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Hey there, Kramjam. I am in the midst of the same process looking in a similar price range. I am sick of always being disappointed in my gaming experience. I have used budget(ish) laptops and am now switching over to pre-built desktops for some true gaming with room to easily grow as gaming evolves. I thought it'd be helpful to write out my top choices.

I have found some good deals and have listed them. I am debating waiting until after Thanksgiving to see if there are any better offers. I have to decide soon, I guess!

This HP Omen 7700 GTX NVIDIA 1070. $1055.55 on Amazon now. It's the lower end of my spectrum but I think a great value. I am looking at 1080 and 8700 ideally but this is a mighty fine desktop and a huge jump for me. The brand name is helpful here too. Don't know about wifi connect.

I am leaning towards the iBUYPOWER 8700k GTX 1070 Ti. $1,399 Amazon. Great reviews, good value, and nice add-ons. I don't need a lighting remote but that's neat to have. Liquid cooling is also pretty cool (ha!). Good specs, good price, nice accessories, can't complain.

ABS 8700 GTX 1080. $1349.99 Newegg. This almost made it an easy search for me. GTX 1080 plus a great price. My biggest concern is reliability. A few bad reviews on Newegg scared me off and I think this is even their in-house brand. The customer service seems good enough from some research but I would rather not have any problems at all. If you want to roll the dice, I think this is the best value you can find. They also do a 1060 and 1070 for lower prices as you should see in the link. This is it's bigger, badder brother running 1080Ti and 8700k at $1,749.99.

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cyberpowerpc AMD Ryzen 2700 but NVIDIA RTX 2070. $1,449 Amazon. I having been leaning Intel so not a fan of AMD. This system is 3.2 GHz 8 core whereas the Intel 7700, like in the HP Omen, is 3.6 GHz 6 core. But an RTX 2070 in a prebuild desktop for only $1,449 is ridiculous from my research. It's overkill for what I am using now and I would like a better processor but I thought I would put it here for you.

cyberpowerpc Intel 8700k NVIDIA GTC 1070 Ti. $1,549 Amazon. Same stats as the iBuypower but for $150 more. I guess I like the design more than the i.b.p. but I'd rather save the $150. Maybe post-Thanksgiving will shake this price down??

SKyTech 8700k GTX 1080. $1,549.99. 1070 Ti is $1,499.99. Amazon. Looks great in terms of specs, reviews, even looks and add-ons. I would choose this over the cyberpowerpc above. Has some more customizable options too. But based on our budget, I think you would be better suited for the HP Omen or the iBuypower.

Tl;DR

The HP Omen and iBUYPOWER options listed are my two top choices but all of these made it to my final list. I think another $350 for a better processor, slightly better graphics, and better add-ons makes the iBUYPOWER worth it. Even if the name is terrible...

I hope this helps! Please share any of your insights as well.


Edit: I included the differences in specs most important to me. All have at least 240 GB SSD and some have 2 instead of 1 TB of HDD. All of 16 GB of memory and Windows 10.

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I would say there is a sweet spot for performance with every price tier.
I would recommend building with an AMD 570 or 580 as your GPU. at 1080P they are extremely powerful cards for the money and in comparison to the lower priced cards, there is a HUGE performance jump when you get a 570 or higher ( Nvidia 1060 is good too but i feel like you are currently getting more for your money with AMD).


If you go below a 570 you are going to have to cut corners on gfx settings in everything and in the long term you won't feel like your money went as far.


So that GPU is around 180ish bucks and a 580 4gigabyte version is only 210. SO its worth the 30 bucks, bigtime. You can max out pretty much every single game at 1080p 60fps. The 480 is almost the exact same card.


On the CPU front it's going to be a hard choice. Dayz loves faster cores so Intel is def faster, but that comes at a decent cost. If we are talking about the lower tier of CPUs ( sub 200 bucks) the i5's are not overclockable so AMD kinda wins here to IMO. A 1500x or 1400 can be had for 170-190 bucks, they are overclockable and have a decent stock cooler. The intel parts will always need a cooler if you buy one you can OC. I would ALWAYS purchase an overclockable CPU. The return on your investment is worth it.


Above all DO NOT BUY FX series AMD cpus. A cheap I3 will better in most cases.

A B350 ryzen support motherboard is 100 bucks. Would recommend picking one with good onboard sound though.

8 gigs of Ram 60$ is all you need.

50$ for a 1TB hard drive

CASE 50$ bucks and 35$ PSU (get at least a 500w) and you are set.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B01M3UKNVD

This PC is pre built and honestly is a way better value. I feel like this is the sweet spot, you will totally feel like you have a beast rig and not just something that works. It's like 200 bucks more but the difference in performance and longevity is massive. It is also above the minimum spec for VR! This MB and CPU are not capable of overclocking but it is a very strong CPU and won't bottle neck the GPU at all.


If you built it yourself you would be around 700$ish. That Prebuilt is perfect for someone like you. I personally always build it myself since it was surprisingly easy once I learned. If you know someone that could help you IRL then totally build yourself. Otherwise get the PC i linked man. It's going to make your money go so much further.

Above all DONT GET FX amd cpus. You will feel the inadequacy immediately. You can go cheap on the GPU if it is at least a 460 (560) or 1050ti (950, 750ti). That can be easily upgraded later. DO NOT buy any GPUs lower than the ones i mentioned.

Remember that you can plug this PC into your TV. All new flat panel TV's are essentially PC monitors with higher latency. That could save you a good bit of funds till later. I play on a 46 inch in a recliner with a wireless g700s mouse and keyboard. I had to do some research to buy the right TV to get low enough latency, but you can make do with the TV you play consoles on, especially since steam has big picture mode.

I have almost the same level of rig as the prebuilt and i get 60+ fps on high setting 90% of the time. Only in major cites does it drop and it is only around 50fps then. So Dayz looks awesome and is smooth as silk. Heck i play witcher 3, DOOM, and Battlefield 1 on ultra and stay at 60 fps 90% of the time.

If you drop down to the PC you linked you will play on the lowest settings and it will dip into the 30fps range in cites or lower. The difference in how the game feels between the two PC's is like night and day.

Depends on what specs you want on the prebuilt. I used to recommend the prebuilds from manufacturers like Dell or HP but I realized that someone who purchased one wasn't able to add anything or upgrade it because they're so compact with the actual pc tower and can't fit anything else. So prebuilts through something like cyberpower pc or something that actually uses mid size towers with a ton of room are better options because you can actually reuse parts like the case. But a worthwhile prebuild might still be $700, maybe $600 if on sale. There's not many that would have the specs like the list i have above because it's a bit lower tier of a pc (still really good for gaming though). I don't know what your financial situation is or how long it would take you to save money, but you don't necessarily have to wait years before you can make a pc. Just take some time to get a little more funds to get a solid pc, you won't regret it. And waiting may help as well since prices are really hard to manage right now. Anyway, follow r/buildapcsales as they post a lot of prebuild pc's that are found to be on sale. Something like this is typically on the cheaper side of prebuilds but those are the small cases that have very little room for upgrades. Something like this would be better suited for upgrades.

I'm just basing all of this based on what you said, and it seems like you really want to build your own pc but you're willing to sacrifice that experience initially to get a prebuild until you're ready. So somewhere along the line, you're definitely looking to physically build your own which in that case, I would not look to get a prebuild first. You'd just end up using your money on something that may actually do you well for awhile, giving you little reason to actually upgrade. Then, if you actually decide to upgrade, you're left with little options as you might be replacing 3/4th's of your prebuild to get better components and at that point, it's basically like you're building an entirely new pc.

tl;dr just save up a little more. That was a lot to type but I hope I got the point out for you.

Edit: prebuilt included at bottom of post.

If your issue with building a pc is taking time to select parts, you can have the friendly people at r/buildapcforme put together a list of parts for you, and then you'd only have to visit their neatly organized set of links and put the items in your cart (usually just on amazon.com and newegg.com, occasionally ebay.com as well).

As for prebuilts, just look for something cheap. Basically anything nowadays can run the games you've listed.

If you want to go for dirt cheap, and don't mind ordering parts, you can build a computer with the ryzen 3200g APU (no dedicated GPU), 8 GB of RAM, and a b450 motherboard for... cheap. Just off the top of my head... $100 for the CPU (Actually APU), 8 GB RAM, currently $30ish, though usually around $50 (and the prices are in flux right now), Almost $100 for a motherboard with wifi, though this can be $50 if you plug it into your home router with an ethernet cable. Add a $50 case, a more than adequate, good quality $50 PSU, as well as a small-ish SSD (the linked one is a 512 GB priced at $70) and you've got yourself a completed build. Note that you'll need a desk, chair, monitor, speakers/headset, keyboard, and mouse to use this as well, and a pci-e wireless adapter if you want wifi (assuming you didn't spring for the motherboard that has built in wifi.)

Edit: Ran that through a calculator. Assuming that RAM ends up costing you $50 instead of $30, and you spring for the motherboard with WIFI, your computer will cost $350 $420. A monitor, keyboard, and mouse will jack the price up another $150ish, since most decent 1080p monitors are $100 new. You'll also need speakers, or a headset. I've edited my list above to add this, but didn't factor in price. You're most likely looking at an additional $200 for perhipials, including moniotor, if you go the cheap route; this also assumes that you have a desk (any kind that will fit a monitor, keyboard, and mouse up top, in addition to your computer tower below, will suffice) and a chair to sit in.

If you want to go the laptop route, used gaming laptops with a 960m or similar dedicated GPU usually go for about $500-$600 on Ebay. Feel free to shop around; I recommend looking specifically for a model that has support for an M.2 SSD, as you can rock a small (200-512 GB range) m.2 SSD in addition to a large (but cheap) 1 or 2 TB laptop (2.5 inch) HDD. Install the OS to the SSD, and enjoy fast as hell computer speeds; install games to the HDD and enjoy vast amounts of storage for super cheap. (This can also be done for your desktop, but most laptops only support 1 SATA storage device.)

And, hey would you look at that. I forgot to include a storage device in your system build! I'll add it in and adjust the price accordingly (probably up $50, for a total of $400.)

For comparison, I found this prebuilt computer It's got a better GPU, but the CPU is a generation behind what I've listed. It even seems to come with a keyboard and mouse. All in all, a better gaming machine, but with a price tag to reflect it; It was at $580 when I posted the link. Which honestly isn't all that bad. At all.

You know what. Screw the rest of my post. Buy that prebuilt and you're all set. Well, except for the monitor. And maybe Wifi? And speakers. But still, it's a good price. Note: There's a $530 option, the GPU is a massive downgrade and it's not worth saving $50 to get it instead of the $580 computer. Although, truthfully, both will serve your needs just fine.

Get an external hd for backups of you don't have one already.

Check this channel and get something nice.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCss3QxegBkF8BAetIo0qXA

Midrange extreme value. 580 dlls.
Rx 480 or others
R5 2600
16gb ram.
https://youtu.be/p9daTy901MA

My high end pick; 1380 usd.
I7 9700k.
Tb nvme ssd
16 ddr4
Rtx 2070.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B07KSXZFY7




I would set 1070 performance levels as standard. (1070 is cheap and bang for buck, but maybe consider an rtx with 8gb vram if you have the money)

if your gpu is already nice and want nicer then go for an rtx.

but want to know your old setup. I mean if you want upgrade define what's old, man.

What's your budget? I would go for a 3rd gen r5 or r7. R7 ir you are hard multi tasker.

I rather have multiple pcs on my pipeline. One for art one for coding. Multiple monitors and transfer files over lan.

8gb minimum. 12 would be ok. But if you can go to 16gb dual channel. Really good for multi tasking.

Plus you pc has to have resemblance to what the player is going to play. Unless you plan to use it as a server.

Minimum unity reqs are Like really low. Because it can simply develop for mobile. And use very primitive everything.

Minimum solid recommended id say
Sandy i3 or I5 2400 cpu.
4gb ram.
Gpu .. a 1060 or rx 480 just because it's so cheap used nowadays. (120 usd) or a 1050 for 75 dlls.

For refence a gt 1030 could work just fine for mobile.



