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Mine doesn't have the Ghost Ring sights. I think mine is a 50577. I picked it up used at my LGS for $280+tax.

I bought a rail for it, but I haven't installed it yet. The rail I bought is 5.4". I'm waiting until I decide which Red Dot I want before I install it. Lasers are a no-go where I'm moving, so I haven't considered one at all.

As far as lights go, it seems like there are a few options. There are lights that go on a railed fore end, integrated fore end lights (thinking of the SureFire), and then I think there are rails that you can attach via clip/clamp to either the barrel or the tube. I have not done much research on that end. I'm leaning towards a SureFire fore end integrated light tho.

The Limbsaver I bought is a slip on. It just shipped yesterday. I bruise easily, so my plan is to put the Limbsaver on over the stock Mossberg recoil pad (I'm on blood thinners) to see if that works.

Link for the rail I bought
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ME8SZFS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

With the ammo stuff, I figure it is worth it to pay for 5-10 shell packs of a wide range to figure out what I like the best, and then I'll place bulk orders for that. At the moment, I like the Aguila MiniShells the best, but they are too expensive for me to shoot in the quantity that I'd like. I feel like I'm spoiled because I shoot mostly .22LR (.05-.07 per round), so dropping $.50-$1.00 per round feels steep.

I'm trying out the full size shells with a recoil pad to see if I bruise much from them. I've also considered getting one of the Mesa Tactical LEO Recoil Stocks, but I don't like that it has a pistol grip on it...and it is nearly $300.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020617361?pid=976347

That's a nice compact option similar to the S&W in size but a bit nicer. This would probably be the best looking on the gun and it's an appropriate size. Plus it's a decent brand.

Here's a slightly longer version of the same light that's a good bit brighter.

I have this same model that's more budget oriented but it's very very bright. If you don't like it on the shotgun it would make a great normal flashlight (just remove the mount) It's a bit bulkier though so if it's going on a shockwave it might not be the way to go. Since it's so inexpensive it's not too big of a risk to try it out since you can use it as a normal light either way. It comes with two batteries and the charger too so that's pretty cool.

I'm going to edit this comment and add more links after dinner.

If you are spending $10 (possibly plus shipping) anyway, might I recommend a pair that runs $80 that's on sale for $18? The Smith Optics Aegis Arc is on crazy sale right now on Amazon through Botach. I have gotten two pairs and I'm about to order a third. The Smith Optics are not only Z87.1 certified but they are US MIL-PRF-31013 certified for use by frontline troops. $18 gets you a clear lens, a sunglasses lens and a stupid nice case.

Lucky Gunner did a pretty thorough safety glasses test program and the Aegis Arc was able to withstand a 22short. http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/eye-protection-shooting-glasses-review/

My 2 cents. Good luck.

Yeah I can understand that. Sorta like cleaning the large pieces of trash out of your car but not vacuuming.




You've been super helpful. Can't thank you enough. By the way, I noticed a "Tornado brush" that the guy says he wraps the saturated patches around. Might be useful to try it out so you don't get those don't pushed down bristles. The stainless steel seems a bit worrying though. This pack is only $3 more with both an extra brush and a cleaning swab. So I'll give it a try and see what works.

I did love the look of that shiny barrel/gun. So I guess I'll be doing the break down every time as well. Good habit to get into.

Any preference on a cleaner/lube? I've heard CLP mentioned a lot around these parts- but an all-and-one seems odd to me.

I LOVE my old A5. It's a Japanese manufacture, because I'll duck hunt and the Belgian models can't take steel shot. It's my bird gun and I've taken countless dove, pheasant, duck and chukkar with it. I do have a fantastic sling though that I use bc it is a bit heavy and this sling takes care of all that. I like feeling a little old school on opening day of dove season and this gun is perfect for that!

Here's that sling too. I'd tell any wingshooter to pick up one of these though, they're awesome

https://www.amazon.com/Upland-Sportsman-The-Sling-Black/dp/B00OPKNHZ6

I used to shoot in blizzards and below freezing temps. The best gloves I found were winter golf gloves. I bought a couple pairs of Foot Joy WinterSof Gloves

I cannot recommend these enough, they are warm, much warmer than mechanix gloves (I've tried them), and yet you can feel everything like mechanix gloves.

I tried on a pair of the bob allens but they were to thick for me to feel like I had good control over the gun and have good feel on the trigger.

These are like half good half lower end. Both padded belts are OneTigris Padded Patrol Belt which comes with an ok inner belt which i switched out. (im happy with quality) if and when they fail ill go grunt gear or HSG. The inner belt on the AR belt is a IDK riggers belt which i had. I don’t think they are in business anymore. On the shotgun belt i took a chance on a amazon $20 XRaider Tactical Belt, to save like 30-40 bucks on a fusion belt crobra buckle or any number of 60-100 riggers belts. My idk belt has a rapotor bucket. The $20 belt has a pretty solid knock off style quick release. These battle belts are super expesive if you try to good high end with everything

If your interested in what i ordered here is the build:
Outer belt

OneTigris Tactical 1000D Dual-use Nylon Belt Molle Padded Patrol Belt with Waist Protection Pad (Coyote Brown, Large) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011R8SN8O?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Inner belt

XRaider Tactical Belt, 1.5" Tactical Heavy Duty Waist Belt, Quick-Release Military Style Shooters Nylon Belts with Metal Buckle (Brown) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074PMRXC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_eM1bAbC4S5CDW

2 shotgun cards (28 shell)

Hi-Tech Custom's 12 Ga. Shotgun Pull-Out Shell Carrier Molle Pouch (For any Tactical Shotgun) (Kryptek Camo) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LW9EUO6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_sutdH585pRkWH

2 ITW pistol fast mags( not in fde or brown on amazon) $28 each. I also used the $10 air soft knock offs. They are ok if you want to keep cost down. But i went with the real ITW fastmags.

