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Actually (I was the OP of this thread that you were talking to) I like more expensive recipes, but not becuase i feel it is more of an accomplishment when i make something. I just feel that the way modded usually works, you start playing and within a few days are extremely flush with resources, and then you can just sit around and craft craft craft all of the machines you need. Plus, with resources being so easy to get vs the cost of building things, there really is no need to worry about efficiency, other than for giggles.

So for example, forestry ethanol. People usually make oak trees, crush the apples for fruit juice for some of the saplings, then use water for whatever saplings they can't use. There is no push to find ways to get more fruit juice, or even make honey, to get more ethanol production. You make another tree farm, or just move on to a big reactor (not many people even make tree farms anymore, its nether lava right ot big reactor now).

If the cost of a tree farm was very high, then people would try to find ways to squeeze every bit of power out of the resources they got from it. Instead its far easier to just make another or another cheap power source, than it is to breed trees to get more Sappiness from a sapling, get more saplings to drop, etc.

If they cannot pay for the cost of another power source (due to cost being high) then they might say... hmm... i have a lot of redstone doing nothing, I could use it in an EIO vat for some rocket fuel. But people only do that now for fun (which is fine too). It could also be fun though to have to make that decision. Do you put some redstone into making some fuel for engines to power your stuff, or do you use it to build something new?

Compare it to a game like call of duty. Modded mc would be like playing COD where you can just carry every single weapon. Sure its fun! Snipe over here, LMG over here, toss 20 grenades over here.

But its also fun to only have enough 'resources' to carry a few items, and to have to pick what you want. Do you invest in Fast Hands to switch weapons faster, or Engineer to spot opponents Equipment and blow it up before it gets you? If you could just carry ALL of those things and have all of those abilities, it would get very bland. Of course cod is a competetive game, and people will argue that MC is not... but then again, MC is a sandbox game, right? Its not a competition against other people, but a competition against the 'world'. Can i thrive and survive in this world? Isnt that why they call it survival mode? TO me, the higher costs push the game more in that direction. But i dont like how IE:E has done it IMO. It doesnt seem more challenging, it just made the numbers more impressive. Which could be the narcissism thing you are talking about. People can post screenshots of the crazy expensive item they created.

My pack would go the other way, and no one would like it. :) I would reduce the amount of resources you get, make it harder ot make power, so then crafting normal items becomes more challenging. The pack i am working on for example cuts the amount of resources a quarry gets by 75%. So, quarries are a bit more balanced vs hand mining. They cost a lot of energy (configured to cost moer than default...) and dont give you the tons of ores that you normally get.

Your post got off on a tangant about society in general, I agree with you on most of it. It gets tiring sometimes how so many people are 'look at me look at me! see how great i am!' you might be interested in this book, it claims to explain why our sociey is becoming more and more narcissistic.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Spirit-Level-Equality-Societies/dp/1608193411

Im arguing that by mod devs not caring or not seeing apoint in redistribution, they are hurting the community as a whole. Which is fine if they feel that way.

The point is im not going to find 100 mod devs and post to ask for permission, or even go read their EULA. I dont have time. All it has done is to stifle innovation and creativity. Instead of releasing my pack that people might enjoy (which isnt true but someone else might make a pack that others would enjoy) ill just keep it private. The community might be missing out on 100s of fun packs just because people dont ahve time to go asking each mod dev for permission. I understand its copyright law, but copyrights protect IP, but it comes with a cost.

The best example I can come up with is S Korea. That country was poor, and it became an economic powerhouse by pirating software and information. If youre interested, thsi is a cool book if you enjoy economics.

http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Samaritans-Secret-History-Capitalism/dp/1596915986

The author grew up there, and he said that colleges there were using pirated software and pirated textbooks. If they had not done that their country would not have prospered as they could not have afforded to pay for textbooks and software to teach kids, etc. So copyright laws, IMO, are a double edged sword. They encourage innovation but it also makes things more expensive. In the case of minecraft mods, that added cost is 'time'. Copyright law in the US right now is pretty draconian and ive read many times that it has gotten so strong that its stifling innovation, not encouraging it.

On a side note: am I understanding your new ic2 addon correctly? I could build arrays of hundreds of solar panels, but not have it cause the lag? So the only downside of your addon vs one like compact solar panels would be loading all the chunks needed?

Yikes my dude. You did exactly what I told you not to do. Go back and reread my post. It says everything I would respond to this with.

But you say you pissed people off? I don't know that others are pissed, or at least I am not, I would say it's more of just like, "smh this guy doesn't want to listen to the truth." It's your gpu. Trust me. Or don't trust me, trust someone else in this thread. Not that guy who says to get VanillaFix tho, that doesn't fix the main problem.

I will say it one final time:
It. Is. Your. Lack. Of. Dedicated. GPU.

You do realize that vanilla minecraft uses openGL too, like it's not just mods that use it.

If you want anecdotal evidence then I will give you some. In a new world, max settings(with render distance 16), on minecraft version 1.12, pure vanilla, I get around 150-200fps depending on how fast I fly through the world loading chunks, but if I stand still I get from 200-500fps. Those are the numbers that you should be looking for from vanilla if you want to get runnable ftb packs with large amounts of mods

Now on enigmatica 2, I have to download that, because I still haven't gotten around to doing that for playing it in the first place lol

but before even getting the results from that I can again tell you that it is your gpu. I have a worse and older cpu, but I have an actual dedicated gpu

If you're responding, use something about java code, java optimization, java garbage collection, opengl rendering systems, or another graphics library that you think minecraft uses in your response. If you include none of that I am assuming that either you didn't read all my post just now, or that you don't know enough about those topics to comment. If the later is the case, then you should trust the opinion of those who do know enough about those topics to comment. I happen to know enough about those topics to comment, so trust what I am saying, it's your gpu. Get one.