Normal recommended I'd say
R5 1600 - 2600 if Intel at least 8th gen.

8gb ram would do but really 12gb if you want to have multiple programs running.
16 gb for perfect value and commodity.

A mobo with at least 4 ram slots.

Rx 480 8gb or rtx 2070 pref. Get lots of vram preferably.

Ssd obviously for OS and important unity projects.

If you really want to build it yourself watch techdeals yt channel.

Check jason weibman for the best unity tutorials.
Unity 3d college on YouTube.

He has the BEST paid unity course too. But if you want to learn unity in a professional effective way. Now you know were. He was a .net Dev too, then got into gamedev.

Cheers mate.

Feel free to ask for further information. I'm not sure how knowledgeable you are in computing hardware or expected performance in games.

> [Ryzen & GTX 1050 Ti Edition] SkyTech ArchAngel Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_J1f.Bb303ST2K

It's not terrible from specs alone, but I'd expect a lot better for the price. Let's compare:

CPU:

• Amazon $650 build (1200): Last generation 1000 series Ryzen. 4 core with 4 threads. Minimum expected multi-tasking capabilities. Current 2018 games will need to run at low-medium quality.
  
• My $480 build (2400G): Current generation 2000 series Ryzen. 4 core with 8 threads. Current 2018 games will need to run at low, or medium quality with a dedicated graphics card (like the 1050 Ti).
  
• My $600 build (2600): Current generation 2000 series Ryzen. 6 core with 12 threads. Near top-tier level performance for a relatively cheap price. Able to run 2018 games smoothly. Future-proofed for multi-threaded applications, for example, applications that require processing of statistics, data, video editing/encoding, 3D rendering (eg. architectural design, game/film artwork), creating applications (programming), and multi-tasking.
  
  None of these builds will have problems running "e-sports" games like League of Legends, Overwatch, Dota 2, Counter Strike, or similar games. Even in current games, the 1200(+1050Ti) and the 2400G will run similarly. However, current Triple-A games like Battlefield V, Black Ops 4, Hitman 2 and Assassin's Creed are already struggling on 4 core CPUs, and this is especially true for the $650 Amazon CPU which is only 4 cores and 4 threads. My build's $480 2400G has 4 cores and 8 threads. If the 2400G is upgraded with the 1050 Ti, then it would run at medium, and possibly with a bit higher performance than the 1200. However at this price, it would be better to get my recommended $600 build, with 6 cores and 12 threads. Although simplified, think of it this way: each CPU thread can handle one task at a time. Processing speed per thread is also important. See 1200 vs 2400, and 2400 vs 2600. Although the $650 and $480 builds will be able to still complete multi-threaded tasks like the $600 build, it will take more time to do so, and the computer may not be usable in certain circumstances until the processing is complete.
  
  GPU:
  
• Amazon $650 build (1050ti): Good entry level graphic card.
  
• My $480 build (2400G): Acceptable entry level graphic card.
  
• My $600 build (1050ti): Good entry level graphic card.
  
  Although the $650 build has a good graphics card, the reason it may not be able to perform at its best is because the CPU is rather weak. The computer CPU needs to communicate to the GPU to process the game's graphics, and if the GPU is waiting for the CPU to handle that task, the GPU will freeze up momentarily. For e-sports games and basic games, the $650 and $480 build should perform almost the same. However, once the $480 build is upgraded in the future with a dedicated graphics card (as simple as sliding a connector into place and screwing in a panel), it's performance will rise a little above, especially in newer games. With my $600 build, it is safe to say that the CPU will not at all limit the GPU (or even the latest $600 GPUs) in newer games.
  
  Memory:
  
• Amazon $650 build: Minimum expected memory speed - slower 2400. Games may run ~10 FPS slower. In addition, according to the preview images, there is only one stick of memory (1x8) and not two (2x4). This is the number-one sin to avoid. CPUs require two sticks of memory in order to function at optimal speeds. Gaming performance may be reduced by 20-30 FPS which is huge.
  
• My $480 build: (Near) Optimal memory speed.
  
• My $600 build: (Near) Optimal memory speed.
  
  Storage:
  
• Amazon $650 build: No SSD. Only HDD.
  
• My $480 build: SSD and HDD.
  
• My $600 build: SSD and HDD.
  
  The SSD (solid state drive, or the "adata" branded drive in my builds) is completely optional. However, installing Windows 10 to this drive will be worthwhile. The system will be considerably more responsive and faster, and load programs almost instantly.
  
  In regards to Windows, I believe it is still possible to use a windows 7 key to upgrade (despite Microsoft claiming to turn it off December last year). Otherwise, it is possible to install Windows 10 as an evaluation/trial copy, and even after the 30-120 day period, it will continue to function and receive updates like the paid version. However, the trial version will limit customization of the desktop wallpaper/colors (but other programs can override this).
  
  Actual Performance Numbers:
  
• 1200 and 1050 ti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_ktjGHyeg
  
• 1200 and 1050 ti (Assassin's Creed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFLR7GG5Fw
  
• 2400G and Battlefield V, low settings (50% resolution): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srb8ufOfnJ0
  
• 2400G (+1050 ti): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7lepo4WEX0
  
• 2600: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3288-amd-r5-2600-2600x-review-stream-benchmarks-gaming-blender/page-3
  
• 2600 (+1050 ti): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcNBTG3CyA

I’m not Canadian, but I’ll try to help.

This PC is a great build with an awesome CPU and a decent GPU but lacks both an SSD and 16 gigs of RAM, both necessary for future-proofing. (The SSD is necessary now, but you can hold off with 8 gigs of ram) Sadly, I can’t find builds that are less than 1k CAD with anything similar or better than this with more RAM or an SSD.

I recommend getting a separate SSD like this. (You can always do the cheaper 250 gb variant for less money). I recommend this SSD because it is one of the fastest and comes with amazing Windows 10 cloning software. this guide is how I installed mine (just ignore the laptop specific parts like removing the battery. You can then order a SATA wire like this one to install your SSD. (If you don’t know where in the case you should put your SSD, just use 3M or double sided tape and tape it someone aesthetically pleasing on the bottom of the case.

The sata cables should be obvious where to install (on the right side of the motherboard, usually stacked on top of each other, slightly above or below the GPU), otherwise, you can look up your motherboard to find the SATA slots. Then just install the cloning software and follow the guide. When you need more RAM, look at the PCs ram slot and order another 8 gig stick (if there is only 1 stick of 8 gigs), otherwise, just order 16 gigs of any DDR4 ram you want. I’m sorry you need to do work to get a fully future proof machine, but remember this isn’t 100% needed, just highly recommended. (Plus you can save 100 bucks from your paycheck a few weeks from now for the SSD, you don’t need it the second u get ur pc. Good luck, let me know if you need any help!

P.S You don’t even need a big SSD, just something to hold Windows 10 and programs like Steam and Chrome. Big stuff like games can go on the HDD

At least a GTX 1050, would be better if you could go for a GTX 1050 Ti. At least 8GB of ram. An i5 processor should be more than enough too, unless you're planning to play other games... but even then, it probably could get by but if it's just Sims 4 you're playing, you'll have no problem.

Other than the GTX 1050, if you're not bothered by the amount of vram, the GTX 1060 3GB is another choice. But just for The Sims 4, 3GB Vram is more than enough, but it also doesn't hurt to go for the 6GB because it's more future proof.

I currently have the GTX 1660, and it performs closely to the GTX 1070. That is another good card for a reasonable price. It also just came out this year.

Any of these specs should be able to run The Sims 4 on High/Ultra settings with most/all expansions/games/stuff packs

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A7/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1566267956&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1566267956&s=gateway&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDZPXV/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gtx+1060+desktop&qid=1566268507&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Your best bet is the first one

I don't know much about AMD so don't come for me sksks. But I think the RX 570 and RX 580 are close in performance to the GTX 1060/GTX 1660 and they're a lot more affordable compared to Nvidia, so you might want to look at that too.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2100 is more of a budget processor, it would play The Sims 4 fine, but if you're wanting to play other more demanding games too, look elsewhere.

1Tb HDD of space is the minimum I'd recommend. I've had The Sims 4 on an HDD before eventually switching it to my SSD and I haven't noticed much of a loading time difference, so it probably doesn't matter. But SSD would've made a huge difference in The Sims 3.

If it helps, these are my specs: it runs like a dream, and mind you I have like 20gb of CC.

Intel i7-8700 3.2GHz

16GB Ram

120GB SSD + 1TB HDD + 500GB External SSD

GeForce GTX 1660 Overclocked 6GB

I'd say it's a bit overkill *just* for The Sims 4, but I do run other games as well.

I'm not too knowledgeable, but I know a few basics. I hope that gives you somewhat of an idea. Hopefully someone who knows their stuff can chim in too :) good luck. I could be wrong in a few spots.

I find with the lower budgets, it's honestly a better deal a to just buy prebuilt. A lot of them are getting really good now because they realize people are knowledgable about PC parts. If you want a solid PC for the games you described, this would be my pick.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017HD69Z2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478430507&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc+i5&dpPl=1&dpID=41s5yWuHzJL&ref=plSrch

It's downside is it doesn't have the most amazing graphics card, but for the games you mentioned you really don't need a super amazing card. If you want to put in a few extra bucks but get a superior PC, I'd say go for this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HNBLHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478430701&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc+i5&dpPl=1&dpID=511WRjswCuL&ref=plSrch

For $720, the PC above is a great deal. Honestly I would go for that one because it's overall better for not that much more money, so not only will it be better for your games, but it will last longer in terms of the parts being powerful for any games you want to play in the future.


Either way best of luck!

Hello all. Looking to receive a little information that will hopefully help me make an informed and effective purchase of a new PC. I'm hoping to get something pretty heavy duty that can handle my music production/content creation, as well as some gaming capabilities. Saving money would be great, but first and foremost I need a PC that will be powerful enough to handle all my tasks.

I've been looking on Amazon primarily, and have found some interesting options. It seems to me a desktop would afford me the highest performance for the least price compared to a laptop. From what I gather, something with at least 3.5 GHz processor, 16 Gigs of RAM and a good graphics card is what I'll need to get everything done.

This for example seems to be a little too good to be true. 16 Gigs of RAM, 3.5 GHz processor speed. What is the catch? Maybe the graphics card wouldn't be strong enough to support any gaming capabilities. Or the fact that it is a refurbished product?

This Dell Gaming Desktop seems a little more legit. Quite a reasonable price, seems to have the processing, RAM and Graphics capabilities I would need. But is it adequate? Would I be struggling with some games? Would heavy projects in Ableton be too much for it?

So in summation, what is the difference between these mini desktop PCs that are going for just a couple hundred dollars, and the full size gaming desktops that I'm seeing? And further, what is the difference between a relatively inexpensive gaming tower like the Dell I linked, and a more serious gaming tower from a known gaming brand that will be starting closer to the 1200+ range.

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Hi! So I've been a pc gamer for a while (like 7 years...) but I have always owned a laptop (awful for gaming, I am super used to 30fps) and its been a huge frustration for me. But due to being broke I never upgraded and instead was ever-grateful when friends would let me game on their pcs. This year I have finally gotten to the point I am tired of trying to make my laptop work, but I have noticed that GPU prices are way higher (ty crypto-mining) and I don't know if I should just buy a prebuilt PC instead. I want to ideally be able to play overwatch, doom, pubg, and possibly stream them if desired (but definitely stream lol and other lower intensity games).

So far I let my friend make my build (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bvzv6s) but I feel like these Amazon builds would be cheaper in relation to what I am getting in exchange;
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Ultra-Gaming-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721735&sr=1-4&keywords=ibuypower+gaming+desktop
https://www.amazon.com/880-Performance-Desktop-i7-8700K-Windows/dp/B0792XZP57/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721615&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=hp+omen+desktop&psc=1

Which one should I stick to? Is there a way to improve my friend's build or lower the price? What would be the best option for doing what I am trying to accomplish?

(sorry if this isn't where I am supposed to be posting this question...)

This might get lost in the sea of comments... but...

I love Art, Music, and Computers. I'll give a brief description for now and if you want to know more, just ask!

