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Reddit mentions of Dell OptiPlex 7010 Minitower Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-3470, 3.2GHz, 8GB, 1TB, DVD, Windows 10 Professional (Renewed)
Sentiment score: 8
Reddit mentions: 15
We found 15 Reddit mentions of Dell OptiPlex 7010 Minitower Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-3470, 3.2GHz, 8GB, 1TB, DVD, Windows 10 Professional (Renewed). Here are the top ones.
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Intel Core i5-3470 - 3.2GHz Processor8GB DDR3 - 1TB SATA Hard Drive.DVDMicrosoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit).
Specs:
| Height | 14.2 Inches |
| Length | 16.4 Inches |
| Size | 7010 |
| Weight | 20.7 Pounds |
| Width | 6.9 Inches |
My dude, I'm being legit with this, If it's just going to be an email, photo and video center with the occasional taxes, why spend so much time and money? Just get a cheap prebuilt and call it a day.
It'll save them hundreds, do what they need and keep you from being blamed for everything bad happening.
Here cheap Optiplex with 1 tb of storage and 8 gigs of ram and Windows 10
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_a3L2Cb03B269F
https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-0001-4S7R8?Item=9SIACAGA170269
Here's another option with more RAM and a better CPU in the same price bracket. Either would be fine for Minecraft. Good luck! You're a good parent.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=desktop+PC&qid=1570391136&sr=8-13
Here's another similar option for less as well.
https://www.amazon.com/HP-ProDesk-600-G1-SFF/dp/B07BCGW85X/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=desktop+pc&qid=1570391462&sr=8-19
Here's a pretty thrifty option with a 4th gen i5. Ultimately, this is what I'd go with. If you're savvy, toss an SSD into them later on the cheap.
Let's go with an optiplex
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vEh0CbEN87DKA
Slam a gpu in there https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16814202283?m_ver=1
And a new PSU
https://m.newegg.com/p/pl?d=corsair%20cxm%20450w&N=-1&SortType=8&m_ver=1
Take this information and run it through pcpartpicker and /r/buildapc to have everyone check for compatibility. We need the hive mind for this one.
> 4gb ram, nvidia 920m, intel pentium 3825u
not gonna happen. here:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1537794019&sr=1-9&keywords=dell+optiplex
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-04G-P4-6253-KR/dp/B01MF7EQJZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1537794043&sr=1-2&keywords=1050ti
TLDNR; Without having more info on what I described in the first paragraph. I'd say just buy a couple 10TB Easystores on sale ($180ea) and use your current SBCs and smaller server setups. After I wrote all of this I saw that you are from AUS(I think), so no clue if you can get close to $18 per TB in your area, but prices are coming down every year so sometimes better to just save $$$. It is super fun to think about a new and more powerful setup, plus buying it and putting it together, but as you can see I've done a lot of this thinking already. You are also probably feeling guilty that you have to make use of all your 2TBs, but lots of little HDDs do require more electricity to power up and cool. You need storage density and you cant get around that. Upgrade to 10TB and use the 2TB as a cold storage (backup). You are at a heck of a crossroads because the cost to go from SBCs to a "Proper" server plus buying storage isnt a cheap one. Currently there are limited stepping stones, but more powerful SBCs and Ryzen Embedded are here and on the way so wait if possible. Either way you go, you will spend more money and use up storage faster than you planned... The more powerful SBCs arent always cheap either, once you factor in cost of: memory card, power supply, case, possible heatsink/extra heat sinks, a fan, etc. Their lower price starts creeping into the middle range...
What brand, how many, and how long have the 2TBs been powered on for? It sounds like you are currently swapping out the 2TBs for others depending on what you want to watch and on which HDD it is? Do you have any projected storage numbers and what is your current and future budget? You mentioned that you have a small dedicated server? Is that another SBC or what is with that setup and how many sata ports? I'd forgo the transcoding ideas and nix buying any sort of new "Server" options. Focus on reusing what you have or going with a "Used" setup, so you can start saving that money for when 8TB or 10TB Easystores go on sale.
