Reddit mentions of ELAC Debut B4 Bookshelf Speaker (Black, Pair)

Hello, fellow Canadian!

DO NOT BUY THIS SYSTEM. You can get a MUCH better system for $25.49 more.

Check this out:

ELAC F5 Towers - $839.98

ELAC B4 Surrounds - $269.99

ELAC C5 Center - $319.99

BIC F12 Subwoofer - $295.53 (incl. shipping)

Sub-Total: $1725.49

I would recommend just getting ELAC B5s or B6s for the front speakers and you can save a couple hundred dollars more (which I might put towards a better subwoofer or a second subwoofer).

Sorry I wrote all that without directly addressing your question, but that Polk package is bad value (even though it's on sale) and the included subwoofer is a pile of steaming shyte.

So, for pairing speakers with a receiver, pretty much anything works. Denon, Marantz, and Yamaha are the most recommended brands here.

Gibby's Electronics sells the Denon X1300 for $399.99 (b-stock) but they're out of stock. They also have the S710W for $399.99 (b-stock, I don't get the pricing), which is probably your best option unless you're willing to wait for b-stock to come in for the X1300.

I recently purchased a town house, after renting a room for several years. Didn't have any furniture other than the bedroom essentials, so I had a pretty blank slate to work with.

I realize the layout isn't ideal, given the lighting and open floor layout (opens up to the dining room and kitchen), but I was more concerned with having a good hangout environment than having the prefect viewing experience. The only other option was an above ground basement, which would have had the same lighting issue, though better acoustics.

The lighting isn't as bad as it appears in the picture, imo. I've never really had a problem with it, though I do spend most of my time relaxing in the evenings when there is no direct sunlight coming from those windows. Even then, the Samsung seems to handle it well.


EDIT:
Additional pictures of the cable management.

https://i.imgur.com/iPxbpNz.jpg

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For the wall I used some 1/4" shaped wiremold from Home Depot. Sanded and spray painted it to match the existing 1/4" Round. For the rest of the power cables and such, I modified the middle drawer of an Ikea cabinet to hide them away and give me easy access. I'm still not quite sure what to do about the remaining outlet wires, but other than that there aren't any other visible cables.


EDIT 2:
Since I've been asked about pretty much every piece short of the coffee table, I figured I would update this post to consolidate that info. Most of these items I bought used or on sale.

TV - Samsung KS8500 65"

Reciever - Denon AVR-S720W

Speakers - ELAC UB5/UC5/UB5, Surrounds - B4

Subwoofer - Bic Acoustech PL-200 12"

Entertainment Center - Modified BESTÅ from Ikea

Speaker Stands - Sanus SF30 Steel Series

Couch - Corey Sectional from Havertys

Art - Patent Collections from Displate

Rug - [Safavieh Glacier from Overstock](https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Safavieh-Glacier-Contemporary-Abstract-Blue-Multi-
Area-Rug-6-7-x-9-67-x-9/14248766/product.html)

Bookshelves - Parthenia Etagere Bookcase from Wayfair

Coffee Table - Baxton Studio Wood/Metal End Table

Here's an option:

L/R: https://www.amazon.ca/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ ($332.20)

Center: https://www.amazon.ca/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE/ ($222)

Rears: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B01DKDJRH0 ($256)

Dual Subs: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B00SU63LUW/ ($1300)

Dual Subs: https://www.svsound.com/collections/dual-subwoofers#dual-1000-series ($1184.87)

About $100 over your budget, but I only sourced from Amazon.ca. You can probably get it where you need to be by shopping around. Component wise, ELAC bookshelfs are very solid for a mixture of movies and music. You could drop to one sub and free up extra money, for better speakers, but timber matching the whole set (within your budget) could become more difficult. Plus, dual subs is a real difference maker when it comes to consistent performance around the room.

Yes. Get a solid integrated amp and a Chromecast audio. Not sure about the Polks but the Kef Q100 is a great speaker for the money.

