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1. StarTech.com 12U Open Frame Server Rack - 4 Post Adjustable Depth (22" to 40") Network Equipment Rack w/ Casters/ Levelers/ Cable Management (4POSTRACK12U),Black
- ADJUSTABLE DEPTH: 12U Open frame rack with four vertical rails rack for servers & network equipment w/ adjustable mounting depth 22" to 40" (59cm to 104cm); maximize available space with 25" (64 cm) height, for integration in utility or server closet
- EASY ASSEMBLY: Mobile computer equipment rack with assembly instructions & easy-to-follow online video; compact flat pack shipping/packaging design to avoid damage and facilitate problem-free installations
- COLD ROLLED STEEL: Durable 4 Post 19" EIA/ECA-310-E open frame designed for ventilation with 12U mounting height, 1200lb (544lbs) capacity, 3 install options included: casters, levelling feet, or base-plate to secure rack to the floor
- HARDWARE INCLUDED: Rolling rack with cage nuts & screws to mount equipment, easy to read Units (U) & depth adjustment markings, cable management hooks for organization, with required assembly tools
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2. Supermicro Mini-ITX SoC Xeon D-1521 4-Core, FCBGA 1667 Motherboard - X10SDV-4C-TLN2F-O
- Intel Xeon processor D-1520/1521, Single socket FCBGA 1667; 4-Core, 8 Threads, 45W
- Up to 128GB ECC RDIMM DDR4 2133MHz or 64GB ECC/non-ECC UDIMM in 4 sockets
- 6x SATA3 (6Gbps) ports via SoC
- Expansion slot: 1x PCIe 3.0 x16 M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4, M Key 2242/2280
- 2x USB 3.0 ports (rear); 4x USB 2.0 ports (via headers)
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3. CableCreation Internal Mini SAS SFF-8087 to Right Angle SFF-8087 Cord, Internal Mini SAS to Mini SAS Cable, Compatible with RAID or PCI Express Controller, 2.5FT /0.75M
- No glue required for assembly, a hobby nipper is required to remove parts from runners
- Colored plastic, little to no paint required to replicate appearance
- Product bears official Bluefin Distribution logo ensuring purchaser is receiving authentic licensed item from approved U.S. retailer
- Bluefin Distribution products are tested and comply with all U.S. consumer product safety regulations and are eligible for consumer support
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4. NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U
- Dimensions: 1.88"H x 2.75"W x 20.13"D
- 110 pound weight capacity
- Depth can be adjusted up to 33.25" deep
- Non-vented
- No Lip
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5. VELCRO Brand ONE-WRAP Cable Ties | 100Pk | 8 x 1/2" Black Cord Organization Straps | Thin Pre-Cut Design | Wire Management for Organizing Home, Office and Data Centers
- WIRE ORGANIZING SELF BUNDLING TIES - Get organized fast with these simple to use, self-fastening thin ties that will contain and store cords and wires quickly and safely; Secure large cords and bulky cables with ease for a neat finish
- WIRE AND CORD MANAGEMENT - These bundling ties are ideal fasteners for cord organization, wire management, and securing loose or extra-long cords out of the way to eliminate tripping hazards
- STRONG AND REUSABLE - Strong, trusted, and used by data and network centers across the globe; These fasteners can be easily reused and repositioned; Allows convenient access when arranging computer, appliances and electronic wires
- PRE-CUT AND EASY TO USE - These pre-cut ties stay firmly in place with an easy to use slotted head; simply insert the rounded end through the hole and pull the strap tight; it firmly wraps onto itself for a secure hold
- INDOOR OR OURDOOR USE - With multi-use options for the home, shed, garage or office, these thin ties can safely be used indoors or outdoors for your organizing and storage needs
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6. StarTech.com 25U Open Frame Server Rack - 4 Post Adjustable Depth (22" to 40") Network Equipment Rack w/ Casters/ Levelers/ Cable Management (4POSTRACK25U),Black
- ULTIMATE VERSATILITY: With an adjustable mounting depth of 20 to 40", this open frame server rack provides you with a customized data storage solution for your IT equipment
- USER FRIENDLY: This 25U rack offers easy-to-read markings for both rack units (U) and depth; it has a wide range of mounting depth adjustments that make it easy to adapt to fit your equipment
- BUILT TO LAST: This durable 4-post rack supports up to 1200 pounds (544 kilogram), has a total product height of 50.8 inch / 129 centimeter (with casters), 48 inch / 120 cm (without casters), and is EIA/ECA-310, IEC 60297, DIN 41494 compliant
- HASSLE-FREE SET UP: The server rack includes accessories such as casters, levelling feet and cable management hooks; the base is pre-drilled for securely fastening the rack to the floor if needed
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7. CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS System, 1500VA/1000W, 12 Outlets, AVR, Mini Tower
- 1500VA/1000W PFC Sine Wave Battery Backup Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) System designed to support active PFC and conventional power supplies; Safeguards computers, workstations, network devices, and telecom equipment
- 12 NEMA 5-15R OUTLETS: Six battery backup & surge protected outlets, six surge protected outlets; INPUT: NEMA 5-15P right angle, 45 degree offset plug with five foot power cord; 2 USB charge ports (1 Type-A, 1 Type-C) quickly charges mobile phones and tablets
- MULTIFUNCTION, COLOR LCD PANEL: Displays immediate, detailed information on battery and power conditions; Color display alerts users to potential issues before they can affect critical equipment and cause downtime; Screen tilts up to 22 degrees
- AUTOMATIC VOLTAGE REGULATION (AVR): Corrects minor power fluctuations without switching to battery power, thereby extending the life of the battery
- 3-YEAR WARRANTY – INCLUDING THE BATTERY; dollars500,000 Connected Equipment Guarantee and FREE PowerPanel Management Software (Download)
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8. Rosewill 4U Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case Support with 15 Bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500)
Superb Scalability: Support up to 15 internal 3.5" HDDs and seven expansion slots, so users can expand your server system easily.Unmatched Cooling: 2 x 80mm rear fans, 3 x 120mm front fans and 3 x 120mm middle fans, total 8 cooling fans deliver exceptional thermal performance you can rely on.Front D...

9. Mikrotik CSS326-24G-2S+RM 24 port Gigabit Ethernet switch with two SFP+ ports
Cloud Smart Switch 326-24G-2S+RM is SwOS powered 24 port Gigabit Ethernet switch with two SFP+ portIt gives you all the basic functionality for a managed switch, plus moreAllows to manage port-to-port forwarding, apply MAC filter, configure VLANs, mirror traffic, apply bandwidth limitation and even ...

10. ZOTAC ZBOX CI323 nano Fanless Mini PC Intel N3150 CPU Intel HD Graphics Native 4K support Dual Gigabit LAN 802.11ac Wi-Fi Bluetooth (ZBOX-CI323NANO-U)
Passively Cooled – Silent PerformanceIntel N3150 Processor (quad-core 1.6 GHz, up to 2.08GHz)Triple Display capableNative 4K support (H.265, H.264 decode)Compact palm-sizedVESA Mountable

11. Noctua NF-A4x10 FLX, Premium Quiet Fan, 3-Pin (40x10mm, Brown)
- Premium quiet fan, 40x40x10 mm, 12V, 3-pin Molex, 4500/3700 RPM, max. 17.9 dB(A), >150,000 h MTTF
- Award-winning 40x10mm A-series fan with Flow Acceleration Channels and Advanced Acoustic Optimisation frame for superior quiet cooling performance
- Ideal replacement for noisy or broken 12V 4cm fans in 3D printers, DVRs, NAS, switches, routers, other network and storage devices, etc.
- 3-pin 12V FLX version can be run 4500 or 3700 rpm using the supplied Low-Noise Adaptors to fine-tune the fan for maximum airflow or near-silent operation
- Includes anti-vibration mounts, fan screws, Low-Noise Adaptor, extension cable and OmniJoin adaptor set for connecting the fan to proprietary fan headers
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12. TP-Link 8 Port Gigabit Ethernet Network Switch | Ethernet Splitter | Plug and Play | Fanless | Sturdy Metal w/ Shielded Ports | Traffic Optimization | Unmanaged | Lifetime Protection (TL-SG108)
- One Switch Made to Expand Network 8× 10/100/1000Mbps RJ45 Ports supporting Auto Negotiation and Auto MDI/MDIX
- Gigabit that Saves Energy Latest innovative energy-efficient technology greatly expands your network capacity with much less power consumption and helps save money
- Reliable and Quiet IEEE 802.3X flow control provides reliable data transfer and Fanless design ensures quiet operation
- Plug and Play Easy setup with no software installation or configuration needed
- Advanced Software Features Prioritize your traffic and guarantee high quality of video or voice data transmission with Port-based 802.1p/DSCP QoS and IGMP Snooping
- Study Metal Case Fanless Quiet Design, Desktop or Wall-mounting Design. Operating Temperature: 0 degree Celsius -40 degree Celsius (32 degree Fahrenheit -104 degree Fahrenheit)
- Limited Lifetime Protection Industry leading limited lifetime protection and free 24/7 technical support
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13. Cable Matters Internal Mini SAS to SATA Cable (SFF-8087 to SATA Forward Breakout) 3.3 Feet
- Internal Mini SAS data cable connects a RAID or PCIe controller with an SFF-8087 port to 4 discrete SATA drives; Mini SAS to SATA adapter provides reliable internal connectivity between a Serial attached SCSI controller card in a computer system and direct attached storage devices with a SATA connector
- Leverage hardware raid performance with this SATA multi-lane cable; Two cables can connect up to 8 SATA drives to span RAID controller arrays and share performance across two PCIe 2.0 x8 lanes with compatible host bus adapters; Supports up to 6Gbs data transfer rate per drive
- DIY or pro installers both appreciate the convenience of a forward fan-out cable with an internal mSAS connector when expanding storage needs; 3 foot cable harness of SAS to SATA cable provides sufficient length for internal cable management; Slim ribbon cables minimize airflow impact in a computer case
- Flexible design of SAS breakout cable includes acetate cloth tape over slim ribbon cables for strain relief to protect cables without rigidity; Woven mesh sheath covers half of the cable for easy routing; P1 to P4 markers provide easy ID after installation; Low profile SATA connectors have easy-grip treads with stainless steel latches to prevent accidental disconnection and reduce vibration disconnection
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14. Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax Adapter, 2 Pack (ECB6200K02), Black
ECB6200 MoCA ADAPTER USES A HOME'S EXISTING COAX WIRING to create a fast, reliable Ethernet connection between a router and any device with an Ethernet port. With speeds up to 1 Gbps, Bonded MoCA 2. 0 outperforms wireless for speed, latency, reliability, and security.ENHANCE YOUR HOME'S WI-FI NETWOR...