IMO for a true new build you'd want to price in ECC RAM, UPS, and I personally prefer a case that has hot swap access to HDDs. The Rosewill that meemo linked cant be beat for the price especially since it comes with 7 fans, but it requires extra steps to access the HDDs (internally only), which may be fine for you. There is Mediasonic (JBOD version only) that you could plug into your SBC, but that technically isnt hot swappable either, plus it is USB 3.1 to USB-C which isnt the worst but it isnt the best... I know you wanted to get away from SBCs, but if you disable transcoding there are some SBCs that use SATA to SATA connections that are very viable. Any SBC or standalone storage that uses USB is a potential risk, since USB can suffer connection issues when doing rebuilding, parity, and scrubbing maintenance (same if your power goes out, hence a need for UPS). Helios4 is a time restricted option, since they only open up orders once or twice a year (they are currently taking orders). *I saw a post saying that since the Helios4 is a 32bit processor, so it is limited to 16TB volumes. You get 2GB ECC + 4x SATA and I believe you can use any HDD size with that (double check tho), so 4 separate 10TB volumes (4x$180sale=$720+tax), not including parity... I'm not sure how the 32bit and the 16TB volume limit effect drive pooling... I gotta research more into that. I'm not familiar with the UnRaid, FreeNAS, or the other options that you mentioned, but OpenMediaVault4 has MergerFS drive pooling and Snapraid plugin, you could run 3x storage HDD and 1x parity or you could forgo parity for now. If you prefer Windows (You can also run omv4 on windows in a VM) there is Stablebit Drivepool (Not free) for pooling and then Snapraid (not completely novice friendly) for parity. Depending on the HDD type you could reuse the discarded Easystore enclosures and put your 2TB drives in there (still USB connection). If they are a different brand (non WD/HGST) I think you have to desolder something on the Easystore board? I lost the link on how to do that. You could also just keep the 2TB as cold storage backups, but that still carries a risk, but it's cheaper. You could also get 2nd Helios, but for about the same price you could use that money on a 10TB. That would replace 5x of your 2TB drives... Not too mention the extra electricity to power and cool 5x drives vs 1x drive... As you can see, storage density starts coming into play here, big time.
UPS https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N18S/
Mediasonic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078YQHWYW/
Helios4 https://shop.kobol.io/collections/frontpage/products/helios4-full-kit-2gb-ecc-3rd-batch-pre-order?variant=18881501528137
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/as17od/helios4_batch_3_available_for_preorder/
There are other SATA SBCs that you could use and you could also do a janky setup and put the SATA SBCs inside a hot swappable case like this Silverstone one. There are other cases, but this is the only name that came to mind. This case also doesnt have any power supply or fans to cool the HDDs so there will be extra cost there, plus you'll need a power supply, PLUS a way to turn on your power supply (with a power board), since that SBC setup wont have a motherboard. You can also make your own "Dumb" JBOD HDD enclosure and connect that to your mini server. Another option to SBCs is the ASRock cpu+mobo line: J3455-ITX, J4105-ITX, annd J5005-ITX. The issue with this that it appears you are still limited to 4x SATA or other variations of these boards have a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot at x1 or x2 transfer lanes/speed instead of x8 or x16... Also you have to factor in the price of ram and a mini PICO power supply. There is a subreddit+website that focuses on used parts for cheap server setups, but you might want to verify the power consumption of those setups when they are idling. With the NAS killer option, you gotta make sure all of the parts are still available on ebay or refurb sites, plus make sure you have time to build your setup to verify everything is working plus stress test it before the return window closes to weed out any weak used parts.
Silverstone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAELTAI/
HDD enclosure option https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-5-25-Inch-3-5-Inch-Hot-swap-SATAIII/dp/B00DGZ42SM/
Power Board https://www.amazon.com/Super-Micro-Computer-Supermicro-Cse-ptjbod-cb2/dp/B008FQZHZE
J3455-ITX https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-157-728
https://www.serverbuilds.net/nas-killer-v30/
Another option if you really want transcoding and a more powerful "Server" would be a Dell Optiplex 7010, which are used business computers that are "Refurbished", but I think they just take them from that company and wipe the hard drive, nothing else. The Minitower Desktop version is roomier than the slightly cheaper SFF (SmallFormFactor) version, which might be important if you want to swap out the power supply, watch the youtube video to get an idea of what you are getting into. Since a cheap power supply is a weak point plus a potential hazard I'd recommend swapping in a new power supply, but you could risk it with its current power supply. Everything else should last for a good while. You'll also need to install a HBA card. You can get Genuine used cards that were in good working order or you could get a new knock off from China. Both options are viable, but personally I prefer the used option. Theartofserver, ebay seller, also has a youtube channel, so I purchased from him, but I have also purchased from other sellers and got good working parts (I think Ebay still has the most honest and accurate rating system out there?). Since the Optiplex doesnt have room for internal HDDs then you are left with a few options with various HBA cards (internal vs external), expander cards, and adapter setups (SFF-8087 to SFF-8088). If you want it to look "Proper" there will be a lot of wasted money on 2x adapters (1x Optiplex + 1x external HDD enclosure) and an extra SFF-8088 cable between the two. I'd just go janky with it and get a longer reverse breakout cable of 3.3feet (4x SATA to 1x SFF-8087), which should be long enough to go from your external HDDs setup into the Optiplex case and internally connected to the HBA card, like the popular 9201-8i. The janky part being that you'll have the reverse breakout cable snaking directly into each case, instead of plugging into an adapter in the back.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Internal-Breakout-SFF-8087/dp/B018YHS9GM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-LSI-6Gbps-SAS-HBA-LSI-9201-8i-9211-8i-P20-IT-Mode-ZFS-FreeNAS-unRAID/162958581156
Single adapter https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133055
Double adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GPD9QEQ/
SFF-8080 cable https://www.amazon.com/Norco-Technologies-C-SFF8088-External-SFF-8088/dp/B003J9CZCK/
Results of a random amazon search. Pair that with a decent monitor (1080p monitors can typically be found for ~$100) and you're set.
