretty set on the TCL 55R617 TV here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079N9HDNQ?tag=rtings-tv-bs10b-20&ie=UTF8

Is the 200$ price difference worth it for the 6 series over the 5 series? What is the difference between the R615 and R617? I'm looking to be "Wowed" by the improvement in HDR content over my current Sony TV which will be migrating to the bedroom.

From what I've been reading from others, TCL quality control is much improved during the second half of the year and I already have Amazon prime so unless anyone knows of a cheaper price elsewhere (Black Friday or Cyber Monday) I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the TV linked above.

Also, I plan on wall mounting this TV and would appreciate recommendations on an inexpensive mount that will work with this TV.

Thanks

I would say a few things:

• You may or may not be able to see the difference on a 43 inch TV that is 1080 or 4K. It depends on how close to the TV you are.
  
• 4K TVs at this range are very affordable nowadays so it makes little sense IMO to get a 1080 set, even at 43 inches.
  
• Depending on the specific 4K set you are getting, any differences or improvements may or may not be present.
  
• I was just mentioning in another thread that I just got this TCL / Roku one a few weeks back. It's a secondary TV for a basement wall, so I didn't need anything great there. So far it's very good for the price: TCL 43S425 43 Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart Roku LED TV (2018) . It's $249 on Amazon.
  
• If you have room for a larger TV, it might be wise to look for deals on larger ones, as they are out there to be had as well.
  
  Good luck with your decision.

NU8500 is a good TV if you are getting a great clearance price on it.
Newegg had it for $619.99 but has since sold out. At that price it's a good deal, but at closer to $1,200 there are better options like the LG OLED B8

Here are rtings.com top recommendations for 55 inch, though sometimes the model numbers change in different countries.

I just got the Hisense H9F and I'm very happy with it. It's on sale for $800 right now. I can't speak for the other TVs but the H9F blew all my expectations away. The android TV OS and built in apps work great for me. Fast and resposive to inputs.

https://www.amazon.com/Hisense-65H9F-65-inch-Ultra-Android/dp/B07P1YSJ55/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=h9f&qid=1574954403&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

At 8-9 feet, the 65" is great and I think a 55" might be a little too small. 10-12 feet the 65" might be a little small.

Here you go $782 for a open box Somy 49” X900E Amazon warranties are really good if you aren’t happy with it I’ve heard great things about amazon warehouse when it came to TVs.

Sony XBR49X900E 49-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2017 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N284JCN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_q6OEAbMGYYSGM

This may not be as relevant but I figured I'd chime in. Last year I was just shy of pulling the trigger on a 65 inch 850D, which was (I believe) around $1800 pre black-friday. On BF it dropped to $1300 for a $500 savings. I figured maybe I should wait until right before the superbowl because TV's go on crazy sales then too and if it went down to the $1300 price again, I'd buy it.

So around January 20th 2017 I check prices again and it was actually only dropped to $1500 for a $200 savings. I was pissed. But in retrospect I'm glad I waited. Now, I'm keeping my eyes on the XBR65X900E, which is way better in comparison especially since the new systems will support 4k gaming.

Anyhow, the current price of the XBR65X900E (on BestBuy) is $1800 (dropped from $2500) for a $700 savings (According to the site). But since you saw it at $2k 2 months ago, and they are shaving $300 off now, I'd wager a guess that it will drop to $1500 for black friday for a $500 savings from the price you saw it at....

This may help you: Check out the price chart on camel camel camel

I know it only gives you AMAZON prices; however, its a good indication of where the TV started out at ($2500) and price drop intervals. It looks like every 3 months now the TV will drop in price so Black Friday should be your best bet.

Awesome thank again! Would you say the TCL 6 series is worth the extra money over the TCL 5 series?

Also do you know what makes these two TCL 4ks different?

TCL 43S425 43 Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart Roku LED TV (2018) ($250)

TCL 43S517 43-Inch 4K Ultra HD Roku Smart LED TV (2018 Model) ($300)

TCL 55R617 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Roku Smart LED TV (2018 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079N9HDNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RsGACbDNZNZ5R this one on amazon for 579$

Samsung UN55NU8000FXZA Flat 55" 4K UHD 8 Series Smart LED TV (2018) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NBMTWY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_huGACbYWFPDH4 the Samsung 55 inch 8000 series for 897$

I’m less familiar with the Vizio models but they are also similar price ranges. Overall I’d say TCL is cheapest and provides great price value and has Roku, Samsung is pricier and Vizio again idk but all three are wayyyy more credible and not necessarily more expensive

I'm sure that the Sanus mounts that the other guy linked are good. They usually are.