15. HP NC364T PCIe 4Pt Gigabit Server Adptr
Hewlett Packard 435508-b21 - Network Adapter - Plug-in Card, Quad (4-port) Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit EthernetPCI Express 1.0a, Fits in x4, x8, or x16Low profile with half height and full height bracketTwo Intel 82571EB processors, 256 KB memory

16. CyberPower CPS1215RMS Surge Protector, 120V/15A, 12 Outlets, 15ft Power Cord, 1U Rackmount
120V/15A Rackmount Surge Protector provide critical power protection for data centers, network closets, and VoIP Phone systems.Output: 12 NEMA 5–15R Outlets (6 Front and 6 Rear); Input: NEMA 5–15P Straight Plug With 15 Feet Power Cord.Versatile Rackmount Options: Allow for Installation of the PD...

17. Rosewill 4U Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case with 8 Bays & 4 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-R4000)
- Superb Scalability : With three 5.25-inch external bays (which can switch to a 3.5-inch HDD x 4 module), eight 3.5-inch internal drive bays, and seven expansion slots, you can expand your server computer easily.
- Excellent Cooling Design with 4 included case fan : The rackmount server chassis is engineered with optimal cooling in mind. Two 120mm front fans and two 80mm rear fans are included in the chassis to keep your whole system well ventilated
- Extra Clever Designs : The RSV-R4000 features dual USB 2.0 connectors on the front panel for easy connectivity.
- Motherboard Compatibility: The Rack-mount server chassis is compatible with Motherboard: CEB (12" x 10.5") and ATX (12" x 9.6") and below
- Front Panel Lock: Stylish Black with front panel lock provides a better security for your rackmount server case
- Solid and Steady Structure : A solid 4U rack mount industrial server case combines huge rooms, security, and expansion all together
- HDD Screwless Design : Users can easily take off the hard drives with the screwless cage and modular release buttons.
- Tremendous capacity :RSV-R4000 commits with vast room to meet your demand for an outstanding system. Dimensions (H x W x D)-7 x 16.8 x 21 inches (Including panel). 7 x 16.8 x 23 inches (With handles, including panel)
- Motherboard Compatibility: CEB (12" x 10.5") and ATX (12" x 9.6")
- Front door with key lock for better security
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18. CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD Intelligent LCD UPS System, 1500VA/900W, 12 Outlets, AVR, Mini-Tower
- 1500VA/900W Intelligent LCD Battery Backup Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) System uses simulated sine wave output to safeguard workstations, networking devices, and home entertainment equipment
- 12 NEMA 5-15R OUTLETS: Six battery backup & surge protected outlets; Six surge protected outlets; INPUT: NEMA 5-15P right angle, 45 degree offset plug with six foot power cord
- MULTIFUNCTION LCD PANEL: Displays immediate, detailed information on battery and power conditions, including: estimated runtime, battery capacity, load capacity, etc
- AUTOMATIC VOLTAGE REGULATION (AVR): Corrects minor power fluctuations without switching to battery power, thereby extending the life of the battery
- 3-YEAR WARRANTY – INCLUDING THE BATTERY; dollars500,000 Connected Equipment Guarantee and FREE PowerPanel Personal Edition Management Software (Download)
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19. Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite - Wireless Access Point - 802.11 B/A/G/n/AC (UAPACLITEUS), White
- Ubiquiti Networks networks Unifi AC Lite AP Wi-Fi 802.22
- 2.4 GHz Speed : 300 Mbps, 5 GHz Speed : 867 Mbps
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20. P3 P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor
- Choose from the Kill-a-Watt's four settings to monitor your electrical usage
- Monitor your electrical usage by day, week, month, or year
- Features easy-to-read screen
- Electricity usage monitor connects to appliances and assesses efficiency
- Large LCD display counts consumption by the kilowatt-hour
- Calculates electricity expenses by the day, week, month, or year
- Displays volts, amps, and wattage within 0.2 - 2.0percent accuracy
- Compatible with inverters; designed for use with AC 115-volt appliances
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Man, aren't all of us newbies?
Okay, so for a not-real rack option with high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) generally stacked IKEA Lacks are the newbie option. You can get creative but generally mounting with screws is pretty meh, generally it's more or less organized stacking. A slightly better option in the same avenue is the newer Ikea Hejne option possibly pioneered by /u/TheGammel. Just make sure you get the deeper one.
For a DIY solution on the cheapish with casters, TBS blog did a guide on making an open rack that doesn't look terrible as the halfway point for an enclosed rack that's pretty good for only $400-ish (the open is more like 130 assuming you have neither rails nor panels). It looks better than the even-cheaper Home Server Blog one.
As far as other entry level racks go, you're probably looking at a Startech adjustable or similar, assuming you want conveniences like castors for easier maintenance and rear access. Other people ITT probably have other alternatives but it's hard to compete with the TBS DIY cost for a new rack.
This all assumes, of course, that you have a full size server somewhere, and that Craigslist scores from luck and patience aren't an option. IME there aren't a lot of 20-25u deep racks being thrown out by companies like there are the huge 42u or higher ones. If you don't mind there are two-post racks out there, along of course with weird little Ikea RAST mods for shorter networking gear (typically, one guy slapped two together for a longer server).
> My experience with server hardware is nonexistent, but I got the impression that Xeon D's run hot and require quite a lot cooling. (= more noise + power bill swells)
Uhhh... do you see a fan on this? ;) Yes, it's passively cooled.
My own board for a Xeon D has an active cooler and frankly it was ungodly loud because I bought it used and some idiot plugged in a 3-pin cooler instead of a 4-pin one. Resulting in 7200 RPM. But once I connected a proper 4-pin one... well... this server is exactly 3 steps from me right now. I have napped next to it an hour ago too. Under normal workloads it's whisper quiet (do note - I did put it in the standard tower chassis and used proper 120mm Be Quiet fans connected to a fan controller that reduced their voltage to 5V to give it airflow, I also use a standard ATX power supply with 135mm fan, not rack jet engines). Those chips are only rated 25-45W (depending on the version... and yes, I know that TDP =/= real power consumption) so they kinda fit your deal of "build a power efficient and quiet lab". Under full load I think I can get to like 85W... which is less than many servers do in idle.
As for your workload - stuff like firewall can be actually resource hungry once you start playing with QoS, deep packet inspection etc. For instance apparently you need like 350€ router (Ubiquiti employee straight out said it) if you want to somewhat keep up with 500 Mbps connection with QoS enabled.
You should be fine with Atom I think honestly considering your wokload. Just get at least 8 cores considering I can count quite a lot of VMs being used if you want to simulate a whole corporate network (this can legit take 15+ of them for core infrastructure).
I can’t say enough good things about this server rack.
StarTech.com 4POSTRACK25U 25U Adjustable Depth Open Frame 4 Post Server Rack Cabinet - w/Casters / Levelers and Cable Management Hooks https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6GNLQE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2p38BbWTEMTBZ
This is the one I have at home. It has cable management hooks. It also comes with casters and levelers which many companies (like Tripp-lite) charge extra for.
It is an open frame rack. It’s expandable and will go much deeper than Dell servers will need. Which is good for future expansion.
When I ordered my first one, the box didn’t include any of the bolts to assemble the rack or the casters or balancers. I called Amazon Business support and they told me that the rack was super heavy and that I could keep it for free and they would send me another one. I then called star tech support and they sent me a free tool kit with my missing stuff. Essentially, I got a second rack completely free because amazon business customer service is super awesome and because the heavy rack would’ve been expensive for them to ship back.
Amazon rocks.
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All these only pull about 40w, my next upgrade is probably to invest in a decent rack so I can have a better cable management.
No one told me this when I started so I'll tell you:
I think we should specify here that "server rack" and "network rack" are built differently. If you want a rack for networking and just the 24 port switch and patch panel, you'd look at something like this. If you're wanting to eventually put a full-length server in, you'll need something like this instead the difference being that the second one is built to support the length and weight of a full server.
Keep in mind when you purchase a server you'll need to buy rails that attach to the rack for it. The server then sits in the extended rails, which slide back into the rack.
Startech makes pretty good stuff, IMO. I've seen them on here before. I have the four post rack that I linked to in the second post and it's served me well. The best thing you can do however, if you have the room, is to jump on craigslist and see if you can find an enterprise getting rid of their rack. Generally those are worth thousands new and the companies are selling them for $40, or something ridiculous like that. I didn't have access to a truck, so that's why I bought mine.
Note that with the large rack you can add networking equipment too, and can also get shelves to support things that aren't rackable.
For power you can either get a rackable UPS or power strip.
Hope this helps. Have fun.
You don't have to do top tier everything for a homelab.
Most people will never need managed switches, much less Cisco branded stuff. TP-Link makes competent and reasonably priced dumb switches.
For the router, I used to run pfSense on a custom PC build (~$300 about 6 years ago) but I'm already familiar with enterprise router settings and found all the features I could want in a consumer grade Asus router. At the end of the day, port forwarding, WiFi and OpenVPN are everything I'd ever want it to do. I can offload any heavy lifting or advanced features to my server.
If you're not looking to be super fancy, here's a simple homelab setup:
You can swap up or down based on needs but the router does all the basic stuff most people will need it to do. The 24 port switch should be more than enough as the primary switch for most people. The 8 port switch is great for secondary locations. The diskstation can handle your backups and cloud storage and is a nice balance of convenience and price. The R710 server can handle Plex, NAS duties and probably some light duty VMs.
The big add-on expense will be the hard drives, of course. You could probably get by shucking the 10TB easystore drives to save a bit.
I use a custom built server (Xeon E3-1231 v3 @ 3.4GHz, 16 GB RAM, built around 2012 and upgraded the CPU a few years ago) and have never owned a R710 myself, so I can't say much on the actual limits of what you can do with it. That said, I'm suddenly really tempted to grab a R710 to use as network storage because I've reached the limit of my current server. The biggest weakness I see in the R710 is the CPU isn't too beefy but its still decent given the sheer number of (8)cores/(16)threads. Plex and less demanding game servers are probably the limit of what it can handle but it should easily handle a number of less demanding VMs.
Anyways, as a starter setup, this should more than satisfy most people.
So when I originally moved in to my house last year, I set things up in a very temporary setup that became more permanent than I was hoping. I also had to bring another box home from my office when we moved locations and we no longer had a dedicated internet connection so I couldn't expose anything directly to the internet.
