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Reddit mentions of EHEIM Jager Aquarium Thermostat Heater 50W
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We found 21 Reddit mentions of EHEIM Jager Aquarium Thermostat Heater 50W. Here are the top ones.
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Fully submersibleThermo safey control protects against running dryWill automatically turn off when water level dips too lowTruTemp dial recalibrates the heater for precise temperature regulationMade of shock resistant and shatter proof glass for fresh or marine waterOn/Off indicator light for at-a-glance monitoring
Specs:
| Color | Black |
| Height | 9.5669291338583 Inches |
| Length | 0 Inches |
| Number of items | 1 |
| Size | 50W |
| Weight | 0.51147244784 Pounds |
| Width | 1.4173228346457 Inches |
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
HOLY CRAP.
Okay, I'm going to save you from a dead fish here, alright?
Water contains a few chemicals for treatment to make it safe for us to drink, one of them is chlorine, in that same family...there is also chloramine.
These burn the hell out of fish's gills. Its dangerous.
Get yourself a bottle of seachem prime. Its a dechlorinator. This will make it safe your fish to even exist in the water.
Second, read about fishless cycling
Since it sounds like you're getting the betta soon. You can read about fish in cycling
You can use that handy dandy bottle of seachem prime dechlorinator to also detoxify ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate for about 48 hours per dose. ONLY PRIME DOES THIS, not any other dechlorinators.
You see, filters on fishtanks contain a happy little bacteria colony that takes fish waste (Ammonia) turns it into a harmful nitrite, then turns it into relatively harmless nitrate. It keeps your fish stress free and also, if those toxin levels get to high--it kills them/ or makes them susceptible to disease. You can check the levels with this test kit
Bettas enjoy low flow in their fishtanks because they aren't the strongest of swimmers. I recommend a sponge filter. They also like their tank between 78-80 degrees. So a good heater is a MUST.
Necessities
api liquid test kit
sponge filter
airline tubing for sponge filter
air pump for sponge filter
thermometer
fluval spec v kit. Comes with filter, decent light that can grow some lowlight plants, idk what else but I hear it's pretty good, I would look around on other sites to find it cheaper
dechlorinator if you don't already have it
heater, I happen to live somewhere where the temperature of my tank floats right in the bettas range, but if this isn't the case for you then you'll need a heater
You'll need something for a lid, can't find anything on amazon but you have a few options: going to a petstore and looking for a 5 gallon lid, going to other websites to look, or making a DIY lid, which can be done with greenhouse panels, or even wood if you don't mind cutting.
Substrate is optional, but if you want it you can either get pool filter sand, which you can find at your local Home Depot or lowes (assuming you're in the US), you'll have to rinse it first but it's really cheap, $8 for 50lb which is more than enough.
I would buy the tank in person at a store or on some site like Craigslist where you can find used tanks for cheap
Also, don't forget to cycle your tank, if you don't know what that is I would do some research on it, it's possibly the most important thing in keeping any aquatic creature
Off the top of my head, will continue to edit to add stuff
Highly recommend this one. I have 3 of them and they are excellent heaters, I've use them for both 5.5g and 10g tanks.
/u/ by MiiisssterMiiissster Here's a good replacement on Amazon.
Woah, yeah cut down on the feeding haha! Maybe limit it to 3 pellets and feed him twice a day. The bloating should go down. Watch to make sure he eats everything, otherwise the leftover food will rot and dirty the tank. You can also fast your fish one day a week to prevent constipation.
I don't have a solid answer for the marimo ball, but it's probably fine with whatever sunlight/tank lighting you already have.
Keep doing water changes (at least 25-30% of the water 1-2 times a week). When you upgrade the tank you might need to buy a more powerful heater. I would suggest this adjustable one. And if you don't have one already, consider buying a thermometer when you get the new tank :)
The higher wattage essentially makes for a more powerful heater and steadier heat output (The number of watts kind of equals the amount of power going into the device; a bit like horsepower in a car). Like, a 10gal is recommended to get a 25watt heater, but a good amount of people in this subreddit suggested a 50watt so the heater wouldn't have to work too hard or too constantly to keep the water at a stable temp. I went ahead and decided on this:
https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY?th=1
heater, but there are others. I've noticed that while I'm cycling my tank my heater turns on for short periods of time and both my manual temperature gauges remain level. I haven't had a temp spike yet.