• Art: I love Computer Art, lately. Using Piskel for pixel art, I used to work with Photoshop a lot, things here and there. I'm still down for some old fashioned pencil on paper sketching and doodling, though.
  
• Music: Video Game Soundtracks/ Movie Soundtracks: I became recently fascinated with the Undertale soundtrack, I love the style it goes for. The Mario and Luigi RPGs I love as well, with the DKC series being one of my all time favorites. Oh, and the Clustertruck OST and the TF2 OST.
  
• Computers: I'm looking at a $600 PC (not buying here) and I love messing around with specs, parts, arguing that PC gaming is better (however, console is okay as well, depends on the person) etc.
  
  Feel free to ask questions!

Sure here are a couple. The first comes with the ryzen 1400 which has more threads than the 1200, making slightly better for games like battlefield 1 which love CPUs that can prioritize better the information (for example having more cores). Of course it won't give you any drastic improvement, just less dips on occasion probably.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/5848610.p?skuId=5848610

Here is another with a last gen quad core i5, dollar for dollar I'd probably go for the ryzen 1400 over this as this CPU doesn't have hyperthreading but again for what you want it for it won't make much of a difference. Both CPUs are more than enough for 1080p medium to ultra settings if aiming for 60FPS.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-vr-desktop-intel-core-i5-7400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black-blue/5712949.p?skuId=5712949

Here is another PC sold by Amazon. Saves you $50 but gives you basically identical performance. It uses the RX 580 which trades blows with the 1060 3GB and 1060 6GB so it's a very good card, it just runs a bit warmer and uses more power.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-YEIAbP1XAWWK


I'd like to close off by saying that going with a ryzen also gives you the option to replace the CPU later with one of amds future CPUs released before 2020 as the boards will be cross compatible. Also, be wary of prebuilts for the internal componets. While they do offer cheaper alternatives at the moment, you run the risk of getting really generic RAM chips and motherboards. For example, you might buy the ryzen prebuilt but see after you get it that it comes with a really bottom of the list b320 motherboard meaning you can't overclock the the CPU. Don't know if that's the case for the ones I linked, you should call cyberpower to see.

An upside to building your own was the fact that you could get much better components and often for cheaper than it would cost to buy a prebuilt but today it's mostly just the better components due to the insane price increase of GPUs and RAM. Good luck!

Alright, I don't know crap about everything here except Plex, which isn't incredibly demanding. The economically logical thing to do would be to purchase a semi-capable PC dedicated to just your home server and media services, and then purchase another tower if you want to play games. It's definitely possible to get one machine to do both, but it'll most likely cost more than the two machines combined.

Anything from the last 5-6 years should do fine. However, you probably won't save that much money purchasing old hardware (like $150 at MOST). Something like this will do fine for your home server. You can then get something like this if you want to do some semi-light gaming. All for around $1k. Keep in mind these are references.

If I could know your budget (at the very least a range) and the types of games you'd want to play I could give some more specifics. Literally, anything will do for your home server, you shouldn't be paying more than $500 for that. I would recommend trying to get the i5 8th gen for your home server if possible. Wait till Black Friday as I'm sure you'll be able to find suitable PCs for cheap. Good luck!

That's a very good deal except for the GPU, it's a low range low power GPU. According to several benchmarks, the integrated graphics are better but in some CPU intensive games such as CS:GO or LoL, it performs better with a discrete card. Down the line, if you can afford it, you should replace the GPU with a mid range card such as the RX series from AMD or anything GTX 960 above.

If you can save up, you would be better off with this computer as the CPU and GPU are more balanced and it comes with a Wifi card. The i5 6402p performs wonderfully in games and the RX 480 is the perfect card to complement it. For example, on GTA V, at ultra settings, it's able to play at a consistent 80 FPS.

That depends on what you decide to save in money. It's not like you have to rush if you don't have the rest right away because a sale can happen at any time. For what you asked for, you can build a PC to get exactly what you wanted at least a price between $600 and $700. You can go cheaper, but I recommend this area so you at least can have a better experience with quality parts. Also, you still have to factor in accessories, and a monitor (but that's a later worry.) Just to double check, you want to play Dead Space 3 and Shadow of War?

Game performance and value: At medium settings, a 1050 Ti is just enough for that on both games, but I guarantee it will run Dead Space 3 much more stable at higher settings. It's a 7th gen game, and doesn't require much to run at recommended specs. Shadow of War should do fine on medium at 1080p resolution. However, in the case with price and performance, I would at least recommend a 1060 3GB card (possibly 6GB), or an RX 580. Those are both much faster and cost near the price of a 1050 Ti (which is more dated.)

If you can save up to build one, I can recommend you some parts on pcpartpicker to help you budget. Definitely use this site to help out with that.

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If you're not planning to build a PC, then I recommend the Cyberpower PC. This is actually pretty good value for a new pre-built gaming PC. You can still upgrade it later, and it has more than enough power for games you'll want to play.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

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Don't let those prices scare you away. If you don't have that much now, put aside some money each week, and you'll reach your goal before you know it. It'll be worth every penny with budgeting.

(Sometimes, the key idea is to wait for deals to show up.)

To be honest, if you are gaming and want a great experience, you could build a really amazing PC for $800.

If you are looking in the $600-$700 range though, I know the Dell Inspiron AMD Ryzen 7 is a great prebuilt computer; you get a graphics card capable of handling 1080P gaming right off the bat with 16GB of DRAM which is great as well. I don't like that it has an HDD however; but it is 1TB and is very easy to swap out for an SSD.

Also, if you were looking to spend slightly more, I believe the CyberPower PC Gamer Xtreme VR is an excellent choice as well; but again, HDD kinda sucks. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, just PM me and I'd be glad to help you!

Hey hey, just coming back to ask you a question... What do you think of this setup?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GG62872/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=AS7FYKC4NZ2W6SX5ADA6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=433e8818-d272-4fe1-982e-e584e87386b1&pf_rd_i=15201447011#customerReviews

It is currently a promotion for black friday on amazon, and I think it would be better for the price.
The price established above for the parts we picked in this thread seems to be achievable via a couple of rebate coupons, which I don't have access to since I am ordering this computer from Central America, hence the price actually goes around 1200.

So: 1200 for the one we've built so far, or, 1200 for the one on the amazon link above... which would be best?

Thank you so much for reading, I appreciate your help, you've been awesome and kind to give some of your time to help someone out, I appreciate it.

This was my response before

You clearly underestimate how long 2 hours really last. If you're playing a game, getting really pissed off and not enjoying your time after 1 hour, it would be reasonable to not want to own the game anymore. You mentioned PC games running worse than consoles. Even if that were true, you could just refund the game until the company optimizes it much better (which is what people did when Arkham Knight came out; and W.B Games actually listened to them)

I'm sorry I didn't cite my sources last time. So I'll do it this time https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/game-stop-shares-fall-after-second-quarter-profit-and-revenue-miss.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/10/gamestop-store-closings-2019-retailer-closing-up-200-stores/2279343001/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/06/08/how-much-did-gamestops-sales-fall.aspx

"Where are these companies that make PCs that will stomp console? Never mind it’s in fantasy land" I dunno man. NZXT BLD and OriginPC seem pretty real. Also a prebuilt PC with an RX 580 and a Ryzen 7 2700 CPU only costs about $650 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=gaming+PC&qid=1568421808&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Oh I can't ever accept that I'm wrong? I'm sorry, I guess the word objective just completely disappeared from the english dictionary. I guess Better Framerats, Graphics, Upgrade-able hardware, free online, convenience, options, freedoms don't exist to you. Also, don't compare me to liberals. The liberals you're thinking of are completely closed minded.

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  The fact that you have to use ad hominem attacks in your rebuttle clearly shows how emotionally attached you are to your stance on this subject.
  
  
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  I know you're probably not the biggest fan of me, but if you ever change your mind about PC gaming, then here's an alternative to building your PC or buying a $600 prebuilt. Get a PC like the Dell Optiplex 7010 which actually has no proprietary parts as far as I'm concerned https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sxin_3_sxwds-bovbs?keywords=dell+optiplex+7010&pd_rd_i=B01K0GNUOG&pd_rd_r=05da0e7d-1fb9-45c2-ac21-d8943f19ee8d&pd_rd_w=zQkzL&pd_rd_wg=Mou8g&pf_rd_p=b866bc3b-cfe5-45c1-897c-a8525a3335d9&pf_rd_r=5DFECSZRTKW3165Y70EN&qid=1568423180&s=gateway
  
  Then what you can do is replace the PSU inside of it with a 3rd party PSU from EVGA, Corsair or Seasonic. Make sure that it's either 80+ or 80+ bronze certified at the very least. After that, you can add pretty much any GPU (the RX 570 4gb is definitely a recommendation) and there you go. You can basically play any game at 1080p60 medium-high settings. An rx 570 is only about $130-150 and a psu like the one I mentioned is about $35-50.
  
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For Cities Skylines you want an an unlocked Intel CPU. The game in my experience is CPU limited and thread limited. For streaming more cores\threads is good. To be honest squeezing in a monitor and windows into the 850$ doesnt leave much room if the monitor is decent. I am skipping the monitor but including windows.

First consider this cyberpower system for 779$ it has the works including windows10 and an rx580 4GB

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522168638&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36%3A77000-85000&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Now for my build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor | $234.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler | $34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Patriot - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $54.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card | $148.98 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.00 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $39.49 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $876.01
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $821.01
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 12:45 EDT-0400 |

The custom PC has a worse video card because video cards are extremely overpriced at the moment. You get a better processor which will definitely help with light content creation. Cities Skylines will be happy with just a 1050 but if you want to play major releases at high settings that video card wont cut it. For VR your going to want a 1060 6GB or RX580 8GB or better but those are very high cost outside of prebuilts.

Depends on the price range your looking for and what type of machine; high-end intense graphics, mid-range for just playing MMO's or MoBA's or low-end for mainly movies, music, email and office duties.

Mid-range you usually can find quite a bit of decent options. High-end is were you REALLY need to watch the specs for each "Sale" cause they often like to short something essential in order to offer such a good "deal". For example, they amount of memory, for High-end you really need at least 16 gigs to have a solid build but a lot of "Deals" will leave you with ONLY 8 gigs installed and thus cutting the price that way and calling it a "Deal".

Here's a High-end Deal that looks real nice: https://smile.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_2?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-2&keywords=desktop+computers

and.. Here's a Mid-range Deal that's pretty good too! - https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop+computers



Hope this helps and happy hunting!

I found these 2, but for the life of me I couldn't find one with 16GB or RAM.

$710 - CYBERPOWERPC - i5-9400F, B360, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 2400), 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi

$660 - SkyTech - Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 3000), 500G SSD, WiFi

I'm leaning towards the Ryzen pc. I like the faster memory, and while it has less storage, I personally would prefer the larger 500GB SSD over an 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo.

One thing to also keep in mind is that it is a single stick of memory. Having 8GB of RAM in dual channel (2 sticks that are 4GB each) is better than single channel (1 stick that is 8GB), but having a single 8GB stick means that in the future, if you do decide to upgrade to 16GB, you will be able to run the most ideal RAM setup for gaming (2 sticks that are 8GB each)

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For reference:

1 stick of RAM that is 8GB 3000 would cost around $30-40. It's a large margin cause ideally you want to buy the same model that is in your current rig so they match. While it isn't required, running RAM at the same speed and latency (and same DRAM cache modules) is ideal.

1-2TB HDDs are around $30-50

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Both of these are also very easy to install.

Hey guys, I built my pc a few years ago but i am now in college and am unable to ship it here. I am about to buy a mid tier prebuilt pc + peripherals for my dorm room. I just want to make sure everything is compatible and i have everything i need, i dont want to realize that i am missing some important cable or something is not compatible. Links below!

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Ive already done a fair bit of research so i think im good to go, but just wanted to get some other opinions! FYI I am pretty set on buying everything from amazon. Thanks guys!

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Elite is complicated for sure. I personally also believe it should only be played with a HOTAS in VR. And it's not a game for everyone. Watch some clips in YouTube if it sounds like a game you'd be interested in. Once you start playing, it's not bad. Myself and several friends got the hang in about a day (Controls, movement, landing, etc) with only one friend to this day only ever manually having been able to land his ship a single time before giving up on the game.