I've been looking at setups from everyone for a while now, getting ideas of what I needed and I finally settled on the following:
I don't intend on purchasing full sized rack mount servers as I just use desktop class hardware for the most part but I took the two systems that I had in desktop cases and put them in the Rosewill cases that I've seen a lot of people use and a coworker recently suggested them as well as he recent did a rack setup. Since I don't need full size servers, I decided to go with a 4 post "network" rack as I don't really need the extra depth. I'm just using a 1U blank to help stabilize the servers in the rack so they're not just hanging from the front.
If anyone is looking to get some of the same components, I would say that the 1U shelves that I bought don't really work that well as I had to get creative with the brackets to make them work and they do extend out the back a bit but I knew they would do that when I purchased them, I just didn't realize I would have to flip around some brackets to make it work.
My network is really basic so I went with a 24 port unmanaged gigabit switch. I did have to get some POE injectors for my 3 WAPs as I did have a 8 port switch that had built in POE before but I knew that 8 ports wasn't going to cut it and I wanted to go with a rack mount switch.
Future plans are to replace the 3 regular PSUs with something rack mountable. Right now I have one PSU for each box and then the 3rd is for all of the network equipment. I'd also like to get a KVM but for right now I have HDMI cables ran to the side where I can easily switch them out and the keyboard I only plug into the front panels if I need it.
Wow, I didn't even know this was a thing. I'll need to look at our coax wiring, but this might be the best throughput speed solution and I'm pretty sure out coax comes into the garage and splits from there, so it should work. Also looks like it'll be double what I'd pay for powerline though.
It looks like the Actiontec ECB6200 is currently the only product on the market that gives around gigabit speed, and supposedly the most recent firmware has fixed the speed issues it was having. $163.45 is a bit pricey though.
Has anyone used this that can comment on it?
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Ubiquiti and have my whole network "Unify"ed. One thing I like are the low prices. A AP AC lite: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY would be 80$, that is a really very good price for an enterprise AP.
A thing to keep in mind: you don't have a web interface on the AP itself, Unifi is a controller based wifi / networking system. The controller is a piece of software that can run on your computer, but best runs all the time so that you can get the advantages of that (e.g. statistics, a guest portal, etc.). Some features require a USG (their router), some need Unifi switches.
I highly recommend investing in a Unifi system, as you can get prosumer / soho features for consumer prices. Just have a look at https://demo.ubnt.com/ concerning their great "single pane of glass" interface. It doesn't matter if you have 1 or 100 APs, you simply can define you want a new SSID and the controller provisions it to the APs.
My scheming from when last we spoke appears to be paying off.
I've taken a single Supermicro X9SCL-F board and put it into a server that I'm currently using as a super-simplified SAN - CentOS on a small SSD with a ZFS mirrored vdev pool totaling 2TB for VM storage. I've tested the Dell 0KJYD8 cards that I had lying around with some SFP+ receivers that I bought on eBay in various configurations, and everything seems to work well. It looks like it's time for me to move on to Phase 2 of my plan :)
In preparation for Hurricane Florence (I live close to the east coast) I also went ahead and splurged on new batteries for all 4 of my UPSes - two Cyberpower 1500PFCLCD's and two APC Back-UPS Pro 1500's. I think, once I get the proper cable from Amazon to tell the APC's that they have new batteries and thus report an accurate remaining time to me, I will use those in my homelab, particularly because I can purchase battery expansions for these models to get even more runtime out of them. I'll likely use the Cyberpower UPSes for mine and my partner's desktop rigs. This was a relatively expensive purchase (compared to how much I've spent on the rest of my homelab), but it's definitely going to be worth it to be able to actually trust my UPSes in case of brownouts/blackouts going forward.
With all of that said, here's everything that's currently in my homelab:
Current Hardware
// todo (immediate)
// todo (future)
Cyber power UPS is great, not super enterprise grade but still great. Comes with easy to deploy OVA template for esxi to safely shutdown the machine. Also with web panel to configure shutdown parameters and calculated energy used. Tons of other stuff but those are some of my favorites. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_e-BszbWD7CF3V
I have the RS815 and the RS214, and they're really not bad. There's an option in the configuration to favor fast or cool, which varies the fan speeds to reduce noise. I had them in a cabinet (open back, definitely not sealed) in a bedroom for a while. I did eventually go so far as to replace the fans but I wouldn't strictly say it's necessary. Heavy load you're definitely going to notice it, but even at that it's still quieter than most 1U full depth servers, and I hardly noticed it under normal load, and nice and quiet idle. I was really happy when they came out with the shallow depth RS815, much easier to find a home for it.
That rack you linked too at amazon is only 17 inches deep... the dell r710 has a mounting depth of about 30" if I remember correctly... so it wouldn't really fit in that rack, in fact, more than half of it would be out of the rack! A rack like that is more well suited for smaller things like switches and the like.
a rack that would work that's in that price range is something like this although it's completely open.
Also, I don't know what's so appealing about the server you posted on ebay, but you can find some that you'll find just as useful for much much
less money I don't know where you're located (other than you're in canada based on your links) but you might be able to find a used rack for much less.
now to answer your question more directly
yeah, you get a rack. then you have rails that connect to the rack and the server, that's what lets you pull servers in and out (usually) like these guys which are rails for an r710
Your rack will not come with rails. each server typically will use different rails (there are universal ones though, but they aren't as nice) sometimes your server will come with rails however! basically, the rails will clip in, or screw into the rack, then it the server will sit on, clip on, or screw onto the rails. you can see here, the rails holding up these servers and allowing you to nicely slide the servers in and out of the rack for serving or whatever
This is going to be very dependent on how deep into the weeds you want to be getting with your setup. We've got one key, being "needs to do gigabit internet". Another is you seem to be looking for gigabit/AC wireless. You also mention needing an AP on the far side of the house.
Do you expect that the router will have wifi capabilities on it's own? Some of the options that I know will handle gigabit throughput don't have built-in wireless.
The "easy" answer - meaning, if you just want good stuff that works well enough and don't want to learn all there is to know about networking before you get your LAN running - is to go with Ubiquiti gear. An EdgeRouter Lite will do gigabit for your router (as long as you don't get fancy, like trying to do QoS/rate shaping) for about $90.
You would then need at least one AP to handle the wireless, for which a UAP-AC-Lite would probably work okay - that's about $80.
For getting the ball rolling, just about any 8 port "dumb" switch would do, but you can get a TP-Link TL-SG108 gigabit switch for $30 on Amazon right now. You'd almost certainly want to replace that eventually, but it won't be useless and it's a good price.
Eventually you could look at getting a 16 port Ubiquiti switch and another AP or two if you have a large area to cover, and there's options for unified configuration setups I believe.
If you really want to get snazzy, spring for the Unifi Security Gateway which is the same hardware as the EdgeRouter Lite, but works with the Unifi controller software. Get that, as many APs as you need, and a Unifi switch and you can (eventually) run a VM for your Unifi controller to configure all of it through one, locally controlled web page.
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I’ve been very happy with this case: Rosewill 4U Server Chassis/Server Case/Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case support with 15 bays & 7 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-L4500) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_g9S.Bb2HETDCB
Very quiet, looks good, well built, and ticks all your check boxes. Each “fan bay” can support 5 x 3.5” drives or it can be removed to fit 3 x 5.25 devices. I’ve currently filled it with 3 x 2.5” x 6 ICY DOCKs, giving me space for 18 x 2.5” drives in addition to 10 x 3.5” drives.
I used Powerline adapters (500 mbps) but ran into some latency when streaming off my HDHomeRun Prime.
I discovered MOCA Adapters that run over coax that are pricy, but amazing. Requires you to have coax run to the room you want Ethernet. 2.0 can do gigabit, 2.5 isn't really out but will be even faster.
EDIT: Link to adapters. There is a $129 package but reviews seemed to favor this model (6200 vs 6000). Works great with Verizon Fios because you don't need one at the router if you are already using MOCA.
This build is rock solid but you can obviously go newer:
You can do just as well buying newer Zotac ZBOX or NUC. They are silent, take 2.5 HDDs, and will run just about anything you can throw at them. Check out https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0179S50UU/
The only real downside to these mini PCs is heat. I built this 3 years ago and both the ZBOX and NUC ran way too hot. They still do run pretty hot, just a limit being in such a small enclosure
Edit: For anyone interested in building a low profile thin-mini ITX build I highly recommended checking out more current parts like the ASUS Q170 1151 motherboard and a 35W T-Series Sky Lake or Kaby Lake processor like the 6300T/6400T/6500T/6600T/6700T. You're getting a lot of power in a small thermal envelope
So, as I'm sure you're aware, a generic "router" you get is actually a router, firewall, switch, and AP built into one device.
pfSense is an open source router/firewall that's built on top of Linux/OpenBSD. It's pretty simple to setup as it has a nice GUI but it also supports a lot of advanced features. It basically can run on anything with a processor, memory, HDD, and a NIC. Now optimally you want something that has at least 2x GB Intel ports.
I have my pfSense currently running on a mini ITX computer with an i5-2500k as I had it laying around, but that consumes a little more power.
Some people use devices like this which are low power and fanless. Some people buy little boxes like this where you add your own RAM/HDD/SSD and it's also low power.
The only thing that sucks is that this stuff costs money. Even when you buy used gear, it's still not as cheap as buying generic stuff. You can go to Best Buy and get some crazy Nighthawk all in one device for $200-300.
With this route you're going to spend $200+ on a pfSense router/firewall, ~$30-100 on a managed switch, and $50-100 on an AP but you have much more control over your environment.
Or you could go with a Ubiquiti router/gateway/firewall for ~$100 and then add on a managed switch and AP.
Or some people buy a virtualization server and run their pfSense firewall on a VM. Decently equipped servers can be had for $200-500 when all said and done.
There's really a lot of options.
I work in an area of netsec and have my switch mirroring/SPANing all the traffic to Snort which sends all the alerts to a Splunk box. You can also run Snort directly on a pfSense box.
Hey! Small world lol. Congrats on the purchase, the R710 is a really great server to start with. I mounted everything on a Startech 12U rack and I mounted the R710 with these rails. Happy homelabbing!
Hi, fellow german here!
If you're ready to shell out some cash I can highly recommend the Startech 25U. Otherwise, as others have suggested, you could build your own or choose the Ikea Lack-rack route, tho I personally would invest in a good rack. You might also find some on eBay (Kleinanzeigen) or - if they don't need to be really deep - you can have a look at thomann.de, they also have some racks (mainly made for holding music gears but works with servers just fine!).
