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Reddit mentions of NETGEAR 8-Port Smart Managed Plus Switch, 10G Ethernet, ProSAFE Lifetime Protection (XS708E)
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Reddit mentions: 14
We found 14 Reddit mentions of NETGEAR 8-Port Smart Managed Plus Switch, 10G Ethernet, ProSAFE Lifetime Protection (XS708E). Here are the top ones.
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- 8 ports deliver up to 10Gbps of dedicated, non-blocking bandwidth per port
- Simple, yet useful network set-up on top of plug-and-play connectivity.
- VLAN support, Quality of Service (QoS), and Auto "denial-of-service" (DoS) prevention
- Loop prevention, broadcast storm controls, Port trunking, Port mirroring & Jumbo Frame Support
- IGMP snooping for multicast optimization & Rate limiting for better bandwidth allocation
- LIFETIME WARRANTY
- LIFETIME Next Business Day Replacement
- LIFETIME 24/7 Advanced Tech Support via chat
Features:
Specs:
Height | 13.74 Inches |
Length | 22.44 Inches |
Size | 8 Port (v1) |
Weight | 3 Pounds |
Width | 3.54 Inches |
I'm not sure it's worth it anymore. 10 Gbit/s Ether has gone down in price, and you can work with your existing structured cabling.
E.g. http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-ProSAFE-10-Gigabit-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6/ and Intel NICs are down to about 300 USD, or so.
You can have a pair of compute nodes and a storage node communicating over 40GbE or 40GT/s Infiniband for about $450.
If you need to scale to the point where you have switching hardware, it does get a bit pricier, but 10GbE is not impossibly expensive.
Most affordable one that comes to mind is the NetGear ProSafe XS708E - http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453474631&sr=8-2&keywords=netgear+XS712T $760
Short answer: yes.
Quick side note: you're looking at 10Gb (bit), not 10GB (byte).
Some clarification is possibly necessary here. You're probably using something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6
In which case, it has 8 ports that can deliver 10Gb each, and ONLY 8 ports that can deliver Gb each (no other ports). It will bottleneck IF, and only if, you are trying to push more than 10Gb at once from this switch to the next one up/downstream from it. Whether this is occuring is highly variable based on your environment.
Many switches have a configuration more like this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122436
The bulk of ports are gigabit (1Gb), and it has 10Gb capable uplinks, so you have less congestion. Same concept with 10Gb switches with 40Gb/100Gb uplinks, etc.
Finally, what you seem to be thinking of is how hubs work(ed). If you have an 8-port 10Gb hub (does such a thing exist? I hope not), then your available bandwidth is reduced by the number of connected machines. The (simplified) technical reason for this is that a hub sends packets to all connected computers. If a packet destined for 192.168.1.1 is received by a computer at 192.168.1.2, it ignores the packet. With a switch, it keeps track of which devices are on which port. A packet destined for 192.168.1.1 is sent out port 4, because the switch knows that's where it is.
The cheapest 10GE copper switch that I know of is the NETGEAR ProSAFE XS708E 8-Port 10G Ethernet Switch 8 Ports $850
Netgear has this one: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6
I doubt you'll find fanless though. That's too much data to move without some way to dissipate heat.
Hmm, I may have to get a switch then if that's the case... Do you happen to know of one that isn't like over $4,000 and would work for my use case? Would this one work http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1453737111&sr=8-3&keywords=10+gigabit+switch ?
I will only order one after I verify that end-to-end connectivity won't work like I think it will...
With that said, there is literally a guy in this thread who has a Windows desktop like me with two 10 gigabit ports and connects them to two different servers on the same subnet... It is literally a point-to-point/direct connection, how would that not work for file sharing? He showed me a screenshot of his speeds while filesharing and he definitely takes advantage of his 10 gigabit connection, hes using Windows on his desktop and isn't using a switch..
Simple, just put a $850 switch by every set of home machines.
Thanks for adding your voice to the conversation- lots of really helpful stuff in there. Now that I've got you roped in...... a few more questions!
Ok so here is my planned setup: let me know if the price is realistic.
Corsair 10 bay PC case ($100) + Ryzen CPU ($250) + asus mobo ($200) + 32GB ECC Ram ($100) + PSU ($100)
PC Cost: $750
10GbE card: $200
Raid Rocket Controller: $300
10GbE Ethernet switch used (recommendations?): $400
8x 8TB WD Red drives = 8 x $180 = $1500
$3150 for a 64TB RAID Z2 which would equate to 40TB usable, or 30TB real world w/ 20% performance buffer.
Any other hidden costs you can think of? All other stations would be at 1GbE probably.
To be fair Google's 10Gbps fiber is about three years away, not one. A switch for your home to support 7 PCs still costs $800. 10Gbase-T adapters for PCs are also still expensive, though in three years they will be less so - or standard. They won't have to replace the fiber though. The same single-mode fiber they are running to every home supports speeds up to 100Gbps already, and probably more eventually.
Agree that the current providers don't want to build it.
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1462389887&sr=1-1&keywords=10gb+switch
Netgear for the router (there are used Qsap Lv 2switches from Facebook that are 10GbE, as well as the Mikrotik Cloudrouter, but the Netgear should be the easiest to setup and get working).
/r/homelab might help too with the server build.
As for the CPU itself, why not Xeon? ECC RAM should help its reliability. Speed of said RAM is hardly noticeable.
SSD: It's weird to have M2 drives be RAID 1, since I don't think you can hot swap those out. Nevertheless, it's a solid choice.
Finally, PSU, just get the best you can buy.
Silentpcreview's 4K Build is pretty recent; you can choose the PSU and case they recommend.
Hahahaha $1800 each, just buy a switch.
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-XS708E-Ethernet-XS708E-100NES/dp/B00B46AEE6
Nice find though.
That must be why 10GbE is starting to appear on consumer switches, and the upper end of consumer gear.
Thecus, QNAP and other NAS manufacturers now have low-cost models that ship with 10GBase-T installed from the factory
Reason: A single run of the mill HDD can totally saturate gigabit Ethernet
Got it. Enjoy your "office with 12 people."