Also, here's a link to the pc I own. I have yet to upgrade it and have no frame rate issues running ED in ultra VR graphics. Feel free to compare to your own build.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz Processor, 8GB DDR4 DRAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Lnj4DbNAFFP57

Roughly $500? I'd recommend keeping an eye on this.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w

Right now it says $638 for used, but new refurbished deals show up on it every now and then. A few weeks ago it was refurbished for $500, and it was again for a couple days for $502 when I bought it. The only thing it's missing is a SSD, which I popped in my old one, or you can buy one for pretty cheap.

As for how good it runs GW2? It looks like I'm able to record in 1920x1080p in raids at medium settings at a steady 60+fps. So I'd recommend keeping an eye on that page, or head over to /r/buildapcsales where pretty good deals get posted. Keep an eye out for deals on computers with similar specs, for a similar price. They sell out within a day though usually, so keep at it

Ok, so the most upvoted comment is definitely really useful. But this is a 719.99 PC which will run most games at ultra 60fps at 1080p. Unfortunately, i have the old version of this pc, but this one is an upgraded version and is much better than mine. Its a pre-built, but the value is a lot cheaper than you building the pc yourself.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A3 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 802.11AC WIFI, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6W5HzbJNSFQ41

Please consider taking a look at it. You definitely wont be disappointed with it.

Alrighty. Are you comfortable with building your own? I know you said you have never built before, but I built mine only 3 days after my 15th birthday in a total of an hour and a half. No problems at all and I got a much better deal. Of course, prices have gone up, so there won't be as much of a benefit, but still substantial.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $142.76 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $66.09 @ Amazon
Memory | Patriot - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $43.21 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card | $374.98 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor | Acer - G226HQLBbd 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $80.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $905.00
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-05 12:11 EDT-0400 |

Here's this. It's just a tad over budget, and has no SSD, but it'll perform very well. The case has customizable lights, but you can disable that easily.

Alternatively, this prebuilt is a pretty okay deal. It only has the 3 GB version of the GTX 1060, but it'll still work fine to play games. Not nearly as good as the part list I just put together with your budget (assumed you already have a keyboard and mouse).

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522944403&sr=1-2&keywords=i5+7400+gtx+1060+3gb&dpID=41wxHZqVs2L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Yes it will. Load times will be long without a SSD but the game will run well all other times and its super easy to add a SSD later if loading drives you nutty. The CPU, its actually quite OK, functionally equivalent to a 6400 (just different integrated graphics, which you wont use).

This may be more balanced for total war https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yGE0xb5JXPYWC but I don't know your monitor resolution you will be playing at.

While building a PC is fun for some of us I don't think the gained value (not much usually) is worth the extra effort/stress for most people.

I'd say that's a decent starter system but definitely not for that hefty price tag. Ever consider building a system yourself? Would cost you a fair bit less for potentially better parts also.

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I don't live in America but this seems more like it, if anyone could correct me or find something better? :)

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Lookup some videos on what you should look for in gaming pcs man. Honestly at such a low budget buying a console might be best. Idk if I can find a good prebuilt in that range but something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071ZZF7FY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517812388&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dell+gaming+tower&dpPl=1&dpID=41PlVF-rpiL&ref=plSrch is a bit overbudget but a good sweetspot for price to performance but I'm not an expert so I'm sure someone else could probably find better deals in terms of price to performance I can pretty much guarantee that an inspiron with onboard graphics won't do it though.

Just bought a Rift, what's a good PC under 1k? Leaning towards this Cyberpower one but I feel like building one of the recommended ones is better and cheaper? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

This pc looks pretty good, it has a deepcool cpu cooler, while not the best in the universe is far better than the intel stock cooler they usually put in prebuilts.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B00IMOND82


This is my mouse, it's pretty awesome
It'll probably fit you well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019OB663A/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1510113202&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Logitech%2Bg502&dpPl=1&dpID=41xxUrMt7nL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1



Here's a really good keyboard if you don't have one already


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019O8YZ4A/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1510113382&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Red+dragon+vara&dpPl=1&dpID=41CU8eiwCwL&ref=plSrch

Should I buy a prebuilt? And if so, how is Cyberpower vs iBuyPower? I know I want a 2070 and a 2700 but I am honestly unsure if I should build my own. I am looking at getting one of these two:

CyberPower PC

iBuyPower

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I want to know if their build quality is good and which one does a better job at proving actual support (I remember LTT did a video about the different prebuilt companies but I am more concerned in prompt service, like how they were able to resolve your actual hardware problems, i.e. bad fan or bad gpu etc.)

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I looked similar stuff/same stuff (the things I could find closest to) for the iBuyPower build on PCPartPicker and it basically came to about 100 bucks cheaper, without the OS and that is still me having to put everything together. I honestly don't mind building a PC but the idea of saving all my time and just spending a little more money is very very alluring. Any suggestions? Am I being a fool by even thinking about doing this, I know it's not a very PCMR thing to buy prebuilts but the price seems right and the idea of building it sounds like it isn't worth it just to save like 100-200 bucks.

Thanks for the kind words.

With the caveats that I haven't gone through Prime Day in detail and that we don't really know how Destiny 2 will run, I'll give some recommendations that I'd give to my friends. I'm assuming you want to game at 1080p and that you already have a monitor to do so.

This CyberPower deal seems to be pretty good. You'd have a hard-time DIYing one at that price. The RX 480 would be better if it were 8 GB than 4 GB, but at 1080p it's not that big of a deal.

Similar type of deal for this other CyberPower prebuilt. In general, we'd rank it as a 1080p60 system. The CPU is going to hold up much longer, and the GPU is another 4 GB, but it's the slightly better RX 580 vs the RX 480 in the other one. The GPU will be what ultimately holds you back, but assuming Destiny 2 is anything like the other 2017 releases, it should be able to handle it.

To get technical, both the RX 580 and 480 GPUs average just below 60 fps in Watch Dogs 2 at Very High settings (what we'd call an Open World game). WD2 is one of the most demanding games out there, due to the huge environments and large amount of simulation required. I'm skeptical Destiny 2 will be as demanding at Watch Dogs 2. If it performs more like a FPS than an Open World game, it's going to be hitting well above 60 - like 80-100+ fps based on the way those cards handle pure FPS games. I don't know definitively for Destiny 2, but I'd recommend either as a 1080p60 rig.

the first link isn't bad, but don't get the second link. The fx processors are old tech and not worth investing in. Stick with ryzen or intel processors.

this one has a better cpu and better gpu for the same price

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537987331&sr=1-3&keywords=desktop+ryzen+5

also, you should definitely get an SSD. Either purchase one separately and install windows 10 onto it, or buy a prebuilt that already has one.


this cpu is similar to the ryzen 5 1400, but also has 16gb of RAM and an SSD. It has less graphical power, but is still plenty good for running league of legends. Note -- it's a very small pc.

https://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Radeon-3000MHz-Windows-Computer/dp/B07665SPGW/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537987476&sr=1-11&keywords=desktop+ryzen+5+16gb+ram

similar to the above, but in a larger enclosure and only 8gb RAM. Would be easier to swap out parts in the future, given the larger case.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Pro-Gaming-Desktop-PC/dp/B07CLMX2WP/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1537987035&sr=8-6&keywords=desktop+ryzen+2400g

league of legends on vega 11 (ryzen 5 2400g CPUs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS4gmaOApT0

There are some good deals on PCs with Windows OS with it.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VwV.BbGJW72MV

This seems to be a pretty decent machine. And you can always do simple upgrades like more memory pretty easily. It comes with a good graphics card that should be able to handle any game at decent settings. It has windows 10, a keyboard, and mouse. You said he has a monitor so that should be about everything. Just need a desk to set him up at and a comfy chair. And headphones or a speaker.

At the moment, Prebuilt computers are actually the most economic way to go at the moment because of the whole cryptocurrency mining thing going on atm. But that may change in a year.

Gaming laptops are going to be a lot more than 500 dollars, but a decent computer with the capabilities to play games shouldn't be much more than 500.

I don't know how much you need to run Sims 4 but this computer should play most games fairly well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/?coliid=I351BA7O2V2EM1&colid=H4JY95NTZX2D&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

A similarly specced computer. You could skimp on some things but I think a case should be pleasing to look at. As you can see a lot of the savings is in windows being included.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | Intel - Core i5-7400 3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $177.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $49.90 @ OutletPC
Memory | Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $82.85 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GT OC Video Card | $274.88 @ OutletPC
Case | NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.95 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $896.84
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $846.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-04 22:51 EST-0500 |

I am considering building my own PC, but I am a novice. I just saw this system on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HNBLHAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Will that be sufficient to play games such as CS:GO, Black Ops 3, and other FPS games at 1080p on high settings? I am coming from Xbox One to PC, so even if I have to play on medium settings to maintain 60fps (60hz refresh rate on monitor) it will still be a significant improvement and I will be happy. The system linked is at the very limit of my budget. I would need a copy of Windows 10, a keyboard and mouse if I were to build a system myself.

For $720, is that system beatable if I build it myself and use the same or comparable parts?

From the pre-built I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RHBLV7F?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Came with one 8gb stick from Ballistix, got it when it was 660 (so pretty good deal for me along with the dell 24in monitor that's been here) I've been playing mostly apex tbh lol but damn not gonna lie it looks alot better on my pc then it does my ps4. (Have it at max settings and get around 100 fps) Going to mostly be playing light games like Apex and streaming going to stay with other triple A titles on console so I haven't pushed it to it's max, however these two PC's might go harder considering they have better specs and can be pushed more. I just wanted peeps to know that the company is pretty decent with builds if you wanna buy a pre-built or go to their website and pick parts so they can build it how you want (considered that first)

Yea, sadly. For example, this pc is about the equivalent of this, for $200 less.

Add on the necessary monitor, and it's only $195 more, amounting to around $985.

Given you want to upgrade it a bit, maybe some more ram, ssd and a 8GB RX 580. You get [this] (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynrsJ8) list of upgrades.

Add that to the original price, costs around $1700. But you can sell the RX 580 4GB or trade it on r/hardwareswap for at least $300, bringing it down on $1400.

But it's a hassle, and no guarantee anyone would buy the 4GB one. But if you were fine with the 4GB one, the round total would come to $1300.

So if you want value, go for pre-built. If you want flexibility, freedom of choice(this has a non-overclockable CPU with only 4cores and 4 threads) and the satisfaction as well as knowledge that you've chose the best parts you could for your budget and to your preference, you should build it on your own.

hp 8300

Specs are

HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port (Certified Refurbished)

It’s $185. I’m not really trying to spend more than $250.

I just want something that I can use for Apple Music, do some excel spreadsheets, basic things. Not really for gaming what so ever. Just everyday tasks when I don’t want to use my lap top.(which is 5+ years old) i3 2gb ram, 500gb storage. I just use it as a notebook at work. Watch Netflix go on the internet.

Already have a dB power keyboard, and a basic laser mouse. My monitor is a asus mx279h. So I don’t need anything else.

Any thoughts or comments help thanks !

I forgot to add. I have a good friend that works for CDW and said he can get me a solid slate drive and ram for pretty cheap if needed

It's a fantastic deal in terms of parts value (the cpu alone is ~$350 CAD new). Especially considering it probably comes with a warranty and tech support. However as the other poster said it doesn't have a dedicated graphics card so you're not going to get much gaming out of it. Frankly that CPU is way more than anyone really needs even for gaming and that's where most of the cost is coming from. I think HP really dropped the ball on this one. I can't really see who their target customer is. Someone who needs a super fast CPU but is okay with being gimped by a slow hard drive? They would've been better off ditching that overpowered CPU for dedicated graphics or an SSD and I think you'd be better off doing the same.