BTW: I think your link is wrong but great that you're looking at KNX systems, can recommend it if you want to do a lot of home automation :)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This runs my r510, Synology DS 212j, hp 2530-24G, modem and AP (Average power consumption of 162Wh). An added bonus it works great with their free virtual appliance power management software and will safely shutdown my vm host in the event of an extended power outage.
Got it on sale for 137 5 months ago.
Zotac makes one I like http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Quad-Core-Graphics-Barebones-ZBOX-CI323NANO-U/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1456979168&sr=8-1&keywords=zotac+ci323&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011 but it looks like they're 3-6 weeks out at the moment. Fanless and works great with CentOS 7, haven't tested them with anything else
Edit: looks like it's available on ebay now for ~$150
Well first, your 470W PSU won't be running 470W 24/7. And unless you get a really great PSU, it likely won't even be able to push a full 470W anyway, at least not for long. If you want to get a more accurate estimate, get something like this and measure the power consumption at idle, then at full load (or at whatever you expect your max load to be).
My 2950 has two 750W PSUs and my R900 has two 1500W PSUs. If they were truly hitting 750W and 1500W respectively, I'd be looking at almost $350/mo.
I apologize, but I'm not seeing the model of the actual case housing everything. I like that it's mobile for a smaller installation. Could you share that info please? 😁
More searching... Is this it? StarTech.com 12U Open Frame Server Rack - Adjustable Depth - 4-Post Data Rack - w/ Casters/Levelers/Cable Management Hooks (4POSTRACK12U) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MkfmDbWHYXAQZ
What he said: heavy stuff up top makes it easier to tip over.
Generally, if they are only 12-18ish inches deep and don't come with rails, then they're fine with being on two posts.
If you are still uncomfortable for whatever reason feel free to buy some 4-post shelves.
Even 2-post shelves are usually rated for 50#, some for 100#.
Edit:To secure the Yamaha receivers, I might consider unscrewing the feet and drilling some holes in a rack shelf or rails to bolt into the same. This way everything can be secure if you have to move the rack around.
Edit 2: Lastly, and I'm sure you know this, some of these receivers call for 30cm of space above for proper ventilation: they're not designed for rack mount. So I would mount some fans on the back and close any excess open slots to pull air across the top of the devices.
Well, I only have one "gaming VM" (it has a Radeon HD 6970 and a pair of USB ports passed through, and I've assigned it four vCPU / 6GB RAM), but I'm doing a lot of the rest of your desires. This is going to be a somewhat long post, and I'm not terribly well known for being overly organized with my ramblings, so bear with me... ;)
My host is an HP Z800, and the OS is ESXi 6.0.u2 (with the free license). It has two Xeon X5677's with 32GB of DDR3 (8 4GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B, if that happens to matter to you at all). Because of the memory ventilation duct, I had to remove the flimsy heat spreaders. It has two fans that blow directly over both RAM banks, and I've not had any issues without the heat spreaders at all. This is the only physical PC in my house, if you don't count my rarely used laptop (it primarily gets used on the rare occasion that I travel, and on game nights to control the RPG mapping VM).
For my primary datastore (where the VMs live), I have an LSI 9260-8i, with a Mini-SAS to 4 SATA (forward) breakout cable connected to one of these, populated with four PNY CS1131 SSDs configured in a RAID5 array. Within my Windows 10 VM, I ran CrystalDiskMark (with its defaults - I'm not terribly familiar with benchmarking), and this was the result. I suspect the slow write speeds is due to 1) parity calculations and 2) write-back cache being disabled due to my not (currently) having a BBU to connect to my 9260-8i.
At any rate, onto the VM's!
VM1 - "Gaming" / primary usage - Windows 10. As previously noted, it has four vCPUs assigned, 6GB RAM, and 256GB vHDD on the afore mentioned primary datastore. It has a Radeon HD 6970 and a pair of the host USB ports attached via 'pcipassthrough'. As the host lives in an electronics / networking closet in my spare bedroom, I use some Cables2Go RapidRun digital cabling (the specific part numbers I used are now discontinued) to bring the HDMI signal from that space to a spot on one of my living room walls, where the monitor is mounted. I used a cheap USB<->Cat5 extender to bring a USB port out to a cheap USB hub, to which is connected the Logitech universal receiver for my keyboard / mouse, and a crappy USB 'sound card' (which is only used for its MIC input). Before you ask, no, I don't notice any input / display lag with the 50' cabling between my keyboard / monitor / mouse.
VM2 - Media server, "nas" - Windows Home Server 2011. This VM also has four vCPUs assigned, along with 6GB of RAM, but only a 160GB HDD (the minimum WHS2011 required for installation). This VM has the onboard Intel six port SAS/SATA controller attached, along with a USB3 PCIe controller. I have an 4-in-1 IcyDock (different model to the one I linked previously, but very similar build), in which live three Samsung / Seagate 2TB 2.5" HDDs. These are controlled / presented to the OS by StableBit's DrivePool. All of my media / other data are stored on this pool. As this VM also handles my media services, it has Plex Media Server, Sonarr, and sabnzbd installed. All downloads / unpacks / media rename / etc happens on the DrivePool, since I don't care how long those operations take (I'm the only one that accesses my media).
VM3 - RPG mapping - Windows 7 - This VM is very basic : two vCPUs and 2GB RAM. It has a Radeon HD 7470 attached, which is connected via a 50' RapidRun analog (yellow, also discontinued) VGA cable. This VM is only powered on / used when I have an RPG group at my house.
All three VMs have Chrome Remote Desktop installed so I can access them from anywhere. The media / RPG VM's are exclusively controlled via this method.
I have a Nexus Player installed at both of my TVs. Each has the Plex app installed so I can watch whatever is on the server.
If you have any specific questions, please feel free to ask. :)
Here is the specific one I bought.
Buying locally from CL or something can be more advantages as you don't have to assemble it or try to manage shipping. Its probably easier to get a 42U rack that way. And likely the cost will be less.
I can report that these ones are pretty solid and work well. They don't have much in the way of cable management and are fairly bare and open. But they are new, are solid, and hold up well.
This is correct.
Ready to pull the trigger on this setup:
NIC
cable
switch
Seems like everything should play nice together, with the added benefit of attaching my main desktop to the switch with 10g along with the server.
Opinions?
While almost all rackmount stuff is 19” wide, it’s the depth and weight you have to worry about. The r610 is almost 30” deep with cables and I think the HP isn’t much shorter.
The rack you linked to is designed for network gear and even some audio equipment. What you want is a 4-post rack like this 12u - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P1RJ9LS.
You can use a 2-post rack, but you’ll need to get the static rails instead of the ready rails. Which is your next question, rackmount servers normally need rails to be mounted to the rack and then the server sits down into them and are secured at the front of the rails with the rack ears that are on the rails and the server. The r610 uses these - Dell P223J 1U Ready Rails for PowerEdge R610 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00686MBE8.
There are some smaller racks, just make sure you’re getting one deep enough or adjustable enough to account for your servers and cables.
I have a TS440 and 2 TS140's, but the TS440 is my favorite by far. It does not come with caddies but I got mine here for $15: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T4SZ720?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
I also got this 4 port NIC for it: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P0NX3G?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00 and it has worked great.
Only negative with the TS440 is that it is louder than my TS140's, but still a manageable level. And I love having the hot swappable drives. Maybe someone can chime in about running ESXi on it, I have only used Hyper-V on mine.
I think it depends on whether OP needs all 12U of that rack, or is willing to trade some density for lower cost.
"Generic rails" tend to be more like 0U shelves. I bought some of these and I like them, but there is a density cost. The piece that holds the server from beneath is thicker than the clearance between most 1U or 2U servers, so if you have two of these right next each other, the upper one will have to be fudged up to leave room for the server below. Because of standard rack hole spacing, you can only do this 1-2 times before you have to leave a blank space above. That works fine for me, but needs vary.
AFAICT, all rack-mount server models have different means of securing to their intended rails, not to mention side-to-side spacing. I don't think there's a way to make a set of generic rails that supports only from the side instead of supporting from below.
I opted for a Mikrotik CSS326-24G-2S+RM with 2 10gb sfp+ uplinks and a pair of Mellanox cards off eBay that worked right out of the box. Its fanless and super low power which I love and the increased transfer speeds between my desktop and FreeNAS is a welcome addition.
Last piece of advice.... Let your EdgeRouter breathe... don't stack stuff on top of the poor thing. :)
Shelves... buy some rack mount shelves and put your gear on it. I personally dig these but you can get some lighter duty shelves for about $40. A rackmount PDU is also pretty awesome.
Wow, you want to do all that with a Celeron Quad-core? If that's all I had I would throw CentOS 7 Minimal Server on it...
https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/centos-7-minimal-server/
For easy GUI administration use
Webmin: https://lintut.com/how-to-install-webmin-on-centos-7/
For TM Backups use NFS or SMB: https://www.unixmen.com/setting-nfs-server-client-centos-7/ https://lintut.com/easy-samba-installation-on-rhel-centos-7/
To enable NFS on Mac: http://www.serverlab.ca/tutorials/osx/administration-osx/how-to-connect-mac-os-x-to-nfs-shares/
For DLNA use Plex Media Server (enable DLNA in settings): http://brettspence.com/2014/11/17/installing-plex-media-server-on-centos-7/
For Web app hosting etc. use Apache or Nginx with MYSQL & PHP: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/centos-lamp-server-apache-mysql-php/
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mysql-php-lemp-stack-on-centos-7
Use Webmin to administer your virtualhosts using the Apache module or use this Nginx module: https://github.com/vixh/nginx-webmin
For NextCloud use this script https://github.com/PietsHost/Nextcloud-Installation-Script
For DIY IoT edge device/gateway, there's no better for the money than EdgeRouter X + UniFi AC AP (Lite/LR): https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-ER-X-Networks-Router/dp/B0144R449W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494305813&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=edgerouter+x
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494305859&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ubiquiti+ap+ac+lite
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-AC-LR-Networks-Enterprise-System/dp/B015PRCBBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494305879&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ubiquiti+ap+ac+lr
For VPN use OpenVPN (use this script): https://github.com/Angristan/OpenVPN-install
NOTE: With this script it remove passwords by default, just open the script up in a text editor and remove the "nopass" text (4 times) and your good to go! It's very easy to install and add/remove users.
Again, this is a lot for a small little machine to do, but this is how I would do it with the limited hardware you have.
Cheers!
I bought this one off Amazon brand new for 250 shipped. StarTech 25U Adjustable Depth Open Frame 4 Post Server Rack.
I live in a area that doesn't have a lot of old server equipments so I had to get this one. It's great since it's adjustable depth. And casters are awesome addition as well
That looks a lot like the rack I've been looking at: https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Casters-Levelers-Management/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=startech+rack&qid=1569960952&sr=8-3
Thanks for the input. Your right: I am overthinking it. Other replies, too, have reassured me that there's more flexibility available than I was thinking. I feel much better about firing off the orders now!
