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Reddit mentions of Messermeister Oliva Elite Stealth Professional 8 Inch Extra Sharp Stainless Steel German Chef's Kitchen Knife
Sentiment score: 3
Reddit mentions: 3
We found 3 Reddit mentions of Messermeister Oliva Elite Stealth Professional 8 Inch Extra Sharp Stainless Steel German Chef's Kitchen Knife. Here are the top ones.
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MULTIPURPOSE KNIFE: Mince, slice, and dice through the toughest ingredients using these professional chef knivesUSE THE ENTIRE BLADE: Bolsterless heel simplifies all cutting, sharpening, and honing tasks, making use of the entire blade from heel to tipINDUSTRIAL STRENGTH: Industrial strength POM handle offers maximum control while you chop, slice, dice, and minceGERMAN KNIFE: German high-carbon steel alloy blades resist stains and corrosion for extra strength on razor-like edgeINCLUDES 1 CHEF KNIFE: Includes 1 8-inch chef's edge-guard knife perfect for a variety of kitchen tasks like mincing, slicing, and chopping
Specs:
Color | Brown |
Height | 1.3 Inches |
Length | 3.3 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 8-inch |
Weight | 0.4 Pounds |
Width | 16.2 Inches |
An Amazon registry (I would skip the Kohls cutlery offerings) will limit you somewhat, but there are certainly decent options available. I think your selection of two chef knives, a bread knife, and a paring knife is a good choice. For the most part I'm going to suggest fairly costly knives because, frankly, this isn't /r/culinary.
Chef knives first. Everything I have to say about 8"/210mm knives I would apply to 10"/240mm knives unless I make note.
If you want a hefty Western chef knife, I find Messermeister to be best in show. They take an edge better than other stainless German knives I've owned and they keep it longer. I find the grind and profile to be slightly more modern and workable in the Elite models opposed to the highly popular Wusthof Classic and sundry Henckels lines. The fit and finish on them is on par with Wusthof, which is to say impeccable. Messermeister makes three different handles for its Elite lines and offers the blades in a thinner Stealth version, which I like. Since Messermeister's Amazon offerings are a bit wonky I would highly suggest you look around the site for the style you like. You might even find some other kitchen gadgets you like. If you are interested in a French profile, look at K-Sabatier. A carbon K-Sab is a lot of fun. And though the stainless knives they produce aren't really as magical as their carbons, they're still fine knives.
There are many good Japanese companies and makers to consider. These knives will all be lighter and somewhat thinner than almost any Western knife. If you want something functional and somewhat reasonably priced, Suisin, Mac, and Tojiro have some good options. In the next price bracket up, a Kikuichi, a Yoshihiro, a Takayuki, or a Misono fits the bill, though Misono knives have become incredibly inflated in price. If you have a rich Uncle Ed, slip a Takeda into your list. I would definitely consider other knives at these general price ranges, but they're not available on Amazon.
A few budget suggestions:
To find out who really loves you:
Rich Uncle Ed special:
Unfortunately I didn't spot many knives on Amazon that I have confidence in and feature a Japanese handle. That's a shame because they're a treat.
Unlike my essay on chef knives, I have only one bread knife suggestion, the Mac Superior 270mm bread knife. It's the best Amazon has to offer and one of the best bread knives you can buy. Tojiro makes a clone that sells for less elsewhere if no one gives you one.
Paring knives are a little different. Edge retention and grind are much less important than geometry. I have this Henckels Pro 3" and I like it; the height of the blade is very comfortable. It has no flex, though, so don't expect to use it optimally for boning tasks. I am almost as happy with any Victorinox paring knife. I would suggest you try as many as possible in brick and mortar outlets to figure out what you like.
And finally, storage. A wall mounted magnetic strip is popular. Those made of wood have less chance of scratching or damaging a knife, so they're somewhat preferable, but as long as you pop the knife off tip first you won't damage it. I've used this strip from Winco for the past year at work with no ill effect. A knife block actually is a good storage option if you can find one to fit your collection. The biggest risk is catching the tip when the knife is inserted into the block, but that's not much of a concern if the user is careful. I use a Victorinox block that was a gift at home for most of my house knives. This block is great, I've been told. A drawer insert is another good low space option. I like my Knife Dock for the stuff I want to keep safe. It lets me slip in as many knives as I have space for the handles. This insert from Wusthof is also popular.
For western, check out Messermeister: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0073YEQ38/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1449880794&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=messermeister+elite&dpPl=1&dpID=31WkRiI44vL&ref=plSrch
The elite line is all forged and the different names are simply handle material.
Personally for sharpeners I've just ordered the DMT fine/extra fine with holder:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000H6L6FA/ref=sr_ph_1?qid=1449880933&sr=sr-1&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&keywords=dmt+fine+extra+fine
Harder and flatter than a whetstone as its diamond, and it requires a light touch. However it's easier for starters to work with, I hear.
Messermeister has a couple of lines that might fit the bill, although maybe a bit more refined than rustic, like:
Royale Elite
Oliva Elite
A more rustic western knife:
Warther 9". A tad longer than you want.
From your other comments, I can't tell if you're open to Yo handled gyutos or not, but here are a couple options. Keep in mind, these knives should only be sharpened on whetstones as the steel is much harder:
Yoshihiro VG10. I have this knife and love it.
Kanehide PS60. More of a performer. Supposed to be a great knife.
Takamura Chromax. Also considered quite the performer.
Yoshihiro Daisu Ko 9.5". Longer than you want and out of stock at this website, but more "rustic".