This dell here is 100 cad more and has nearly identical specs with the exception of trading an overpowered CPU for a decent graphics card:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool Gaming PC Desktop, Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz, NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super 8GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4, 1TB PCI-E NVMe SSD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (SLC8260A2, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9W0ODb1TAE03Q


Good for its price .. because of 2070 graphics card. You may need to add additional storage as this only comes with 1TB ssd . I know how big those Premiere files can get

Wow I'd really appreciate that! Here's the amazon link for the desktop. I'm glad you found the video useful. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks.

That CPU doesn't look very good honestly, even a new cheap dual-core Intel Pentium seems to be around 25% better http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-FX-6300/3892vs1555

The 1050 Ti is quite similar to the GTX 960, maybe even a bit slower. But it has 4GB VRAM which isn't bad but there's also a 4GB version of the 960. I believe 1050 Ti is a bit cheaper than 960 though.

I think this one (found in similar items) would offer a thousand times more value for money and it's only a bit more expensive. The i5-7400 is much better than the FX-6300 and RX 480 4GB is pretty much equivalent to the GTX 1060 3GB.

edit: In other words the last one has much better GPU than the 960 or 1050 Ti and the CPU looks pretty decent too (although not as good as my i5-6600) and it's quite new (seems to be 2017).

Well, if you're going to get that style of prebuilt, I'd recommend this instead.

That said, there are some caveats with buying a prebuilt that you might want to think about before jumping in.

First, they don't specify details on parts. This may not matter much for the GPU (a GTX 1070 is a 1070 even if it's not the absolute best model), but when it comes to the PSU, it's more risk involved (big difference between 600 watt no-name that could blow up and take the rest of the parts with it and a 600 watt established brand known for quality).

Prebuilts also tend to cheap out on certain parts. The PSU is the big one, but many will also throw in any old motherboard that's compatible. Might not be an issue right away, but could cause trouble if you plan to overclock and the mobo doesn't support it or you try to add some extras later only to find the mobo can't handle them.

Finally, depending on where you get the prebuilt and who the manufacturer is, if you ever need support, you could have a rough time. Cyberpower and ibuypower tend to be cheap-ish (with sales, they can match building yourself), but reports of their support quality are mixed.

All of that said, if you decide to go with a prebuilt, this is the time of year to do it thanks to sales. Both what you linked and what I linked could be built for slightly cheaper (maybe $100-200, depending on the part models you pick), but not by much which is a pretty significant improvement over the usual $300+ mark-up prebuilts usually have.

You have an FX 4300 which would be overclockable with an aftermarket motherboard, but not with an OEM motherboard.

The cheap fix is to buy a new video card if you don't already have an Nvidia GTX 1050 or better. It won't operate nearly as well as it would with a more modern machine, but it'll be faster than the GT 1030 or RX 560 you likely already have and can be moved to a newer machine if you decide to do that.

An entirely new gaming computer would be best for gaming but the more expensive option.

This.

This.

If you're willing to spend $50 more, this is a good option.

This will give you similar performance, but has 8gb ram (will still be enough for gaming) and lacks an SSD (which is very nice to have)

This is also a solid machine for 1080p gaming.

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the 1st and 3rd prebuilt are the best value.

Appreciate the head's up! Honestly I don't know enough about computers to feel super comfortable purchasing something second hand. How does that compare to this deal on Amazon?

Tilt Brush isn't especially demanding so any min-spec VR system (AMD FX and RX470 is IMO may actually be pushing the bottom end there, but I'd guess would be fine if it's just for Tilt Brush) but you'll also need to add $200 for Touch Controllers. I'll also add that (having both a Vive and Rift) that the Vive is still better for room-scale setups (better 360 tracking w/ Lighthouse, longer cable for moving around) and in the summer, will allow a $250 wireless upgrade path, although to balance that off the Rift has Quill and Medium as platform exclusives (if we're talking about art tools).

If you go w/ the Rift, then I think that system is about the cheapest you could expect to go w/o scrounging together parts. (Total cost $1200 w/ the Touch controllers.)

If you decided to go w/ a Vive, this is a better specced system for about $520 as a refurb (so $1300 w/ a new Vive): https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/

If you're really budget constrained, I'm sure you can find a VR headset on the cheap from someone who bought one but doesn't really use it (I see the average completed price listings for used Vives at $500-600 for example, a few hundred dollars cheaper than new). You should be able to buy a relatively modern CPU system (like an i5-3xxx or newer) for pretty cheap and add a VR capable GPU either an RX 480, or GTX 1060 for about $200.

None sorry. Compare the specs for those games and it might give you a better idea.

This is the PC I bought a few months back.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_4g7SBbBWMN30Y
All I upgraded was ram (for non-gaming stuff), added SSD (huge improvement, totally worth money) and new PSU (cheap off-brand one it came with made me nervous).
You could read through reviews on that PC to get a ball park idea of what your build would be like.

Best of luck!

I don't know what followliker does, but if it's a program, you might have trouble running it on a NAS but I might be wrong.
If you're ok with a refurbished PC, an i5 desktop with windows 10 license can be had for ~$220 on amazon. It should be plenty powerful enough to run Plex, serve files, run backups, Xbox media center, some light gaming, social media automation software, etc.
Couple it with a wireless touchpad/keyboard + a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, the PC can be hooked up directly to your PC and serve as a home-media PC, so plex would only be used for streaming to your mac or portable devices.
Sharing a folder on the PC and accessing it with mac over home network is trivial. PC only has about 500GB though, and external USB HD would be required to expand capacity. (The refurb PC is a small form factor, and probably won't have extra drive bays for storage) And it uses more power than a NAS. 24/7 use might also be an issue, but for that, NAS or server would be required.
I have an i7 workstation tower I run like that - it's not constantly used, but it's almost always on. Been running fine for years - I would just make sure it's not inside a cabinet for ventilation. The whole set up can be had for less than ~$300 (without the USB HDs)
A good backup system always includes off-site (ie cloud backup) anyway. I would suggest looking into Amazon Cloud Drive for that.

It's probably the worst time to build a PC at the moment. Graphic card prices are really high due to cryptocurrency mining. RAM prices are also really high due to DDR4 memory being used in newer phones and possible competitor price fixing.

I built my PC in late 2016. I bought my 1060 6GB GPU on Amazon for $250. It now retails for $400-500. I bought 16 GB DDR4 RAM for $75 on NewEgg. It's now $150. I was able to build my PC for around $800, but with the increase in prices nowadays it would easily go over $1,000.

Graphic card price trends for a few cards for example.

At the moment it's cheaper to buy a prebuilt. You can find some decent hardware for a good price if you can't find any good deals on GPUs or RAM. Something like this would be good. You could also check used hardware at /r/hardwareswap for lower prices.

Otherwise you could wait it out until the prices drop back to normal levels.

If you can in the future though, look into getting a 144hz monitor. If your graphics card is powerful enough to reach those high frames, the monitor will refresh twice as much compared to a 60hz monitor. It makes the game feel super smooth when you're playing.

The subreddit I mentioned can help you more, this subreddit is more focused on building a pc. That being said, this pc has a superior gpu and a good cpu


https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=GXiVR8060A7&qid=1558237381&s=gateway&sr=8-4



All I did was go into amazon and search gaming pc and that’s like the second thing that came up. r/suggestapc will help you more

I’m not going to question why you won’t build one yourself because honestly it’s a lot cheaper and you can get better specs. Sorry for the vent, but any who! Here you go. It’s pretty decent and I can’t say it’s future proof, but it’ll play a lot of games without any issues.

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wbQnDbRWKR0Q8

Building a PC takes few hours max. For part selection use the totally awesome VR ready PC guide. This would be the most cost efficient way to get a PC.

If you want a pre-build, check PCs at $700 range with at least Ryzen 2600 or i5-9400F CPU and Gtx1060 or Rx580 GPU (preferably something higher).
This one looks pretty good: Link.

Well, I buy from Amazon so you deal directly with Amazon's policies (which are great). And Cyberpowerpc model that I bought has great reviews (although mine is the late 2016 model). I haven't had any ussue and love it. But because this computer was my entry into VR, I've now upgraded to a ssd and GTX 1080ti ftw3 (b4 the price inflation) to really push that VR angle.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_epENAb1CF38PG

If Amazon doesn't work for you then I'd consider Costco. All their computers come standard with 2 year service warranties and a 90 days return window. This policy applies to all brands they sell (from Cyberpowerpc, ASUS, Dell, hp Alienware).

Costco awesomeness story:

Seriously Costco is awesome when it comes to their customers and backing their products. Here's a true story that happened to me. I bought an early gen LCD Sony TV. After about 4 years it developed a strange blue and yellow color to it's display, just looked terrible. There were class actions against Sony for this issue so I called Sony to see what they'd do. While Sony didn't admit fault, they said they give me 1/2 off a new Tv, but I needed the receipt. Went to Costco to get my copy of my receipt and I told them why i was doing it. Not only did Costco give me a brand spanking new Sony 60 inch led tv that day that I walked out with, but it was nicer than the tv Sony themselves was offering. Ever since then I've freaking loved Costco.

It's not really hard if you are handy. I followed a you tube build based on the case I used, a cooler master elite 130. People on r/buildapc are very helpful. Another great choice is buying a decent computer and upgrading. There is an i5 acer act 780 refurbished for 370 on newegg.com or brand new for 400 on amazon.com that can take a smaller gtx 1050 ti.
Video on how to do so. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yXkL5GZgTnU
The evga gtx 1050ti is on sale for 140 on amazon right now as well. https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Support-04G-P4-6253-KR/dp/B01MF7EQJZ/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1492185554&sr=1-1&keywords=1050+ti
This is the PC and it's quite a good deal IMO.
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481359319&sr=1-5&linkCode=sl1&tag=tecdea0f-20&linkId=5626d92dcf87c228314bc9376299f738

Just make sure to unplug the PC and touch the power supply to ground yourself to the PC before touching any internals.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool Gaming PC Desktop, Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6GHz, NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super 8GB Graphics, 16GB DDR4, 1TB PCI-E NVMe SSD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (SLC8260A2, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_41yHDbEJNN41Q

I don’t know much about specs but it’s a pretty good gaming laptop 8gb ram etc but I just got this pc —> https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA1394A-Gaming-GeForce/dp/B07GG62872/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr2_1?keywords=CyberPowerPC+-+Gaming+Desktop+-+AMD+Ryzen+7+2700X+-+16GB+Memory+-+NVIDIA+RTX+2070+8GB+-+2TB+HDD+%2B+240GB+SSD&qid=1563598470&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr2



I would like to play zero cailber, gorn, blade and sorcery,



Feel cool playing games


The fact that it just doesn’t work I’ve probably watched over 200 videos on tutorials that all didn’t work I’m looking for something that doesn’t have problems setting up




At least 4000$



The pc I just got 8

Generally speaking, yes, it is better to go custom and pick everything out yourself. You save money, know everything thats going in your system, and have knowledge and experience of how a pc works. All this past week i've been in the process of figuring parts for my build as well. However, I did come across this really nice/affordable pre-built PC that can easily be confused with a custom build. If i wasn't already commited to building my PC
I would go for that one easy. Check it out Here and Here.

If you still want to custom build i recommend reading through the PC MasterRace builds page and start from there.

Lastly, I'll link my own builds that im considering. They're around the same price range you mentioned. Intel i5-7500 // AMD Ryzen 1500X

Great! This Acer Aspire TC would be a great pick for you.. It has a powerful 6th Generation Intel Core i5-6400 processor, 8 GB RAM and a massive 2 TB HDD... This will last you for several years in terms of the performance specs and will do an excellent job in stock trading.

I would loooove to play BF1. I loved the beta and would love to play the full version :)
System:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_sbgpyb9QP8509

The significant savings is usually predicated on someone already having a mouse, keyboard, and copy of windows to use.

With current RAM prices and the crypto fueled run on graphics cards, the savings aren’t even all that great nowadays.

I helped buy one of my nephews this prebuilt for Christmas and he has been happy with it.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4qTMAbX5P25CW

I would get something like this, and add another 8 gigs of RAM in and an SSD. RX 580 is similar to a GTX 1060, and the i5-7400 should do great in most if not all games, the exclusions being something like AC Origins, The Division, other CPU heavy games.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $83.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
Other | CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready | $779.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $913.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-06 16:17 EST-0500 |

Here's 2 you can choose:

Skytech

Cyberpower

Skytech is Ryzen + 1050 Ti and Cyber is Intel + RX 580 4G. In terms of performance wise, Cyber will be better because 580 4G > 1050 Ti, but of course, slightly more expensive.