I would run all cabled directly off to either the left or right side, bundle them and then run them over the top and down the other side.
Consider getting an arm or something else to avoid messing the whole thing up when you pull out the server on the rails. You can kind of wing it without one though.
Velcro strips comes in real handy for cable management. Having 100 of those hanging off the sides makes it really easy to gather up the cables and redo them when adding equipment. They don't look quite as nice as plastic strips, but it is just so much more enjoyable to work with for projects like this.
https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Black-2-Inch-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6
Similar ones can be bought on AliExpress for peanuts if you can wait a month.
From the looks of it pulling the server out on the rails will disconnect the power cords. I would mount an extension socket next to it with an on/off switch that lights up.
Cyberpower or APC.
You're likely going to have to spend minimum $100 and have a size of at least 500W, and for three computers depending on the consumption, more like 750w. These usually come with the ability to power down a single computer.
These are the better "budget" brands of UPS units. Hopefully the unit has a voltage regulation feature for both dips and spikes.
Your electic bill will go up a bit, no matter what you do. Some are better than others.
I've got a StarTech.com 12U open frame rack. On the one hand I don't have to worry about an enclosed rack getting super hot, but on the other hand I have to manage the airflow in that room well so the hot air doesn't pool near the rack.
Does your desktop have an efficient power supply? Most of the efficient desktop PSUs employ active PFC. If yours does, you will want a UPS that provides pure sine wave power in case of an outage.
The APC UPSs on sale do stepped sine wave approximation. It might work for efficient PSUs, I don't know. I do know that CyberPower has pure sine wave PSUs that eliminate the question, albeit at a higher price. For example: https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Sinewave-Compatible-Mini-Tower/dp/B00429N19W
I was tempted to use metal frame for the build but i wouldnt have a clue when it comes to metal work but if you can do it, go for it! or get a good kit: My mate just bought this :https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Casters-Levelers-Management/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511427208&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=startech+12u
Its expensive but super adjustable.
Server before a recent upgrade
Server before a recent upgrade
My old system was rather simple and straight forward. It was a dual Xeon workstation motherboard (standard ATX) installed in a Rosewill 4U Server Chassis. The center rail perfectly fit the radiators of two Corsair H55s. The bracket works extremely well for the LGA1366.
Server after a hasty upgrade (not finished)
Center Rail
Back
Front
I upgraded my system about two weeks ago. Not finished yet - but it's functional. Since the new motherboard was an oversized EATX (13.2 x 13 inches) - I had to modify the case to get everything to fit. I noticed with 18 sticks of memory, the heat was a bit higher than the previous build. So, I have the radiators sandwiched with fans on both sides. This increased the airflow significantly and the fans are 120mm, so rather quiet.
However, with the fan sandwich, the center rail needed to be pushed back 1.5 inches. In the photo, I only pushed the rail back one inch so far. One of the sandwiches fit (the rear one), but you will notice that the one closest to camera isn't yet fitting. So, I need to pull everything out and drill new holes a half inch closer to the front.
The other thing I didn't realize is that when mounting standard ATX power supplies with an EATX motherboard, the chassis will need to have the power supply suspended above the motherboard and not on the side. You will see that the motherboard takes up a portion of the area where the power supply should go. So, I cut a hole above the i/o plate and moved the power supply mounting bracket that came with the case. Surprisingly, it holds extremely well and has nearly 1 inch of clearance between the power supply and one of the CPU water blocks and memory.
I also plan on 3d printing a shroud that will channel the air from the center rail out into the giant hole in the back and adding two 90mm fans as a proper exhaust.
NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_10vRzbR1DB9JA
Shelves are your best friend :)
For 80 more you can get a way nicer 4 post StarTech one with free shipping from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK12U/dp/B00P1RJ9LS
Not the exact model I have under my desk, but I have a similar one from them and love it.
Well, I'll be that guy and say I like whiteboxes (DIY).
I'd get this case (symmetrical 5.25 bays): https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-L4000/dp/B0091IZ1ZG/
Get these IcyDock bays: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994155
So that's 15 3.5" HDDs.
Go mATX and you can use at least two of the PCI slots for HDDs as well, like this: https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Mounting-Internal-Included-Installation/dp/B00IB6I43K
The rest is fairly easy too (mobo, psu, ram, cpu, Noctua fans & heatsink, HBA).
Yes, you can. You'd use a couple MoCA (Multimedia over Coax Alliance) adapters, with one on each end. This should allow you to push ethernet over your Coax. Having never done this myself, it should work fine in theory, but other factors like cable quality and length will probably come into play.
Here's a link to a pair you can purchase on Amazon: Link
Consider this one:
ZOTAC ZBOX C Series Passive Cooling Mini PC, Intel N3150 Quad-Core CPU, Intel HD Graphics Barebones System (ZBOX-CI323NANO-U) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UfdvybRQJY4Y8
Two LAN port, wifi, fanless(no noise)
Buy cheap 32go ssd with cheap 8go ram and you're good to go !
Oh and perfectly compatible with pfsense ;)
https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Black-2-Inch-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6/
These last forever for $10. You can cut them shorter for small bunches of cables or keep them long, but they are great for keeping tiny bunches in line and reusable when you make changes. I've found the easiest way to add cables is to use a new zip tie next to the old then remove the old and go down the line.
(EDIT: Also, it looks great.)
Eh, without knowing the router, I can't tell you that. The quickest and easiest, plus best performance, would be to just slap in a Gig switch, plug that into the actiontec, and plug your clients into the switch. Then the wired clients get Gig lan amongst themselves, and only drop to 10/100 when going wired-to-wireless or wired-to-internet.
Something like this would be fine for you http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A121WN6/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687722&amp;pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&amp;pf_rd_t=201&amp;pf_rd_i=B00006RVPW&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_r=0Z8KMTZGGRKVQ055QS7G
My original plan was to build a small Ryzen server to run some VMs on. That plan eventually turned into looking at small racks and deciding I want to run ethernet throughout the house, so naturally I need it all to come together at one location. I bought a 6u rack (can technically hold 8u), a pdu, a tplink patch panel, and I got a free switch poe from Aerohive that I plan on using to power some security cameras. I found a 3u short rack mount computer case that can be mounted "backwards", which helps with air flow in these short racks and allows easy access to all of the io ports.
My Ryzen idea turned into a Theadripper build because of some crazy deals I got, and ended up being its own stand alone build. So I still don't really have a machine setup in the 3u case. I have a Dell board installed with an i7, but the psu has some weird proprietary connectors and the cables are too short for where the psu mounts, so I'll just look into replacing the board and psu at some point in the near future. I then plan on running proxmox and having this run part of a test lab, and maybe eventually act as a router.
I really, really like the pdu, but it's way over kill for this thing, so I'll probably just replace it with a nice surge protector, which will plug into an external battery backup.
I installed two exhaust fans into the top of the rack which run directly off the pdu. I could mount the patch panel 1u higher but the cables running into it would clash with the extra long screws the fans came with, so I will probably Dremel those screws in half when I get time.
The rack itself isn't bad. I had to get the first one replaced because it got destroyed during shipping. Other than having to tighten a few screws on the second one, works very well and came in great shape. I like this rack because it can be mounted on a wall or you can mount wheels to the bottom, which is comes with, and it looks nice while not weighing a million pounds.
Parts I'm using so far:
A couple grand???
Why not just use this? http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Sinewave-Compatible-Mini-Tower/dp/B00429N19W
I have three of these. They're amazing. They work fine with the business / agent software.
I bought a CyberPower CPS1215RMS which is plugged into a APC 1500 (SMT1500) for surge and BBU. I got the APC for free from work...I'm also on a budget. The CPS1215RMS has been fine for me and after one incident at work where I accidentally bumped/flipped an uncovered switch on a PDU and cycled a full HP2920 switch stack I greatly appreciate having covers on PDU power switches. Thanks to that mistake we have redundant PSU's on those stacks now so it all worked out : )
Tripp lite, in my experience, make solid and reliable gear. If you get either of the one's you've linked you'll be happy. The only thing I'd say is one has a 15 ft. cord, which is alot of cable to hide somewhere or bundle up. The 6 ft. cords are typically plenty.
> are there any potentially slightly older and used RAID controller that can be had for cheap (like <$50), that will let me attach 5, maybe 6 drives?
Yes, but normally RAID requires empty drives so you'd have to use something like drivepool instead if you want to keep your data intact.
> Ive come across the Dell PERC H700
H700 isn't a bad card but if you can do an H300, you can flash it into IT mode (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-H310-IT-mode-Adapter-8-Port-6Gb-s-SAS-SATA-Raid-Card-9211-8i-P20-IT/192642240732?hash=item2cda5f50dc:g:EE0AAOSwNgNbiBGM:rk:1:pf:0) and just use Mini-SAS to SATA cables (https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-SFF-8087-Breakout/dp/B012BPLYJC). Each cable will allow you plug in 4 drives.
I normally get Cyberpower PFC1500s. I have been super happy with them.
They go on sale all the time on Newegg and Amazon. You get get them for less than $180 when they are on sale.
That 9211 is like the gold standard. You shouldn’t have to flash to IT mode, but you do want to upgrade the firmware (which accomplishes the same thing). The real ones are trivial to flash, versus like an H200, so I wouldn’t sweat that.
If you want the “modern” version, the LSI-9207-8i has the most recent chipset.
You can get them new, and quite a bit cheaper, on eBay .
Then you just need a pair of breakout cables
Well I can recommend this VLAN aware switch
I'd recommend using pfSense as router and firewall. it can be virtualized if you need.
I'd avoid expansion unless you actually need it.
First thing you need to do in my opinion is choose a hypervisor and start virtualization (in my case, I like Proxmox).
Second thing you should do in my opinion is separate storage from Proxmox so get a second server for storage and use like NFS or something to export to Proxmox.
From there, just figure out what you need or want and set up a VM for it.
Intel N3150
https://smile.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Quad-Core-Graphics-Barebones-ZBOX-CI323NANO-U/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&amp;sa-no-redirect=1&amp;th=1
need to manually update the Realtek NIC driver (https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=103841.75) if you want throughput above 200 Mb/s without watchdog timeouts and ignore the bitching about the SD card reader on boot but it supports AES-NI and is cheap and works great.
I have a Cyberpower CP1500PFCLCD UPS. It shows the total pull on the UPS, but not per outlet. It is nice to see though.