I would also recommend the mount I use:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D3TSFR4/

It's not as slick as the Sanus mounts, but it is much cheaper and it works well. It also stays pretty close to the wall when not extended.

None of these monitors are the highest spec'd out of sony. as an example the x900e vs the 905e are quite different, however if you are looking for the best 'value' i'd get the 900e.

Just a note see the price difference for the 930e below. Similar models but very different screens. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/2762449-sony-930d-vs-900e.html

If you are upgrading from an older panel or heaven forbid a CRT, you'll be happy with any of them and if you have a really big room get the panel that fits the room.

https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-XBR55X930E-55-Inch-Ultra-Model/dp/B01NAMGEHP/ref=sr_1_21?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511443313&sr=1-21&keywords=sony+tv

I haven’t seen it drop lower than $1299, no, but if you’re willing to give amazon warehouse deals a chance they’ve got the 65” X900E for $1275, I personally bought my 900E from them and it arrived brand new, the box had just been removed. Plus their customer support is the best.

I would 100% buy a 65” 900E over a 55” 900F.

I think I'm going with this one. Been looking for a few days. HDR 10, 4K 49 inches. 33 ms input lag with HDR on. Looked gorgeous running a demo I Best Buy. In my budget. Hope price drops by November!

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR49X800D-Class-Ultra-Black/dp/B01FWIEO6A

Just FYI the 2019 TCL just got posted. I'm in the same situation right now, and the TCL are looking pretty great.

amazon link

Rtings.com best sets under $500

If you can stretch to $650 $629, the 55" TCL R617 is your best budget option.

Best deal you are going to find. Vizio Quantum Dot M558 with Dolby Vision and HDR10+. Vizio is the only brand right now that does both Dolby Vision and HDR10+

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RFNWW8Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I agree with Vudu for streaming movies - great selection, good prices and quality.

That said to really get the most out of my 4K and 7.1 setup I am astounded at how fantastic physical 4K blue ray discs are.

I went with a fairly inexpensive player for $165 that works great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HXF9H2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I purchased a few movies I really wanted to own but for the majority I use a disc rental service: https://4kbluray4u.com/

Subscription is $15 a month and I average 4-5 movies a month so the per movie cost is actually lower than most streamed rentals.

I do use Vudu for things that haven't been released on disc yet and on other TVs with Roku.

Save a little bit more, and then get this. Best budget TV available right now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D3TSFR4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This kit works well on my nu7100, lots of mounting options

you can get long (2.5"+) bolts and plastic washers and make them the right size, but this kit comes with everything that you will need. Also, it can extend 2 feet from the wall which is nice. I can turn my 50" tv a full 90 degrees

also: not an ad, I was just looking through the sub

Again can you please go into to any detail? I don't much care for picture quality unless it's like OLED or something, why would this look significantly worse than other LED tvs? Is it not actually 4k or something? And how would it work for gaming?

again i'm upgrading from this thing https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3D-display-3/dp/B0050SZ49Y how would they compare? a TCL or Vizio is outside of my budget range. In your opinion what are the best 4k TVs of atleast 40 inches I could get for 400$ canadian or less?

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This is better and cheaper probably if you’re gonna go used LG Electronics OLED55B8PUA 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart OLED TV (2018 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DRRYS1W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_C.TLDbPF2VPSW

Another option is the Sony X800D, $650 for the 49 inch model, gets slightly lower rating as the Samsung on RTINGS.com for some things but equal for gaming and 4K HDR. I have one and I'm happy with it.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR49X800D-49-Inch-Ultra-Model/dp/B01FWIEO6A
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d

Yep. Although I am generally on rtings' side - which is warranties are more profitable statistically to the company than to the customer, I am going for one just for peace of mind.

