Reddit mentions of Mayflower: Voyage, Community, War

i remember reading the mayflower back in highschool and squanto pulling a dick move that screwed over both native americans in the area and the pilgrims, but completely forgot what or why.

No not at all. The rock is very arbitrary. The Pilgrims first landed on what is Cape Cod actually (Provincetown). They stayed there for a month mostly camped out in the ship. Upon fearing retaliation from Natives after they stole some stores of corn, they decided to leave to find a better area. They sailed west from the tip of Cape Cod and immediately came to Plymouth Harbor where they anchored, stayed, and subsequently built their settlement as they thought the area was sustainable and could be best defended. Like I said, there is no mention of a rock in any of the writings from the actual pilgrims so it really has no relevance to the events.

I recommend this book! Takes you from the Mayflower and then to King Phillips War which is another fascinating subject in itself.
https://www.amazon.com/Mayflower-Story-Courage-Community-War/dp/0143111973/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526501987&sr=8-1&keywords=mayflower+book

As for the Pilgrims of the Plymouth Colony, see:

Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick.

Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick. Really enjoying it, especially the section about King Philip's War.

• Mayflower, by Nathaniel Philbrick
  
• 1491 by Charles C Mann
  
• Omnivore's Dilemma and Botany of Desire by Michael Pollan
  
  I found these books very educational. They definitely have changed my worldview on the history of agriculture, human ecology, and economics.
  They really make you think that if Anglo-Western style capitalism or agriculture were non-existent, the world would be just fine.
  
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Mayflower-Story-Courage-Community-War/dp/0143111973/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321693822&sr=8-1
  
  http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321693987&sr=1-1
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dilemma-Natural-History-Meals/dp/0143038583/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321694010&sr=1-1
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Botany-Desire-Plants-Eye-View-World/dp/0375760393/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321694049&sr=1-1

Hi op! So this is my first time really posting here, so my apologies if I mess up.

The ships were smaller than you’d likely imagine. There is currently an active reconstruction of the Mayflower, the ship known for bringing the pilgrims to first Provincetown, Cape Cod, then on to Plymouth Massachusetts. and it is only about 80-90 feet long on deck. I’d suggest Nathanial Philbrick’s ‘Mayflower’. It gives both a very good idea of the living conditions on the journey, and an in depth look at what lead to pilgrims to the new world.