But yeah, it's not exactly "cheap", but then again, it's not rack mounted, so it's not obscenely expensive either.
Also, totally worth having. Especially as I purchased mine after having a friend drive into the power poll outside my apartment and damaging some hardware because of it.
I'm running ESXi 6 with VSAN just fine with three TS140s. Though I'm playing with Nutanix CE right now.
The only complaint I have about the TS140 is its limitation of 32 GB RAM, and maybe that the XEON E3-1225 v3 CPU doesn't support hyperthreading, but I don't have a huge need for processing power. It's a rather large case footprint for only 32 GB RAM, but I'm happy with them since I have shelving in the utility room that gets them up out of the way.
I added a 4-port 1-gig NIC and a 2-port 2.5 inch hot-swap bay for the SSDs, booting from some SanDisk low-profile USB drives, and it's working very well for me so far. I'll be adding some Mellanox 10 GbE cards with DAC cables soon, but VSAN is working fine at 1 gig at the moment.
You most definitely can. You would be supporting the devs, which is always a good thing. However, you can build a more powerful box yourself for cheaper. Use these parts:
Zotac CI323 (Intel 3150 Quad Core @ 1.6GHz) - $150
Crucial DDR3L (1x4GB - system supports up to 8GB - don't need that much for pfSense, but knock yourself out). - $18.
ADATA SSD 32GB (way overkill for pfSense, if you can find a smaller one, go for it) - $28.
Total is ~$200. There are no fans. No moving parts. Pulls probably 10W. I'm using a little Chinese box with the same processor, 4GB RAM, and a small m.2 SATA. Haven't had a single hardware issue. That setup really is perfect for pfSense.
https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Quad-Core-Graphics-Barebones-ZBOX-CI323NANO-U/dp/B0179S50UU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468022008&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ci323
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=twister_B00H8JVIKM?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Premier-Upgrade-Solution-ASP600S3-32GM-C/dp/B009SKB5HA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468022431&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=ssd&amp;refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027456011
I have a 28MP and I swapped the fans for Noctua ones which helped a lot. It was loud enough to hear through a closet door before I swapped them. I'm super-sensitive to fan noise, though. I'm sure a lot of people would be totally satisfied with the original fans.
I have this one and it's great. Easy to setup, very solid & sturdy.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK12U/dp/B00P1RJ9LS
Not too worried about which type of RAID, long as it supports the drives at full throughput. The 9211-8i looks pretty nice.
Would this work as a breakout cable for the drives?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012BPLYJC
Yep it's a good deal, I actually considered buying a second one today. I did have an issue where I had to get them to adjust the price over chat now that I think about it so maybe there was something buddy with the item? Definitely worth the hassle. There's actually another one without sine wave but 1500va on right now as a lightning deal for $138. CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD Intelligent LCD UPS 1500VA 900W AVR Mini-Tower https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000FBK3QK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qnAHxb692DZX8
I got four of these HP branded ones from the same seller, they have been working great for over a year. Also, be sure to ask for low profile brackets, if you need them.
And bonus, they are slightly cheaper at $50.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P0NX3G?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I used these in my USG-PRO to great success.
As others have said, go with noctua. This one is your best bet. They're kinda pricey but your ears will thank you https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Cooling-Blades-Bearing-NF-A4x10/dp/B009NQLT0M
Make sure you know if you need 12v or 5v (probably 12) .. they make both
Depending on budget, you could take a rack like this, pick up an Ikea table/counter top. Bolt the counter top to the top of the rack to create your idea. Then you can just look into getting some plywood or whatever to attach to the side to hide everything like in your design.
Not the cheapest ever as is new but I have the following rack at home. Really happy with it and it was delivered straight to the house
https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Casters-Levelers-Management/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1519208441&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=startech+rack
The rosewill rails are hard to come by, its easier to just use these:
http://smile.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458500710&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=adjustable+server+rails
They like to prevent stuff from perfectly fitting in the 1U beneath them (they stick down 1-2mm into the 1U below them), so if your rack is packed, they may not fit.
Kill-a-watt is a popular device that you can plug into your wall, then plug something into it. It will monitor and display your actual usage.
There are other competitors to this product as well. In addition to this, it's always a good idea to have your PC or homelab behind a UPS. Most, if not all UPSs made nowadays will allow you to connect it to your PC or server via USB and will also let you access the actual power draw via a window on your computer.
Your whole house is already being monitored in a way that you can view. There's a power meter outside your house (unsure where this might be if you're in an apartment) and it will read total Watts used. Usually in Kilowatthours.
Check out this StarTech rack. I purchased it about 6 months ago and am really happy with it. If you just have half sized cases, the adjustable depth gives you a small footprint now (mines in my office), and the ability to expand it should you pick up a full size case (and having to get a new rack).
StarTech.com 25U Adjustable Depth Open Frame 4 Post Server Rack Cabinet with Casters/Levelers and Cable Management Hooks 4POSTRACK25U Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6GNLQE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kB1dAbJ410C9K
WD Reds, currently 1 4TB and 2 3TB installed, 3 more 4TB I haven't moved over yet until I can get it working.
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Had to purchase new mini SAS cables for this as I didnt have any https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KFEVQ4E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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TLDR only new components to this setup are the R720 and the mini SAS cables, everything else was previously working on another build.
I can't find the silverstone case you mention in particular (edit: I did just find that case on amazon, listed as CS01B-HS. Looks like it would work well if you need the hot-swappableness!), but if you can forgo the "external" bit for hard drives, the fractal design cases are absolutely amazing when it comes to size/functionality. Node 804, for example, can do 12 drives (10x3.5, 2x2.5).
As far as ram needs, cpu and low power, you may want to take a look at the Xeon D motherboards. This one may actually get you all you need. It's quad core, but from the reviews I've seen, it is no slouch.
I'm not particularly fresh on building this system, but hopefully this gives you a few ideas at least!
My girlfriend bought me this one for Christmas and it's worked great so far. Really sturdy and adjustable to be deep enough for my Dell R710 without an issue.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK12U/dp/B00P1RJ9LS
Edit: There's also a 25U version of this rack for $248 w/ free shipping
Haha. Yeah it's a nice box...
They come with the rack and then you just attach them where you want them. http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK25U/dp/B00O6GNLQE
This one is a useful option. There are plenty of variants, some with hot swap bays. I use it with a SSI EEB board, and it fits it all just fine.
Also, most rack servers have removable ears, so they can easily work outside of a rack. And even with the ears, they stand up just fine in my experience.
you can get cyberpower 1500va units for around $150. They are amazing products. this could very well be overkill but the price point is good and you have plenty of headroom for upgrades.
Thanks! It's a TP-Link TL-SG108 unmamaged 8 port gigabit switch ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-SG1024D-24-Port-Rackmount-Unmanaged/dp/B00A121WN6/ ) it's a fairly good cheap gigabit switch. I have a few unmanaged gigabit switches from different companies and I've found them to all be fairly similar I usually just go for whatever recognisable brand is the cheapest on Amazon at the time
Here was my solution, which is working great:
Controller
Cable
Battery backups aren't meant to keep your stuff running for an hour or two, they're for giving you a few minutes time in order to gracefully shut down your devices. If you want an hour or two you'll need to get a seriously overpowered UPS and at that point you're better off getting a generator. My 1500VA UPS gives me ~20 minutes with my ~225W load. Mine is a 1500VA Cyberpower UPS it's nice and I like it but it's not a rack mount, if that's what you want.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have this on my holiday wishlist, but saw this today and thought I could save myself a few bucks.
I looked closer at our chassis setup and it is 4x 5 slot boards, so I'm not actually sure what protocol they run because SAS breakouts should max at 4. We're definitely proprietary compared to the options I am seeing online.
Closest equivalent commercially available part would be something like https://www.amazon.com/Mini-SAS-SFF-8087-Inch-Frame/dp/B00M36C2KK which effectively breaks out an internal sas port to 4x sas/sata interfaces. Looking online the DL320 should have an unused onboard port.
Alternatively https://www.amazon.com/Aplicata-Quad-NVMe-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B01MTU75X4 or https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-The-adapter-card-PCI-E-16X-TO-4P-NVMe-SSD-Support-RAIDO-PCI-E-16X/32951136605.html will let you run NVME directly off the PCIE slot assuming there isn't some other expansion already there.
So in a dl320 you could probably do one of each so long as you have physical space left and you don't run out of power.
Forgot one other option, which assumes OP can find power and mounting points on their own. https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-SFF-8087-Breakout/dp/B012BPLYJC
Just make sure you have enough space for future growth lol, it's addictive. Little more expensive with reviews:
https://amzn.com/B00P1RJ9LS
The one you linked looks like it uses the shelves or rails+server to add rigidity since it's missing the two cross-bars... not personally crazy about that.
I recently purchased CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W for $80 less than what it's going for now during Black Friday, but it's been great. I have my home lab plugged into it. Basically a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter/HP 24 Port Switch/HP Proliant DL370 G6 and can get about 19mins of uptime.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
For one of my remote offices I installed this Cyberpower OR1500PFCRT2U which is a 2U. Had to buy an additional network card which wasn't cheap.
I have a pair of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7O3X0
My house was prewired with coax fucking EVERYWHERE when I bought it. I get like 600-700 Mbps over them, which is plenty for my home needs. Very reliable. Not rackable, but you can stuff em almost anywhere. One of mine is double-sided velcro'd to the ceiling in the (not finished) basement.
EDIT: I have the original MoCA 2.0 ones (ECB6000). These are a newer bonded version that can get >1 Gbps, which is cool
I have the "Executive" model personally. The servers are on the bottom shelf (but I need to do something to make getting into the r510 easier since its the bottom of the two), the printer on the top, and the UPS sitting on the side in the closet in my office. Honestly, the loudest thing in the closet is a tossup between the UPS and the printer...