Overall internal parts use, Skytech > cyber because Skytech uses better power supply, memory, and etc.

Both can play almost any games in the market at 1080p high to ultra setting. Both system will be able to handle Minecraft for sure.

You can also wait till BF/CM which is next month, I'm sure you can pick one of these PC up for $50-$100 less.

I second this. Upgrading to a sub-$200 graphics card is the most cost effective way to go about this. FX 8350 won't be too much better than the i5 2300, and a $65 Pentium G4560 is almost a side-grade; no meaningful improvement.
If the friend REALLY wants new, consider this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=11413L9RV1HZK&coliid=I22HTJPFBR3522
a $720 pre-built form CyberpowerPC. Modern mid-range hardware that should outperform any aforementioned builds. If friend wants to build new: wait for AMD's new budget CPUs and go from there.

Wondering what people think about this, especially in relation to this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075VSBNQZ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Obviously the second one is a significantly more powerful machine, and probably even a decently better savings over this one, in terms of savings per part, but this seems like the real winner in terms of value per dollar. It's 400 bucks cheaper with only slightly downgraded parts overall, yeah? Or is the difference between the CPU/GPU on the two machines REALLY enough to justify the extra 400 bucks?

Here's one that's a couple of bucks less, but far superior than the Dell. Great PC. Highly recommend this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520562725&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

Not sure why they'd throw a 9900K with a 2070... i mean the price isnt God awful... but if you want to save some money I'd go with THIS ONE... quite a bit cheaper and still has a 2070... will fare just fine for the greater majority of things.

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Edit: the one thing that I'd be careful with on this one is the RAM that it comes with... seems to come with 2400mhz ram... not sure how much you know about RYZEN but RAM speed matters a lot more for them compared to Intel... If you go for this computer... I'd probably take the ram out and sell it and throw in something like this. The processor will run MUCH better with that ram and youll probably only have to spend about $40-$50 more after you sell the ram that the computer comes with

Thank you so much for the help! I also saw this PC on amazon, any thoughts on this, thanks!

Also i am not absolutely sure on getting a dual monitor, when i looked around people said this is a good one. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you.

Also, if you have any keyboard or mouse you can recommend that would be great.

Gotta love how literally everyone on here will just tell you to build it and not answer your question.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Hg9iDbDP0N60M

This is gonna be the best you'll get for the price pre-built. All it really needs is an SSD and maybe swap out the 4gb vram model for an 8gb. Anything better and you'll have to pay more.

I got this exact model and it works fantastic, you can upgrade it substantially too (PSU, GPU, SSD)

Very cool! Thank you so much, would I be better off building vs buying complete at the same price point. Like would the 600 dollar build you put together be better than something like this?

[Ryzen & GTX 1050 Ti Edition] SkyTech ArchAngel Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_J1f.Bb303ST2K

Honestly, you might as well just buy a desktop and an ultraportable laptop. Here's a decent option if you don't want to build a PC yourself:

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504341020&sr=1-2&keywords=1070

With the GTX 1070, you'll be able to handle pretty much any game at 1080p at 100+ FPS. Invest the rest of your money into a decent ultraportable like a UX330UA or something so you have something that's portable and won't run out of battery before you get to class. Unless you really need something portable and powerful, a desktop + laptop combo will be better 9/10 times.

another thing you could get is a prebuilt which might seem like a terrible idea but its well priced

i5 7400 -170$ on amazon

cpu cooler not stated but from reviews is a cheapo and im guessing is like 25$ (idk how expensive coolers get so i might be wrong)

B250M-A motherboard which is 75$

8 gigs of ram so 75$

1tb hard drive 50$

rx 580 260$

cant find the case but i estimate 30$

psu 35$

windows 10 home 100$

no anti virus pre-installed

that totals to 900$ and other ppl who reviewed have said that if you where to build it yourself it would cost from 850$ to 1000$
cyberpower probs buys win 10 keys on a discount and probs the cpu/gpu
id suggest replacing the fans and psu but you would still save money and honestly you dont need a 3.5gz cpu unless your gonna be editing videos etc

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

(btw i dont know how to put in the partpicker chart but it doesn't have all the parts anyway)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They make this same pc but with a gtx 1060 as well which is basically the same as the rx580 but it cost a little more an doesn’t run as hot. But this is exactly what I owned and still have all the parts to. Not every game will run on max settings but you can definitely run games on good settings an get good frames

EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
This is the gtx1060 also includes ssd if you wanna spend a little more

16 Gigs of memory and a R7 1700 CPU is very impressive for a Pre-Bulit under 1000. However, the Rx 550 is really underwhelming for an $800 PC. I’d say go for it if you don’t run too many heavy games, but if you do, here’s a Pre-Built on Amazon that would perform much better in most games for the same price in exchange for less Ram: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1526083787&sr=1-1&keywords=Gaming+PC (Though let me go ahead and say, building a PC is much better value than either of these.)

Edit: Here is the comparison between the RX 580 and the RX 550: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-AMD-RX-550/3923vs3925

I'm planning on getting a new PC for my parents and have parts picked out, but saw some comments from people saying that it's good to just buy prefab instead and slap my own SSD into it in that situation. Is this a viable option? I'm especially eyeing this one: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/

They don't really do anything intensive on the computer, just internet browsing, file storage, text editing, etc. Going with that one will save about $100 on what I was planning on building, but I haven't had a prefab pc for I'm not sure how many years. I'm a little nervous to grab something like that compared to something I built myself. What would you guys recommend?

Congrats on your profits and thanks for the giveaway! A new desktop computer from cyberpowerpc would be nice . Thank you!

I'm looking to build a middle of the road system that is a step above current gaming systems. I am not a graphics nut but want to do modern games at 1080 and have at least five years before I need to upgrade anything. I would like to run dual monitors, one for games and the other for podcasts/youtube while I play.

Games I enjoy are strategy/roguelikes - so the most demanding games will probably be starcraft and civ 6
I am looking at different builds towards the low end and it seems I won't save anything - in fact it will cost more - if I build.

My current plan is to buy this tower from Amazon with an i5 and add a gtx 1050 TI putting me in the ballpark of 550-600 when all is said and done.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1INXJK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Looking to build a similar system with an i3 on my own would run 600-650 after the OS, the only downgrades I see are the power supply. Am I missing something? I've built plenty of PC's in the past so putting it together on my own doesn't hold value - I just want the best bang for my buck.
Thank you!

I'm not so bright when it comes to building PC's, so my first one I'm going for is going to be a pre-built PC. I've heard nothing but great things for this rig Here . It's pretty cheap for a good system and has plenty of room for upgrading in the near future. I'm going to primarily play on PS4 with friends, but I MUST try this game on PC.

Building a gaming PC you will always get better performance per dollar than a pre built, and is much easier than most people think. However here are a few options if you still want a prebuilt...

This has a better graphics card https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BV33X5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ygDvCbQ9KGGZW

Better price with similar performance https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jiDvCbR2JY8RF

Another option https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HWQFHS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zjDvCbY7GSNCF

A lot of prebuilts come with 8gb of RAM moving up to 16 is a very easy DIY upgrade.

Sorry if this is a bad place to ask this but I'm not necessarily looking for a PC to build but a PC to get and at a reasonable price. I'm not looking for anything that runs high end games, mostly something that can run games like Fallout New Vegas or Overwatch pretty well. I found [this PC] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mislDb09AVFNY) on sale, would it be a good purchase?

This is a pretty good deal:

https://slickdeals.net/f/11641671-dell-inspiron-5675-desktop-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-ddr4-1tb-hdd-rx-570-4gb-580-after-100-sd-rebate-free-s-h?src=catpagev2

If you want slightly better performance and a good warranty deal then this is an alright system:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1527733497&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop&refinements=p_36%3A50000-85000

or

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B077S27YLP&pd_rd_r=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&pd_rd_w=rFvwd&pd_rd_wg=rg5xY&psc=1&refRID=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&dpID=318W8FLYRhL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR

This PC has quite the good reviews on Amazon. It's actually a great value as building your own using the same parts would cost a bit more than the $699.99 that PC costs. Oh and it's VR ready if you ever decide to try that out!

Also, if you have amazon prime, you can get two day shipping and have it delivered directly to your brother.

That is a decent build, however if you would consider working through a prebuilt there is much greater value:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=twister_B06VWTGG3V?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Add the same 1060 you had before and another 8gb (2x4) kit, and you have a much stronger machine.

Note: this system includes keyboard, mouse, and windows which would still be additional on top of your build. This prebuilt is just a great value

If you absolutely MUST buy a prebuilt, some prebuilts do have value. Strictly because aftermarket parts are so expensive right now. 16GB of DDR4 is ~$165+ and a 1080Ti is ~$1,000+. SSDs are the only thing going down in price.


CyberpowerPC :
i7-8700k, 1080Ti 11GB, 16GB DDR4, 240GB SSD - $2,000.


Edit: I would still recommend you build your own PC. It’s so much more rewarding to build something personal and/or custom and then fine tune it to your liking. More so than simply plug and play.

Very good comment with information but to save money and get a warranty plus better gpu i would recommend this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MR7lybF097FMG

Ok this guy is better and cheaper than anything you have linked to me. Honestly I can't imagine they can really make a good profit off of this. But I mean it when I say my offer still stands recording a video for you.

I may have to use the thing for a few months, maybe save up for a bit and then swap to a better monitor. I want to aim for something like 144hz, 1440p, IPS, G-Sync. I think I may be looking at the 500-600 range for something like that. In theory I could return the monitor to cut 280 off the price but I really don't have the extra cash laying around right now, and I saw nothing in the 250-300 range that had all those. I could have missed it, of course. Honestly it might have been better to just keep using my old 60hz monitor, I don't really have any games I currently play that need a new monitor until Borderlands 3 comes out but. I'm not even sure I need that powerful a monitor, I don't play PvP games. I just know that my old one had serious problems with anything even remotely dark, so much so that I could be playing cave or night areas practically blind and no setting on the monitor ever seemed to help.

I bought a new premade with the Prime Day sale, so it wasn't just a GPU upgrade. This one, in case you would like a reference: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GG62872/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To play wow and Diablo 3 you definitely don't need a 1k budget. The Exterminator will suit your needs well plus you can add a SSD to it if you wish.

EDIT: Seems you were asking for a prebuilt and I linked just the parts. Whups. Anyway this is not a bad choice for a prebuilt.

Hey there,

I bought this computer last year, and I'd like to buy some parts to enhance the performance. I'm really not tech savvy; would anybody have some general recommendations? It works well for most of what I play, but I feel I obviously have room for improvement, especially with how much empty space I have.

Thank you; hope this is the right place for this question.

Better value than the new budget king on Amazon, IMO:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=zg_bs_565098_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=SHR300ZPN2MSQBMMKEDZ&th=1

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Lacks the WiFi, but it's worth it for a case and motherboard on a universal form factor, and for the additional case fans. Also Windows Home is installed on the SSD by default.

2300X lacks the hyperthreading, but it should be the better pure gaming CPU than the 2400G thanks to the extra cache, and higher turbo. I would expect it to run substantially cooler under load similar to the R3-1300X:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/639/AMD_Ryzen_3_2300X_vs_AMD_Ryzen_5_2400G.html

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=RX+580+DESKTOP&qid=1563593452&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Similar price, but infinitely better.