Granted, I know not everyone can spend a fortune on aquarium equipment, but this was one of the few items the subreddit urged me to splurge on. Smaller heaters are known for breaking - either boiling the fish alive, or stopping and allowing the fish to freeze. The neat this about the one above is that i can manually set it and it's that exact temp in the tank.
Had someone ask for an inventory list and thought I'd post it up here for visibility.
Coralife Biocube 14 - $199
Lighting System - $141
Filtration System - $122
Arline System - $32
Decor - $140
Flora - $114
Fauna - $46
Tools - $12
My girlfriend and I use Eheim Jager on all of our tanks. They are nicely made, adjustable, and super reliable!
Awesome, I like your style!
I still stand by this guy for an all-in-one solution.
Cut off temp regulator nub, do test batches with 5 gallons of water until the temp is right, and keep the thing wrapped in a down coat. The test batches are because the heating curve of the temperature regulator thingy is non-linear outside of its specified range, so turning one degree up isn't the same past the regulation point.
For another layer of insulation I also keep it inside a rubbermaid container. Super cheap, very well insulated, and easy to flush with CO2 through the airlock holes.
I recently started a 10g after doing a crapload of research. This is what I ended up with:
A lot of folks I talked to said the live rock and water changes would provide sufficient filtration, but I do enjoy the extra water clarity from having carbon and purigen in the filter.
People will yell at you for keeping it in a bowl and some people will even recommend they have to have 10g of water to be healthy.
A bowl is not healthy for the fish, but I've kept bettas in 2.5g tanks with no problems. The most important part is getting a filter and a heater, and not over feeding.
You want more lateral space than height, so a cubic or cylindrical tank isn't optimal. A simple 2.5g from Petco is what I use and is fine; it has the foot print of a shoe box. Bettas aren't really vertical swimmers, then are lateral swimmers; they also benefit from more surface area, which a rectangular tank gives.
I run this filter on my 2.5g and haven't had problems with it for a year. It will do better if you clean it every month.
Heaters are tricky; my best advice is to get a digital thermometer like this one and watch the temperature. My 2.5g hasn't dropped below 79 in a couple months, and I'm not running a heater. In the winter I use a heater like this one to keep the temperature steady. When you do start using a heater, you want to watch your temperature closely to make sure you aren't over heating the tank!
I use a desklamp with a Spiral CFL light bulb as lighting; but I also keep live plants. Your lighting completely depends on what you have in the tank. Keeping some plants isn't hard, but it is a balancing act that you have to get used to. You also have to do a little research about the type of plant and it's needs. If you want plants, give me a PM and I'll give you some easy plant recommendations. If you don't want plants, get a 10watt spiral CFL "Daylight" (6300K) lightbulb and put it in a desk lamp that is a couple inches above the water; or just put the tank in a window that gets some light through the day.
Food is simple; a small pinch of flake food or a little bit of freeze dried blood worms every few days is fine. Obviously live food is better, but it is also more work and more expensive.
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TL:DR
Here is my 2.5g now after I trimmed it and before I topped it off. It has ~20 Black Bar Endlers in it now instead of a Betta. If you want a tank with live plants like that it takes a bit of planning, but isn't too bad.
I'm giving you this list because cost increases with size. A great 2.5g will cost you ~$60-100 upfront, and not much in the long run. A good 10G will cost you ~$100-200 because you will need a stronger filter, larger heater, larger tank, stronger lights. A bowl is the cheap option, and your fish will lose its color, likely lose some fins due to fin rot, and I would be surprised if it lives a year. A tank with a filter and heater will solve all those issues.
Location? If it's in America, you can grab any good heater for this price.
Cobalt Neotherm $42
Aqueon Pro $25
Eheim $24
I wouldn't really recommend any heaters other than this trio besides maybe the Fluval E series, but they are too chunky for my liking.
Bettas are tropical and will not do well at 70F for very long. 76-82 is a good range to shoot for. ViaAqua has a decent and reliable 100W heater for around $13. Eheim Jager heaters are rock solid and super reliable for a little more than $20. I'd suggest getting a heater ASAP.
Fish in cycling will also be rough on your betta, but is manageable with frequent water changes. Is there anything else in the 10 gallon? What kind of filter do you have? Do you have a water test kit to monitor the nitrates and ammonia?
Edit: Can you move the tank to a warmer part of the house until you're able to get a heater?