Edit: I mean don't forget keyboard/mouse/speakers but those can be found for cheap.
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | $79.89 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD97YJ/asrock-b450m-hdv-r40-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-hdv-r40) | $64.89 @ OutletPC
**Memory** | [Patriot 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDc48d/patriot-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-2400-memory-psd48g2400k) | $34.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W9jJ7P/adata-su635-480-gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu635ss-480gq-r) | $47.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwsKHx/rosewill-case-fbm01) | $29.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kCtQzy/evga-br-500w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-br-0500-k1) | $45.88 @ OutletPC
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $323.63
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$303.63**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2019-09-17 18:00 EDT-0400 |
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Or:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1IWI6D0900MZ2&keywords=7010+optiplex&qid=1568757722&sprefix=7010+opt%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-5
and
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-480GB-Solid-SA400S37-480G/dp/B01N0TQPQB/ref=sr_1_12?crid=6651RM01FS6R&keywords=ssd+500gb&qid=1568757780&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027459011&rnid=6797515011&s=pc&sprefix=ssd%2Caps%2C150&sr=1-12
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The top is a new build with the only part being cheeped out on being the case. It's modern, has all the latest codecs, features, etc. The bottom option saves you about $100, but it's very much what you see is what you get. You can add a power efficient graphics card later, but you're pretty much stuck with 6-7 year old processors, last generation RAM, I believe the motherboard is propitiatory. It'll do what you want now, but it is basically a dead purchase. If your needs change significantly you can take the first system all the way up to 12 cores/24 threads, change to a higher rated PSU, throw in a powerful GPU, add more RAM. All without throwing out everything you already have that works.
Dell i7-4790 with 8GB Ram
Dedicated computer. The link shows an i5, but I received an i7.
BV-Tech POE switch
4 Reolink RLC-410's
BI is the full licensed version.
What kind of gaming are you interested in, and what kind of workloads do you realistically think you'll do?
Above, someone listed a build for $400, but its missing monitor and keyboard and mouse, that's not really going to work. It would be better to get something like a refurbished Dell with a 3rd Gen i5, and add a GPU.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-3470-vs-Intel-Celeron-G3900/2771vsm86156
Amazon as an example
Even Better with an 3rd gen i7 and a small ssd.
You can likewise buy used GPUs as well. I don't know the used market very well, so hopefully someone can point you in that direction.
The benefit here or something like this, is it comes with a windows licence. Currently and generally those are about $100 by themselves, or 20-25% of your budget, unless you were looking to set sail or use a sketchy site. With an older prebuilt, you can find documentation and even build guides on installing GPU for your particular model. Absolute extreme work around is getting an PCI extension cable to pull the gpu out of the case.
Limitations with this is an older GPU of an SKU level will not be as resilient long term. I'm actually finally no longer exceeding recommend spec on new video games running the 4th gen i7 (it's been solid), so latest and greatest this will not do, but latest and low or medium specs at 1080 should be fine for the next few years.
If you're interested in upgrading components as you go, going with a prebuilt like the used Dells above will not be advisable as they tend to not keep standards, but if you're comfortable to do so, do it. I would recommend adding a swear jar instead: everytime you daydream about parts or complain about low textures or slow parts, add some change or dollar to a jar. Eventually you'll save up enough money and resentment to buy the things you think you want but don't fill that emptiness in your soul any more than what you have.
I'm really curious what kind of budgeting or miracles are you performing to sell a prebuilt to buy a Macbook? Outside of specific programs that run better or exclusively on Mac, even buying a used Mac meant a premium of what the hardware can do.
TLDR: PC gaming is like buying a boat: far more expensive than you think going in, there's always something to spend more money on. And the days where you really feel the sun and the wind and the water are far fewer than you realize when you spend the money.
It really depends on what you are needing it for. If you're looking for just a general good deal then there's usually refurbished ones that businesses or schools upgraded from that you can either find locally or online.
