(Part 2) Best products from r/DSLR

Here's some options that I like, if you don't mind buying used you'll have more room to buy more lenses and any other gear you'll like, but these are all new and all kits which includes the body and a lens. 

If you want to stick with Nikon the D5600 is an amazing camera, the image quality and usability are awesome. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VW3KC9X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_M-GNDb4BPTVEJ

If your willing to spend a little more the D7100 is a great camera I can only find the body and not a kit but you could just get a lens separately.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/927106-GREY

You could also buy a Used D600 for around $600-$650 with a low shutter count if you are interested in full frame, then spend the rest on a lens.

For Canon If your on a budget I'd recommend something like the rebel 7ti 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P15K8Q7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IgHNDb2YN44GR

If you're willing to spend more the 77D is a great option, the first link the the 77D with a 18-55 and the second is a 18-55mm + 55-250mm

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KVS93ZF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KhHNDbV4SY44F
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y1YVWLH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vFHNDbWGFF6GX

As for mirrorless I recommend these cameras.

Canon EOS M50

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TWB61Z2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kxHNDb2NM14RY

Sony a6300

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007GK50X4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xAHNDbN04X71G

Fujifilm X-T20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NCVN74T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pCHNDb74CQ8X6

You can easily see most of the differences between the two here! http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/t6i/vs/canon/t6/

As for the costs, there are several different lenses it could come with but I'll assume that this is the one you're looking at - https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CQJHJ2E/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478815625&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=t6&dpPl=1&dpID=41LwLwxCUcL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1 , I tend to use Amazon as an average price, and where I buy a lot of my items myself. I'd say the 450 price point is definitely decent then if it's the same items!

You (or she) will definitely come to realize there are many different choices that can help achieve many different things (for a lot of different costs!). To start though this is a great bundle, the same I started with actually (albeit older versions). Based off what she wants to eventually do in photography can help a bit with deciding what to buy and help you focus in on one path or another. Hopefully this helps a bit!

Not at all.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Compact-Systems-3-0-Inch-EF-M18-55mm/dp/B00A2BVCO0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1375304495&sr=8-3&keywords=canon+eos+m+22mm

That isn't a DSLR, it's mirrorless, but it seems very cool. $350 for the camera with 18-55 lens

or $399

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/883304-REG/Canon_6609b033_EOS_M_Digital_Camera_with.html

for the camera with the 22mm f/2 lens. I would get the 22mm f/2 lens. My friend just bought this camera and he hasn't got it out yet to use it but being that it's from canon and looking at the specs of it I'm sure it'll take very very quality photos. Again, it's DSLR and I realize that we're in the DSLR subreddit, but mirrorless does have some cool advantages over DSLR. The size of this is pretty awesome as well since you'd be way more likely to carry this thing with you than lug around a clunky DSLR (at least I know I would be)

Idk, that's just what I would get if I was looking in the 300 to 400 price range. I don't think you'll find a new APS-C size sensor body + lens for less than that.

First, you say you want to 'upgrade', what do you mean by that exactly? What do you want to do that you can't currently do with your kit lens? Is it to achieve a 'bokeh' blurred background? Then you won't find anything like that that can also zoom in your budget.

You say the nifty fifty doesn't zoom, but your current lens does, can you not use that? Yes I agree a 50mm will probably be too tight on a crop sensor camera for a smaller apt.

The other zoom lens you mention is wider than your kit lens yes, but's it's slower and not too different from your kit lens. Do you want an even wider shot than 18mm? The kit lens is actually a pretty good range for indoor shooting, and probably suits your needs more.

But if by upgrade you do mean a faster lens, i.e. achieve a deeper depth of field (blurred background), the check out the EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Lens. You can't zoom with it, but has an f stop of 2.8 (not as fast as the nifty fifty, but still good) and is a good standard focal length for a crop sensor of 24mm. If you need to zoom, use your zoom lens. Or move the camera closer.

I have the Canon 80d and like it. It’s a good well rounder and my only complaint is the low light performance (however the lens could have something to do with this). However I will mention this is $1000. An option I see often (never have used myself) and is cheaper ($500-$900) is the Sony A6000 or the Sony A6300 (or a newer model). These are mirrorless and when you look at the viewfinder and make changes, that is what the image will look like. The A6300 might be more future proof with its 4K video if video is of interest. These would be good photo options from what I can tell (but again take that with a grain of salt since I’ve only used the 80d). If you are interested in more video vs photography another cheaper option would be the Panasonic G7 and is 4K. I cannot speak for Nikon, but they seem like good budget cameras, but may be lacking video wise. But overall the glass will make more of a difference than the camera! Any of these options would be a step up from your smartphone!

Camera links (Amazon)
Sony Alpha a6000
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8BICB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7eQkDbQD2A5PY

Sony Alpha a6300
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007GK50X4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5gQkDbYD1ET6T

Panasonic G7
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X409PQS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aiQkDbKSNBTTR

Canon 77D (80D alternative)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06VSTCWJ9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4kQkDbJGAEWNA

Canon 80D
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BUYK04A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZjQkDbTAJB668

If you're a landscape photographer, I recommend you step up to a full frame camera rather than the crop sensor Nikon D7100. The Sony A7 with the 24-70mm kit lens is probably the best value for money in your price range ([$1699.99CDN from photocdm in Quebec via eBay] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/706-53473-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=281478257775&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229529&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg) - a [little more on Amazon] (http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-Full-Frame-Interchangeable-Digital-28-70mm/dp/B00FRDV06I/?tag=hybrcamerevo-20)).