I'm no professional, but I feel like you could do a lot with these parts:
Empty Case:
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-R4000/dp/B0055EV30W
Patch Panel
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Rackmount-Wallmount-48-Port/dp/B0072K1P8C/ref=sr_1_3?crid=13UXC513T93L&amp;keywords=48+port+patch+panel&amp;qid=1558021254&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=48+port+patc%2Caps%2C137&amp;sr=8-3
LED Lighting
https://www.amazon.com/BrillGlow-Multi-colored-Background-Waterproof-Controller/dp/B01A5DDDE6?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1
You could probably combine these three parts, in various sets of configurations to build something "Hollywood"
I used this for some inspiration
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&amp;source=hp&amp;biw=1802&amp;bih=990&amp;ei=3oPdXIbaO6XI_Qa2lJ-wAg&amp;q=datacenter+server&amp;oq=datacenter+server&amp;gs_l=img.3..0l3j0i5i30j0i8i30l4j0i10i24j0i24.1733.3829..4019...0.0..0.177.1362.16j1......1....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i10j0i10i30.c3zuc98LIQA#imgdii=uFbGHerwzsZbfM:&amp;imgrc=6caHghE6mHfmCM:
I was just recently/currently in the same boat. I purchased a used r710 to make into a plex server. I bought a H310 on ebay (paid a premium and bought a preflashed IT version so I wouldn't have to mess around doing it myself). I guess I don't have any real reason I bought the H310 over the H200, from what I read they both will work as long as they are flashed into IT mode. I just had to buy new cables and install them. I have only tried it with a 1 TB hard drive in unraid and it seemed to work great. Ultimately I went with unraid simply because I wanted to be able to add drives easily as my library grew and have a parity drive- both of which unraid does.
That is an amazing price for a 4 port intel gigabit PCI-E NIC, its even well priced in Canada!!
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000P0NX3G?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00&amp;pldnSite=1
You could try this bad boy or something similar. It has two fans on the top that pull out the heat. From there it's up to you where to build ducts to move the heat, whether its out the door or somewhere else. Make sure to add netting to the end of whatever duct you put outside to help cut down on bugs (I also have this mounted inside to help with power cable management)
Another thing to check is if you have another room that's more insulated from heat than one with a glass sliding door. I currently have limited space in my apartment, but have blackout curtains on the windows by my gear to help cut down on other sources of heat, I also have an air conditioner nearby that detects the ambient temp and kicks on only when needed (also monitor the humidity in this room to make sure your gear is safe).
The hard truth of it though is that for each BTU your gear puts out you'll have to pay for the same BTU output from your A/C
The one I have is OK haven't had any problems. I plan on getting a new one soon with larger capacity. Been looking at this one, CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD Intelligent LCD UPS 1500VA 900W AVR Mini-Tower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FBK3QK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_lrjvxbDWFYNKH
/u/stilettoblade is correct. Neither the R610, nor the R710 would fit in this rack.
I measured the spare rails I have for an R610ii, the mount size is listed below. Too lazy to pull out one of the R710's to check those rails, but the R610ii physical server is 2in longer than the R710; so I'd think the rail mount depth would be similar if not exactly the same.
R610ii rails:
p/n: R144J
27.25in - 30.25in
These are the two racks I've found; similar in Usize that would fit these servers. I'm also looking to down grade my rack size, so if anyone has any suggestions for a 12-18U open rack on casters that is at least 27in deep; lets hear it.
*edit forgot the links. ha
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M9DQAMS/
I keep hearing good things about these MoCA 2.0 adapters. MoCA has been around quite a while, it works, and the latest generation stuff is actually gigabit fast.
As someone who has used three generations of powerline stuff, definitely stay away from it unless you have no other alternative. On a good day I see 60Mbps from the "1,200Mbps" adapters and they need to be cold reset (unplugged) after most power flickers.
On the games thing, I don't mean you should move them to avoid loading screens, I just mean that there's no reason they should live on a share over SMB on a BTRFS array on a VM running on your own system. That's a ton of complexity for like zero gain. A regular old 2TB drive, or 512GB SSD, or whatever, will give you more flexibility and probably better performance for $100 or so. Then move all the rest of the drives to a NAS you build with old parts, and you're off to the races.
On the cases thing, I use a Fractal R4 Blackout, but they have the R5 now, which has a few nice features over the R4. It can hold 8x3.5 drives, plus 2x2.5, plus whatever you can cram in the ODD bay if you want. $110 or so, but I think I got mine for around $80 on sale.
I also have a Rosewill rack mount thing, 15x3.5 and tons of room to work inside. It might not fit your spatially constrained requirement, but you might also be able to slide it under a bed or end table. It looks like it's $105, so in the same ballpark.
I have an iStarUSA D-400-6-Blue with some drive bays, and then my "desktop" PC (my rack is next to my desk so my day to day computer is in the rack also) is in a iStarUSA D-400-L7. If I was creating a file server from scratch, I'd probably get a Norco 4020; however, the D-400-6 was my old "desktop" case, and when I switched to the D-400-L7 for a combination of the added cooling and having enough space that my extended length video cards weren't running into the drive bays, the D-400-6 replaced an old cheapo Dell server box as my main server.
I'm also a big fan of these universal rack rails. They don't slide or anything like that, but you can put absolutely anything on them. I'd still screw in the server's ears, but the rails make it a lot easier to lift it into place.
Super cool, I'll be there soon myself.
Quick question, wooden shelf on rails? What wizard must I quest for to obtain this sort of thing? Is it basically a 19" wide board screwed into spare rails? Or maybe something a bit higher tech like https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA
This is exactly what I did and why.
Have a FreeNAS VM on proxmox and pass the drives straight through for ZFS... Can more gracefully handle mismatched drives and sizes well over the perc 2tb limit.
Side notes:
The cyberpower PFC line work pretty well, but run between $130 and $200.
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As nice as it is to have 2 USB ports, I really need 4. I am glad this is a trend though.
Rails to fit Rosewill's cases are pretty much all a minimum of 22". Your only real option for "rails" is to put in static shelves such as this one:
https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1539551858&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=server+rails
Here is what I got going on (top to bottom, left to right):
I have my monitor and keyboard sitting on a lack side table
Then on top of my lack side table on casters (I could no longer find it on ikea for the link, not sure if they stopped selling them?) I have:
an AT&T MicroCell - which is awesome since my office (and this closet) is in the basement.
NETGEAR R6250 - which is used for guest Wi-Fi access only.
ieGeek USB LVM switch (behind the NETGEAR)
CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD UPS - Which is currently supporting only my 2 R710's for battery, the rest pictured for surge protection.
Then inside the lackrack:
Cablox Mini Cord Organizers stuck to the roof for clean cable management
Dell PowerConnect 5324 - 24 Port Gigabit
Dell R710 2x Xeon L5520, 32GB RAM, 8GB thumb, 120GB Samsung SSD, 6x2TB Seagate NAS HDD
6x2TB in RaidZ2
Dell R710 2x Xeon E5530, 32GB RAM, 8GB thumb, 6x1TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
edit: listing stuffs..
Maybe get some of these sorts of SATA cables would make it easier - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4PCS-Free-Shipping-DIY-Black-sata-3-SATA-III-3-Data-Cable-Dual-channel-aluminum-foil/1582341251.html
Or get a SATA controller that uses Mini-SAS to SATA cables and get these - https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-Mini-SAS-Breakout/dp/B012BPLYJC
Would make running separate SATA cables a bit easier and more manageable
nice write up! I actually just bought these and am waiting for them to arrive
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Cooling-Blades-Bearing-NF-A4x10/dp/B009NQLT0M
Though the fans im replacing have a max CFM of like 10x what these do, I'm just gonna wing it and see if my temps are ok... if this doesnt work the box is gonna get shelved or thrown out probably.. now if i could only find a way to monitor temps in ESXi when I only have the web interface...
here's what I got. It's 25u open and adjustable for $250. I'm pretty sure monstermuffin had the 12u version of this before upgrading
So I just realized the P812 has the Mini SAS on the board whereas the P800 has the larger SAS ports on the board. Therefore, you'll actually need these breakout cables.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-Mini-SAS-Breakout/dp/B012BPLYJC
If you get two of those, you attach them to the internal ports and then that gives you 8 total internal drives. If you needed more than that, then you would get the SAS Expander, run SAS cables from the P812 to the SAS expander, and then use more of those breakout cables on the SAS expander to get more internal drives.
I haven't used the SAS expander for HP so I am not sure how well it works or what additional configuration you will need.
You would need those other cables I listed if you were going to use the P800, but I wouldn't recommend it since that card only supports up to 2TB drives where the P812 supports MUCH larger drives and up to 108 total drives (if you really wanted to).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O6GNLQE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I purchased this yesterday, should be here thursday, felt like a good buy.
Really, any 40mm fan will do. But here's:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Z6S6QQ/
You're correct. 6/i is slow, limited to drives 2TB or smaller, and doesn't have true IT mode. Its a good card to keep if (1) you don't care about software RAID, and (2) have spinners 2TB or less.
The H200 is a great card. You can leave it in IR mode if you want hardware RAID or flash IT mode if you want software RAID. Will work with any drive.
You'll need new cables. These are the right ones for an LFF model.
Inventory:
pfSense:
Snort, pfBlockerNG, OpenVPN, Squid, ClamAV, Default deny ingress/egress FW, etc.
ZOTAC ZBOX NUC
Kingston 120GB SSD
Crucial 8GB DDR3L RAM
ESXi Hypervisor:
Skull Canyon NUC
32GB DDR4 RAM
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 SSD
Virtual Machines I'm currently running.
Splunk - Receives my FW, DNS, Snort, and OSSEC logs. I have dashboards to filter this data.
Snorby - Also receives my Snort logs. I like this a little better than Splunk as I can view packet contents.
OSSEC - I used this for file integrity and endpoint monitoring on my servers and desktop. Functions as a host based IDS.
Nessus - I use this every once in a while to see if there are any open holes. Otherwise, I just use nmap and iptables to close everything off.
Unifi Controller - for managing my AP.
Wireless:
Ubiquiti Unifi AP-AC Lite
Switch:
TP-LINK 8-Port Gigabit L2 Switch
RetroPi + Monitor:
RPi3
10.1 Inch IPS HDMI Monitor
My VMs, configs, and files are backed up to a HDD I keep offline. I'm thinking about adding a NAS into the mix for somewhere around 200-400 dollars. Low energy consumption preferably if anyone had any recommendations. :)
Oops. I did mean 40mm.
Though I wouldn't get the 40x20 fans without measuring as most of the fans in appliances like this (though, again, I don't have one to be sure) are more thin, like this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009NQLT0M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_h5IEybJJS9CB6
Mikrotik has a 10gb model in this price range, 24 gig ports and 2 SFP+
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https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-CSS326-24G-2S-RM-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B0723DT6MN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=CSS326&qid=1554210393&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Do you have access to coax cables at both locations? I've been tossing around the idea of using one of these moca adapters to hard link my desktop and my server across my apartment.
https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Bonded-Ethernet-Adapter-ECB6200K02/dp/B013J7O3X0/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=moca&qid=1555693575&s=pc&sr=1-3
There's a used one for $131 plus 20% with amazon's sale this week. Lon of LonTV uses these all over his house and has great results with them.
Have you done any sort of analysis to determine power consumption? Using something like a Kill-A-Watt inline can help you do this. My bet is that R410 is the biggest individual drain.