I've got three suggestions for you:
1080ti: https://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-GEFORCE-GTX-1080-Ti/dp/B06XH5ZCLP
1060 6gb: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-1060-6G/dp/B01IEKYD5U
and the 1050ti 4gb dual fan: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-02G-P4-6150-KR/dp/B01M5BQRIO?th=1

three difference price ranges. 230, 330, and 1200

If you want my real opinion, get this one: https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-256-bit-Graphics-Backplate/dp/B07GG9L5X1

it's comparable to the 1080ti. Or if you want something a little cheaper but better than the 1060 get a 1070

I don't know. I studied Quantum mechanics at university (albeit briefly - I switched to another course two years in), and my opinion of qCraft has always been quite negative. It's a weird mod, and QM is definitely weird, and there are some roughly similar concepts (many QM "oddities" are based on measurement, and qCraft largely deals with observational changes)... but it just feels like it doesn't represent QM from a scientific point of view, but rather from a layman's point of view. It's the sort of education, which, while I guess technically not wrong, might also instil a lot of bad conceptions of QM.

I can't really pin down what good teaching of QM would look like, although if anyone is interested in trying to explain it to children, I'd highly recommend taking a look at Uncle Albert's Quantum Quest. I guess the two things that I'd really want to see in a Minecraft mod that tried to properly teach QM would be a) something akin to the double slit experiment (which - in it's many variations - explains a lot of what QM comes down to), and b) probability waves and distributions. Sure, there are mathematical and rigorous ways of teaching these that probably aren't appropriate for children, but most kids can comprehend the concept of things being more likely to end up in one place than another.

tl;dr - I'm not a fan of qCraft, because I don't think it teaches QM, but rather it tells everyone that QM is weird, which is not in of itself worthy of teaching.

For that kind of money, i'd suggest building a desktop.
Not only can I run FTB at around 60-80 fps with everything on high, but it only cost me around 470 ish dollars (without a hard drive or OS).

My Build:

Gigabyte B75M-D3h motherboard
HD radeon 7770 2GB GPU
intel Celeron G540 CPU
After market CPU heatsink
CX600M PSU
ATX-238 Raidmax case
2X4GB ram sticks

A SSD will be about 1$/gig
or a SATA hard drive will be cheaper

an OS is around 100$

total around 700/800



if you're set on a laptop, i'd suggest a ASUS or Lenovo laptop.
this ASUS latop here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B007S63H1S/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all
is pretty nice, it was the one i owned prior to my desktop and ran FTB rather well (around 20 fps)

Phew - thanks for clearing that up! Was worried I'd borked my RAM or something.

My saviour.

Now I just need better RAM. Time to do a buy. ;-)

EDIT: will this be better? I'm okay when it comes to PCs, however RAM always eludes me! Link to RAM.

I use a $500 Asus Vivobook with Ryzen 3500u and I've never had problems running MC on it. I'm currently playing on the Roguelike Adventures and Dungeons pack and I'm averaging in the high 50s with some tweaking in Optifine.

Mind you these tweaks are the same I run on my much more powerful desktop so I'm not really cutting quality down.

Edit: Product Link

a ssd will definitely increase performance then and given recent price drops around them you should be able to pick up one within your budget

£6 outside your budget but its a very good ssd http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-250GB-mSATA-Solid-State/dp/B00HFD9C5O/ref=sr_1_2?m=A2OAJ7377F756P&s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1417993391&sr=1-2

Weird the price went up from when i posted it but let me see if i can find it on amazon or something better.


EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4460-1150-BX80646I54460/dp/B00JIJUBAS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486771690&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4460


if you can stretch get https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1486771852&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+4690k

Do you have a after market cooler or the stock cooler that came with your 4150? the one for the 4150 should work as these two cpus dont come with a stock cooler.

Probably got them off the dragons. Dragons LOVE tacos.

here is the processor on amazon

Yeah, shes old. But silly me didn't enable -XX:ParallelGCThreads, which is the only saving grace of having an almost 10 year old hex-core to play on. I miss my i7 laptop.

Of course AMD can run modded MC, but OP asked for what specs he should look when building a pc. In that case, high single threaded performance is definitely something he wants. Even very moderately priced Intels (like this guy) beat out top of the line AMD if you're focusing on modded MC performance.

i meant don't buy 2 seperate 4GB RAM sticks. buy one 2x4GB RAM package, that way the 2 sticks are synced to eachother and run better than 2 seperate sticks

something like this https://www.amazon.de/Ballistix-BLS2C4G4D240FSB-Speicher-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFBZOLO

is cheap too.

I think more important than his eye not recognizing it is his screen not being able to display it. I think the highest refresh rate available right now is 240hz, and that's pretty hard to get your hands on.

The book Head First Design Patterns really helped me get my head around objects. I'm still nowhere near an expert, but it is a very engaging workbook.

you mean like this?

Would something like this fit the bill?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-i3-7100U-Graphics-Bluetooth-Windows/dp/B07VN6MR7F