Still, I'd definitely suggest building your own. You'll save some money and get to choose exactly which parts you'll have in it without ridiculous markups.

mmm, i've never run into any issues personally with custom parts as long as i stayed with standard sized pc cases instead of all the strange SFF, USFF, and so on, i don't know though, maybe i've just been lucky, and this is with HP, lenovo, and Compaq (well, compaq before HP killed them off anyway) FYI, don't know about other brands

now as for the deal part, you can get an HP desktop with an i5-7400, a gtx 1060, and 8GB of ram for only $660, which is not only plenty of power to run any even somewhat well optimised game, but it's also enough power to run most VR games as well, i don't remember perfectly what pricing was like before all the bitcurrency mining pushed up gpu prices, but if it's close to what i'm thinking, then even if it wasn't for mining it'd still be a pretty good deal for a pre-built

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

Glad you're there to help out. If you go the PC route, this is Oculus certified and has many happy Vive users. I just got mine yesterday. The build is amazing. $720. CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A Gaming Desktop - Intel i5-6402P Quad Core 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, AMD RX 480 4GB, WI-Fi USB Adapter, Windows 10 Home https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_71KGyb5FWC0ZA

They're all the same to me. Ideally what you're looking for (if on a budget, I assume) is probably a machine with an i5/Ryzen 1400 and something like a 1050Ti or RX570 graphics card. Both of these would be modest beginner machines for happy gaming at 1080p 60FPS. This CyberPower PC is fairly well-balanced, although personally, I would prefer something with an SSD.

Watch out for stuff that's more like this: an i7 7700K paired with... Like an RX 550 or GTX 1050. This would be an example of a really unbalanced (and likely, extremely overpriced) build. Alternatively, they use old parts and pass them off as new. This example uses a very poor CPU. You can do much better for similar money, such as the above example.

for 350 the BB one is very okayy but for 350 bucks you arent going to find any prebuilt thats better.

If 350 is your upper limit i'd say build it yourself, however if you can afford a bit more this guy is a much better deal, but my honest opinion is to wait for cyber monday

I have been having issues with my case fans. I'm not sure the size of the fans but they are raidmax fans. They came with my pre built pc that I bought in 2016. I have had this issue for a while where they will stop spinning and in order for me to fix them I put sewing machine oil in them and the fix will last for ~3 days. I did get new ones from cyberpower but those ended up crapping out too. I want to buy some new case fans for my pc, fans that are reliable and that will last me a long time. They don't need to be RGB. I don't have a budget for case fans so I would like to purchase the best most reliable ones. Thanks to anyone that can help me. (This is a link to the pc I bought. I could not find any info on the size of the fans on there or in the manual so hopefully someone can tell just by looking at it.)

How much do I really need a GPU?

So I just got this PC and I was planning on putting in a gt 1030 but after looking at the games I want to play I’m not sure that a GPU upgrade is needed. All my friends are on Xbox One so I’m not planning on playing triple A games on PC. I made a list of some games I want to play on PC. Let me know what you think.

TF2
CS:GO
Hotline Miami
Hotline Miami 2
Absolver
Mother Russia Bleeds
Civ 6
Escape from Tarkov
Tooth and Tail
Papers Please
Door Kickers
The Modern Warfare Series

HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port (Certified Refurbished) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9g66Ab6BXHKBW

I would try to find something with an I5 or Ryzen 5 and a GTX 1050 or RX 580. That should future proof you for a while so you can upgrade your GPU down the road and not have to worry about anything else. Rocket league isn't particular demanding.

This seems like a good deal although I have never heard of the company: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102050

This seems like a good deal as well, more reputable brand: https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=lp_8588813011_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523319153&sr=1-1

Not knowing your budget, this is a fairly decent machine that is hard to build for the cost (i5/RX480)

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/

It should accomplish your goals at $720. I doubt you will find anything better at Bestbuy unless they are running something on cleareance. If you build I would recommend the r5 over the i5, but it is a decent machine and should accomplish your goals. It is a pretty decent gaming rig that will play most modern games at 60fps at high/ultra and should be able to do graphic design work without much issue. A r5 or i7 might do it a bit faster, but for most prebuilts they start jacking up the prices after that point.

For the budget minded, there appears to be an HP build, Ryzen 5 2400g, RX 580 4gb, 8gb RAM, 1tb HDD for $480. Pretty sure I'm jumping on that. Don't really plan on doing any intensive gaming, but would like to start dabbling.

I'm sure I would look to add a 120 or 240gb SSD and upgrade to a faster 16gb RAM down the road, but won't need to be immediate for me.

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-ZglDbSMZFNXY

Edit 2: I bought the HP, then tacked on a Crucial 8gb RAM stick for $25 on a lightning sale or whatever. Then paid $29 for Crucial 240gb SSD. So a total of $535 (plus tax) for that entire setup.

I know we like building here, but I was pushing a similarly specced build on pcpartspicker over $600, without windows or a k+m. I'll take the gamble on the HP board not being complete crap for that price.

My friend just bought a Cyberpower similar to this one: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

It's a little different from the one he got, but this one is under 500 pounds and should run games with some pretty nice framerates. He likes his PC, the only issue is the CPU is a tad bit on the weak side but it should still hold up.

Also, we live in America so I hope the PC is available in your region as well. Hope this helps.

EDIT: Also, Dan's PC is insane and has two Titan X GPUs, which are around $1000 EACH, so you're not getting anywhere close to that for 500 pounds.

oh ok thanks for the help tho but would you recommend something to buy to replace some parts of the pc it gonna buy CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_sD.iDbYKDRJEK

Alright okey. For PC I would go for something like this: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1529356747&sr=1-3&keywords=1080ti+8700k

The PC is very good and you will definitely have any problems with bad frames (always over 144) or lag. Don't know about the shipping to hawaii though..


For a monitor I would recommend the benq xl2411, which is a 144hz monitor. And when it comes to mouse and keyboard we all have different opinions, but I would recommend the Zowie EC2-A, and probably buy a keyboard like the logitech g pro. Hope this helped a little!

Well lets take a look

here is a okay system at amazon i5 7xxx, 1tb, 256 ssd, 8gb ram , rx 480. 800 ish bucks

here is a i5 6400 with 1tb drive, 8gb of ram and 1070 gtx also from amazon

With either of those I would get a better psu like a 520 watt plus SeaSonic and maybe upgrade some ram to 16gb also maybe get an ssd for one that doesn't have an ssd.

Also here is a parts list build to because why not.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor | $196.29 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $28.89 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver - Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste | $3.44 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard | $99.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $138.99 @ Newegg
Storage | SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $84.99 @ B&H
Storage | Toshiba - P300 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $61.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card | $269.89 @ B&H
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case | $47.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
Case Fan | BitFenix - BFF-BLF-14025B-RP 47.7 CFM 140mm Fan | $6.56 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $992.13
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-27 01:00 EDT-0400 |

So i found another offer, is this any better? (yes i know building myself is best option but I am working over the summer to save up for this so I wont have the time to assemble it even if I do save up enough) This one is cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077QDM2DP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Prebuilt's aren't necessarily a bad deal (right now), but you need to search a little (spend some time searching through /r/buildapcsales) and find one that's the best bang for your buck.

For example both of these prebuilts are big step ups GPU/RAM/SSD wise compared to the one you described and they're the same price:

#1: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-8700k-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-white-black/6092427.p?skuId=6092427
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#2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VSBNQZ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1OTKNJAHT2NPO&colid=36I2SBQHWEMP9&psc=1

SkyTech Blaze II seems to be the best one for eSport games on Amazon, it can also run modern AAA titles but it's really future-proof when it comes to eSports. It has a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1660 which are plenty for League of Legends, Overwatch and CS:GO etc. I'm going to buy it myself.

The GTX 1660 build is really good for the price especially that it's currently on discount for $679. Anything more powerful would be similar to this GTX 1070 build which is slightly above your budget.

i dont know shit about PCs. Ive gamed on consoles my whole life. that being said, i play fortnite everyday and want to make the switch to PC. My budget is 500-700. Like i said, i dont know anything about PCs so I don't know how to build one lol so maybe buying a whole PC is better for me. Anyone know how these stack up?

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https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1563200293&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Enthusiast-Computer-Desktop-AM010A/dp/B07645B962/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1563200293&s=gateway&sr=8-10

If you can go a bit over your budget, this is a pretty capable PC:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA4800A-Desktop-7200RPM/dp/B06Y5Z471S/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103302&sr=8-8&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

If not, this is pretty okay as well:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Trident-VR7RC-020US-Desktop-i5-7400/dp/B01NAP5T5V/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103366&sr=8-11&keywords=gtx+1070+pc


I would still highly recommend building your own, it's a fun process and you learn a lot about computers along the way, and save quite a bit of cash too. But these aren't half bad PCs for what they cost.

EDIT: This one is at the neck of your budget and pretty great as well - not as great as the $1200 one, the i5 here is probably bottlenecking the 1070, but this is still very, very fast: https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497103302&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

i guess it depends on where u get your parts.

but this pc has a rx 580 4gb and is 780$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=asc_df_B0747W15QL1521025200000?tag=INSERT_TAG_HERE&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B0747W15QL&linkCode=asn


this rx 580 4gb is 450$ alone

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZZ93FQ/ref=asc_df_B06XZZ93FQ1521630000000?tag=INSERT_TAG_HERE&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B06XZZ93FQ&linkCode=asn


so if u are truly getting similar prices then do that. just dont forget to get a bronze cert PSU n better MB

edit: well shortened links r not welcome so i put the original links

Most pros don't run on ultra, they run on low or medium (some even use 75% scaling).

The only necessity is 8gb RAM and a recent-ish i5 or better for CPU, i7 if you want to stream. Otherwise you'll bottleneck below 144fps no matter what card/settings. Obviously you'll also want a 144hz (or higher) monitor - 1080p for best framerate.

Other things: Nvidia cards are better in OW than comparable AMD (this has always been the case for Blizzard games). SSD will let you load in faster so you aren't the last one to hero pick (and IMO the difference for browsing and regular use is so huge that no one should not have a SSD anyway). Higher RAM speed does seem to help if you're going for 200+fps:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/558u1o/ive_just_proved_within_my_own_system_that_ram/

The cheapest "I can't be bothered" solution for 144+fps would be this prebuilt i5 desktop
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-UR61/dp/B01K1INXJK
plus a GTX 1050 or 1050ti (cheapest card of each model is fine). If you want to overclock or have a high-power GPU or whatever, go ahead and build... it's not necessary though.

In comparison, [this prebuilt] (https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482279603&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc) on Amazon is a nice deal. It seems to be a really good value, and also really popular.

> What is the upgradeability like for this PC? Will I be able to upgrade easily if needed in the future?

Prebuilts are hard to upgrade because the motherboard is tied to the windows installation. Also the mobo probably doesn't support overclocking, and of course the CPU doesn't, so you'll be replacing half the computer (and buying another windows 10 key) just to do anything with the CPU. I'd imagine the power supply is pretty potato, the fans are probably cheap loud things, and the 7200rpm hard drive is bleh in 2018.

If you're gonna get a prebuilt at least go with cyberpower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B077S27YLP since they use off the shelf parts that are pretty decent. You'll still have the motherboard and cpu and windows 10 key to have to repurchase again if you ever want to buy a cpu that supports overclocking. But these days prices are hella high on computer parts so i wouldn't blame you with going this route. Also would recommend buying a 120gb SSD and installing windows on that, leave the 1TB HDD for your games.

go with the cyberpower model with the rx580, i think you have to use the dvi port for 144hz but i'm not an expert in this stuff so get a second opinion. But yeah that monitor will work fine.

if you want to build, there's a ryzen setup in your price range. check the wiki.

Two years ago there were different PC offerings, you probably get more bang for your buck now. This is the one I actually got from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071NG75BW/

Other than the two front cooling fans going out already, it's been working fine for VR, with the big exception of VR games from Steam. For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to want to play nice with most of those, so I've all but stopped buying my VR games from them. But other than that, it's worked great. It plays everything I've gotten from the Oculus store (and most of what I've tried via Viveport) just fine.

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Desktop-G11CD-WB51-GeForce-processor/dp/B01K1JWCAK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505649428&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+1070+pc

Here's one with an i5 and a GTX 1070 :) You save ~$200.
I got a ryzen 1600 and GTX 1060 instead. :) I'm proud of it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RvW329

The gtx 1070’s are overpriced so if you wait you could save some money.