There's an easy solution here
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Cooling-Blades-Bearing-NF-A4x10/dp/B009NQLT0M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510460290&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=noctua+40mm
best little 40mm fans I've experienced.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009NQLT0M/ref=pd_aw_fbt_147_img_3?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=ARS4FK5114M5WF08CRWK this is probably going to be a better all around fan. Slightly more airflow, quieter, and doesn't use a sleeve bearing.
CableCreation Internal Mini SAS SFF-8087 to Right Angle SFF-8087 Cord, Internal Mini SAS to Mini SAS Cable, Compatible with RAID or PCI Express Controller, 2.5FT /0.75M https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KFEVQ4E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Y0sKDbFEJ76W1
These are the exact cables I bought (buy 2) for my R710 II LFF to connect my H200 and it works perfectly.
A "kill-a-watt" is a great way. https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1498879772&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=kill-a-watt
I have this 1500VA one and it is great.
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-Sinewave-Compatible-Mini-Tower/dp/B00429N19W
It's a rosewill. Same case I have. It is great. Rosewill 4U Server Chassis / Server Case / Rackmount Case, Metal Rack Mount Computer Case with 8 Bays & 4 Fans Pre-Installed (RSV-R4000) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055EV30W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dt2MAb4MA2JP1
This is the case I recently bought 3 of to move my PCs to rack mounted cases.
They don't come with any rails however the internal grate which has 3 fans on it can be fairly easily modded to mount my h100i I had in two of the PCs.
Definitely fits atx mobo,psu and full length video card.
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Server-Chassis-Rackmount-Metal/dp/B0091IZ1ZG?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
I have this one work great
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yt0pDbCFVTSX2
gotcha. I got a mid-length rack at first thinking it would be enough. It doesn't even fit the "dell sliding rails", though it fits those rails I linked, it just means a full-depth server is longer than the rack.
So, TLDR, get a full length/adjustable rack like this.
Or put it on a shelf or the floor, it's homelab :)
I'm curious why you didn't just go with something like this 12U 4 post?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P1RJ9LS/
Unless you needed it to be enclosed, but I think it would be less work to enclose this than it was to create all that contraption you made.
You can pick up sas cables that work with the h700 from Amazon, you don't necessarily need the dell ones.
I got two of these ( linky ) and they work just fine, and fit the LFF backplane.
Standard depth for dell servers is ~30 inches. If you're using the rapid rails they have a range of +-2inches.
I recently got this rack set it to 30 inches and it fits my R710 wonderfully with rapid rails.
i've been looking into a rack, I know you said diy but this one has a good price.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK25U/dp/B00O6GNLQE/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449928394&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=server+rack
I built my NAS from this 4U case and I am very happy with it. It doesn't have hot-swap but you will pay a lot more for that. The case has plenty of room, holds 12 drives, and has several places for fans. Each 4-drive cartridge holds a full size fan, too.
I don't think that's the right cable (though it might work). For my H700->R710 backplane, I needed right-angle cables that looked like this (these are way too short though):
https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-Internal-SFF-8087-36Pin-Right/dp/B01KFEVQ4E
H310 and H700 should use the same cables
Dell PN: P110M is what I ordered, which you need two. And they worked perfectly in my R710 to go from an H700 to the 3.5" backplane. I mentioned this before, and someone said those might be too short, but it's what I ordered and they worked.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-POWEREDGE-R710-PERC-H700-H200-6GBPS-SAS-SATA-RAID-CABLE-3-5-SERVER-P110M-/262926379196?hash=item3d37a228bc:g:AV0AAOSw9GhYeZ-2
Edit: oops, that one is from China too. But that's at least the right Dell Part Number to search for.
I use this velcro in my rack and it's perfect.
$119.95 - CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS System, 1500VA/900W, 10 Outlets, AVR, Mini-Tower
\https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;psc=1
Fantastic price on this Pure Sinewave UPS. Using this on my lab (picked it up full price) will be getting a second for my personal computer.
I tried the amazon ones then a left and right set from eBay. They were all wrong. I just got straight ones in the end.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01KFEVQ4E?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It’s amazon.ca I hope that’s ok.
If all you want is a dumb swith I agree with /u/CollateralFortune . But I also agree with /u/G01d3ngypsy and I would spend a few more bucks and get something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-CSS326-24G-2S-RM-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B0723DT6MN/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1519311016&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=mikrotik+24+port+switch
I keep a kill-a-watt around when I want to test how much power electronics draw. It should be accurate to at least 10% and has a max of 15A. It can measure voltage, current, power, and kwh.
I usually just plug everything into a power strip and use the kill-a-watt to measure the entire system's power consumption at once. They are pretty cheap so you can buy multiple if you need to test more than one thing at once.
I have my gaming PC in my rack. This is the case I use: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055EV30W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_wDqgyb77BXYEN
It is big enough, that's for sure.
I also use this for my gaming pc through a hole in my rack because I keep my rack locked: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HG7HO22/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xFqgybVHH39NF
Edit: Looks like the price for the case has gone up $25 since I bought 3 of them.
This isn't from personal experience, but the people I've talked to suggested cyberpower emphatically until you are into the fairly high end units.
If you're looking into high end rack mount units, or the crazy refridgerator size units, APC is good. It looks like you're looking in the $150 range, in which case everything I have heard would suggest that APC is a poor choice.
Incidentally, it looks like you're looking into the nicer version of the one that I have: http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500AVRLCD-Intelligent-1500VA-Mini-Tower/dp/B000FBK3QK/ref=pd_sim_e_3
Which has given me zero problems. I use it for my desktop, I intend to pick up another for my router/modem/file server in the near future. The software reckons that I have 24 minutes of battery and am currently using 186 watts.
Yep, C7. Sorry about that. My current plan is to convert my PC into a whitebox running pfSense with this quad nic, and just use the C7 as an access point. I've been looking for an excuse to buy a new rig anyway. Do you think this is a good solution?
Nah, anything but. Adjustable depth, but definitely not something I'd call custom.
Might want to check electricity consumption of the 2950 vs r210. I suspect the 2950 pulls considerable more watts, even with a light setup (fewer drives, slower/low watt procs, etc).
A r210 with E3-1240 3.3Ghz, 4 UDIMMS (2G), 2x500G 7.2k SATA, 2x1G ethernet, iDRAC has the following:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/r210-ii_1p_e3-1240_250w_energy_star_data_sheet.pdf
The best $20 I've spent in a while was for the Kill-A-Watt:
A cheap suggestion to lower the sound is by switching to Noctua fans. They are well known for being very quiet. I picked these fans up and they are considerably quieter than what I got with my case.
For some BIOS, you can setup the fan speed based on the the temperatures. I did that as well.
Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG2PGY6
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KF7MVI2
Case:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG
Amazon Rack 4 post, Comes in a flat pack and worth every $ent ! https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Open-Frame-Server-Rack/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=sxin_3_ac_d_pm?ac_md=4-0-VW5kZXIgJDMwMA%3D%3D-ac_d_pm&keywords=Server+rack&pd_rd_i=B00P1RJ9LS&pd_rd_r=c9575c95-0ec3-4981-8fe7-62c414e7fbc5&pd_rd_w=T51LV&pd_rd_wg=01wPv&pf_rd_p=24d053a8-30a1-4822-a2ff-4d1ab2b984fc&pf_rd_r=D1EJ7W126SPPQ742TCYF&psc=1&qid=1572889682
Only the Xeon D match that criteria, but like you said they're expensive, for instance.
if you just need more ports just get this.
full gigabit (vs 10/100 on the 3560s), 8 ports which is plenty for what most people do, doesn't use a fuck load of power, and it's like ~23 after shipping
These Navepoint shelves are pretty cheap and will hold a lot of weight.
I didn't buy the rails because they were pretty expensive so I just picked up these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060RUVBA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
It's an adjustable StarTech 12U rack. Bought it on Amazon for around $212.
Looks like it's gotten cheaper since then:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P1RJ9LS?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
This one looks decent too and pretty cheap. Add a small SSD and some Ram.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0179S50UU?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_9&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Hey I just recently replaced my 5th gen i5 NUC with a box I built for Plex and ESXi. I found my i5 NUC could do 3 streams at once. But I'm not sure if all of those were 1080p transcodes or not. That was also with no other intensive processes running.
Here's what I built:
Then you can go with any DDR4 ECC RDIMMs, I chose this.
This would be a pretty beefy box but I think it's worth the money. You may want to go the avoton route as /u/cidvis suggests if you're looking for something cheaper.
Yes, I have this in the rack: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00077INZU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
So, everything that is plugged into that will be grounded through that via the wall outlet, is that correct?
Is it sitting on the bottom of the rack?
Or did you use something like this? https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1522809791&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=server+rails
This is what I thought would make it more than 4U (albeit slightly more than 4U (by fractions of an inch).
Are those full depth or just switch depth?
This is a comparable Trip Lite enclosure for 12U 32inch depth(which is mid depth and not the full 36 like this one) I can't find any full enclosure new for under $450. Even the open 4 post ones are $200 range normally.
Little above 200 but fits alot including larger boards
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165140
otherwise this is close to what i use, not many 5 1/4 but it can fit alot of hard disks
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Rackmount-Computer-Pre-Installed-RSV-R4000/dp/B0055EV30W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500922482&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=server+case
Velcro cable wraps - Check your local Lowes/Home Depot/Walmart/Whatever, they may have the two packs for the same price as one roll from Amazon. I've lost entire rolls, and it's still worth the price. I'm sure I'll find the lost rolls eventually, of course. >.>
Rackmount PDU to replace the power strip you have on the floor.
Real rackmount gear to replace the home stuff you have stacked on top of other devices. ;)
Everytime I see the cranked down zip ties, I feel the need to point out these. Works way better than zip ties.
That one looks good.
This is what I use on my lab
TP-Link is a good choice: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Ethernet-Replacement-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511513050&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=gigabit+switch
Mikrotik CSS326-24G-2S+RM is a good option. It has two SFP+ ports, don't know whether you need this. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-CSS326-24G-2S-RM-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B0723DT6MN
I like these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E1Y5O6/
has a loop to hold itself to one end, to they don't get lost and make clutter when the cable is in use, and can take up slack when it is in use. Cheap too. Tight hooks and loops so it doesn't pick up as much trash as others. I'll even remove and replace some of the Velcro that comes on things already.
I'm not from India bt it looks like this rack is available there:
https://www.amazon.in/StarTech-com-Adjustable-Levelers-Management-4POSTRACK12U/dp/B00P1RJ9LS/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=12u+server+rack&qid=1569432947&sr=8-4