Here's one I recommend to a lot of the customers at my work to run their point of sale server
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_SfH5CbMYHRXAV
Try to be more specific about your price range and usage, and maybe I can suggest something else.
Like this? https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=VREQTYKEMCEPNXTFCQ1S&th=1
Something like this is a ton better: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-Tower-AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Graphics-1TB-HDD-8GB-SDRAM-DVD-Mouse-Keyboard-Shadow-Black-Green-LED-Light/755857361?findingMethod=wpa&tgtp=1&cmp=15510&relRank=1&tax=3944_3951_132982_1231068_1224739&pt=sp&adgrp=16495&bt=1&plmt=1145x345_B-C-OG_TI_2-20_HL-BOTTOM-NY&wpa_qs=O8l5Q7UDLeFQomP-VyteKLsbf-3FHzyaCOQq1ZUrnZJZGGlcX5OokGXGVNTzijntmqyesCZMemhY8n960MdGiJVPZPLk6G6e7oLSAhZoSJk&bkt=&mLoc=bottom&pgid=pc-computer&isSlr=false&itemId=755857361&relUUID=5244512e-f6da-48b7-a62d-90317645a953&adUid=0da30d70-eb24-42fc-82fe-72cd1504938a&adiuuid=4f79b7d5-6466-4fb3-90a0-8a57ea55b084&adpgm=wpa&pltfm=desktop
But I could see getting a cheaper tower and the buying a 1050 gpu and putting that in. In this case it has the 1050 and 8 gig ram.
Maybe something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&qid=1543247737&sr=8-40&keywords=pc+computer
Dell Optiplex 7010
There is a link to the pc. I am new to this so I don’t know what to look for.
Also can I expect similar performance out of the RX 570?
This was my response before
You clearly underestimate how long 2 hours really last. If you're playing a game, getting really pissed off and not enjoying your time after 1 hour, it would be reasonable to not want to own the game anymore. You mentioned PC games running worse than consoles. Even if that were true, you could just refund the game until the company optimizes it much better (which is what people did when Arkham Knight came out; and W.B Games actually listened to them)
I'm sorry I didn't cite my sources last time. So I'll do it this time https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/game-stop-shares-fall-after-second-quarter-profit-and-revenue-miss.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/10/gamestop-store-closings-2019-retailer-closing-up-200-stores/2279343001/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/06/08/how-much-did-gamestops-sales-fall.aspx
"Where are these companies that make PCs that will stomp console? Never mind it’s in fantasy land" I dunno man. NZXT BLD and OriginPC seem pretty real. Also a prebuilt PC with an RX 580 and a Ryzen 7 2700 CPU only costs about $650 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=gaming+PC&qid=1568421808&s=gateway&sr=8-6
Oh I can't ever accept that I'm wrong? I'm sorry, I guess the word objective just completely disappeared from the english dictionary. I guess Better Framerats, Graphics, Upgrade-able hardware, free online, convenience, options, freedoms don't exist to you. Also, don't compare me to liberals. The liberals you're thinking of are completely closed minded.
[–]to Donger-Lord sent 22 hours ago
The fact that you have to use ad hominem attacks in your rebuttle clearly shows how emotionally attached you are to your stance on this subject.
[–]to Donger-Lord sent 21 hours ago
I know you're probably not the biggest fan of me, but if you ever change your mind about PC gaming, then here's an alternative to building your PC or buying a $600 prebuilt. Get a PC like the Dell Optiplex 7010 which actually has no proprietary parts as far as I'm concerned https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sxin_3_sxwds-bovbs?keywords=dell+optiplex+7010&pd_rd_i=B01K0GNUOG&pd_rd_r=05da0e7d-1fb9-45c2-ac21-d8943f19ee8d&pd_rd_w=zQkzL&pd_rd_wg=Mou8g&pf_rd_p=b866bc3b-cfe5-45c1-897c-a8525a3335d9&pf_rd_r=5DFECSZRTKW3165Y70EN&qid=1568423180&s=gateway
Then what you can do is replace the PSU inside of it with a 3rd party PSU from EVGA, Corsair or Seasonic. Make sure that it's either 80+ or 80+ bronze certified at the very least. After that, you can add pretty much any GPU (the RX 570 4gb is definitely a recommendation) and there you go. You can basically play any game at 1080p60 medium-high settings. An rx 570 is only about $130-150 and a psu like the one I mentioned is about $35-50.
Hope I have helped at least a little bit.
[–]to Donger-Lord sent 2 hours ago
So what? Did I win the argument? Were my points stupid? Is there nothing more to respond to?
This fat boy looks good. Almost all refurbished workstations I skimmed through had SFF cases that were going to choke the living fuck out of my GPU. But this beefy bitch will hopefully give it room to breathe. Gonna consider it if I didn't find anything better.