I like the Aquaclear 20 a lot. It moves a lot of water, you can customize the media (like adding more biomedia, Purigen instead of carbon, etc), can easily adjust flow, and is VERY quiet. I've used the Whispers and they're alright, but tended to blow my biggest betta around. It is possible to baffle it with a cut water bottle (google it) but I prefer the Aquaclear hands down.
Heater: Eheim 50w (adjustable), Cobalt 50w (also adjustable, and looks sleek). A lot of people like the Hydor heaters as well.
Thermometer: the Marina one. Strips tend to not be as accurate.
It's not overprice. It's actually a very fairly price and well thought out kit. There's some unnecessary things, and the stock nuvo lights are fine (I actually have them only cause I got a sweet deal), but I would rather get the tank only and different lights. Here's my
attempt to piece that kit together with more ideal parts:
NUVO FUSION 20 BY INNOVATIVE MARINE ($200 anywhere)
This kit includes the TANK WITH THE LIGHTS, which are $400 MSRP. Just get the tank at $200. Use the $200 you would've spent on a better light and fixture:
AI PRIME HD AND MOUNT ($225 for light MSRP, $30 mount, MSRP)
This is a much better light. Stronger. Controllable (able to control all spectrums, set a sunrise sunset schedule, all from a mobile app). The Nuvo lights are just on and off, with no switch. You have to plug them into outlet timers. The AI PRIME is way better, for only a little more.
20 LBS. OF REEF SAVER ROCK ($52 bulk reef supply)
This is actually a good price per pound.
100 ML INSTANT OCEAN BIO-SPIRA (NOT NEEDED)
If you cycle your tank properly, this isn't needed.
4 OZ CLORAM-X AMMONIA REMOVER (NOT NEEDED)
You shouldn't be using a chlorinated water source to begin with, so declorinator only enables bad habits. Get RODI water from a local reef store, or make your own, or at the very worst, use vending machine water.
20 LB. SPECIAL GRADE ARAG-ALIVE! LIVE REEF SAND ($30 amazon)
You definitely want at LEAST special grade sand. Google it. Grain size matters. Too fine, and you'll get a sandstorm when the water is moved.
https://www.amazon.com/CaribSea-Arag-Alive-20-Pound-Special-Bimini/dp/B000EM2BRO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1479312554&sr=8-3&keywords=arag+alive
HW-MARINEMIX REEFER SALT MIX (DONT GET THIS SALT)
Instead, get the gold standard:
INSTANT OCEAN REEF CRYSTALS ($50 for enough to make 160 gallons, Drs Foster and Smith, also, FREE BUCKET!)
Make sure you get REEF CRYSTALS if you want corals (it's the orange box/bag), or you can get just the regular INSTANT OCEAN (purple box/bag) if you're doing fish only. This is the most trusted and widely used and available salt. I recommend you use it, so your corals always get the same consistency of nutrients, since this salt is sold everywhere and reliable.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4856
REFRACTOMETER FOR READING SALINITY WITH CALIBRATION FLUID (THESE ARE UNNECESSARY)
Accurate? Yes. Pain in the ass? Also yes. Always having to clean these and calibrate them sucks. Get a standard plastic floaty arrow hydrometer instead.
HYDROMETER ($11 amazon)
https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Ocean-tk504-SeaTest-Hydrometer/dp/B00019JOSO
TUNZE CARE MAGNET NANO - 0220.010 CLEANER MAGNET (UNNECESSARILY OVERPRICED ITEM)
Everyone knows that when it comes to cleaning magnets, Mag Floats are the go to. Sure you can pay more, but you don't always get more.
MAGFLOAT SMALL ($12)
https://www.amazon.com/Gulfstream-Tropical-AGU030SM-Mag-Float-Aquarium/dp/B003WRKVUC
MARINE S PELLET FISH FOOD - HIKARI (THERE ARE BETTER FOODS)
The best widely available pellet fish good is New Life Spectrum.
NEW LIFE SPECTRUM THERA A ($10 most online places)
They have big pellets and small pellets. Make sure you get the small pellets.
