Reddit mentions of FiiO L7 Line Out Dock (LOD) Cable For E7 USB DAC/AMP

uhh you might wana use this instead between your phone and fiio to shorten that cable or alternatively a fiio L15 (same thing but with flat cable instead)

and isnt it double amping when running e07k > o2? maybe use this so you only use the fiio as a dac? http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Line-Out-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S


edit: or why not just the fiio on its own when travelling?

If you canbypass the internal Apple amp, then the [Fiio L7] (http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Line-Out-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S) connects to the E17 and to line in / USB. When using the L7, there is a LO BYPASS slider on the side of the E17 which when selected bypasses the onboard amp on the E17 and allows it to output as DAC only.

However using Apple line out does NOT bypass the Apple DAC. For that you need a compatible Android device with USB LOD.

BTW this also works when the E17 is plugged into the E09, avoiding double amping.

It's called the Fiio L7
Link: http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Line-Out-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404277878&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+l7
The line out side is connected to a 3.5 to RCA going into the Magni, while the usb line in is going into the source. It allows me to bypass the amp on the E7 and just use the dac. An advantage to this is I can just use the E7 as a portable dac and amp combo, instead of a dedicated home setup.
Edit: I saw in your tag you have the E09K, it's basically that, but if you already had an amp.

Most TVs should have Optical or Aux out, and then you would use a L7 to give a line out connection to your amp.

Is the DAC component of the e17 fully transparent like DACs such as the odac and Modi? I have a Violectric V100 that I need a DAC for and I have an e17. If the e17 is transparent I want to get a line out dock ( http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=pd_sim_e_5 ) for it to bypass the amp component. If it's not, I'll probably get this dac- http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/products/usm-24-96.php .

If I get the vio DAC I would most likely sell the e17.

This will be my second time typing this out, since I hit the fucking Browser-Back shortcut on my mouse.

I wouldn't recommend the Koss Plugs as a set of mixing phones, even while travelling. The clarity is simply nonexistant. My suggestion is just to use them as a second pair to check out your bassline before you finalize a track. For something more balanced, you might want to set aside an hour or two and drag your eyeballs over this thread over at head-fi.

As an off-the-cuff recommendation, Velodyne vPulse have gained quite a reputation in the under-$150 category. they have plenty of bass output, but it's much tighter than the Koss, no muddiness. They also get plenty of compliments on the detail in the midrange/treble.

/r/Audiophile is a great resource, as is /r/Headphones, but to save yourself from shame, I will tell you ahead of time, anything called a soundcard will almost certainly get you laughed out.

Puts on top hat and monocle, raising a cup of tea with the pinky out

>A gentleman uses a DAC with a seperate Headphone Amplifier.

In all fairness a soundcard is nothing but a DAC with a built-on amp, though the integrated amp circuits are terrible, in terms of audio reproduction.

You can get a DAC and feed an amp with it, or you can get a DAC/Amp combo, which is a popular place to begin, and is a great solution for a personal digital studio, especially if you use your laptop as a creative device away from home. The most recommended (for good reason) is the FiiO e7. It performes both the DAC and amplifier functions, as well as including an input jack and a battery so you can stick it in your pocket and connect it to your ipod/phone/whatever and increase the quality of your portable listening as well (This bypasses the DAC and only uses the amp). The only drawback to the e7 is that the amp is kind of puny. Mind you it is still more powerful than whatever is built into your devices, but it can leave you wanting if you have some high-end, high-impedance headphones. To solve that, you can either get a FiiO e9 amplifier to leave on your desk and dock the e7 to when you are at home, or you can pick up a FiiO e17 which is almost identical to the e7, but with more juice to the amp. You mentioned a speaker setup at home, so you would also want a FiiO l7 line out plug so you could run the un-amped output of the DAC to your speakers. Keep in mind, none of this passes as "Audiophile grade" hardware, but it's certainly (digital) studio quality.

All in all, an e7 and a pair of vPulse IEMs would set you back about $150, give you the low-end you need, a full-up system you could pack in your pocket while you're on the move, and also boost the quality of your 8400's, and whatever monitors you choose at home.

I'll get off my soapbox now. Hopefully that gives you a head start on your research.

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^tiny ^disclaimer: I don't work for FiiO, I'm not trying to sell you FiiO stuff, I don't even use FiiO myself. They just have a great reputation, and market at a reasonable price-range.

I'm not familiar with the E17, but it looks like they sell an attachment for it that adds a line-level output bypassing the amp section for about $10. It'd be cheaper than a new independent DAC

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S

This one is supposed to work on the e7 and e17. also I'd use toslink over USB myself, though the difference is minimal. I've noticed slight noise with usb DACs, though only while listening to silence and under high amplification, so maybe it isn't significant enough to matter.

sorry L1 was incorrect, meant the L7.

but it really doesn't matter, the E17K+K5 has replaced the old E17+E09K combo.

The line out is not built in, so don't be mistaken - the FiiO E7 has line out capabilities. Here is the one I bought from them on Amazon that I use with my AE A2's -> http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L7-Line-Dock-Cable/dp/B004QVNS0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323213276&sr=8-1

I'm not sure if the E7 has FiiO's 18 pin connector, but they do make an attachment that bypasses the amp section and adds a line out to a few of their portable amps. You could look into that.

EDIT: Yup. The E7 has the connector. This would add line out.

I have an E17. Since this is a combination DAC/amp, is it inadvisable to use it with another amp? I'd like to have an O2. My understanding is that if I bought this line out connector I would be bypassing the amplification of the E17 and it would be fine to use it with an O2. Is there any problem with this plan?

The reviews on Amazon seem to be backing me up, but I feel like I can trust the users here more to point out any issues.