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/a-s301/index.html


Is a decent amp, paired with the Kefs should sound pretty good for your budget.

EDIT:

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1522690673&sr=8-9&keywords=elac


These are a great deal too

You won't get the 5.1 experience right away, but you will get more quality, and the ability to build slowly to the whole experience. I think you would be shocked how good a 2.0 setup can sound.

Go to accessories4less.com, and look up the Denon S530bt. It's $150 and should work great for you.

Then maybe hit up Amazon and check out the Elac Debut B4

Theres your $300, and it's a great start toward a quality setup.

After that as money allowed, you could add a sub, then a center, eventually surrounds.

Think about it :)

https://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Minx-Satellite-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00Y2BNNG6/ref=sr_1_4?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1483238103&sr=1-4&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Performance-Two-way-Surround-Speakers/dp/B00FRIKN6G/ref=sr_1_17?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1483238103&sr=1-17&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1483238103&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011


If you're feeling adventurous:

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-Bookshelf-Monitor-Speaker/dp/B0002KRALK/ref=sr_1_7?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1483238103&sr=1-7&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481579582&sr=1-7&refinements=p_4%3AElac


https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481579773&sr=1-2&keywords=andrew+jones+pioneer+speakers


https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=pd_sim_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QHMW6HGG544CS3GXG66Y

What's your amp budget?

https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-A-9010-Integrated-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B00SY20TE8


https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX8020-TX-8020-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B00EE18O7W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481579807&sr=1-1&keywords=onkyo+tx8020


https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481579937&sr=1-5&keywords=class+d+amp

If you can swing it I would go for the ELAC speakers and ONKYO A9010.

> Elac's

Okay I'll try the sony core one since I ordered it already so it would be here friday and if it's still shit I'll get these Elac Debut B4 $125/pair. If those are shit I guess I'll just have some more saving up to do

I have a 3.1 KEF Q100 Setup - I want to buy rear speakers to upgrade to 5.1 setup:

So far, I am looking at:

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S15-Bookshelf/dp/B01LVWWZS0 https://www.amazon.com/JBL-305PMKII-Powered-Studio-Monitor/dp/B077N2GQXC https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0

Any suggestions? Thanks so much

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/ref=pd_day0_hl_23_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01DKDJRH0&pd_rd_r=8434b54c-2fdf-11e9-be29-b3f9c735aeaf&pd_rd_w=2J3WY&pd_rd_wg=HoFvj&pf_rd_p=ad07871c-e646-4161-82c7-5ed0d4c85b07&pf_rd_r=92E00V74GWB7H0DYAZER&psc=1&refRID=92E00V74GWB7H0DYAZER

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Upgraded-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Streaming/dp/B0777B3TYQ/ref=sr_1_27?keywords=Stereo+receiver&qid=1550097369&s=electronics&sr=1-27

Denon X1200W (Receiver) - https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X1200W-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00ZY7FHXY/

ELAC B6 Pair (Front Left/Right) - https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/

ELAC C5 (Center) - https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE

ELAC B4 (Rear/Surrounds) - https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01DKDJRH0/

Klipsch R-10SW (Subwoofer) - https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-10SW-Powerful-10-Subwoofer/dp/B00MH42BBI

Totals to around $1300. You could probably get lesser speakers for the rears, as they aren't as important. Could also try to get a better sub, as you have an extra $200 left if you have a $1500 budget. The receiver supports both Dolby Atmos and DTS X, but if you want Atmos you'll need to buy either in ceiling speakers or the ELAC upfiring A4 speaker.

The Mod Team decided to place a more structured post on Black Friday deals. A lot of people are already invested in this thread so I will just sticky this here. Deals at some of the major retailers are likely to come and go often so it will be impossible to have this be fully accurate 100% of the time. If you have any deals you want to see in this sticky post feels free to message me(I WILL miss plenty of deals), otherwise you are still free to post below of course. Lastly, these are just good deals off of MSRP and I will generally post regardless of whatever personal thoughts I have on X, Y, or Z product. I will shortly add a few more categories beyond speakers.