HMA-S 50W FINNEX DIGITAL SUBMERSIBLE HEATER (YOU COULD BUY YOUR OWN FOR CHEAPER)
EHEIM JAGER 50W HEATER ($23 amazon)
These are pretty well regarded and reliable heaters. Avoid getting the $15 chinese heaters, for a few bucks more this is a brand you can trust.
https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479313472&sr=8-1&keywords=50+w+heater+jager
HPS-100 FINNEX DIGITAL SUBMERSIBLE (GET ANOTHER FOR CHEAPER)
It's cool that the BRS team thought of this, but you can get your own large cheap heater for mixing water. Since it's a nuvo 20, and water changes would be around 2-5 gallons, a 150 watt or even 200 watt heater could warm up the water to match the tank pretty quickly.
EHEIM JAGER 150 WATT HEATER ($25 Amazon)
https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003M7P9YU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1479313666&sr=8-3&keywords=150w+heater
HYDOR KORALIA EVOLUTION POWERHEAD 600 ($29 Amazon)
https://www.amazon.com/Hydor-Koralia-Evolution-Aquarium-Circulation/dp/B004F461UA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479313724&sr=8-1&keywords=hydor+koralia+600
So as you can see, you can do it with better parts and remove unnecessary things, but you'd be paying $697 before tax. Personally, I would still rather part it myself, because I know I can find used AI primes with mounts for $150-$200 (check the classifieds of reef forums or you local club). Also, I don't have to buy some of this stuff because I'm already in the fish hobby and have leftover heaters, or have friends who are that can help me get started. But if you're in a hurry and want to start, or this is your first endeavor into fish keeping and have no fish keeping friends, the BRS kit is not bad at all and the convenience is nice.
PROTIP: If you do plan on buying something this big from BRS, i'll let you in on a trick. First, make an account if you don't already have one. Then, add the kit to your cart. Then, leave it there for a few days. You'll get an email reminding you that you have it in your cart, and since it's a large purchase, they'll give you a coupon (i forget the percentage) to encourage you to buy it. Then use the coupon and buy it lol. WINNING!
Wanted to do the 75W but they don't have any atm. How about a 50W? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=twister_B00TQZ7G7K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Or should I wait and go with the 75W?
I am more worried about maybe needing a fan? right now I only have the "moon lights" on and it is running at 80.2-80.4F.
Way to go with the upgrade! I'd go with the Aquaclear 20 and the EHEIM Jager heater. The heater my be a slight bit more than others but it's not going to fall apart in a year and need to be replaced. Cobalt Neo-Therm is by far my favorite heater is more expensive but so easy to set an looks much better in the tank.
Edit: Also wanted to add that you should save any filter media from your 2.5 tank to add to the new filter. This will help you get you new tank cycled a bit faster.
I've got a 10g from petsmart with a 20$ Eheim heater and a basic HOB filter that's been doing just fine. All you've gotta watch out for is too much current annoying the betta and potentially hurting flowy fins. I'd also recommend some live plants- I've both heard good things and had good experiences. They're sorta fun to aquascape too, check out some of the pictures on google people do phenomenal stuff. Be careful though- one day you'll realize you've spend 100$+ on the addiction haha. Also I like having some sand in there, it looks great and is easy to clean. Do some research on it. I had good results putting some heavier gravel underneath the "Waterfall" of the HOB filter, as sand kicking up can fry a filter motor.
To answer your questions:
Also in something like a 50G tank I'm not sure that the biological filter could even be maintained by only one betta, theres so little waste! It would be questionable without some tank mates/live plants. A small bio load means little good bacteria, which means they are more prone to crashing. The flip side of this is a large too large bioload with no room for more bacteria (Ex> 20+ fish in a 10G)
Heater link:
http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_9?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1419403587&sr=1-9&keywords=eheim+heater
Eheim heaters are definitely the best, most reliable heaters I have used (by a lot). I use this one on my 6 gallon: http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1405822008&sr=8-3&keywords=eheim+heater
I've never had any luck with preset heaters. Get something with a dial like this Jager. They're one of the best out there, especially for the price.
https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003U82YEY/ref=sr_1_3?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1467249296&sr=1-3&keywords=50+watt+aquarium+heater
Thanks! I forgot to mention how much I love serpae tetra as well and hope to include them.
Any suggestions for a hood? This Marineland LED has some questionable reviews but I'm having trouble finding suitable alternatives.
Looks like the Aquaclear HOB would be a little large for the hole in that particular hood (6.5" pre-cut hole and the filter says 7") but I'm not afraid to cut it to make it larger. I suppose if I get a submersible heater there's no other equipment that would require additional holes hole to be cut into the hood, right?
Any heater preferences?:
Fluval
Aqueon
Eheim