Also you could buy a prebuilt if you need the pc now because there cheaper than building your own with gpu prices.
Heres 2 prebuilt pc’s that are just as good as the one you could build


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1518025019&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51QKHRFF%2BSL&ref=plSrch

This comes with a key board and mouse so all you need is a monitor. This is the better than the prebuilt below. You will get 130+ fps on all games at 1080p


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075TMK25G/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1518025249&sr=1-7&refinements=p_n_graphics_type_browse-bin%3A14292273011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%7C2289793011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51Tw27x5Z9L&ref=plSrch

All you need is a monitor and your set. This is good for 1080p 60fps.

Looking for a gaming PC to buy while in college, I mainly play csgo and need to run it at above 144 fps. Are these good options? And if so, which is better? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mh_s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_9?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=GFMED2Y4Q04GAM0JJHDQ&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=afb47b96-3caa-4ebf-b6bb-b2e8ca24ba80&pf_rd_i=15201447011
And https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07CH38T1S/ref=mh_s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_8?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=GFMED2Y4Q04GAM0JJHDQ&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=afb47b96-3caa-4ebf-b6bb-b2e8ca24ba80&pf_rd_i=15201447011
Thank you!

It's saying "In stock" for me.

/u/homeboy221 if you can buy it that would be the best you can get for the money, buying the GPU seperate will probably be $400+ if you can even find one.

If you can't get that then the next best would probably be https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=pd_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B071ZZF7FY&pd_rd_r=WCJ9EETZSASX1ZR6HHV7&pd_rd_w=AT7Eo&pd_rd_wg=U5WZH&refRID=WCJ9EETZSASX1ZR6HHV7&th=1

The same one also looks to be on newegg for the same price https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G6D96059&cm_re=ryzen_5_1400-_-83-164-002-_-Product

if you really don't want to go over the $600 price then these are other options:

$540 - r5 1400+rx 560 (rx 560 is similar in performance to a gtx 1050): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G6D79371&cm_re=ryzen_5_1400-_-83-164-006-_-Product

$550 - i5-6400+gtx 960 (Similar to a gtx 1050 ti, but weaker than an rx 570, more likely than not it's a 2gb model) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221414

$550 - i5-7400+gtx 1050 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221437

If you don't mind turning down settings to keep 60fps@1920x1080 the latter three should be fine, but for only ~$100 more you can get a lot more GPU (rx 570 is around twice as powerful as an rx 560 while an rx 580 is a bit more powerful than an rx 570).

That's my point. Get one. Bungie gave everyone months to get a PC. You can easily find gaming PCs for $500-$600. If you want to play on a platform with better features, crossplay is giving you that opportunity.

eh, its not bad, especially if all you want to play is Skyrim. But for the money I would've expected a better graphics card.


If you have an extra $50 I'd check out this [CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black] (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?id=&skuId=5833100)


Reviewed here by Austin Evans [Is a $750 Gaming PC Worth It?] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfS5J3gGQa4)


There is also this on amazon for $699 [CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER)

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1564772400&s=gateway&sr=8-3

This is the best price if you don't care what it looks like.

You can get into PC gaming without spending a ton of money, and this leaves you with plenty of cash to spend on high quality peripherals, a comfortable chair, and a nice desk if necessary.

None of those are good options for what you want to do. This is what gaming looks like on an Nvidia 940MX. The GT 730 is not going to be much better, it's not a gaming card.

This prebuilt is decent for it's price and will do what you're asking however it is more expensive than the options you've listed.

Another option this refurbished HP 6300 and add in a GTX 1050 Ti yourself. That would get you where you want to be without going over budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card | $139.99 @ B&H
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $139.99
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-03 19:36 EST-0500 |

So I'm still talking to him to look into the prospect of having a friend of his build the PC if it comes to that. Thankfully, that means those builds above you linked can still be used, but it'd also need to have windows 10 installed, presumably without activating the product key, and I honestly don't know how to install windows without a CD.

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As for the pre-build computers, I did some digging online and found these two options from Amazon:

1. https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Quad-Core-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07CGBYBXM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550385041&sr=1-4&keywords=desktop+computer+i7&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A7322347011
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550385041&sr=1-11&keywords=desktop%2Bcomputer%2Bi7&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A7322347011&th=1
   
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   Although I'm sure there are things I'm missing in regards to those two. The first one looks good, minus seemingly not having a graphics card, but is it missing something important? The second one is obviously pretty damn expensive, but it looks like it has the features you mentioned for the CPU and video card. Thoughts?
   
   
   If those two look functional that'd mean 4 options on the table (Outside of him going to a nearby computer store and seeing what they have in stock of course). It's difficult trying to narrow it down, trying to get it functional without breaking the bank, so to speak. The Amazon ones don't come with monitors obviously, but other than that...? Hmm. I'm trying to weigh the risk/reward of having individual parts mailed in but risking his friend perhaps not building the PC right. Any broken part is just lost money assuming they don't have some sort of return policy.
   

You realize VCRs once cost over $1k right? As did blu-ray players and DVD players? Plasma TVs were over $10k at one point. There was a $2500 20" TV in 1948 (extreme example I know lol). Too bad none of those products ever caught on!

>The VFX1 cost over a thousand dollars (corrected).
>So does the Rift once you include all the third camera, extension cords and USB cards you need to make it run properly. PC VR is every much in the same price range as back then. And far far away from the promise of affordable VR that got the DK1 started.

Haha you must be buying some expensive ass extension cables. You know the 3rd camera comes with one right? Mine cost like $30. I spent more than that on mounting brackets and power cable extensions for my Vive. Even if your comparison were correct, $1000 in the '95 is closer to $1600 in 2017 money. You can get a VR ready PC and a Vive for less than that today.

You are right though, VR is too expensive for the average consumer now. The thing is, that's completely normal for new tech products. They all start off expensive and come down in price over time. It's far too early for the doom and gloom. Technology will progress and prices will come down. More companies will come in offering more varied products at different price points. You'll have an entry, mid, and enthusiast market just like you do with GPUs, etc. This is already starting to happen just slowly. We're only 9 months in ffs.

I'll also agree that mobile/standalone VR will probably remain the dominant force. It will probably remain cheaper and is definitely more convenient. I don't think home VR is going anywhere anytime soon any more than PC gaming is going to disappear though. At least until far in the future when (or if) there's no discernible difference between what can be done with a mobile device vs a full size device. There will always be those who want to experience the best of the best.

No, because for $200 less (at Amazon) you can buy a prebuilt with the same processor but an RX 580 instead of a 1050 Ti. For $150 you can upgrade the RAM to 16GB and grab a 120GB SSD to add if you wish. However I still would recommend building your own- watch some YouTube tutorials and such, it's really quite easy even for a first-time builder.

What are you thoughts on buying a rebuilt PC like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_84Xnzb718KQNA

It includes:

Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz

AMD RX 480 4GB

8GB DDR4 RAM

1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD

802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter

Win 10 Home

Would it be cheaper to buy a prebuilt machine and just upgrade it? What works best on a budget?

For Dolphin, CPU (processor) matters more than the GPU (graphics card). Ideally, you could get a desktop with a high end CPU and a low-mid end GPU for the best results for the price.

This should be ideal for your price range: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01MT0781S/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503301433&sr=1-8&keywords=gaming+desktop

This one is a little cheaper, can't vouch for AMD GPUs on Dolphin though: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A3-Desktop-Graphics-802-11AC/dp/B071NG75BW/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1503301433&sr=1-5&keywords=gaming+desktop

This is the pre-built PC I just bought. Yeah it's on the lower end but the RX580 is equivalent to, or slightly better than, the GTX 1060.

I've only used my Oculus a bit since it got delivered but I've had zero issues using this PC, and you can upgrade the graphics card pretty easily in the future.

I was someone that was not going to be spending $1000-1500 on a PC just for VR so when I saw this option I jumped on it.

It is but not nearly as significantly. Companies that make pre-builds likely have long-standing relationships with component sellers as they have bought thousands and thousands of parts for their builds. One year of crazy demand won't change their prices nearly as much as your average consumer just buying one card.

Here's one pre-built I found that's $780. They list a few components you can price check: just the card, RAM, CPU and HDD would run you $649 separately. Still need a power supply, operating system, tower, keyboard, mouse, motherboard, optical drive.. this build should save 200-300 dollars easy.

Definitely could vary though.. so I'd check the components on each pre-build to be sure.

I bought this desktop on Amazon and love it. I’ve upgraded the ram and am saving for other upgrades but it works well and runs most games on ultra. I play rocket league, mordhau, csgo and other games on ultra easily with this rig. Only $900 with taxes
Click here to see it on amazon

Thought I might put this out there.

It's over your budget, but comes prebuilt at a great price (sum of the parts is more than the computer), and runs most games comfortably at 1080p high detail.

I recommend this with a Free Sync monitor

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL

You will definitely get some good enjoyment out of this set up.

For 1k this build seems pretty overpriced

Check this out
CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC Desktop Intel i5-8400, 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD+1TB HDD, WiFi & Win10 Home 64-Bit, 4 RGB Fans w/ Remote, Upgrade Friendly https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VTeTBb75K9BW4
WAY better value imo

There is nothing you can build for $700 that will give you a better value than:

This

or

This

I know you want to build your own PC and all but, these are better values

iBUYPOWER Ultra Gaming PC Desktop AM900Z - Intel i7-7700K 4.2GHz, Geforce GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 240GB SSD, WIFI USB Adapter, Light Up Case, Win 10 Home, VR Ready, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_yLfEAbXYSSVDC

Here's one with a 7700k, keyboard and mouse for $150 cheaper than your original and better specs.

Yeah for that price, I guess you cant ask for too much performance. Id just want to make sure that you have right expectation for the level of performance you'll be getting. The CPU is worse than the ones that they put in a 200 dollar laptop.

I would personally get a cheap prebuilt something like this, as the CPU is miles better, and you can add like a LP card like rx 550/560 or gtx1030/1050/1050ti/1650 later if I want to game.

Well you will need a powerful CPU/GPU and a SSD, so I would recommend this ibuypower tower which has all three with great value for money.

It's $800 without a graphics card and then has options all the way up to $2k depending on the graphics card you have him put in it. I don't know anything about graphics cards and am not sure what I would actually need just to play a game like Overwatch. I've also been looking at this build on amazon that has a graphics card included and think it may be a better option. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550353914&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+computer#customerReviews

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Thanks for the reply.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=gaming+pc+2060&qid=1573721284&s=electronics&sr=1-4

Good value for $750. Could use more RAM eventually, but it's fine, and RAM is cheap. But I got the feeling you're not interested in something cheaper, but rather higher end.

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https://www.amazon.com/Centaurus-Andromeda-A7-Gaming-Computer/dp/B077J1S2LH/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=3600+rtx+2060&qid=1573722324&s=electronics&sr=1-5

This isn't too bad. Good hard drive space. Better GPU, but slightly lower end CPU than $999 one

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https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-i7-9700K-GeForce-SLC8260A2/dp/B07VFFCQ6L/ref=sr_1_1?crid=W5CHTJEG9HDS&keywords=2070+super+9700k&qid=1573722799&s=electronics&sprefix=2070+super+9700kf%2Celectronics%2C289&sr=1-1

Overkill. Slightly better than what you were about to build on the NZXT site, but $200-$300 less.

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075VSBNQZ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bought this pre-built last month and am very happy with it. Super fast and gets awesome frames at 1440p on every game I have tried.

Edit: temporarily out of stock... Bummer.

This one looks like a good deal. The CPU is a generation old but it's a solid quad core and a great 1080p gaming graphics card.

Not really.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G49FYGK/ref=psdc_13896597011_t2_B01KLSMWVA

This is a refurb that has a pretty good value.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B01KLSMWVA

This has a stronger processor and more storage. (Though storage can always be increased)

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

Thoughts on this?

My old PC had a video card issue and basically died, I tried troubleshooting it here maybe 3 years ago but gave up. Still have it and it has an upgraded PSU and this motherboard + ram and am basically considering buying this PC for league of legends, steam games, etc. vs. probably buying a new processor and video card to compete, beat performance, and beat the price. I've got a nice tower with ventilation.

Any thoughts? I haven't dealt with IT stuff like this in a few years now and would appreciate the advice.