Dump pounch(my AR belt has a black fold up one. I think you get better option with the one in this link. It has 3 outside pocket you can use for spare mags pens loose round amd still have the dump area.)

CISNO Military Small Molle Belt Tactical Magazine Dump Drop Reloader Pouch Bag W/ Mesh(Coyote Tan) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OCFJF0A?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Tacties for the shotgun cards

Maxpedition TacTie PJC5 Polymer Joining Clip (Pack of 6), Tan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1RKTX0?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Or condor mollie strapps

Condor 6 inch MOD Strap - Tan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0068RW4F8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_cT1bAbE4QS3DA

Lightning x products first aid kit. It has a great size pouch with some really good first aid supplies. Not the best but for 40 bucks it gets you started.

Lightning X Individual First Aid Trauma/Hemorrhage Control Kit In MOLLE IFAK Pouch Value Edition - TAN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NB16RSB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_7T1bAbSXQWMF3


Its not not cheap even when using a cheaper belt. The condor one only had the 2 molle loops. I didnt like that.

I've since dropped the red dot, since it did not like to hold zero very well. In the process of selecting a ghost ring that will work with the setup.

The Urbino stock is amazingly comfortable, since I'm a smaller shooter, the lower LOP means I can move more naturally. And the Magpul forend with illumination kit is a lot more comfortable than the stock synthetic!

EDIT: I also did want to say that the Urbino stock was AMAZING at reducing felt recoil as well!

EDIT2: The flashlight is an Orion http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CI8KRBY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I did add a rail to the foregrip for a flashlight, This is the set I used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CCNM988?ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage&redirect=true&psc=1&pldnSite=1

Besides that, no other mods as of yet. Although i would like to replace the stock at some point.

The shotgun disassembles like a normal ak for the most part. The manual that comes with the gun shows the necessary disassembly steps. The only thing that is real different from a normal ak is the gas plug/regulator assembly; which again is shown in the manual.

As far as cleaning, I clean it like a normal rifle/shotgun, about every 3 trips or so, I will pull the gas regulator out and clean it off because carbon likes to build up around it until you cannot change the gas settings.

That is not a big deal because I just shoot everything on #3 (full open), at some point I may try to polish the bolt and other surfaces to improve reliability with the weaker ammo.

All in all I would say get it if you can, some would say to save your money and get a Vepr 12 and I can't say for certain that it is a better gun; since I have never held/shot one.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you remove the gas regulator, you will need to take care when reassembling the gun that you align the selector knob with with the correct size hole in the regulator. IIRC, you could have the knob say you are on setting 0, when in fact you are on setting 3.
After work tonight I will take some pics of the gas regulator and link them here. That way you can see what I am talking about.

I bought this one for mine - little heavy fully loaded up, but is comfortable. Also bought this to have an easy attach point. Works well.

>I tried several of the reusable Surefire earplugs, and they were crap

Came here to say this. They sound like a good idea... and they aren't.

My gang usually just buys basic ear plugs from a construction equipment store. Smth like this: https://www.constructiongear.com/holemaeaboxo.html or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000BYAP7I/?tag=ybduk-21 - 30 bucks for a box of 100/200, and they work well enough against a 12ga outdoor (would probably be kinda meh for indoor use of a short-barrel .223 with a muzzle comp.

Do you have a vent rib? Williams fire sights. There may be versions that don't use the vent rib also.

Looks great, works great.

https://www.amazon.com/Williams-Universal-Slugger-Fire-Sight/dp/B001U9WI2S

Good advice so far. If it's lightly oiled in a climate controlled environment you shouldn't have much trouble keeping rust away.

And to add to the security point, you should seriously consider locking the gun up. Remember crooks love guns, and I would be sick to my stomach if one managed to get a hold of mine. You don't need to invest in a 2 ton safe for one shotgun, but a cheap steel cabinet like this one, bolted to the wall/floor, should at least deter a smash and grabber.

http://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-GCB-8RTA-Security-Assemble-Storage/dp/B004EYTD4W/ref=sr_1_7?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1394899032&sr=1-7&keywords=corner+gun+safe

Highly recommend using NCstar's side saddle. Dirt cheap and is one of the best side saddles to use.

https://www.amazon.com/Stack-GCB-8RTA-Security-Assemble-Storage/dp/B004EYTD4W/

easier than building your own box. Check the length of your guns, though, 52" is kinda short for a shotgun and you may want a slightly larger model.