Speakers:

Pioneer BS22 for $58 at Frys if you have a coupon code

Sony SSCS5 for $73 a PAIR on Amazon

Klipsch R-14M for $99 a PAIR on Amazon, Klipsch R-15M for $125 a PAIR on Amazon and Best Buy

Jamo C-103 for $129 a PAIR at Amazon KILLER Deal

Fluance Signature Series Bookshelf for $150 a PAIR on Amazon and Fluance. Keep watch for $99.

JBL LSR305 for $99 EACH on Amazon. At BH Photo same price but free isolation pads and no taxes outside of New York!

ELAC Debut B4 for $130 a PAIR on Amazon and ELAC B6 for $200 a PAIR on Amazon

Kef Q100 for $250 a PAIR from KefDirect

ELAC UB5 for $350 a PAIR on Amazon

Monolith K-BAS $180 EACH from Monoprice

Focal Super Bird for $250 a PAIR (BOGO) on Accessories4Les

Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SE for $330 a PAIR from Ascend and CMT-340SE for $548 a PAIR from Ascend

HSU CCB-8 Coaxial Speakers starting at $420 EACH or $764 a PAIR from HSU Research

JBL Studio 590 for $475 EACH direct from Harman Ebay. KILLER deal on these towers.

KEF LS50 for $999 a PAIR on Amazon and KEF Direct

Subwoofers:

BIC Acoustech PL-200 II for $250 from Amazon

SVS SB12-NSD for $400 from SVS Sound

SVS PB12-NSD for $500 from SVS Sound

Rythmik L12 for $509 from Ascend Acoustics and Rythmik Audio

HSU VTF-2 MK5 for $574 from HSU Research

Receivers/Amplifiers:

Sony STRDH130 Stereo Receiver for $85 on Amazon and Newegg

Denon AVR-S530BT refurb for $150 from Accessories4Less. Cheapest HDR-ready receiver you'll find out there.

Really you should check Accessories4Less.com if you're fine with good deals on Refurbished equipment.

Source Devices:
HIFIMAN MegaMini High-Res Music Player for $99 from HifiMan

Audio Technica LP-120 Turntable for $229 on Amazon

Headphones:

Audio Technica MSR7 for $150 on Amazon

HifiMan HE400i for $219 from HifiMan

Monolith M560 for $150 from Monoprice and Monolith M1060 for $250 from Monoprice

Sites to Look At Outside of the typical Walmart, Best Buy, and Amazon here are some sites worth checking out for Black Friday deals:

RBH.com (Specifically their sales page is a bit of a goldmine)

Monoprice.com

KEFdirect.com (if you want to “evade” sales tax and check out the whole lineup)

Accessories4Less.com

AcousticSoundDesign.com (Website ain’t the nicest but some great packages)

Current setup...

• FiiO D3 DAC
  
• Onkyo TX-910 receiver
  
• Bose Model 21 bookshelf speakers
  
• Celestion CS135 passive sub woofer
  Would like to upgrade the bookshelf speakers, preferably passive, looking in the 4-5" range. Listen to everything from dubstep, miami bass, classical, hip-hop, adult contemporary...
  
  I had some Klipsch Promedia 2.1's but they died after 2 years. They were ok, but want something with better sound, my current setup has been pulled out of storage from the late 90s ;)
  
  I would like to spend in the $200-300 range for a pair.
  
  **EDIT: These are some that i'm currently looking at:
  Fluance Signature Series HiFi Two-way Bookshelf
  Klipsch R-14M
  Elac B4
  
  

I think you would probably want to go with the Elac Debut series speakers.

Elac B6 RL $280

Elac C5 center $180

Elac B4 surrounds $180

Either the Dayton 12 inch sub for $128 +shipping or the BIC F12 $209 for a bit more

Then check out accessories4less for a receiver