Here is what this camera can do: https://www.flickr.com/groups/sony-a7/pool/

Hope this is helpful and good luck!

Unfortunately, there's no easy answer because there's simply so many options available. Consider this as well: just buying a DSLR doesn't give you solid audio, and lighting.

You can pick up a used t2i/t3i, which are regarded as viable prosumer cameras. Used t2i body only is about $300 (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-T2i-Camera-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B0035FZJHQ)

Then you'd need a lens. The Canon Nifty Fifty is a solid choice (keep in mind with crop factor though, it'll be tighter than 50mm) which is 100 bucks. We're around 400 now. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12142-USA/Canon_2514A002_Normal_EF_50mm_f_1_8.html

This is where you have a choice- could buy another zoom lens or something, but I'd recommend grabbing a Rode Video Mic Go to solve your audio situation. This is another $100, and it is a cheaper solution (the video mic pro is a better mic for sure.) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1012003&gclid=CLqMrLTvvckCFQoqHwodvWgFGg&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&Q=&A=details

Now we're at 500ish. You can spend the remaining budget on a tripod and memories cards.

Keep in mind, you'll need some sort of lighting too! Really hope that helped.

If you are just getting started and have absolutely no gear, then this would be a good way to get into DSLRs. It has everything you will need to get out and take photos and learn what you need to learn before you start throwing big money at lenses and full frame sensor cameras.

I have the same 2 kit lenses for mine, and I shoot all kinds of video and photos (for money and for fun). I also have some extra gear that I have collected for video gigs through the years, like lights, stabilizing rigs, etc that help, but, it's not always about having the best gear, it's finding a way to make what you have work. You could have a $10k camera rig, but if you have no idea how to frame a shot, set aperture/shutter speed, color balance, etc, you won't get good results.

I would recommend getting this lens as well if you have the extra money. It is a great little lens for the price.

I’m a beginner myself, but here are some things that really helped me to understand the true basics:

https://tldr.photography/

I also bought this book, which gives you an insight of the art behind photography:

Read This if You Want to Take Great Photographs https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1780673353/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_kxr5XO1i42ldv

What I recommend though, is practice, practice and practice! And never delete pictures, you’ll always make mistakes and learn from them, to improve you further as you go along.

I ended up getting this one:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01LFGWG2C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And i think it's...ok. Not great. I like that it opens in the back instead of the front, which feels safe and makes it easy when your out walking to get stuff. I fit my camera and about 3 extra lensens and a bunch of other stuff in there easy.

It doesn't have a waist support, so for longer hikes maybe it's not great.

There is a amazon basics one as well, but I don't know anything about it.

I do however really like the backpack over the shoulder bag. For going for a walk and be able to have your stuff it's really a lot better

Thanks, /u/Citizen_Capet - I wrote that comment - but, sadly, the cameras I recommended in that post both cost more than 600€, so they don't really meet /u/terasia's needs.

In this price class, I recommend the [499€ (on sale for the holidays) Panasonic G6] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00CP0M1LO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00CP0M1LO&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21).

Unlike a DSLR, this camera has an electronic viewfinder that you can use for framing and composition outdoors in bright sunlight. DSLR optical viewfinders are blocked by the reflex mirror, which is useless for video. This forces you to use the LCD on the back of the camera, which can be very difficult to see outdoors.

The Panasonic also has a built-in intervalometer for timelapse, built in focus peaking for accurate manual focus, built in audio meters and manual audio level control, 1080/50p recording for smooth slow motion and fast, silent video autofocus.

It would be a challenge to find a reflex mirror DSLR below 600€ with all of these features.

Here is what the G6 can do:

Landscapes

http://vimeo.com/113872545

http://vimeo.com/113063344

Landscapes and Wildlife

http://vimeo.com/80396016

You'll find more examples in the [Panasonic G6 community] (https://vimeo.com/80396016) I moderate over on Vimeo.

Hope this is helpful and best of the holidays!

Hi /u/headachesandparanoia - I don't think you're giving too much importance to the size difference. The A6000's smaller size means that you are more likely to carry it with you.

A camera that is at home on the shelf because it is too bulky to carry won't do you any good.

And you can get the [A6000 with the 16-50mm power zoom for 695€ from amazon.de] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00IE9XHE0/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00IE9XHE0&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21).

As for lenses - with inexpensive adapters, mirrorless cameras have a much wider range of compatible lenses (to include Canon lenses with a [130€ autofocusing adapter] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00E1XYZKS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00E1XYZKS&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21)).

The touch screen is a "nice to have", not a "must have" - and you can get an external recorder (or a [44€ Rode SmartLav for your iPhone] (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BHN05H2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&creativeASIN=B00BHN05H2&linkCode=as2&tag=hybrcamerev02-21)) if you're serious about sound.

Hope this is helpful!

Bill