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I see SquareTrade on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/SquareTrade-4-Year-Protection-Plan-500-599-99/dp/B003BLXJR6/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) - the four year warranty for just 54$ - I would probably just go with this but there's some confusion reg. whether this applies only to TVs purchased from Amazon or not (As the product description seems it's only for Amazon) though some reviews claim they have used this plan for items bought ouside Amazon - but I am not too sure. Any idea?

to be honest, nah, it's a mediocre tv, but here's what i'd recommend

TCL S517 (49")

Keep in mind the 6 series at bestbuy is a bestbuy specific model which leaves out some features compared to the 55R617 sold elsewhere when comparing price. It is not apples to apples. Good price fore the 55" 55R617 6 series right now on amazon i just ordered 1.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079N9HDNQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-55R617-55-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B079N9HDNQ

This is a pretty solid choice

TCL 65" Class 6-Series 4K UHD QLED Dolby Vision HDR Roku Smart TV - 65R625 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V4TC9V8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tmmHDb8ER82TA

> Size should be either 43 or 49 inches. Can't go bigger than that because the stand the TV is on is small and wouldn't support anything larger (unless the TV's footprint is smaller, like on some Sony TVs)

You could probably go larger if you look at models with a center stand, as opposed to the legs at the corners. Not sure on your budget, but you can look at the Sony x930E which has a center stand on its 55" model, that would likely fit. Can also look at the LG OLED 55

LG Electronics OLED55B8PUA 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart OLED TV (2018 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DRRYS1W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_r5iDCb67YV0PH

Should be the first one to pop up in the us amazon store.

Oh yeah and I guess I can get one of these guys https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IUUN6L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jJjezb91E0TS5

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Since it has a VESA compatible back.

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Any thoughts about whether it is worth the extra money for the sony over the TCL?

The TCL 55P607 (55 inch 4k Hdr with dolby vision) is tested at 15ms input lag at 4k with hdr, considered the 2nd best gaming tv on the market right now.

TCL 55P607( Its only 650$ to)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6FSV5Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Rtings review
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607#comparison_91

LG Electronics OLED55B8PUA 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart OLED TV (2018 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DRRYS1W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vCcxDbAQWPWXA

I am exactly on the same boat. If you look at the price of 49" X900E last year (https://camelcamelcamel.com/Sony-XBR49X900E-49-Inch-Ultra-Smart/product/B01N284JCN), it dropped by $100 around black Friday.

If you have a discover card, you would get 5% cash back on top of that if you buy from Amazon.

55" is available on Amazon now! Delivery is set for Monday, the 30th!

Sony xbr49x900e and xbr55x900e on sale for $898 and $998 on Amazon right now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N284JCN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510992076&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sony+xbr49x900e&dpPl=1&dpID=41HZHaIc-VL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MUG21R7/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1510992076&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sony+xbr49x900e&dpPl=1&dpID=41HZHaIc-VL&ref=plSrch

Thats $300 more, I dont know if that would be worth it. This is the one I'm looking at https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07986PJ7M?pf_rd_p=d1f45e03-8b73-4c9a-9beb-4819111bef9a&pf_rd_r=FDW512DDAZMRFJE6NH75

that model and this was also recommended. any differences between the two?

Pulled from amazon:

Dimensions (W x H x D): TV without stand: 57" x 32.8" x 2.4", TV with stand: 57" x 35.3" x 10.3"

amazon

55 is prime eligible now https://www.amazon.com/TCL-55R617-55-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B079N9HDNQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1524778087&sr=8-7&keywords=tcl+6+series

Dcnhma posted this sale on the 49" for $898.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N284JCN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510992076&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sony+xbr49x900e&dpPl=1&dpID=41HZHaIc-VL&ref=plSrch

It wasn't showing up for me in search either, but then I noticed it was on the sidebar. It wasn't showing up because it's now marked as "currently unavailable." Here's the link, though.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B079N9HDNQ/

Sony used LG OLED panels. Get an LG. The Sony OLEDs are a massively higher price for practically nothing. They're a terrible purchase because of this.

You people are dumb.

The LG B8 is $1,500.

The A8F is $2,300.

A built in sound bar and slightly better processor does not justify 800 fucking dollars.

Identical overall rating from Rtings, and the Sony doesn't even score much higher in sound quality.

Yeah I saw this on amazon,

LG Electronics OLED55B8PUA (2018)

https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-OLED55B8PUA-55-Inch-Ultra/dp/B07DRRYS1W

Really tempted. It's a 2018 model but for the price I can live with it. Still, it's on the high end of what I want to spend and I game so I'm always worried about burn-in. Had a plasma and I think I spent more time worrying about burn in then enjoying the tv.

I'll take a look at a few of those suggestions.

I think we're SOL in Canada. Amazon has it listed as unavailable, but I'm not sure if they'll ever get it.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B079N9HDNQ/?coliid=I3LIH08PN4RB6N&colid=18D1QNMXR02RF&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

wait, am I wrong, I thought it was the 4-series I am looking at

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-55R617-55-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B079N9HDNQ

edit: okay I think this actually is the 6-series then